Ray "Killer" Lewis

[Masterofreality]

From Cleveland Comedian Mike Polk. I agree with every word.

Mike Polk ·

I wish that all of you Cleveland-area Negative Nancies would stop filling my Twitter and Facebook feeds with all these sour grapes about Ray Lewis.

Everyone is stressing his minor character flaws like the fact that he has 6 kids with 4 different women and how he murdered two people, admittedly lied to the authorities about it, threw his friends under the bus and let them go to prison for him, then paid undisclosed hush money to the families of the deceased.

Let's be like the rest of America and focus on the fact that he's still pretty good at throwing people on the ground even though he's kind of old.

[smileyy]

threw his friends under the bus and let them go to prison for him

This is a little weird. Wasn't Ray Lewis the only one to go to jail, for obstruction of justice that covered up evidence and coerced witnesses, which let his friends (co-conspirators to murder) walk at trial?

But yes, Ray Lewis has done despicable things that should never be forgotten or forgiven.

[Fireball]

It does completely shock me how revered Ray Lewis is when he most likely killed someone and paid his friend to take the blame for it.

I remember Tu talking last year about how Lewis had called him to give advice about everything he was going through and while I loved Holloway, I really did not like that he was taking advice on how to handle his life from Lewis...

[smileyy]

I remember Tu talking last year about how Lewis had called him to give advice about everything he was going through and while I loved Holloway, I really did not like that he was taking advice on how to handle his life from Lewis...

I have no doubt that Ray Lewis has completely changed his life, that he has a lot of advice on avoiding mistakes and dealing with challenges that a young black man might face.

That doesn't mean we should forget that he conspired to commit and then cover up murder.

There's no single narrative that captures Ray Lewis.

[MHettel]

I have no doubt that Ray Lewis has completely changed his life, that he has a lot of advice on avoiding mistakes and dealing with challenges that a young black man might face.

That doesn't mean we should forget that he conspired to commit and then cover up murder.

There's no single narrative that captures Ray Lewis.

He certainly didn't conspire to commit murder. Thats just wrong. He was involved (to what extent we will never know) in a fracas that led to 2 guys getting killed, but there was no conspiracy to commit murder. Coverup, yes?

[smileyy]

He was involved (to what extent we will never know) in a fracas that led to 2 guys getting killed

"Conspiracy" really just means "part of a group of people who committed a felony". So, right, with all the obstruction of justice committed, we'll never know if he was a part of the murder or not.

[vee4xu]

For years I have been saying it is a shame that Ray Lewis has been allowed to live the life he's lived, while two men are dead and buried in an act for which Lewis has at least some culpability if not legal guilt. For ESPN, the Ravens, the NFL and media generally to allow this man to have the stage he has and will continue to have as an analyst when Super Bowl Sunday is over is beyond conscience to me. Sure, Lewis has toed the line since then and become whatever one wants to call him today. But, he should never have been allowed to repent in an NFL uniform. Even if the legal system (flawed as is was in this case in my mind) allowed Lewis to be free of any prison time for his part in the murders, he should not have been rewarded with a life that made him wealthy and cast in the light in which he's currently cast. One thing that gives me solace is that in his quietest moments, Ray still has to relive that night when two men died. He a God knows what happened. Forgiveness is one thing. Justice is quite another. I can offer the former, but feel like the latter remains unserved on Ray.

[smileyy]

But, he should never have been allowed to repent in an NFL uniform.

What a great way to sum that up.

[DC Muskie]

I wish he was as intense to getting to the truth of what happened that night and the whereabouts of the white suit he wore as he is about mugging to the camera with his fake intensity that makes me want to puke every time he does it.

Oh and he dances like a fag.

[paulxu]

Somehow or other, religious services from Sunday morning TV, have wondered over to be featured on Sunday afternoon football games.

I could handle a little less of that all around.

[drudy23]

Love how the guy plays....can't stand all the other stuff.

Another fine athlete example of respecting their game, not the person.

[Kahns Krazy]

The overly dramatic closeups make me sick.

I think I've posted about some of my darker "daydreams" here from time to time. My current one is that Ray Lewis sees the light and during some live interview between now and the super bowl, pulls out a written confession and stabs it to himself right through the heart. At that point, I will believe that he is actually repentant.

[vee4xu]

The overly dramatic closeups make me sick.

I think I've posted about some of my darker "daydreams" here from time to time. My current one is that Ray Lewis sees the light and during some live interview between now and the super bowl, pulls out a written confession and stabs it to himself right through the heart. At that point, I will believe that he is actually repentant.

Hmmm. Self administered justice. What better way, eh? Maybe he can use the same knife that killed those two guys. Good chance Ray knows where it is!

[danaandvictory]

One thing that gives me solace is that in his quietest moments, Ray still has to relive that night when two men died. He a God knows what happened.

Ray avoids quiet moments by bellowing gibberish at the top of his lungs all day long, which has apparently fooled the entire sporting press into considering him a leader in the tradition of General Patton.

[MHettel]

"Conspiracy" really just means "part of a group of people who committed a felony". So, right, with all the obstruction of justice committed, we'll never know if he was a part of the murder or not.

What are you talking about? Conspiracy to commit murder means that there was planing that went into the murder itself. It basically means forethought. This situation just happened. Did he conspire to cover it up? Most certainly. But thats more obstruction of justice.

[vee4xu]

Maybe this will help about the conspiracy theory:

From the Orlando Sentinel - January 2013

Lewis, his two good friends — Reginald Oakley and Joseph Sweeting — and nine others sped away from the crime scene in a 40-foot Lincoln limousine. Lewis, Oakley and Sweeting were charged with the killings and cleared in a controversial court decision that still leaves many questions unanswered.

Why, when Lewis made an appearance at a sporting goods store the day before the Super Bowl, did his friends buy knives at the store?

Why did witnesses say the limo pulled over and someone dumped bloody clothes into a trash bin?

Why was the white suit Ray Lewis wore that night never found?

Why did the limo driver change his story mid-trial after originally testifying that Lewis told everyone to "just keep your mouth shut and don't say nothing"? Originally, the driver told police he saw Lewis actively taking part in the bloody brawl and heard Oakley and Sweeting admit to stabbing someone. But he backed off those statements when he got on the witness stand.

Why did prosecutors reduce the murder charge against Lewis to misdemeanor obstruction of justice? It was a plea deal in which Lewis agreed to testify against his two friends, Oakley and Sweeting, who were later acquitted after Lewis' testimony failed to implicate them in the murders.

"Why were people changing their stories?" Joyce Lollar asked on the way to the cemetery that day. "… The jury didn't know who or what to believe. By lying and deceiving from the beginning, Ray Lewis helped set everybody free."