Are You Ready For Some College FB? [Archive] - Page 2

xubrew

11-29-2012, 11:19 PM

If Kent State beats Northern Illinois tomorrow, they'll be an AQ for the BCS.

The selection order goes Fiesta, then Sugar, Then Orange. I would imagine that Louisville is more attractive to the bowl committees than Kent, so they could end up in the Sugar Bowl against Florida. A slight mismatch.

I'm still hoping that Georgia Tech can upset Florida State, and that we get a Kent State vs Georgia Tech Orange Bowl. It would be epically non-epic.

GoMuskies

11-29-2012, 11:42 PM

Both Bowling Green and ULL play Florida right down to the wire. They're good, but they're not exactly invincible.

BBC, looking forward to seeing you on South Beach or on Bourbon Street.

paulxu

12-01-2012, 06:34 PM

xudash

12-01-2012, 06:48 PM

Having a hard time digesting that Georgia is ahead at this point.

Passed up an opportunity to watch the UC/Conn game on pay-per-view ($77.00!!!!)

Is there ANY question that the young ladies of the SEC are the best looking in the counrty? (See game shots at Ala/Ga game)

A comment for each one of your comments. Number one, I think Georgia is responding to all of the talk about them not having a chance in this game.

Number two, that is extraordinary; I wonder how many viewers they sold at that price.

And C, No doubt about it. That whole Southern Belle dynamic has carried forward nicely over the generations. I hope it lasts forever.

xsteve1

12-01-2012, 07:04 PM

This SEC football is soooo much better than the crap they play in the Big East and ACC. What a game.

xudash

12-01-2012, 07:13 PM

This SEC football is soooo much better than the crap they play in the Big East and ACC. What a game.

Yep. Someone forgot to tell us that the national championship game was actually being played today on CBS.

Notre Dame is going to get annihilated, regardless of which two of these teams show up in the actual NC game.

bourbonman

12-01-2012, 07:19 PM

This is an awesome game. But I thought it would be more a defensive battle. This 2nd half is insane.

XUglow

12-01-2012, 07:37 PM

What a game.

paulxu

12-01-2012, 07:44 PM

Alabama trying to hold on to meet the Irish.

Hard to believe the Cocks held Georgia to 7 pts. They didn't score on us until 2 minutes left in the game.

paulxu

12-01-2012, 07:55 PM

The "prevent" defense almost prevents you from winning. Crazy game.

bourbonman

12-01-2012, 07:55 PM

Wow. What a game. Sad to see that last pass on a great drive. Instant classic IMO.

xsteve1

12-01-2012, 07:56 PM

Georgia should of clocked it and had 2 shots at the endzone. Great game never the less.

xudash

12-01-2012, 08:00 PM

xudash

12-01-2012, 08:10 PM

It appears as though there are gobs of empty seats for the Big Ten championship game.

I'll have to look more closely, but the upper sections look like they're completely empty at least on one end.

That isn't good.

chico

12-01-2012, 08:14 PM

Damn that was a great game. I'll never understand the prevent, either. Bama pressured Murray the last series and sacked him. Why not pressure him so he can't sit back there and pick you apart.

I hope ND can at least give them a game. I think I saw where the early line was Bama by 9.5, but I would expect it to go higher.

xu95

12-02-2012, 04:40 AM

xubrew

12-02-2012, 10:25 AM

How do you not ground the ball and set up for at least two plays into the end zone from there?

I know it's the heat of battle and all of that, but the receiver that went ahead and caught the pass should've batted it down, knowing that the ball had been tipped; he had to of known that he had defenders at the 5 yard line that were going to keep him out of the end zone.

Poor UGA.

The same reason some basketball coaches don't call timeout in the final seconds if they're down one. It is a chance for your own team to draw something up, but it's also a chance for the defense to talk about what they want to do. In a situation that is chaotic, you have a big advantage if you know what you want to do. Had they spiked the ball after crossing midfield like the announcers were saying they should, chances are they wouldn't have been able to pull off the play that moved it inside the ten. Alabama would have had time to get their defense called.

It didn't work, but it wasn't bad coaching. The play called. They were ready. No need to spike the ball and let the defense get set. The ball was batted, and the receiver instinctively caught it. Perhaps he should have had the presence of mind to bat it down, but when it is in your instinct to catch the ball, it was understandable. Had the ball not been batted, it would have either been caught for a touchdown, or incomplete in the endzone, which would have given them time to set up two more plays. It was a fluke.

And Alabama can go to hell.....

xubrew

12-02-2012, 10:30 AM

Jerry Palm, who actually knows this stuff pretty well, is predicting that Northern Illinois will finish #16 and go to the Orange Bowl. That is a hell of a jump. He kind of explained the math, and I kind of understood it, but....well.....okay, I didn't understand it. He's saying Northern Illinois will be in and Oklahoma will be SOL>

That would put Louisville in the Sugar Bowl to face Florida.

I guess that makes it possible for a Georgia vs Oklahoma Cotton Bowl. Ironically, that will be a far more intriguing game than the "major" bowl that is the ORange Bowl, that will match Florida State against Northern Illinois. For that matter, Florida vs Louisville is probably a snoozer of a game as well.

GoMuskies

12-02-2012, 10:33 AM

I think the voters may yet screw NIU. But Wisconsin beating Nebraska by 100 points sure didn't hurt. It's kind of tough to justify ranking Nebraska very high after that.

Definitely excited at the possibility of Louisville in the Sugar.

GoMuskies

12-02-2012, 04:19 PM

Bob Stoops's vote in this week's coaches' poll is ridiculous. It should once and for all end coaches' votes counting for anything important. NIU #24 and Nebraska #15. Pathetic.

GoMuskies

12-02-2012, 05:54 PM

Couldn't keep NIU out, though! I'm going to New Orleans!

BBC 08

12-02-2012, 06:05 PM

Couldn't keep NIU out, though! I'm going to New Orleans!

Gonna do everything I can to be down there as well.

GoMuskies

12-02-2012, 08:52 PM

bobbiemcgee

12-02-2012, 09:06 PM

mac team in the Orange Bowl? Wow.

paulxu

12-09-2012, 01:46 PM

OK all you Michigan people. The Gamecocks will be waiting for you on New Year's day.
Louisville v. Florida? What? Go, are you going to that game?

Meanwhile, you ND guys need to get to work. We take our football seriously in the South.

Serious football:
http://www.theheismanwinners.com/images/010710-alabama-cheerleader_1_.jpg

Not so serious football:
http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2010/5/25/129192791514187175.jpg

xudash

12-09-2012, 02:59 PM

Why would you even have "GO" in backwards print on the back of the card. Whatever.

Thinking about UL v. UF, I immediately recall Florida dismantling UC. Louisville is going to get pasted.

GoMuskies

12-09-2012, 03:05 PM

Louisville v. Florida? What? Go, are you going to that game?

Tickets will be in hand tomorrow. Hotel and transportation already arranged.

But I've got Xavier basketball games against Wofford and Tennessee to attend first.

SM#24

12-10-2012, 09:38 AM

Hilarious watching ESPN folks crying for poor, marginalized Oklahoma. How can a school like Oklahoma ever expect to get a fair shake against a MAC school?

Poor Oklahoma has to go to the Cotton Bowl. It's such an injustice!

I didn't catch all of the ESPN chatter, but this concept that the "system" is now messed up because of NIU is way off base. They should be going after Wisconsin and Louisville before NIU. Poorly ranked conference champs have been pipping higher ranked at large teams since the beginning of time. But all of a sudden, now it's a problem because a MAC team got in. They have a rule that an extrraordinarily high ranked at large team is an auto bid (3rd or 4th). They should have had the reverse of that; a conference champ not ranked in the top 15-20 loses it's spot. NIU should be in the Rose Bowl as a replacement for Wisconsin; what do you think of that Jim Delaney ?

Actually, Okla-TexA&M is one of the very few bowl games I'm actually looking forward to watching this year.

GoMuskies

12-10-2012, 01:34 PM

Bobby Petrino is the new head football coach at Western Kentucky. WKU opens next season against UK in Nashville.

The 'Tops are now my second favorite team.

xubrew

12-10-2012, 07:04 PM

Western Kentucky is poised for success for the next few years. That success will be followed by them getting completely blindsided in some way, shape, or form. No one exits a program quite like Petrino does. His last exit will be tough to beat, but I do have faith in him.

GoMuskies

12-10-2012, 07:09 PM

If WKU gets blindsided by Petrino, they are really stupid.

Or, as you say, Petrino finds some really epic way to bail. I suppose that's possible.

GoMuskies

01-03-2013, 11:05 AM

If the Big East completely crumbles now, at least it went out with a bang. 4-0 against the SEC capped by the Cards stomping the Gators. Good times.

xudash

01-03-2013, 11:11 AM

If the Big East completely crumbles now, at least it went out with a bang. 4-0 against the SEC capped by the Cards stomping the Gators. Good times.

I'm surprised you're even capable of posting this morning.

I had you down for a NOLA road trip, and I had you projected laying in a gutter somewhere just off Bourbon Street right about now, just waking up with a sh!t-eating grin on your face.

Louisville just didn't win the game. They beat the holy crap out of the Gators. I love watching Muschump lose it like that.

Congrats!

GoMuskies

01-03-2013, 11:47 AM

I can post fine. Talking? Not so much!

paulxu

01-03-2013, 02:28 PM

Damn. Even with some crafty Nigel theories I wouldn't have won any money on that game.
Congrats Go! I hope your Cards eventually get to the Big 12 and enjoy success.

paulxu

01-07-2013, 08:37 PM

Didn't take long for the Tide to start rolling.

GoMuskies

01-07-2013, 08:54 PM

Musberger is really unhappy about this.

GoMuskies

01-07-2013, 09:06 PM

Musberger talking about the Alabama QB's girlfriend got creepy.

paulxu

01-07-2013, 09:07 PM

McCaron's girlfriend is very nice.

Musberger is creepy.

XU 87

01-07-2013, 09:08 PM

IF ND starts playing a little better, they might be able to keep the score to 84-0.

RealDeal

01-07-2013, 09:08 PM

Musberger talking about the Alabama QB's girlfriend got creepy.

Yes, yes it did.

xsteve1

01-07-2013, 09:09 PM

McCaron's girlfriend is very nice.

Outstanding.

xsteve1

01-07-2013, 09:11 PM

The rest of College Football better hope Saban takes an NFL job. And it's got to be tough being an Auburn fan.

GoMuskies

01-07-2013, 09:12 PM

The rest of College Football better hope Sabin takes an NFL job.

Texas A&M is better than Bama. Just took a while for Johnny F. to get it going as a freshman.

BandAid

01-07-2013, 09:40 PM

Musberger is quite the cheerleader

GoMuskies

01-07-2013, 09:54 PM

Had to agree with something I read on another board: "Thank you Florida and Notre Dame for illustrating that a 4 team playoff will be just as useless as the current system, maybe worse."

xudash

01-07-2013, 09:55 PM

IF ND starts playing a little better, they might be able to keep the score to 84-0.

They don't belong in this.

SLAUGHTER

I blame Pitt.

paulxu

01-07-2013, 09:57 PM

If you want to run with the big dogs, you better get off the porch.

(Another shot of Miss Alabama. Nice)

XU 87

01-07-2013, 09:59 PM

ND is getting dominated at the line of scrimmage. And their tackling is awful. I didn't think they would win, but I didn't think this would happen.

xsteve1

01-07-2013, 09:59 PM

Men against boys. This Bama team would've beat last Saturdays Bengals.

GoMuskies

01-07-2013, 10:02 PM

This Bama team would've beat last Saturdays Bengals.

Yes, but Bama is most certainly not below the salary cap.

XUOWNSUC

01-07-2013, 10:03 PM

A playoff is way superior to the current format. Whoever made that comment is clueless. This is just one year. Besides, perhaps a playoff would have Oregon playing Alabama tonight instead of ND.

gladdenguy

01-07-2013, 10:04 PM

Hey Notre Dame, Stanford and Pitt called......karma is a bitch.

XUOWNSUC

01-07-2013, 10:05 PM

Men against boys. This Bama team would've beat last Saturdays Bengals.

No way. Please.

Nigel Tufnel

01-07-2013, 10:14 PM

2nd half prop bet....

ND 1st downs v. TV shots of McCarron's girl -5.

I'm taking McCarron's girl. She is going to be featured this second half if this game continues like this. And rightfully so.

STL_XUfan

01-07-2013, 10:31 PM

McCarrons 5 scores in the game are second to his one score later tonight #musbergerthoughts

GoMuskies

01-07-2013, 10:44 PM

Can Bama get back to back title game shutouts? That appears to be the only drama remaining (save for Musberger's suspense at what position McCarron will be using to nail Miss Alabama this fine evening).

paulxu

01-07-2013, 10:52 PM

I hope she doesn't hold that defensive lapse against him.

chico

01-07-2013, 10:54 PM

Well, every other team in college football is home watching this game. And they are probably happy they are.

XU 87

01-07-2013, 11:04 PM

I keep hoping they will stop showing this game and start showing the Texas-USC game from a few years ago. This is possibly the worst BCS game ever. This game was never competitive.

They should do away with this game. Just crown the SEC champion as the national champion.

I wonder how OSU would have done against Bama.

xsteve1

01-07-2013, 11:13 PM

ND was in way over their heads. Bama too big and fast. Just a bad matchup.

XUglow

01-07-2013, 11:17 PM

James Franklin got nearly crucified for having 3 SEC teams on his ballot ranked higher than ND. We see now that he was being kind.

drudy23

01-07-2013, 11:25 PM

JV vs Varsity tonight.

Nigel Tufnel

01-07-2013, 11:29 PM

I posted this in another thread (one talking about how Duke didn't cover +9.5 against UC)

"In a previous post, I talked about how the books move lines based on teams people love to bet on. This gives Vegas a huge advantage because instead of posting the line as they think it should be set, they add a couple of points to the public team to give them an edge. Teams that the public bets huge on are the Dallas Cowboys, Green Bay Packers, and Notre Dame. That ND line is interesting this year because it opened at Alabama -8 and is currently setting at Alabama -10. However, 65% of the bets are coming in on ND, but the line is not moving down. If I was a betting man (hehe), I would guess that the books actually think Alabama should be favored by -12/-13. But if the majority of bets are coming in on ND, why move it down? Vegas is gaining the advantage of keeping the line 2-3 points lower than they think it should be while all the ND lovers are still betting on it at -10."

One of the few times I actually was right. The line of this game should have been Bama -13 or -14. The books made a killing tonight. 65% of the bets were coming in on ND at +10. The sharps were on Bama, but with so many bets coming in on ND, the books still won big. Again, if you can get 65% on ND +10 even though it should be ND +14, why not take a 3 to 4 point advantage? This one was easy money. Photocopy of OSU versus the SEC.

And the score would be the same or worse if this was OSU tonight, in my opinion.

XUglow

01-07-2013, 11:41 PM

And the score would be the same or worse if this was OSU tonight, in my opinion.

I think Urban said as much this evening.

Strange Brew

01-07-2013, 11:49 PM

James Franklin got nearly crucified for having 3 SEC teams on his ballot ranked higher than ND. We see now that he was being kind.

Yeah, Florida clearly was worthy of their ranking.....

Oh, and LSU as well.....

Damn, almost forgot MSU. That powerhouse lost to Northwestern for the love...

Shoot, I forgot Vandy. HUGE props to Franklin for managing to devise the genius strategy required to knock off a 4-4 ACC team. Awesome, that guy's the frickin' Rain Man of college football.

xudash

01-07-2013, 11:52 PM

I think Urban said as much this evening.

It won't be that way in about three years.

Nigel Tufnel

01-07-2013, 11:59 PM

It won't be that way in about three years.

Agree...its going to be scary what he does in Columbus in the upcoming years. It will be impressive...obnoxious beyond all belief....but impressive nonetheless.

SM#24

01-08-2013, 07:41 AM

Musberger talking about the Alabama QB's girlfriend got creepy.

Creepy, yes, but let's not lose sight of the important message he was trying to deliver to today's youth...Become the star QB and you can get any girl you want.

GuyFawkes38

01-08-2013, 08:24 AM

According to my twitter feed on potential Alabama match ups by a Las Vegas odds maker:
Ohio State +14
Oregon +3
Kansas City Chiefs -24 (yes, NFL teams are much, much better than the best college football teams).

This year defintely exposes a major weakness in the BCS. Even if OSU was eligible, we would likely get another blowout. Best match up would have been oregon, which was out of question.

As long as the BCS is still around, we will nearly always have an SEC team in the championship game (which, at this point, is fair).

Juice

01-08-2013, 08:32 AM

According to my twitter feed on potential Alabama match ups by a Las Vegas odds maker:
Ohio State -14
Oregon -3
Kansas City Chiefs +24 (yes, NFL teams are much, much better than the best college football teams).

This year defintely exposes a major weakness in the BCS. Even if OSU was eligible, we would likely get another blowout. Best match up would have been oregon, which was out of question.

As long as the BCS is still around, we will nearly always have an SEC team in the championship game.

I think OSU was pretty similar to ND in that they did run the table but they had some trouble with some pretty average teams. They're schedule wasn't as good as ND's either.

xu95

01-08-2013, 08:44 AM

Roll freaking Tide. I am a very happy man this morning.

XUglow

01-08-2013, 09:03 AM

Yeah, Florida clearly was worthy of their ranking.....

Oh, and LSU as well.....

Damn, almost forgot MSU. That powerhouse lost to Northwestern for the love...

Shoot, I forgot Vandy. HUGE props to Franklin for managing to devise the genius strategy required to knock off a 4-4 ACC team. Awesome, that guy's the frickin' Rain Man of college football.

Sounds like someone bet on ND.

You have a valid point about UF, but the discussion about MSU and Vandy is off base. After watching ND last night, I would put them behind Bama and TAMU in the SEC West and probably behind LSU. The fact that Les Miles cannot manage the clock makes that a toss up. Talent-wise, it is not close.

ND would probably be very competitive in the SEC East. I would have them a bit behind UGA and on par with USCe and UF.

It was supposed to be a down year for the SEC, and in many respects, it was. Overall, most of the top teams will return most of their top players, and the SEC should have one of their best seasons ever next year.

DC Muskie

01-08-2013, 09:22 AM

XUglow

01-08-2013, 10:42 AM

This was a down year across the board for college football, let alone the SEC. So in the end the SEC still ended up the best.

I'm hoping the new playoff system breathes some life into this sport, because its highlighted game is complete dogshit lately. I watched none of it last night.

I made the right decision.

I hate it that the playoff is only 4 teams. It will be a hot mess deciding who does and who doesn't get into those 4 spots. Texas A&M wouldn't have made a 4 team playoff this year. They might have made an 8-team playoff. They definitely would have made a 16-team playoff. No one would have wanted to face them at the end of the year. Oregon would have likely missed this year as well. What good is a play-off that would leave those teams out of the mix?

paulxu

01-08-2013, 11:00 AM

It would seem that if they ever got to the 4 X 16, the conference championship games themselves would be the 8 teams in the playoffs in a manner of speaking.
Then again, you could start broadening out with NFL type wild-card deals.
I do like the conf championship games with 4 winners going to the playoffs. Makes the regular season very important.

DC Muskie

01-08-2013, 11:28 AM

I hate it that the playoff is only 4 teams. It will be a hot mess deciding who does and who doesn't get into those 4 spots. Texas A&M wouldn't have made a 4 team playoff this year. They might have made an 8-team playoff. They definitely would have made a 16-team playoff. No one would have wanted to face them at the end of the year. Oregon would have likely missed this year as well. What good is a play-off that would leave those teams out of the mix?

As opposed to the current system?

chico

01-08-2013, 12:14 PM

I like the 4 team playoff. If you open it up it devalues the regular season and it means your national champ is a good team that got hot at the end of the year, not the one that had the best season. That's the one thing I don't like about the NFL playoffs - too often a team gets hot and sneaks in, then wins the whole thing. There needs to be some reward for having a great season. Leaving it at 4 teams - with each conference having championship games and a way for non-Big 4 conference teams to make the playoff - is the best way to do this.

As for Texas A&M, if they would have stayed in the Big 12 they might have been playing for a national title. Enter the SEC at your own risk.

GuyFawkes38

01-08-2013, 12:28 PM

Imagine if OSU was not banned. That would mean OSU vs ND in the BCS championship. Alabama would be double digit favorites over both teams.

It's not perfect, but we desperately need a 4 team playoff.

chico

01-08-2013, 01:14 PM

Imagine if OSU was not banned. That would mean OSU vs ND in the BCS championship. Alabama would be double digit favorites over both teams.

It's not perfect, but we desperately need a 4 team playoff.

I think I heard somewhere that even if OSU was undefeated (with a win in the B1G Championship game) they still would not have been ranked ahead of Bama.

boozehound

01-08-2013, 01:20 PM

I think I heard somewhere that even if OSU was undefeated (with a win in the B1G Championship game) they still would not have been ranked ahead of Bama.

No way a 1 loss Bama would have played in the title game over undefeated OSU and ND though. Even if they were a better team.

DC Muskie

01-08-2013, 01:24 PM

I think I heard somewhere that even if OSU was undefeated (with a win in the B1G Championship game) they still would not have been ranked ahead of Bama.

If that were the case, the War of Northern Aggression would have looked like a picnic.

SM#24

01-08-2013, 02:21 PM

No way a 1 loss Bama would have played in the title game over undefeated OSU and ND though. Even if they were a better team.
I believe what I heard was that if Ohio St was #2 and Alabama #3 in both polls, the Bama computer advantage would have vaulted it ahead of the Bucks.

chico

01-08-2013, 02:47 PM

No way a 1 loss Bama would have played in the title game over undefeated OSU and ND though. Even if they were a better team.

Searched for an article since I think I heard it on ESPN, and found this.

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2012/12/post_99.html

So apparently there would be a way for Bama to make it over OSU, but who knows if there was voter bias toward OSU because of their probation.

SM#24

01-08-2013, 04:52 PM

Good find, I'm surpised at Ohio St.'s computer rankings even as an undefeated since their schedule was not very good (poor OOC and down year for Big Ten). Personally, I believe in the end, if Ohio St was eligible, the voters would have put them at #2, not by a lot, but enough to edge Bama.