Official 2013 Jason Kokrak thread

[Masterofreality]

He'll play next week regardless because even if he misses the cut, he'll still have a high enough ranking.

Better long term to keep playing and get more points.

[SM#24]

Even through 9 today (played the back first), but nothing even about his round so far (4 pars, 3 birds, 1 bogey and a double).
-1 overall, projected cut is currently E.

[GoMuskies]

He'll play next week regardless because even if he misses the cut, he'll still have a high enough ranking.

Better long term to keep playing and get more points.

According to the pgatour.com, he'd rank somewhere around 105 in FedEx points if he misses the cut this week. That would not get him into Boston.

[GoMuskies]

Six birdies through 16 holes, and he's 1 under for the round. Crazy ride for Jason today.

[PMI]

Crazy ride is right. These last couple days have been a roller coaster. He's simply not hitting fairways. It's very, very difficult to score on the Tour when you keep driving into deep stuff and bunkers.

[GoMuskies]

That's a wild 2 under. T24th at the moment and obviously making the cut. He's now all but assured of playing in Boston next week, too.

[joe titan]

His card looks like a bag of Skittles; made only 7 pars, lost 1.5 strokes to the field in putting, hits 13 greens and moved up the board. Really could have gone low and let it slip away. Still in good position to play well for the weekend.

[GoMuskies]

Nice start today. 2 birdies in the first 8 holes. Tied for 16th at 5 under. He's got a great shot at this point to move way up in the FedEx Cup standings and put himself in good position to qualify for the BMW.

[Masterofreality]

Wound up -1 and -4 for the tourney.

Now 25th.

[GoMuskies]

Double eagle on the par 4 3rd hole according to pgatour.com. He's 3 under through 7 today and 7 under overall. Tied for 6th at the moment.

[GoMuskies]

Meant eagle, not double eagle. He didn't get a hole in 1 on a par 4.

[waggy]

I think that double bogey on 17 yesterday pissed him off.

[PMI]

Yea he holed out from the fairway. Amazing to think that if he could've avoided a couple of those bogeys, he'd be right there. Of course, I expect some of the later groups to get a little further into the red, but Jason has a chance to shoot up about 40 spots or so if he finishes strong. That would be HUGE.

[GoMuskies]

In the clubhouse at -8. He'd move up to 49th in the FedEx Cup standings if the Tournament ended now.

[X-man]

Nice round by JK. I'd say he's put himself in pretty good shape to playing the next two Fedex rounds.

[waggy]

Nice round by JK. I'd say he's put himself in pretty good shape to playing the next two Fedex rounds.


I was surprised how much movement there is within a single round even this late in the year.

[bjf123]

Projected now to be 54 in the FedEx Cup. The way the final groups are throwing bogeys on their cards can only help. What are they thinking?


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[GoMuskies]

I was surprised how much movement there is within a single round even this late in the year.

These playoff events are worth 5X the FedEx Cup points of a normal event. They are designed so that even the guy ranked #125 coming in has a shot at winning the title.

[X-band '01]

PGATour.com has Jason listed at #50 with a Top 10 finish today:

Barclays Leaderboard (http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?24116-Official-2013-Jason-Kokrak-thread&p=403072#post403072)

Not only does he move on to the Deutsche Bank Championship in Boston, that gives him a little breathing room for advancing to the BMW Championship (Top 75 needed)

[BBC 08]

espn and some random website are picking Jason as a sleeper this weekend:

http://espn.go.com/golf/blog/_/name/golf/id/9602646/deutsche-bank-experts-picks
http://www.rantsports.com/golf/2013/08/28/deutsche-bank-championship-sleeper-pick-jason-kokrak-wont-remain-unknown-for-long/

[GoMuskies]

Jason's been fine today (-1 through 15), but the story is obviously Mickelson. Clearly picking up where he left off in the final round last weekend. -8 through 12 holes, so he's got a shot to have one of the better rounds of all time. 28 on the front is just sick.

[waggy]

These playoff events are worth 5X the FedEx Cup points of a normal event. They are designed so that even the guy ranked #125 coming in has a shot at winning the title.


I can see making the points greater at the playoff events, but maybe 5X's is a bit much? I don't know.

[PMI]

I can see making the points greater at the playoff events, but maybe 5X's is a bit much? I don't know.

As opposed to other sports where the playoff events determine whether a season ends or moves on?

[waggy]

Just trying to get my mind around it. Bob Estes is having a good round today so far. Projected to go from 86th to 10th in like 12 holes of golf. After almost a full season that seems a little off. Maybe it all comes out in the wash though.

[PMI]

Just trying to get my mind around it. Bob Estes is having a good round today so far. Projected to go from 86th to 10th in like 12 holes of golf. After almost a full season that seems a little off. Maybe it all comes out in the wash though.

If anything, I'd rather they keep it as is, but have fewer players qualify for the playoffs off the bat. I don't want to see them change the format enough to where ANY player who makes the playoffs has no shot at winning the FedEx Cup.

[Masterofreality]

Just trying to get my mind around it. Bob Estes is having a good round today so far. Projected to go from 86th to 10th in like 12 holes of golf. After almost a full season that seems a little off. Maybe it all comes out in the wash though.

The "projections" are based solely if the player -and everyone else in that snapshot in time- remains in that same position throughout the tournament. Obviously that never happens.

In tournament "projections" are useless..and stupid.

[GoMuskies]

I find those projections neither useless nor stupid. I refer to them a lot. They may be objectively meaningless, but they are still interesting (to me).

[Masterofreality]

I find those projections neither useless nor stupid. I refer to them a lot. They may be objectively meaningless, but they are still interesting (to me).

Why, Go?

That's like projecting that udump would win a game at Xavier after leading 2-0 in the first minute.

Meaningless.

[PMI]

I project that Jason is going to want to score real nice and low tomorrow to feel safe. Just about everyone is tearing that course up today.

[GoMuskies]

On day one it's pretty meaningless, sure. But on days 3 and 4 I like seeing where Jason is going to move in the standings if he maintains his ground. It's also interesting (to me) if he birdies or bogies a hole how much that affects his potential place in the standings.

I don't think it's any more meaningless than noting that Jason is currently tied for 33rd in the Tournament. That has probably changed five spots since I started typing.

[Masterofreality]

On day one it's pretty meaningless, sure. But on days 3 and 4 I like seeing where Jason is going to move in the standings if he maintains his ground. It's also interesting (to me) if he birdies or bogies a hole how much that affects his potential place in the standings.

I don't think it's any more meaningless than noting that Jason is currently tied for 33rd in the Tournament. That has probably changed five spots since I started typing.

My point was based on Waggy's comment above about Estes 12 hole "movement" . Of course when you get to the back nine on Sunday, there is some significance, but at that point, it's almost real.

[X-man]

JK needs to birdie the par 18th to make the cut. He is currently projected at #62, even missing the cut, which would but him into the next round regardless. Still, making the cut in Boston would seal the deal.

[X-man]

Well played, Jason, well played. You made the cut with a clutch birdie at 18.

[waggy]

Nice!

[GoMuskies]

Anyone know how Jason started this morning? The PGA made the odd decision to throw out the first 3 or 4 holes that he and the others in the first groups played this morning after the rain delay. He's starting from scratch this afternoon.

[BBC 08]

He was E through 4.

[waggy]

The BMW in two weeks is top 70, so he is good for that regardless of score today, is that correct?

After the BMW is the Tour Championship which is top 30, and that will be a tough nut to crack, so every little bit helps even a good round today..

[X-band '01]

He's projected in the mid-60s right now; he probably just needs a round under par to advance to the BMW.

[GoMuskies]

He's projected in the mid-60s right now; he probably just needs a round under par to advance to the BMW.

He's in the BMW no matter what he does tomorrow.

[Masterofreality]

He's in the BMW no matter what he does tomorrow.

Correctimundo.

[GoMuskies]

Last place beats not making the cut. 8 holes to go, and he's in a three way tie for last at -1.

[WCWIII]

Jason's coming to Chicago ... anyone planning on going to the BMW?

[joe titan]

Jason's Driver

http://golfweek.com/photos/galleries/2013/sep/05/Longest-drivers-PGA-Tour-golf-equipment/21810/

[BBC 08]

Looks like Jason needs at least a 9th place finish this week to get into the top 30. Hell of a season for him. Over $1M in earnings. Playing in 3 of the 4 FedEx Cup tournaments. Wouldn't surprise me if he finally wins a tournament in the 2013-2014 season.

[SM#24]

I think he needs a top 3 to get into the top 30; 4th alone could go either way. Don't forget, the other players ahead of him will get points too.

[BBC 08]

Per the PGA scenario page it says he needs a 9th place finish to get to 30th in points: http://www.pgatour.com/news/2013/09/05/fedexcup-scenarios-for-bmw-championship.html

[SM#24]

That shows "highest possible" finish. Right now he's 388 points behind 30th; 9th place gets you 400 points.

[GoMuskies]

Since this is a bit confusing, I think Jason needs to just go ahead and win.

[BBC 08]

Right now E through 4. What's nice about this tournament is that J is guaranteed to play this weekend.

[X-band '01]

There's no point of having a cut line with only 75 golfers in the field; it's a Top 9 finish or whatever it would take to move on to the Tour Championship.

It's an accomplishment just to make it this far already.

[GoMuskies]

Just 70 in the field, not 75. And Jason is T6 through 11 holes. Not too shabby!

[X-band '01]

-1 under par and tied for 18th. He's 3 strokes behind the Top 10 - certainly a good start.

[GoMuskies]

Jason had a pretty nice day today. He was +2 on his round when it was delayed yesterday and finished up the round -2 to end at even for the round and 1 over for the tournament. A respectable middle of the pack finish for Jason and an end to a very respectable sophomore season on Tour. Hopefully next year is the year he wins and gets to play in the Tour Championsip.

[X-band '01]

There's also the fall season to possibly win an event or a Top 5/10 finish; those events will now go towards the 2013/14 PGA Tour season.

[nuts4xu]

Did he advance to next week, or did he not make the cut out of Chicago?

[94GRAD]

He will not be playing next week.

[Masterofreality]

Well, the man ended up 70th on the Money List with $1,267,525 in earnings. Kept his Tour card and learned a lot.

J is going to be a force to be reckoned with now that he's played in over 50 PGA Tour events and has now seen most of the tracks.

Hope he gets off to a rocking start this fall for the 2014 season.

[BBC 08]

Found this article on Jay in the NYT. Interesting tidbit there at the end about the President's Cup.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/sports/golf/kokrak-off-the-pace-but-making-a-name-for-himself.html?_r=0

[X-band '01]

Could you imagine him on the International Team with the President's Cup being held at Muirfield this year? The President's Cup isn't like the World Baseball Classic where you can just pick and choose another country.

[Pete Delkus]

I could be wrong, but I thought I saw Jason on TV this morning in Dublin at the President's Cup. It was a quick pan of the empty tee box before a group was teeing off, and it was DARK!

[Lloyd Braun]

Kokrak had a hole in one today at the McGladrey classic pro-am.... On a par 4! 409 yards! Check out his twitter for a pic.

[X-band '01]

They also got it on video (2:30) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyydT8dy3Hs)

[GreatWhiteNorth]

OMG ! Par 4, 409 yards.......this is crazy. Congrats. to Jason.

[GoMuskies]

After bogeying #1, Jason is currently en fuego at Sea Island. -3 through 8 holes.

Finished 1 under. Disappointing given the hot start, but he'll have a good shot tomorrow to at least make the cut.

[GoMuskies]

Helluva round 2.Shot a 65 to get to -6 for the tournament and into 4th place. His round is the best of the day so far.

[GoMuskies]

Kokrak eagled the par 4 5th to get right up in the thick of things. But he dropped a stroke at the par 5 7th to fall back to -1 for the day and -8 overall. He's four back of the leaders with 11 holes to play. You never know!

[waggy]

It's been hard for me to remember to follow the PGA with the new season starting early like it has.

[GoMuskies]

Just birdied the 11th to get to -10. Two strokes back with 7 holes to play!

[paulxu]

He had a couple bogies on the back nine and finished 6 back.
But, he eagled the par 4 5th. Must have driven the green and I assume that's the hole he had the ace on the other day.
Keep at it Jason.

[BBC 08]

No he chipped in on 5 from the fairway.

[joe titan]

This event has been very good to Jason; last year he played fairly well under extreme pressure to solidify keeping his card, and a Top 10 this time surely boosts his confidence and starts the season oon ositive note.

[X-man]

Jason is tied for 18th in the tournament ending today in Hawaii after shooting even par in the third round. He is 5 shots off the lead, and a good round today will give him a nice payday to add to the nearly $225K he has earned to date on the 2014 Tour.

[GoMuskies]

Can't complain too much about a top 20, though I'm sure Jason feels like it was something of a missed opportunity. Almost $55k for his trip to Hawaii.

[X-man]

JK posted a 2-under round of 69 at Riviera in LA yesterday. That puts him 4 back of first round leader Dustin Johnson who came in with a 66.

[bjf123]

Not a good day today. Six bogies and a double bogey to go with only two birdies. He's +4 for the tourney and tied for 107th.


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[paulxu]

Honda Classic: -2 in second round, tied for 28th. Leader at -8.

(what the hell is wrong with Tiger? +1 after first round, 9 back)

[xudash]

Honda Classic: -2 in second round, tied for 28th. Leader at -8.

(what the hell is wrong with Tiger? +1 after first round, 9 back)

Tiger is "old" and a little broken down, not to mention a mental basketcase.

[GoMuskies]

Honda Classic: -2 in second round, tied for 28th. Leader at -8.


Finished -4 and in a tie for 14th. Nice day for Jason.

I have $5 on him to win this weekend, and it's unlikely that I'm going to cash, but he was 130-1, so why not?

[GoMuskies]

Jason shot 73 today to finish T41st. Bad finish for Jason.

Bigger news is that Tiger just walked off the course on the 13th hole. It will be interesting to see if the PGA has the balls to penalize him if there's not a legit reason for walking off. My guess is that a BS excuse will be made up by Tiger's team and immediately accepted by the Tour. It's also possible, of course, that he actually is hurt.

[Pete Delkus]

I don't see his name in Columbus this week?

Is he injured or am I blind?

[X-band '01]

Don't know; this is the 3rd tournament in a row he has been out. If he is hurt, I have a feeling he may also miss out on US Open qualifying for Monday.

Hope everything is going okay for him.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Could be resting before qualifying.

Regarding Tiger, I think he was a rabid roider. I think a lot of athletes might not necessarily use the roids for performance but mainly for returning from injury fast. I think it has all caught up to the guy.

[94GRAD]

Don't know what's wrong, but he might be out for as many as 10 weeks.

[Masterofreality]

As per XU Coach Doug Steiner, Jason had hernia surgery..not a back problem or anything chronic.

It's projected he'll be back in 3 weeks.

[X-band '01]

Good to finally hear a timetable for return; there wasn't a peep out of Jason's injury on his website or Twitter account. Hope his rehab continues to go well.

[WCWIII]

A sports hernia ... Link (http://www.vindy.com/news/2014/jun/24/kokrak-has-surgery-out-until-august/?newswatch).

[XUGRAD80]

Was told today that he expects to be playing in the PGA, August in Louisville

[Masterofreality]

@jaykokrak: First full swings since surgery. Gotta knock the rust off and get my full range of motion back #chicksdigthelongball

[BBC 08]

Was told today that he expects to be playing in the PGA, August in Louisville

Great to hear since I'm working the leader board for the tournament. Hope to be putting his name into first.

[XUGRAD80]

I'll be there for the Wednesday practice rounds

[X-band '01]

Didn't realize that Kokrak was still 68th in FedEx Cup points; I thought being out of action for a couple of months would have put him closer to the cutoff point (Top 120). Apparently his 2 Top 10 finishes earlier in the year made a huge difference.

[BBC 08]

I'll be there for the Wednesday practice rounds

Nice! Have you been to Valhalla for a tournament before? I'm a big fan of the course and Louisville does a great job packing the place.

[nuts4xu]

Great to hear since I'm working the leader board for the tournament. Hope to be putting his name into first.

I will be roaming the grounds on Friday. Looking forward to it!

I have played Vahalla a few times, and it is one of my all time favorite courses. Hope for good weather!

[nuts4xu]

Nice! Have you been to Valhalla for a tournament before? I'm a big fan of the course and Louisville does a great job packing the place.

I played the course the week after the Ryder Cup, and I agree Louisville does a great job packing the place. The parking for this year's event is all over, with busses and trams shuttling people from lots as far as Papa John Stadium. I have never been there for a tournament, but I know many that have all feedback has been positive.

[GoMuskies]

I've played Valhalla once. I birdied #1 and #18 (the relevant golf balls are sitting right next to me) and shot about 105. So I hit a bit of a rough patch during my round.

[nuts4xu]

I've played Valhalla once. I birdied #1 and #18 (the relevant golf balls are sitting right next to me) and shot about 105. So I hit a bit of a rough patch during my round.

Sounds like the typical round for most of us hackers, except the birdie part. For me it is usually a couple pars that make up the bread of my crappy golf game sandwich. I haven't broken 100 at Valhalla yet but I would love to take another shot some time. That 18th hole is one of my favorites (that doesn't have an ocean behind it).
http://assets.bizjournals.com/louisville/print-edition/Valhalla%20201209173765.jpg?v=1

[BBC 08]

I will be roaming the grounds on Friday. Looking forward to it!

I have played Vahalla a few times, and it is one of my all time favorite courses. Hope for good weather!

You're in for a real treat. I think I'm up on 12 or 13 leaderboard at some point that day and will be wandering the rest of it.

[BBC 08]

I played the course the week after the Ryder Cup, and I agree Louisville does a great job packing the place. The parking for this year's event is all over, with busses and trams shuttling people from lots as far as Papa John Stadium. I have never been there for a tournament, but I know many that have all feedback has been positive.

Yeah it is all over the place but they do a good job of getting people in quickly. Best place to stand I think is 12 tee box. Get to see the player's approach shot on 10 and their tee shot on 12. I pretty much just stay on the back 9 whenever I'm out there. No real need to get out to the front.

[XUGRAD80]

I've never been there, and have never even been to a golf tourney before. I've seen it on TV, it looks beautiful. Going to the practice round to try and avoid some of the crowds. I'll watch the rest on TV.

[Xville]

I've never been there, and have never even been to a golf tourney before. I've seen it on TV, it looks beautiful. Going to the practice round to try and avoid some of the crowds. I'll watch the rest on TV.

At least for me, seeing a golf tournament live is something that I can scratch off my bucket list because I have done it once, and don't really feel the need to ever do again unless it is maybe the Masters. To see it once live is pretty awesome though. Just to see these guys hit the ball so long and so straight is pretty amazing...and then have the precision to consistently hit GIR and within 10-15 feet on what seems like every time. However, for me, seeing it once (and in a major) is good enough for me. This is one sport I actually enjoy watching on tv more than I do live...just because you get to see multiple groups, you know the standings at all times, and the walk to get food/beer is a lot shorter at home.

[BBC 08]

At least for me, seeing a golf tournament live is something that I can scratch off my bucket list because I have done it once, and don't really feel the need to ever do again unless it is maybe the Masters. To see it once live is pretty awesome though. Just to see these guys hit the ball so long and so straight is pretty amazing...and then have the precision to consistently hit GIR and within 10-15 feet on what seems like every time. However, for me, seeing it once (and in a major) is good enough for me. This is one sport I actually enjoy watching on tv more than I do live...just because you get to see multiple groups, you know the standings at all times, and the walk to get food/beer is a lot shorter at home.

Yeah, I somehow lucked out and won 2 final round tickets for the Masters from the Masters lottery. Cannot wait to finally go in April. I just need a US Open and an Open Championship to have a lifetime attendance of the Grand Slam.

[paulxu]

I've played Valhalla once. I birdied #1 and #18 (the relevant golf balls are sitting right next to me) and shot about 105. So I hit a bit of a rough patch during my round.

Well, clearly you were not using your "exclusive and special clubs" like you should have been.

[Masterofreality]

The latest:

"Kokrak 'about 75 percent,' but will play PGA
Jason Kokrak fully intends to return to competition at next week's PGA Championship, Rotoworld has learned in an email from Kevin Canning of The Legacy Agency, Kokrak's management firm.
"Jason is playing next week," Canning wrote on Tuesday. "First week back. He hasn't walked 18 holes yet, but he has played a full round. He’s probably about 75 percent but he wasn't going to miss a major so we will see how it goes." Kokrak has been out of action since having surgery for a sport hernia. He last pegged it at THE PLAYERS where he missed the cut. Thanks to two top 10s and another six top 20s, he's still 73rd in the FedExCup standings. While he's perhaps not a wise fantasy investment at Valhalla, it's good news that he's far enough along in his recovery to give it a go."

[GoMuskies]

Given the long layoff, I think it would be a minor miracle if Jason was able to make the cut this weekend, but I'll be cheering like hell for him.

[GoMuskies]

Triple at the second for Jason. The good news is that he's tied with John Daly! That's also the bad news.

[GoMuskies]

Projected cut is E, so Jason just needs to shoot 64 today. No big deal.

[X-Fan]

Hilarious stuff last night from Jimmy Fallon. I give you PGA Superlatives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdZlDOts2BI

Poor Jason Kokrak.

LOL!

[GoMuskies]

Jason is playing this week in the first round of the playoffs, by the way. So far, it looks like he may have his game back after the long layoff. He shot a one under 70 today in Paramus, NJ. One birdie and 17 pars.

[X-band '01]

It wouldn't be the first time that he's had success at the Barclays; he parlayed a Top-10 finish last year into the 3rd round of the playoffs (BMW Championship). At the moment, he's tied for 19th behind the leader (-5).

[GoMuskies]

Hopefully Jason can keep it together today and at least make the cut. He's -2 overall (-1 for the day) through 8 holes. The cut line is at +1 right now.

[X-band '01]

Bogey on 11 and birdies on 12 and 17 (he started on the 10th hole).

The cut line has briefly dropped to +2, although I think Jason should make the cut as long as he doesn't have any disastrous holes to finish his round.

[X-band '01]

And Jason finishes his round even par and is still -1 overall. That will move him into weekend play.

[GoMuskies]

It's great news that he made the cut. Hopefully a couple of nice rounds this weekend put him in good position to make the third round of the playoffs (he's basically sealed a trip to Boston).

Smooth 65 for Rory today. He doesn't suck.

[GoMuskies]

Jason could never really get anything going this weekend. Finished +1 and will likely end up around 60th. He''ll need a very strong showing in Boston next weekend to jump into the top 70 in FedEx Cup points to advance to the third playoff weekend.

[PMI]

Great start for Jason at the OHL Classic, sitting at -5 and one stroke back after Round 1.

[GoMuskies]

It's rough out there in Playa del Carmen. Jason is 2 under through 6 holes and has lost 7 spots on the leaderboard. Luckily just about everyone who is ahead of him has already finished. He's 5 shots behind the leader (-12).

Looks like the PGA is sort of half-assing it this weekend, too. They apparently didn't take the necessary shot tracker technology on the road with them to Mexico.

[GoMuskies]

T16 - $85k this weekend.