Butch Jones to Colorado?

[coasterville95]

WCPO reporting that Colorado has presented Butch Jones a $13.5M offer to come to Colorado. No word on if Butch will accept.

[Muskie]

He was in West Lafayette yesterday to tour and meet with Purdue officials.

[DC Muskie]

I was talking to some of my Purdue friends last night and they are very excited over the possibility of Jones.

As excited as Purdue football can get hiring UC's coach.

[coasterville95]

I'd heard Purdue was also in play for Butch Jones. But usually when it starts hitting news text alerts, there is more substance to it.

[GoMuskies]

I thought Jones had already taken the Purdue job. Is that not right?

[DC Muskie]

How many years is Colorado offering?

[BandAid]

Money and duration aside. I would think Purdue is the more desirable gig.

At least it would be for me.

But I'm not a D1 football coach, so what the hell do I know?

[nuts4xu]

Who is the current coach for Central Michigan? I suppose whoever their coach is, he is on his way to Cincinnati to tour the facillities and get an offer from UC.

It has worked the past couple of hires for the Bearcats, why not go back to that same well.

[bleedXblue]

UC job is even less desireable now

No BCS affiliation anymore

Poor facilities with no plan for improvement b/c they have no $$

UC is in a really difficult spot

[coasterville95]

WCPO deal says 5 years. $13.5M and a promise to upgrade facilities.

[bleedXblue]

you cant win there....what a stupid move other than he gets to line his pockets

At least Kelly and Dantonio went somewhere where you can win

[GoMuskies]

Why can't you win there? One of my co-workers played there and lost something like 6 games in 4 years. The right guy can win there.

[bleedXblue]

Why can't you win there? One of my co-workers played there and lost something like 6 games in 4 years. The right guy can win there.

Really ?

They havent wont here in a long, long time.

Its in the middle of nowhere.

Best players have lots of other "better" optons.

The list could go on and on.

In the last 7 years, they are 32 W and 65 L.

[GoMuskies]

Boulder is the middle of nowhere?!? Auburn is in the middle of nowhere.

They've had a bad stretch, sure, but they won like crazy in the '90s and had some pretty good teams in the early '00s as well. There's no reason they can't do it again with the right coach.

[outsideobserver11]

UC is supposedly ready to offer a new contract with a "substantial" pay increase for him and his staff, as well as promises about stadium upgrades and a very low buyout if they are not into a new conference by 2015 (makes me think they must know something).

As a UC guy, I have a hard time seeing him going anywhere but Purdue if he does leave. Colorado makes no sense outside of the money. He has no recruiting ties or other connections out there to work with. I think his best move is to stay one more year. He is almost assured a BCS bowl game next year in a watered down Big East, and he will be even more coveted after that type of season than he is this year.

Last year he turned down approaches from Illinois, North Carolina, and UCLA; all of which are better opportunities than Purdue and Colorado. I think UC's conference uncertainty is playing a huge role this year, along with maybe leveraging a bit for UC's contract purposes.

[DC Muskie]

How does UC's team look for next year? That will play a big role as well.

[nuts4xu]

How many years is Colorado offering?

Not sure about years, but don't discount the fact that pot is legal now in Colorado. Butch could be a fan of ganga, and wants to grow his own without fear of the conservative law dogs around here.

[bleedXblue]

Boulder is the middle of nowhere?!? Auburn is in the middle of nowhere.

They've had a bad stretch, sure, but they won like crazy in the '90s and had some pretty good teams in the early '00s as well. There's no reason they can't do it again with the right coach.

Ok well see.

The Odds are VERY STEEP.

Colorado is simply not one of the premier programs in the country.

Major rebuilding job.

Butch Jones took over a program that was in great shape after Kelly left.

[GoMuskies]

It is certainly a fixer-upper. They were down something like 49-0 to Fresno midway through the second quarter this year.

[RealDeal]

Maybe he's sick of being compared to Kelly, do UC fans do that or is it just some Xavier fans that can't let go?

[DC Muskie]

Not sure about years, but don't discount the fact that pot is legal now in Colorado. Butch could be a fan of ganga, and wants to grow his own without fear of the conservative law dogs around here.

His name is Butch. Gotta think he likes wacky tobacky. Colorado could give a very good incentive package.

[Masterofreality]

One word...

Steppingstone.

[chico]

I wonder what jobs will open up next year as compared to this year. Purdue and/or Colorado may be his best shots. You can win at both schools. It may not be as easy to win there as other schools, but those jobs are scarce and you wonder if Jones would be on the short list at those schools.

[Snipe]

Q) What can you do in Bolder with 13.5 million?

A) A lot.

I would rather live in Bolder, Colorado than West Lafayette, Indiana.

Median Income Bolder $48,000, West Lafayette $22,000
Median Home value: Bolder $478,000, West Lafayette $171,000

1093

White alone - 80,873 (83.0%)
Hispanic - 8,507 (8.7%)
Asian alone - 4,558 (4.7%)
Two or more races - 2,064 (2.1%)
Black alone - 828 (0.9%)
American Indian alone - 297 (0.3%)
Other race alone - 198 (0.2%)
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone - 60 (0.06%)


Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/Boulder-Colorado.html#ixzz2E2QPKzpo

Ancestries: German (20.9%), English (15.0%), Irish (13.9%), Italian (5.6%), Scottish (4.2%), Polish (3.6%).


1094

White alone - 22,003 (74.3%)
Asian alone - 5,116 (17.3%)
Hispanic - 1,051 (3.6%)
Black alone - 797 (2.7%)
Two or more races - 538 (1.8%)
Other race alone - 51 (0.2%)
American Indian alone - 37 (0.1%)
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone - 3 (0.01%)


Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/West-Lafayette-Indiana.html#ixzz2E2RAR6Ew

Ancestries: German (26.8%), Irish (12.3%), English (11.5%), Polish (5.9%), United States (4.0%), Italian (4.0%).




Lots of Asians in West Fafayette, Indiana. Strikingly almost 1 in 5 people is Asian. I wonder where that was 10 or 20 years ago, practically negligible. I wonder where it will be 10 or 20 years from now.

Crime is much higher in Bolder though. 1 person murdered in West Lafayette since 2000, compared to 16 in Bolder (which is much bigger). And rapes per 100,000 population is seems to average around 25 per 100,000 in West Laf to 35 per 100,000 in Bolder. That is probably influenced by the Asian population in West Laf, because statistically Asians don't commit many crimes.

Bolder has a more homogenous population, and they are relatively wealthy. They are located in the scenic Rocky Mountains. I could take 13.5 million a year and go hang out with those rich people. Then again I always had a thing for those little Asian women, and in West Laf I could get me a little sumptin sumptin on the side. Get me some of that Hong Kong chicken, me love you long time.

I would take the 13.5 mil, go to Bolder and never look back. My children would ski, have fancy elite private schools, and vacation homes. Life wouldn't be so bad. Might even top living in the West End.

[Masterofreality]

I would take the 13.5 mil, go to Bolder and never look back. My children would ski, have fancy elite private schools, and vacation homes. Life wouldn't be so bad. Might even top living in the West End.

Barely top the West End....barely.

[X-band '01]

Boulder is the middle of nowhere?!? Auburn is in the middle of nowhere.

They've had a bad stretch, sure, but they won like crazy in the '90s and had some pretty good teams in the early '00s as well. There's no reason they can't do it again with the right coach.

Colorado was real clutch back in the early 90s, especially on fifth down conversions.

[chico]

Q) What can you do in Bolder with 13.5 million?

A) A lot.

I would rather live in Bolder, Colorado than West Lafayette, Indiana.

Median Income Bolder $48,000, West Lafayette $22,000
Median Home value: Bolder $478,000, West Lafayette $171,000

1093

White alone - 80,873 (83.0%)
Hispanic - 8,507 (8.7%)
Asian alone - 4,558 (4.7%)
Two or more races - 2,064 (2.1%)
Black alone - 828 (0.9%)
American Indian alone - 297 (0.3%)
Other race alone - 198 (0.2%)
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone - 60 (0.06%)


Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/Boulder-Colorado.html#ixzz2E2QPKzpo

Ancestries: German (20.9%), English (15.0%), Irish (13.9%), Italian (5.6%), Scottish (4.2%), Polish (3.6%).


1094

White alone - 22,003 (74.3%)
Asian alone - 5,116 (17.3%)
Hispanic - 1,051 (3.6%)
Black alone - 797 (2.7%)
Two or more races - 538 (1.8%)
Other race alone - 51 (0.2%)
American Indian alone - 37 (0.1%)
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone - 3 (0.01%)


Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/West-Lafayette-Indiana.html#ixzz2E2RAR6Ew

Ancestries: German (26.8%), Irish (12.3%), English (11.5%), Polish (5.9%), United States (4.0%), Italian (4.0%).




Lots of Asians in West Fafayette, Indiana. Strikingly almost 1 in 5 people is Asian. I wonder where that was 10 or 20 years ago, practically negligible. I wonder where it will be 10 or 20 years from now.

Crime is much higher in Bolder though. 1 person murdered in West Lafayette since 2000, compared to 16 in Bolder (which is much bigger). And rapes per 100,000 population is seems to average around 25 per 100,000 in West Laf to 35 per 100,000 in Bolder. That is probably influenced by the Asian population in West Laf, because statistically Asians don't commit many crimes.

Bolder has a more homogenous population, and they are relatively wealthy. They are located in the scenic Rocky Mountains. I could take 13.5 million a year and go hang out with those rich people. Then again I always had a thing for those little Asian women, and in West Laf I could get me a little sumptin sumptin on the side. Get me some of that Hong Kong chicken, me love you long time.

I would take the 13.5 mil, go to Bolder and never look back. My children would ski, have fancy elite private schools, and vacation homes. Life wouldn't be so bad. Might even top living in the West End.

Yeah, but Snipe Boulder has its share of aliens. They may be working at a local Friday's.

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[coasterville95]

Apparently Butch is meeting with Ono today so that UC can present their counter offer.

I really think UC has to step up in a big way if they value stability and momentum in their football player. I mean imagine trying to recruit a good coach into a Big East school in the midst of all the realignment turmoil and degraded perception of Big East football. Of course finding the money to do so in a cash strapped athletics department may be an issue.

Apparently he was only up at Purdue for a few hours. He spent most of Monday and overnight at Colorado. He is expected to attend a press conference today at UC to discuss the Belk Bowl.

[bleedXblue]

Apparently Butch is meeting with Ono today so that UC can present their counter offer.

I really think UC has to step up in a big way if they value stability and momentum in their football player. I mean imagine trying to recruit a good coach into a Big East school in the midst of all the realignment turmoil and degraded perception of Big East football. Of course finding the money to do so in a cash strapped athletics department may be an issue.

Apparently he was only up at Purdue for a few hours. He spent most of Monday and overnight at Colorado. He is expected to attend a press conference today at UC to discuss the Belk Bowl.

He'd be crazy not to take either for the $$$$$

I dont think Jones will turn either into a consistent 9-10 game winner every year, but who cares, he'll be set for life.

UC has no plan other than a smoke and mirror show to keep him here. They dont have the cash to invest in the football program to get the facilities on par with Top 25 programs,

[coasterville95]

That's why I said UC needs to step up and keep Butch, not the other way around.

Butch has to know he holds the power here. If the image of the UC job, given the conference realignment turmoil, is as bad as we think it is, Butch would have to know he could get a nice price out of UC to avoid having to face that dark unknown. He also is a great coach, and while thiose programs are fixer-uppers if he performs as well there as he has for UC, or at least brings a spark of life to their program, he can ride out aq 5 year deal, collect at least $13.5M and retire at age 50. (I think I read he is 44...) If he wants to keep on coaching, more power to him, either way, he's gold. Certainkly better off than had he not come to UC.

But, and I don't know what the prospectus is on UC Football 2013 as it stands today, so I don't know if it may be in Butch's favor to hang tight witht he Bearcats in the hopes of parlaying that into an even more enticing offer next year. While both of these offers get him out of the Big East, neither really take him to a name program. (Or even a program that would have been considered a step up before realignment)

[Kahns Krazy]

Q) What can you do in Bolder with 13.5 million?

A) A lot.

I would rather live in Bolder, Colorado than West Lafayette, Indiana.
.....

West Layfayette wouldn't exist if Purdue wasn't there. It's a true university town. Foreign students are likely to permanently reside there, skewing the Asian census.

Boulder is a ski town that also has a university in it.

[blueblob06]

Ha. UC just announced that Butch Jones will only be answering questions regarding the Belk Bowl vs Duke in today's press conference. That's gonna be awkward.

[coasterville95]

Maybe they learned from when we gave Sean Miller a media room to announce his departure.

[GoMuskies]

Ha. UC just announced that Butch Jones will only be answering questions regarding the Belk Bowl vs Duke in today's press conference. That's gonna be awkward.

Charlie Strong had a bizarre press conference in Louisville yesterday involving coaching search rumors. I'm sure they don't want a similar circus.

[xudash]

Ha. UC just announced that Butch Jones will only be answering questions regarding the Belk Bowl vs Duke in today's press conference. That's gonna be awkward.

Anyone tracking radar for flights out of or into Lunken?

Have Calipari and Matta called him to advise him to move o..........oh, wait...............different story.

[xsteve1]

I get the impression he's staying in Cincy.

[xudash]

I get the impression he's staying in Cincy.

Big fish in a small, crappy pond. I get it.

[bigdiggins]

Wisconsin opened up today. Seems like a good fit for Butch.

[drudy23]

Funny how universities can offer "promises" of facility upgrades.

Yeah right...and I "promise" to tell recruits I'll be around for their 4 years.

[GoMuskies]

Wisky's coach skipping off to Arky means I can't believe any coaching search rumors anymore. NO ONE ever even mentioned his name for the job. The Arky AD must have had a great time laughing at all the completely inaccurate reports.

[Juice]

Wisky's coach skipping off to Arky means I can't believe any coaching search rumors anymore. NO ONE ever even mentioned his name for the job. The Arky AD must have had a great time laughing at all the completely inaccurate reports.

I think it's because about 25 guys turned down Arkansas.

[coasterville95]

Wisconsin is now in play? If they have any interest, then we have a whole new ball game.

Can't imagine Butch choosing UC over a big Ten powerhouse program - it its been offered to him. Might have been the reason he is stalling.

[coasterville95]

Wisconsin is now in play? If they have any interest, then we have a whole new ball game.

Can't imagine Butch choosing UC over a big Ten powerhouse program - it its been offered to him. Might have been the reason he is stalling.

[wkrq59]

Let's see, Tennessee still in play? Arkansas? Naah! Auburn??Nah! Wisconsin! Colorado. Purdue (turned down). Patience. Who knows what other shocker awaits?
:perfect10::drinks::swordfight:

[coasterville95]

Apparently the patience of the sports reporters at WCPO is wearing thin. They just tweeted that the PR department at UC gets a flunking grade for how they are handling this.

Like they have anything to announce at this time. Until Butch either turns in a resignation or signs a new contract with UC, nothing has happened. He is still, as he said, their football coach.

But that tweet reminded me of what some have said about our PR department at various times over the past year.

[DC Muskie]

Apparently the patience of the sports reporters at WCPO is wearing thin. They just tweeted that the PR department at UC gets a flunking grade for how they are handling this.

I would ask those guys....

What exactly is the PR team supposed to do?

[coasterville95]

That tweet had a link to an article on their site, I forgot to look at which sports writer wrote it.

The article itself opines that they should never have had Butch at that press conference for the Belk Bowl. Then to email the reports in advance and admonish them twice before the meeting to NOT ask any questions about Coach's status. That went about as well as you might exepct. They were told to keep their questions pertinent to the Belk Bowl, Q1 "Will YOU be coaching UC in the Belk Bowl?" Particularly, as they noted there were 25 reporters in attendance, most of whom didn't give a rat's behind about the Belk Bowl.

But again, its a no win situation - you don't have Butch there, people will assume he is gone, you have an asistant coach stand in for him, people will think they are looking at the interim coach. And not unique to UC, as has also been noted, the prime window for hiring a football coach is the period between the last regular game and the bowl games.

It still all boils down to them wanting an answer to THE question, and at the current time, there is none.

[bleedXblue]

I think it's because about 25 guys turned down Arkansas.


B/c its a lot like Colorado and Purdue.

They may pay you a lot, but its a very tall mountain to climb in order to get those programs to 9-10 win season consistently.

Wisconsin and TN jobs right now are the best of the bunch.

With Jones ties to the upper midwest, wouldnt be surprised at all to see WISC reach out to him

[coasterville95]

Exactly, Butch came to UC from the Central Michigan School of UC Football Coaches, right?

I'd have to think that if Wisconsin has any interest, Butch will be up there like he was shot out of a cannon.

[gladdenguy]

I doubt Wisconsin wants any part of Butch Jones. If they do offer him.....I would be very surprised and they have probably dipped far down their list of favorites.

[Kahns Krazy]

I think the college football recruiting season is broken, which leads to the stupid coaching carousel between the season and the bowls.

[X-band '01]

I would ask those guys....

What exactly is the PR team supposed to do?

You're forgetting the masterful job UC's PR department did last year to make them look like saints.

[coasterville95]

Denver post saying Butch Jones has taken the Colorado job. Another station says its only a verbal agreement at this point.

Apparently he is in Charlotte today promoting the Belk Bowl, and is scheduled to return to Cincinnati tonight. Media planning an ambush to get answers.

[coasterville95]

This has now reached three ring circus level.

Now Butch, Ono and CU are on a unified front saying the story is false.

Denver media trying to CTA by saying they are both denying it until He can get his affairs in order at UC.

This makes the one night fretting over Miller seem like nothing. This will make at least the fourth night UC fans have tossed and turned wondering if they still have a coach.

If UC weren't hamstrung by conference realignment it might be time to say "Sign this extension or the resignation, your choice". Make a move or get off the pot. We need time to recruit a coach if need be.

[bjf123]

I think the college football recruiting season is broken, which leads to the stupid coaching carousel between the season and the bowls.

Agreed. I have no idea how to do it, but college football needs to be like the NFL in this regard. As long as the team is still playing, i.e. in a bowl game, the coaches should be off limits.


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[ArizonaXUGrad]

He is out at CU. Maybe he just put his name in the mix for Wisconsin which is a vastly superior gig.

[ammtd34]

The problem is the late December dead period. If a coach stays with his current team through their bowl game, he starts from behind at the new school recruiting wise.

[Juice]

A radio show host from Colorado was on with Mo Egger and said he is 100% positive that Butch took the job with CU but got pissed when the story leaked. I understand being mad about that before you could talk to your team, but I don't get how that would be what broke off the deal. The radio guy from Colorado went on to say that if Butch Jones says that he never had an agreement with CU then he is flat out lying to the fan base.

[paulxu]

Who is Butch Jones and why should I care?
Is he involved with Xavier basketball or big time college FB?

[boozehound]

Who is Butch Jones and why should I care?
Is he involved with Xavier basketball or big time college FB?

It's an off topic message board.

[CinciX12]

You can flip the letters from UC to CU, and its no different than calling a girl a whore or a slut. Same results are going to occur.

Enjoy your continuing mediocrity.

[coasterville95]

ESPN bottom line ticket saying something about Tennessee now. And so it starts over again.

Paul - the higher UC has to pay their football coaching staff, the less they have to spend on the basketball program.

[coasterville95]

Latest news - Butch Jones calls mandatory team meeting tomorrow at 7:30am.

Of course no word on the subject matter. Could just be going over next years schedule. :).

[ammtd34]

He's gone. No word yet on destination.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20121207/SPT0101/312070045?nclick_check=1

[xavierj]

Tennessee.

[DC Muskie]

Good move for Butch and Tennessee.

[drudy23]

There's a reason he didn't give CU an answer for 4 days...he was stalling to finalize negotiations at UT.

Not that I care, but you don't go from making a 3-4 day decision where you are "torn", to accepting another offer overnight.

Not sure I understand the fascination with Butch anyway. He was OK, but it's not like losing a Kelly, a Matta, or a Miller.

[outsideobserver11]

There's a reason he didn't give CU an answer for 4 days...he was stalling to finalize negotiations at UT.

Not that I care, but you don't go from making a 3-4 day decision where you are "torn", to accepting another offer overnight.

Not sure I understand the fascination with Butch anyway. He was OK, but it's not like losing a Kelly, a Matta, or a Miller.

He definitely wasn't any of them and was an average coach realistically. The program just needs some sort of stability.

[coasterville95]

Depends on what the differential was between the UC/CU/TN/PU offers/

I think that behavior makes it all the more clear how much he wanted out of UC. We used CU both as leverage, and kept them in his back pocket in case the TN gig didn't pan out. He knew there were a lot better gigs to land in than Colorado.

I laughed out loud at the article in the Enquirer yesterday where they tried to calm people dow by saying "Look, he would owe UC $1.4m if he leaves before Jan 1" - Yeah, and to a true major league player like TN, they would just say "to whom do we write the check?"

I almost feel kind of bad for UC right now, imagine trying to recruit a coach in the middle of all this conference realignment turmoil. And Whit Babcock is talking about how nationally attractive the UC opening is going to be... D Jansen had an article suggesting that a lot of minor things at UC were iritating Jones, like lack of support, maybe even animosity with the admissions office.

[drudy23]

Apparently, UT fans, via Twitter, are NOT happy with this hire at all.

A whole bunch tweeting Jones personally to tell him not to come. Ouch.

[XUOWNSUC]

Not sure I understand the fascination with Butch anyway. He was OK, but it's not like losing a Kelly, a Matta, or a Miller.

Totally agree. What has Butch done? Win in the big east? Wow. Kelly was way better.

So when does uc make the call to Dan Enos? uc sucks! Stepping stone!

[Snipe]

I think that Butch is a good coach. It isn't easy to win at UC. I think Brian Kelly is a genius. That guy can coach, and he turned the program around. On offense, he got people obscenely wide open. I could have made some of those passes. It was like men against boys, and at UC, Brian Kelly was the chess master. They even started talking about the pro prospects of UC quarterbacks. That never panned out, because the quarterbacks weren't all that special. The offensive game plan was. Brian Kelly knew how to get people open, and not just open, but wide freakin open. Chess Master!

I hope he wins it all, and it won't surprise me if he does. Brian Kelly is a football coach and he knows what the hell he is doing.

I liked Butch. He is no Brian Kelly.

[Juice]

UC has hired Tommy Tubberville.

My guess is that he took this job because he knew he would be canned in a year.

[GuyFawkes38]

UC has hired Tommy Tubberville.

My guess is that he took this job because he knew he would be canned in a year.

Definitely.

This is one of those hires that sounds a lot better than it is in practice. IMHO, much better idea to go after a young, hungry coach on the upswing of his career than an older coach with a lot of cash in tha bank.

[xsteve1]

Definitely.

This is one of those hires that sounds a lot better than it is in practice. IMHO, much better idea to go after a young, hungry coach on the upswing of his career than an older coach with a lot of cash in tha bank.

Agree. I think Babcock is more worried about keeping a coach around for more than 3 years. This reminds me of the OU hiring of Frank Solich.

[Masterofreality]

UC has hired Tommy Tubberville.

My guess is that he took this job because he knew he would be canned in a year.

This...maybe he'd be canned this year after his run-in with a grad assistant and a mediocre 7-5 season. He was 20-17 at TTech. That won't play long term in Lubbock.

This actually reminds me of when XU hired Tay Baker. That didn't work out well.

[BlueGuy]

UC has hired Tommy Tubberville.

My guess is that he took this job because he knew he would be canned in a year.

This was my first reaction as well. I didn't check any message boards, but I'd guess a lot of TT fans are happy with this move. Under normal circumstances, no way a move to any team in the messed up Big East is better than TT.

[boozehound]

Apparently, UT fans, via Twitter, are NOT happy with this hire at all.

A whole bunch tweeting Jones personally to tell him not to come. Ouch.

I know a guy who is a Tennessee fan that knows a couple of guys in the athletic department at UT. Their reaction upon first meeting Butch Jones: "Butch Jones is a dick".

[bleedXblue]

This hire has "pulled the trigger way too fast" all over it. Tuberville has some history of winning and brings some credibility to the UC job.

He's also left some jobs......didnt he leave one in the middle of the season ?

Apparently he thought his days were numbered at TT....so he bolts for a new life at UC.

UC had success with the young/up and comers.........I thought Combs would get a good look b/c he knows the area and has recruiting contacts.

Tuberville brings no rectuiting connections unless he hires some assistants from the area,

I think this is a short sighted hire by UC and in 3-4 years they will ahve wished they hired someone else.

[Juice]

This hire has "pulled the trigger way too fast" all over it. Tuberville has some history of winning and brings some credibility to the UC job.

He's also left some jobs......didnt he leave one in the middle of the season ?

Apparently he thought his days were numbered at TT....so he bolts for a new life at UC.

UC had success with the young/up and comers.........I thought Combs would get a good look b/c he knows the area and has recruiting contacts.

Tuberville brings no rectuiting connections unless he hires some assistants from the area,

I think this is a short sighted hire by UC and in 3-4 years they will ahve wished they hired someone else.

I agree with this. His record at Texas Tech is 20-17 and he was 9-17 in the Big 12. I think kids would prefer to play for a young, exciting, up and coming coach rather than a 58 year old dude who last had success in the middle 2000s. I think he will keep UC competitive in a crappy Big East but I don't think this is the slam dunk that all the UC fans think it is.

[RealDeal]

Whit Babcock is arranging deck chairs on the titanic.

[nkymuskie]

Looking on twitter you would think UC actually a relevant coach. Say an Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, Les Miles type. You guys hired Tommy Freakin' Tuberville. He has name recognition and had some good teams in the mid 2000's, especially 2004, but come on. He hasn't been a great coach over the past 5 years or so. Even if he does have success at UC he will bolt to any SEC job even faster than Butch and Kelly did.

[coasterville95]

The good news for UC is that all their fans are going nuts over this. They are literally messing themselves ovewr how this is a slam dunk, grand slam hire. Whether this turns out to be true remains to be seen, but as long as the fans are happy. Time for them to step up, if they can't rally support now, they never will.

Whit is also saying he is going to announce a Nippert upgrade in the next few days, so where did a cash strapped athletics department suddenly get that kind of money.

One thing is does say, Whit suspected (or at least hoped) Butch was leaving. He may have been all sad in Friday's press conference, but if you don't think he had Tuberville waiting in the wings, I mean to go from "We need to launch a national search" to "We have our guy" that fast.

Can't fault them for making the most of their situation.

[wkrq59]

The circus continues. Boy do they now know how their brothers across town (Really??) feel We've seen and felt the pains far more than they.

:jawdrop::shocked::looney::stink:

[GoMuskies]

Good for them. Nice hire.

[Masterofreality]

Whit is also saying he is going to announce a Nippert upgrade in the next few days, so where did a cash strapped athletics department suddenly get that kind of money.

Can't fault them for making the most of their situation.

Their situation, and a "Nip" upgrade = lipstick on a pig.

[THRILLHOUSE]

The good news for UC is that all their fans are going nuts over this. They are literally messing themselves ovewr how this is a slam dunk, grand slam hire. Whether this turns out to be true remains to be seen, but as long as the fans are happy. Time for them to step up, if they can't rally support now, they never will.

Whit is also saying he is going to announce a Nippert upgrade in the next few days, so where did a cash strapped athletics department suddenly get that kind of money.

One thing is does say, Whit suspected (or at least hoped) Butch was leaving. He may have been all sad in Friday's press conference, but if you don't think he had Tuberville waiting in the wings, I mean to go from "We need to launch a national search" to "We have our guy" that fast.

Can't fault them for making the most of their situation.

Agreed with everything you and NKYMUSKIE said. While I wouldn't call it a bad hire, it certainly isn't a slam dunk like the UC fans think it is. The guy was pretty much a disaster at Texas Tech. 2004 was a long time ago in sports years. Tub knows that UC is a good situation for him because they are the only half way decent team left in the Big East. He can win a conference championship or two then bold for the first SEC job that becomes available.

[KC4X]

The good news for UC is that all their fans are going nuts over this. They are literally messing themselves ovewr how this is a slam dunk, grand slam hire. Whether this turns out to be true remains to be seen, but as long as the fans are happy. Time for them to step up, if they can't rally support now, they never will.

Whit is also saying he is going to announce a Nippert upgrade in the next few days, so where did a cash strapped athletics department suddenly get that kind of money.

One thing is does say, Whit suspected (or at least hoped) Butch was leaving. He may have been all sad in Friday's press conference, but if you don't think he had Tuberville waiting in the wings, I mean to go from "We need to launch a national search" to "We have our guy" that fast.

Can't fault them for making the most of their situation.

I tend to agree with this. I raised by eyebrows while watching their last game... Butch was noticeably screaming at his defensive coordinator late in the game. Not sure how that's going to be effective (I wouldn't expect players to trust or respect that coach when the head coach is reaming him), not to mention it's totally unprofessional. I don't watch much college football, so I don't know if this is common or not. But, I thought it was strange.

Also, I recall Whit saying that he isn't trying to "win" the press conference but instead intends to find the best coach. Well, I think he was specifically trying to win over the public with this hire. He may or may not be the best coach available, but the search certainly wasn't very long. He may be correct in the end, though, because a big-name hire may result in more fans in the stands.

[THRILLHOUSE]

I tend to agree with this. I raised by eyebrows while watching their last game... Butch was noticeably screaming at his defensive coordinator late in the game. Not sure how that's going to be effective (I wouldn't expect players to trust or respect that coach when the head coach is reaming him), not to mention it's totally unprofessional. I don't watch much college football, so I don't know if this is common or not. But, I thought it was strange.



http://deadspin.com/5959471/an-angry-tommy-tuberville-got-physical-with-one-of-his-assistants-on-the-sideline

[coasterville95]

According to the Enquirer - UC has green lighted the fundraising campaign to renovate Nippert - they want $65-$70 million for that.

Also of note, Tubervile came WITHOUT a contract, the article would have you beleive they haven't even negotiated a salary yet. But they figure coming right off the heels of the Tuberville hire would be the right time to raise funding for the Nippert overhaul.

[xavierj]

According to the Enquirer - UC has green lighted the fundraising campaign to renovate Nippert - they want $65-$70 million for that.

Also of note, Tubervile came WITHOUT a contract, the article would have you beleive they haven't even negotiated a salary yet. But they figure coming right off the heels of the Tuberville hire would be the right time to raise funding for the Nippert overhaul.

Good luck with that.

[xsteve1]

According to the Enquirer - UC has green lighted the fundraising campaign to renovate Nippert - they want $65-$70 million for that.

Also of note, Tubervile came WITHOUT a contract, the article would have you beleive they haven't even negotiated a salary yet. But they figure coming right off the heels of the Tuberville hire would be the right time to raise funding for the Nippert overhaul.

You'd have to think Cronin is thrilled about this. Put all your money into football and screw the basketball facilities.

[PM Thor]

This is ridiculous. They say they are going to upgrade Nippert? There is nowhere to expand Nippert. It's shoehorned as it is now, why do they keep fighting this? It ain't brain surgery, level a couple of the dorms towards Calhoun, level Nippert, play at PBS in the meantime (ha, get Brown to sign off on that) and build a new stadium. Come on man.

Oh wait, this is UC. They can't do anything without it being a total clusterf.

I HATE dayton.

[XUOWNSUC]

This is ridiculous. They say they are going to upgrade Nippert? There is nowhere to expand Nippert. It's shoehorned as it is now, why do they keep fighting this? It ain't brain surgery, level a couple of the dorms towards Calhoun, level Nippert, play at PBS in the meantime (ha, get Brown to sign off on that) and build a new stadium. Come on man.

Oh wait, this is UC. They can't do anything without it being a total clusterf.

I HATE dayton.

I never understood how uc (who supposedly has this great architecture program and who brags about its campus architecture) didn't even have the foresight to at least put in some private boxes (or plan for future Nippert expansion) in the end zone where they built that student recreation center (or whatever the hell it is) years ago. They boxed themselves in with that dumb building. Stupid. But that's uc.

uc sucks.

[coasterville95]

Makes sense, they are a football school now, or so I hear.

They are grasping at anything to get them into a better conference. Football over everything else. Just remember, every dollar funding Bearcat football is a dollar that isn't funding Bearcat Basketball.

By the time Cronin makes his pitch for competitive facilities, Whit will inform him that they can't ask their donors for more money and will point him towards US Bank Arena.

[RealDeal]

Cronin as a basketball coach = US Bank as a basketball facility.

[Muskie]

So apparently Tommy T ditched out on a recruiting dinner to finalize his contract (mid-meal by the way) and then the players learned of him leaving after a tour of the facility the next morning (not done by Tommy T but told by an Assistant).

NBCSports (http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/12/juco-prospect-tuberville-ditched-texas-tech-recruits-during-dinner/)

[coasterville95]

As someone asked me: "What is he running from?"

[DC Muskie]

As someone asked me: "What is he running from?"

His wife killed a guy maybe?
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Wife-of-Texas-Tech-coach-Tommy-Tuberville-could-face-criminal-charges-in-death-of-a-man-injured-in-car-accident-022312


I like how the article makes it seem like UConn is already licking their chops at the prospect of using this incident against Tuberville. The guy has had 3 losing seasons in almost 20 years of coaching. I think he will be alright.

[CSS85]

As someone asked me: "What is he running from?"

Lubbock, Texas. Even native Texans would rather live in the real Siberia than the windswept arid plain of the Texas Siberia that is Lubbock.

[BandAid]

The guy has had 3 losing seasons in almost 20 years of coaching. I think he will be alright.

I'd just like to make it known that I never had a losing season after coaching my EA Sports teams for 30 (digital) years.

And I am far from alright.

[DC Muskie]

I'd just like to make it known that I never had a losing season after coaching my EA Sports teams for 30 (digital) years.

And I am far from alright.

Boom.

[Muskie]

I'd just like to make it known that I never had a losing season after coaching my EA Sports teams for 30 (digital) years.

And I am far from alright.

Post of the year???