Huggins Drunk At Coaching Clinic?

[Xavgrad08]

Sounds like this guy has some real issues. I can't imagine Nike was happy about this.

http://deadspin.com/5902766/?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

[LadyMuskie]

This should be listed under #thingsthatareunsurprising.

[DC Muskie]

How many drinks have you had sir?

Yes.

[X-Fan]

Wait? Was it Beer-Thirty? If so, then it's totally ok.

[smileyy]

Why would anyone want to hear Huggins talk about offense anyway? I was unaware that West Virginia ran one.

[waggy]

Why would anyone want to hear Huggins talk about offense anyway? I was unaware that West Virginia ran one.

:D That's why he got drunk.. thinking of his offense.. "I said Foul"! "Oh wait, that's our defensive stragedy."

[nuts4xu]

This is classic!!

I am a fan of the happy kind of drunk. I know many and enjoy their company.

Bob Huggins is a sad and pathetic kind of drunk. However, he still cracks me up and everytime he does something like this, I laugh out loud at his problems in alcohol.

Yes, I am going to hell....this much I know is true.

[Cheesehead]

Shocker!

One would think after nearly dying, that the man would actually make an attempt at changing his life instead of becoming a 300 pound drunken mess.

[Kahns Krazy]

Huggs used to be a happy drunk. I remember seeing him at football games all boozed up, and he and the people with him all seemed to be having a good time. I think he became Barney after the heart attack.

[STL_XUfan]

fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son....

http://cdn1.hark.com/images/000/037/385/37385/original.0

[Muskie]

This is classic!!

I am a fan of the happy kind of drunk. I know many and enjoy their company.

Bob Huggins is a sad and pathetic kind of drunk. However, he still cracks me up and everytime he does something like this, I laugh out loud at his problems in alcohol.

Yes, I am going to hell....this much I know is true.

We enjoy your company too Nuts.

[outsideobserver11]

Apparently there is a youtube video of a clip from his presentation. Also, heard that one of his statements was "bad shots lead to bad passes." That is some profound thinking there, I have had it wrong all these years and feel i should go personally apologize to every kid I have ever coached for steering them wrong.

[Masterofreality]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha......

....HA!

Somehow this will never be mentioned on B-ESPN- especially next year when they are broadcasting Mountaineer games and fawning all over BeelzeBob.

Please, just go away, Thuggysaurus.

[RealDeal]

Apparently there is a youtube video of a clip from his presentation. Also, heard that one of his statements was "bad shots lead to bad passes." .

They do when they're shots of jack.

[danaandvictory]

WV games will be broadcast on Big12-SPN next year.

"Forget it, he's rolling..."

[Kahns Krazy]

Also, heard that one of his statements was "bad shots lead to bad passes." .

How many bad shots did Joe have?

http://www.thrillist.com/pics/drunk.joe.jpg

[Xpectations]

He is who we thought he was.

[Masterofreality]

WV games will be broadcast on Big12-SPN next year.

True. B-Espn already shows lots of Big 12 games too- especially on Monday and Wednesday nights. It also looks like they're about to show more, if you believe Bleacher Report. There will be plenty of chances for the fat slob to have his juiced mug on TV.

Big 12 New TV Deal (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1103436-espn-and-big-12-reportedly-approaching-lucrative-tv-extension)

[danaandvictory]

I think Huggins is hilarious and this latest fiasco has done nothing to change that.

[Smails]

Cut the big guy some slack. He probably saw that he was on the agenda to talk about offense, realized that he doesn't coach offense, and decided to tie one on. What's the big deal?

[xubrew]

After bombing a speech because you were bombed, you don't know you bombed it. He probably walked off thinking he nailed it, and then had another drink.

For those that are pissed off and want a refund, how can they say that?? What could possibly be better than watching a speech like the one Huggins gave??

"Bad shot lead to bad passes."

He slurred his speech AND got it backwards!! Money well spent IMHO.

[boozehound]

Am I the only one who actually feels kind of bad for the guy? He obviously has a pretty serious problem that will likely lead to his dying at a fairly young age.

Perhaps him being away from UC for a while has dulled my hatred of Huggins. My first reaction was still to laugh, but then I actually felt kind of bad for the guy.

[xubrew]

Am I the only one who actually feels kind of bad for the guy? He obviously has a pretty serious problem that will likely lead to his dying at a fairly young age.

Perhaps him being away from UC for a while has dulled my hatred of Huggins. My first reaction was still to laugh, but then I actually felt kind of bad for the guy.

He was drunk at a coaches' clinic. Any NCAA clinic or convention involves getting drunk, especially when coaches are involved. Granted, they normally get drunk AFTER the sessions, but it isn't that surprising or alarming that a coach got drunk at a clinic. Similar to college. You get drunk, but it's a little silly to get bombed during class.

Truthfully, I think it's the kind of thing that should stay out of the news. I'm assuming that the clinic consisted of people who are either currently coaches, or that would like to be coaches. Those that tweeted it and blogged about it will probably be more frowned upon than Huggs. Granted, it was funny and I'm glad they did it, but what happens at the coaches clinic stays at the coaches clinic.

[Kahns Krazy]

From wiki:


He is one of only 4 active Division I coaches with 700 or more career victories. Huggins has been to 15 total NCAA tournaments, including 14 of the last 15 seasons. Huggins' teams have participated in the postseason 25 of 28 times, including two Final Fours: 1992 with Cincinnati, 2010 with West Virginia. Huggins has averaged 23.6 wins per season, including 25.6 his last 15 years.

He also has 7 years left on a deal that pays him $2+ million a year plus some nice perks.

No, I do not feel sorry for him.

Interestingly, his contract allows WVU to terminate for cause for "Substance abuse or habitual insobriety which affects his job performance." If I were him, I wouldn't be drinking at events like this. That could be a very expensive drink.

[stophorseabuse]

I go to these clinics every year. I NEVER attend night sessions, and neither do any dudes I associate with. The only way you get fairly compensated coaching school hoops is to go party on athletic department dime. I usually have 1 guy i really want to see, and that is how i pick each event (bob knight motion offense), (tom izzo practice routines)' etc. Seriously, who is trying to learn Bob Huggins m-m offense. The only thing Huggins draws for among decent coaches is pressure Defense. He is not valued very much at these clinics.

[xubrew]

From wiki:



He also has 7 years left on a deal that pays him $2+ million a year plus some nice perks.

No, I do not feel sorry for him.

Interestingly, his contract allows WVU to terminate for cause for "Substance abuse or habitual insobriety which affects his job performance." If I were him, I wouldn't be drinking at events like this. That could be a very expensive drink.

The WVU admin is more likely to high five him than they are to fire him. I don't think they would fire him for being drunk at a clinic or convention that WVU has no role in putting on. You could probably count on one hand the number of coaches who weren't drunk.

Now if he were to get drunk while on the road with his team, that's a completely different issue.

[RealDeal]

Now if he were to get drunk while on the road with his team, that's a completely different issue.

And considering he's a severe alcoholic, I'm sure that never happens.

[Just4now]

I enjoy seeing Huggs fall on his face on the court.

Nothing funny about this to me. The man is going to kill himself. Nothing funny about alcoholism. He is embarressing himself and his family.

I hope he gets help.

[Just4now]

I go to these clinics every year. I NEVER attend night sessions, and neither do any dudes I associate with. The only way you get fairly compensated coaching school hoops is to go party on athletic department dime. I usually have 1 guy i really want to see, and that is how i pick each event (bob knight motion offense), (tom izzo practice routines)' etc. Seriously, who is trying to learn Bob Huggins m-m offense. The only thing Huggins draws for among decent coaches is pressure Defense. He is not valued very much at these clinics.

Agreed. Huggins is very good recruiter and motivator. Offensive guru? Nope.

[Xman95]

After the decision to wear this, nothing should be shocking about Huggins:

http://onegreatseason.com/storage/huggins.jpg

[boozehound]

I would think so, yes.

BTW, I laughed at your message coming from a poster named boozehound.

Touche.


I enjoy seeing Huggs fall on his face on the court.

Nothing funny about this to me. The man is going to kill himself. Nothing funny about alcoholism. He is embarressing himself and his family.

I hope he gets help.

That's kind of what I mean. Regardless of what he is getting paid or him being an a-hole part of me feels bad for anyone with severe alcoholism. I had a friend whose Dad was a severe alcoholic. The guy would dust a handle of Johnnie Walker in about 3 days. He died in his early 50's from liver failure. It was hard to watch and a shitty way to go, and even though he was an incredible a-hole for most of his life I felt kind of sorry for him at the end.

[Masterofreality]

Agreed. Huggins is very good recruiter and motivator. Offensive guru? Nope.

From a coaching perspective, Thuggins' "Open Post Offense" was about the easiest to defend of anything. Any team that wasn't intimidated by his group of miscreants usually did pretty well against him.

Xavier had good success because XU guys played against Borecat guys during the summers and knew what they were about. Like Just4 said above, good recruiter- especially of non-students- and good negative motivator, but he's not the system you'd want to emulate.

You'd think he might have learned that having good smart kids would be to his advantage after he had Beilein's kids who had been well-schooled under JB, but now he's right back to his old way. Aaric Murray is a perfect guy for him- a guy who may have some talent, but has issues so BeelzeBob can yell at him- a lot.

[stophorseabuse]

From a coaching perspective, Thuggins' "Open Post Offense" was about the easiest to defend of anything. Any team that wasn't intimidated by his group of miscreants usually did pretty well against him.

Xavier had good success because XU guys played against Borecat guys during the summers and knew what they were about. Like Just4 said above, good recruiter- especially of non-students- and good negative motivator, but he's not the system you'd want to emulate.

You'd think he might have learned that having good smart kids would be to his advantage after he had Beilein's kids who had been well-schooled under JB, but now he's right back to his old way. Aaric Murray is a perfect guy for him- a guy who may have some talent, but has issues so BeelzeBob can yell at him- a lot.

This. Huggins teams thrived by killer 3 point shooting, easy transition hoops from pressure d (early days), or downright crushing you on the o glass. Movement is not a Huggins staple.

[stophorseabuse]

And for the record, I hate high ball screen driven offense too. So I'm not homering Huggins.

[wkrq59]

While Huggins may engender many laughs at his own expense, there is not one damned thing funny about alcoholism. Nothing.
I speak from personal experience having seen my father not live beyond 65, my father-in-law die at 60 and several other family members on the way to early graves because of it.
I have seen diabetics fail to control the disease because of the inability to give up booze. I have seen and know well one of the nicest guys (otherwise) in Al Unser Jr. have a promising career as a racer destroyed by alcoholism. I have seen marriages ruined by it. Families thoroughly messed up. And those are just the major effects of the disease, which is never cured, just arrested.
I have never liked Bob Huggins and my reasons are far more involved than just being a Xavier graduate and fan. He has no morals, and no respect for anything or anybody, even his wife. As the child of an alcoholic, I can only feel pity for the man and his family because I know it is highly he will ever change. :eek::o:confused:

[xubrew]

Huggins has been a div1 coach for almost thirty years. You don't do something like that for that long as well as he's done it without being able to maintain some sort of control over your life.

The guy was drunk at a coaches clinic. That's hardly unusual. Alcohol abuse is not necessarily the same thing as alcohol dependence. At just about any coaches convention or clinic for any sport, you'll see the vast majority of coaches there abusing alcohol. That doesn't necessarily mean they're alcoholics.

About a year ago, Tim Welsh fell asleep at a red light in his car with his head on the horn. He was asleep in his car with the horn blasting. I don't think too many people think of him as being an alcoholic. I don't think he is an alcoholic. I just think he's a guy that got extremely drunk and had a bad moment. Many people have had bad moments while drunk. That doesn't mean they're alcoholics.

If someone has gone eight years between bad moments, with the most recent moment not being THAT bad, I'm not ready to jump to the conclusion that they are a raging alcoholic. Drinking too much and doing stupid things doesn't necessarily mean that person has a physical dependence on alcohol, especially if they're at an event where just about everyone goes in knowing they will get drunk at some point.