2012 Ryder Cup

[BBC 08]

I'm headed up to Chicago for my second Ryder Cup this Friday. Anyone from the board going to be there? Also, who does everyone think is going to win? I'm thinking America in a close one 14.5 - 13.5.

[bleedXblue]

LOVE the Ryder Cup and everything about it.

I think the US wins big. Dont ask me why, just a hunch. 15.5-12.5

[xudash]

Not going to be there, but I'm thinking close like BBC 08. Damn Europeans just get silly with their putters when this event comes around.

[Pluto]

Will be there Friday...can't wait. DLIII is setting the course up perfectly for his team. US wins 16-12.

[bjf123]

USA! USA! USA! We need Tiger to step up his game to win.

[DC Muskie]

Us 16-12.

We built this! We built this! We built this!

[bleedXblue]

Tiger's one guy out of 12. I actually think it's more important that our rookies play well.

I would love to see a Woods-McElroy match up Sunday to determine to Cup

[BBC 08]

I am really looking forward to finally seeing Rory in person. The chance to see his girlfriend is also a good thing.

[nuts4xu]

The chance to see his girlfriend is also a good thing.

Who, this chick?

1032

[bleedXblue]

i think with all his dough, he can do much, much better

[XUglow]

We don't have any Anthony Kim this time. Dude was coming in from his nights on the town when most of the guys were headed out to practice. One of the better moments from 4 years ago was him storming off to the next tee after he won his match with Sergio. Uh... Anthony... come back... match is over.

[BBC 08]

AK was a lot of fun to watch during the 08 Cup. Really wish he can get his head on straight and go back to playing as well as he was back then.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Love the Ryder Cup. Took all the doggies in the morning foursomes. I'm least confident in Phil/Keeg...Phil sprays it everywhere Keegan has been off form lately and is a rookie. They would seem to be a better four ball team than foursome. Guess I'm taking them because everyone I've seen is picking against them. Molinari/Westwood I'm not totally loving either...but with Dufner a rookie and the Euros having the edge in experience, I guess that one comes down to how Johnson putts...because the other three don't roll it well. That's why I'll take experience at even money.

Rory/McDowell and Stricker/Woods seem like the super teams....I'll take the dogs, especially when they are Furyk/Snedeker and Poulter/Rose.

Can't wait....should be fun.

MU [7002] FURYK/SNEDEKER +115 (MCILROY/MCDOWELL vrs FURYK/SNEDEKER)
MU [7004] MICKELSON/BRADLEY +120 (DONALD/GARCIA vrs MICKELSON/BRADLEY)
MU [7005] WESTWOOD/MOLINARI EV (WESTWOOD/MOLINARI vrs DUFNER/JOHNSON, Z.)
MU [7007] POULTER/ROSE +110 (POULTER/ROSE vrs STRICKER/WOODS)

[XUglow]

AK was a lot of fun to watch during the 08 Cup. Really wish he can get his head on straight and go back to playing as well as he was back then.

He's out for about a year due to surgery.

[bjf123]

Not looking good at the moment. We're down in 3 matches and all square in one.

[bleedXblue]

Europe making every putt AGAIN of course

US not playing well either which isnt helping

[BBC 08]

US with the first point. I love the Bradley/Mickelson pairing.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Looks like I'm going to go 2-2 this morning for a very small profit...the beauty of the doggie. Already put in my four ball matches....and man, did my book screw up these lines. Went with all four "dogs" again...however, these aren't really dogs....like I said, bookie screwed up when posting the lines. Hope I can take advantage.

[7009] WATSON/SIMPSON +130 (WATSON/SIMPSON vrs LAWRIE/HANSON) -- Watson/Simpson line is now them favored at -140
[7012] MCDOWELL/MCILROY +115 (MICKELSON/BRADLEY vrs MCDOWELL/MCILROY) -- McDowell/McIlory line is now them favored at -130
[7013] DJOHNSON/KUCHAR +125 (DJOHNSON/KUCHAR vrs ROSE/KAYMER) -- Johnson/Kuchar line is now them favored at -145
[7015] STRICKER/WOODS +120 (STRICKER/WOODS vrs WESTWOOD/COLSAERTS) -- Stricker/Woods line is now them favored at -140

I hope my bookie honors the line screw up. Of course, knowing my luck, with this gift I'm being given, I'll go 0-4 anyway.

[BBC 08]

Looking at the afternoon pairings I'm thinking we end the day at 4-4. I'll be sure to bring the luck when I get there.

[chico]

Bubba teed off number 1 while the crowd was still cheering - and Watson was behind him waving his arms to keep them going.

[paulxu]

I haven't a damn clue what any of that stuff in Nigel's post means.

[Nigel Tufnel]

I haven't a damn clue what any of that stuff in Nigel's post means.

paul, to put it as simply as possible, the bookie had the favorites listed as underdogs and vice versa.

For example, it should have cost $14 to win $10 on Bubba/Simpson. Instead, I got them at underdogs so a $10 bet would pay out $13.

Hope that helps.

[X-band '01]

5-3 after one day. Day 1 is usually when the Euros rack up most of their points - hopefully a good sign for the weekend.

[bleedXblue]

5-3 after one day. Day 1 is usually when the Euros rack up most of their points - hopefully a good sign for the weekend.

As soon as Davis and Freddie figure out that Tiger is one of the worst all time Ryder Cup players, this team will be hard to beat.

No doubt I would sit him tomorrow.

[X-band '01]

I think it was a CBS Sports article (trying to find the link) that says while Tiger has an overall losing record in Ryder Cup play, he is 4-1-1 in singles matches. Maybe the Bald Eagle and Stricker have a decent chemistry for all I know.

[bleedXblue]

I think it was a CBS Sports article (trying to find the link) that says while Tiger has an overall losing record in Ryder Cup play, he is 4-1-1 in singles matches. Maybe the Bald Eagle and Stricker have a decent chemistry for all I know.

yep sit him until you have to play him Sunday

[bjf123]

Tiger is sitting for the morning foursome matches.


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[bjf123]

Tiger is just not that good as a team player. He and Stricker are getting smoked this afternoon.


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[X-band '01]

Team USA ain't getting smoked - they're up 10-6 going into singles action tomorrow. They just need 4 1/2 points to win back the Cup.

[bjf123]

Woods & Stricker made a bit of a comeback from down 4 at the turn to losing 1 down. The team's in great shape to win back the cup.


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[DC Muskie]

The Euros are off to a good start.

[X-band '01]

That's been posted all 3 days DC - doesn't necessarily mean that's how they'll finish.

[DC Muskie]

All that matters is how it finishes today. It would be great to win the first match up but Bubba is screwing it up!

[X-band '01]

It'll be interesting to see how Rory finishes today - he literally showed up 5-10 minutes prior to his tee time. I would have expected that from Team USA, not Team Europe.

[DC Muskie]

10 all. What a great day!

[DC Muskie]

11 all.

Awesome!

[xudash]

This thing may well come down to Stricker and Woods. If it's on the line with Woods needing a win, it certainly will become the Windy City adventure.

[bjf123]

CHOKE! The entire US team should be embarrassed by that colossal collapse. Didn't we have 3 or 4 guys at the end who were up after 16 holes and lost their matches? Only needed one of them to hang on for a win and the US wins the cup. Absolutely embarrassing.


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[BENWAR]

Jim Furyk has choked all year long.

[nuts4xu]

Jim Furyk has choked all year long.

No doubt. Tough loss, hate to cough up a 4 point lead like that.

Just brutal.

[Masterofreality]

Biggest Choke job ever....and make no mistake, it was a gag.

Jim Furyk can't finish a round of golf anymore. Maybe he needs to be drinking SIX Hour Energy.

[danaandvictory]

The "veterans" on the team -- Stricker, Furyk, Phil, Tiger -- could not have gagged any worse.

[DC Muskie]

I still can't believe we blew it.

[boozehound]

The "veterans" on the team -- Stricker, Furyk, Phil, Tiger -- could not have gagged any worse.

Agreed. Furyk and Stricker in particular were not very good captains picks, IMHO.

Worst collapse in Ryder Cup history.

[bleedXblue]

No ones talking about the mismanagement of the team ?

Sitting your best team in Mickelson and Bradley for the Woods/Sticker team on Saturday afternoon ?

Putting those two guys LAST in singles ? WTF ?

I would have out them first to concede the points.

EVERYONE knew Europe would go out strong early yesteday with their best players.

[DC Muskie]

No ones talking about the mismanagement of the team ?

Sitting your best team in Mickelson and Bradley for the Woods/Sticker team on Saturday afternoon ?

Putting those two guys LAST in singles ? WTF ?

I would have out them first to concede the points.

EVERYONE knew Europe would go out strong early yesteday with their best players.

Lefty asked to sit so he could be ready for Sunday.

The idea was the young guys who were playing well would jump out and get some points. What happened?

Bubba spent his time making sure the crowd was loud while he shanked his drive on the first tee. Keagan Bradley decided to get agreesive when he didn't need to against Rory who almost missed his tee time.

Would those guys have played better had they went last? You would concede points in the beginning and that's a good thing? We didn't lose this because of the two guys at the end, we lost this in the middle.

[bleedXblue]

Lefty asked to sit so he could be ready for Sunday.

The idea was the young guys who were playing well would jump out and get some points. What happened?

Bubba spent his time making sure the crowd was loud while he shanked his drive on the first tee. Keagan Bradley decided to get agreesive when he didn't need to against Rory who almost missed his tee time.

Would those guys have played better had they went last? You would concede points in the beginning and that's a good thing? We didn't lose this because of the two guys at the end, we lost this in the middle.

How many Ryder Cups have come down to the last 3-4 singles matches ? The vast majority of them do.

I dont care if the US had a 4 point lead or not.

Those are your anchor spots. Love chose to go with the vets, and they didn't hold serve.

Love could have paired Bradley with someone else on Saturday afternoon. Woods and Stricker were 0-2 and neither was playing well.

My conversation with Lefty would have been brief. You may be a little tired, but you're my best team and you're playing.

[DC Muskie]

How many Ryder Cups have come down to the last 3-4 singles matches ? The vast majority of them do.

I dont care if the US had a 4 point lead or not.

Those are your anchor spots. Love chose to go with the vets, and they didn't hold serve.

Love could have paired Bradley with someone else on Saturday afternoon. Woods and Stricker were 0-2 and neither was playing well.

My conversation with Lefty would have been brief. You may be a little tired, but you're my best team and you're playing.

How would you have set your lineup? Poulter and Rose played really well one the back nine. No one from the US won the 17th and 18th.

That's remarkable. Snedeker was terrible on Sunday. Lost to a guy who hadn't played all weekend.

[BBC 08]

I'm headed up to Chicago for my second Ryder Cup this Friday. Anyone from the board going to be there? Also, who does everyone think is going to win? I'm thinking America in a close one 14.5 - 13.5.

I definitely meant Europe 14.5 - 13.5, not America. Ugh. Still a great weekend though.

[bleedXblue]

How would you have set your lineup? Poulter and Rose played really well one the back nine. No one from the US won the 17th and 18th.

That's remarkable. Snedeker was terrible on Sunday. Lost to a guy who hadn't played all weekend.

EVERYONE knew Europe was going to lead with their best players for the singles matches.

I would have done the exact opposite.

I would have put our best players 5-6 at the back of the lineup.

Stricker and Tiger would have gone 1-2 for me. You get ANYTHING out of either and it's a bonus.

Furyk had already folded TWICE this year under the pressure of the last few holes in a big tourney.

I would have run him out early too.

[DC Muskie]

EVERYONE knew Europe was going to lead with their best players for the singles matches.

I would have done the exact opposite.

I would have put our best players 5-6 at the back of the lineup.

Stricker and Tiger would have gone 1-2 for me. You get ANYTHING out of either and it's a bonus.

Furyk had already folded TWICE this year under the pressure of the last few holes in a big tourney.

I would have run him out early too.

This was the lineup...
Bubba Watson v Luke Donald
Webb Simpson v Ian Poulter
Keegan Bradley v Rory McIlroy
Phil Mickelson v Justin Rose
Brandt Snedeker v Paul Lawrie
Dustin Johnson v Nicolas Colsaerts
Zach Johnson v Graeme McDowell
Jim Furyk v Sergio Garcia
Jason Dufner v Peter Hanson
Matt Kuchar v Lee Westwood
Steve Stricker v Martin Kaymer
Tiger Woods v Francesco Molinari

Here's a guess of how you would set it up...

Steve Stricker v Luke Donald
Tiger Woods v Ian Poulter
Jim Furyk v Rory McIlroy
Phil Mickelson v Justin Rose
Brandt Snedeker v Paul Lawrie
Dustin Johnson v Nicolas Colsaerts
Zach Johnson v Graeme McDowell
Bubba Watson v Sergio Garcia
Jason Dufner v Peter Hanson
Matt Kuchar v Lee Westwood
Webb Simpson v Martin Kaymer
Keegan Bradley v Francesco Molinari

We would still be at 10-9 by the time Phil played Rose and lost so we would be at 10-10. As I mentioned before Brandt sucked and there we would still have been down 11-10 before we get Dustin Johnson's win. Then we pick up another with Zach and then Dufner. So you're hoping that the kids will be able to pull off anchoring the team.

Seriously how would you lay it out? I'm interested to see the other side of this.

[bleedXblue]

This was the lineup...
Bubba Watson v Luke Donald
Webb Simpson v Ian Poulter
Keegan Bradley v Rory McIlroy
Phil Mickelson v Justin Rose
Brandt Snedeker v Paul Lawrie
Dustin Johnson v Nicolas Colsaerts
Zach Johnson v Graeme McDowell
Jim Furyk v Sergio Garcia
Jason Dufner v Peter Hanson
Matt Kuchar v Lee Westwood
Steve Stricker v Martin Kaymer
Tiger Woods v Francesco Molinari

Here's a guess of how you would set it up...

Steve Stricker v Luke Donald
Tiger Woods v Ian Poulter
Jim Furyk v Rory McIlroy
Phil Mickelson v Justin Rose
Brandt Snedeker v Paul Lawrie
Dustin Johnson v Nicolas Colsaerts
Zach Johnson v Graeme McDowell
Bubba Watson v Sergio Garcia
Jason Dufner v Peter Hanson
Matt Kuchar v Lee Westwood
Webb Simpson v Martin Kaymer
Keegan Bradley v Francesco Molinari

We would still be at 10-9 by the time Phil played Rose and lost so we would be at 10-10. As I mentioned before Brandt sucked and there we would still have been down 11-10 before we get Dustin Johnson's win. Then we pick up another with Zach and then Dufner. So you're hoping that the kids will be able to pull off anchoring the team.

Seriously how would you lay it out? I'm interested to see the other side of this.

The entire basis for my reasoning is you dont put the two guys who have performed the worst at the end of day when the Cup is usually hanging in the balance. My last five would have been Kuchar, Snedeker, Bradley, Dufner and Z. Johnson. I would have led off with 3 you list.

It's all conjecture and second guessing now anyway.

If Stricker gets up and down on 17 from behind the pin, the whole outcome would have been totally different. No idea why one of the best putters in the world elects to chip from the fringe on a downhill, tight lie where the risk for running it by 5-6 feet is really high.

[DC Muskie]

The entire basis for my reasoning is you dont put the two guys who have performed the worst at the end of day when the Cup is usually hanging in the balance. My last five would have been Kuchar, Snedeker, Bradley, Dufner and Z. Johnson. I would have led off with 3 you list.

I can see that. Zach Johnson as the anchor is an interesting pick, but I can go with that.


If Stricker gets up and down on 17 from behind the pin, the whole outcome would have been totally different. No idea why one of the best putters in the world elects to chip from the fringe on a downhill, tight lie where the risk for running it by 5-6 feet is really high.

Ha! No doubt. The guy was simply terrible.