I hate Notre Dame [Archive] - Xavier Message Board

fellahmuskie

03-11-2012, 10:29 PM

South Bend does suck. I grew up just 30 miles from there and the ND fans are even worse than the city, if that's possible. I don't know what possessed my parents to move from Springfield, OH to Goshen, IN when I was younger, but I sure don't miss the stupid obsession in northern Indiana with their crappy school now that I'm in Minnesota. Besides, what a bunch of pathetic underachievers in the Dance. I can't wait to knock them out early again.

UCGRAD4X

03-11-2012, 10:39 PM

The girlfriend went to Notre Dame. So she was crushed to see us matched with them. 99% of the time, im a duke and nd fan. This is the 1%

I have a similar issue and want to see both teams last beyond the first weekend.

Sorry ND - ain't gonna happen for the Irish.

Helen

03-12-2012, 12:42 PM

i don't think Noter dame is nice as Ft.Wayne but it ain't all bad.

X-ceptional

03-12-2012, 02:02 PM

My own personal interactions with Notre Dame are limited. On one hand, when I was in undergrad and visited a few friends who went there (visited for a football game--a hilarious 38-0 drubbing by USC in 2007), we were throwing a football around before the game and I found $20... pretty good.

On the other hand, I have now graduated and made the insane decision to continue my education, and it seems like nearly half our class is made up of "golden domers" (damn, that's annoying). The old joke, "how do you know if someone went to Notre Dame? ........ Don't worry, they'll tell you" is definitely rooted in reality, and trust me, it gets old quickly.

$20 can't buy my love... I HATE NOTRE DAME.

IT'S WINNING TIME

GoMuskies

03-12-2012, 02:07 PM

I hate ND football. ND basketball I mostly pity.

DC Muskie

03-12-2012, 02:27 PM

Do they have messageboards for basketball?

X-ceptional

03-12-2012, 02:30 PM

Do they have messageboards for basketball?

Rivals board (http://notredame.rivals.com/forum.asp?fid=335)

UHND... annoying format (http://www.uhnd.com/bb/forum/index.php?action=main&forumid=3)

Scout... have to register to read (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=109&f=2596)

Masterofreality

03-12-2012, 02:32 PM

I want Pablo to have a beer with Declan Sullivan. The two of them can cook up some tomfoolery and hijinks to lay on the firishmen.

My disdain for Not-re Dome is legendary. The haughty attitude that they carry around is unwarranted and disgusting. Not only that but their mascot is a Yellow Toothed Gnome look-alike with a scruffy beard and hooked nose. Hideous.

Oh and this: Jesuits > Holy Cross Priests

X-band '01

03-12-2012, 02:59 PM

The Pit at NDNation (http://www.ndnation.com/boards/index.php?thepit)

I remember this board the last time that Xavier faced off against Notre Dame about a decade ago.

Three Point Pete

03-12-2012, 03:00 PM

As far back as I can remember, I wanted to go to ND. All of the cronies around our Irish Catholic neighborhood and at St. Joseph's parish convinced me that it was the only place to go. I applied, and they said "Come on down" so I was all set and ready to attend.

My dad then, for the first time (and the last) spoke up on the matter. "Me boy, your sainted grandmother was a long time member of the Rosary and Altar Society at St. Xavier, and if you will honor her memory, go to Xavier."

My Dad was a wise and very well educated man, who graduated from UC and then UC Law School on the GI bill, long before it was subsumed into the dreaded State of Ohio university system.

And the rest is history....

XMuskieFTW

03-12-2012, 03:09 PM

Went to high school in Ann Arbor. Huge Michigan football fan, so this matchup just makes me drool. Can't wait to destroy ND!!

gladdenguy

03-12-2012, 03:24 PM

Went to high school in Ann Arbor. Huge Michigan football fan, so this matchup just makes me drool. Can't wait to destroy ND!!

God Bless You.

DC Muskie

03-12-2012, 04:29 PM

Huge Michigan football fan...makes me drool.

Drooling Michigan fan...sounds about right.

boozehound

03-12-2012, 05:07 PM

Went to high school in Ann Arbor. Huge Michigan football fan, so this matchup just makes me drool. Can't wait to destroy ND!!

You sir, are a great American.

I'm looking forward to my Muskies continuing the beating that my Wolverines started earlier this year.

LutherRackleyRulez

03-12-2012, 08:12 PM

Reasons I HATE nd:

#1. bray's game attire is God Awful...

makes thuggins scotchgard puke breakers look fashionable...
http://www.ultimatecoupons.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/mike-bray.jpg

#2. richard DICK digger phelps might be the biggest D-BAG

I have ever had the misfortune to meet....
http://media.independentmail.com/media/img/photos/2010/01/23/anderson-gameday-brian-web12_t607.JPG

XULucho27

03-12-2012, 08:30 PM

You sir, are a great American.

I'm looking forward to my Muskies continuing the beating that my Wolverines started earlier this year.

God Bless You.

Went to high school in Ann Arbor. Huge Michigan football fan, so this matchup just makes me drool. Can't wait to destroy ND!!

Peeps. Go Blue!

Back on topic, I'm in the market for a new mock turtleneck. I expect to have one by Friday night.

LadyMuskie

03-12-2012, 08:41 PM

I have LOATHED notre dame since grade school, when all the boys in my class talked about nothing but notre dame football in the fall and uc basketball in the winter. It was mind-numbing in so many ways. I HATE notre dame. I hate their mascot. I hate how their alumni think they're all geniuses and first in line for heaven. I hate notre dame!

When I worked, my joy from my grade school years continued because I had two bosses who were UC trustees and one who was neck deep in notre dame alumni crap. Losing to those leprechauns in '01 was abysmal for me when I returned to work after the game, but my boss didn't even care because basketball doesn't even register on the radar for most nd alumni. However, nothing pleased me more than getting to come in on a Monday morning knowing full well that notre dame had tanked again in football on Saturday and asking my boss "Did notre dame win this week? No? Oh. That's such a shame!" Bwahahahahahahaha! LOSERS!

GIMMFD

03-12-2012, 08:44 PM

We are going to win this game, we're going to be motivated, Dez is going to play well in front of his home crowd, Tu and Lyons are going to go off, and Frease is ready to hit some form! Notre Dame can't match up with us!! LET'S RIDE AND TRASH THE IRISH!!!!

Masterofreality

03-12-2012, 08:52 PM

Reasons I HATE nd:

#1. bray's game attire is God Awful...

#2. richard DICK digger phelps might be the biggest D-BAG

I have ever had the misfortune to meet....

Reps for this. Diggler Phlops is a charlatan of the worst form.

XULucho27

03-12-2012, 08:56 PM

#1. bray's game attire is God Awful...

It's better than his casual wear... trust me:

http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_ncaab_experts__19/ept_sports_ncaab_experts-262405327-1283525809.jpg?ymxCqtDD3JD38AYS

xudash

03-12-2012, 09:52 PM

I thought you guys would get a good laugh about this: The Jacksonville paper had their annual layout of team capsules for the tournament today, like most major papers do.

Xavier's best win: Vandy.

Xavier's worst loss: perennial NIT participant University of Dayton.

Too funny.

DC Muskie

03-12-2012, 10:18 PM

DC Muskie

03-12-2012, 10:21 PM

By the way, everyone seems to be picking us to beat ND. I'm not really happy with that.

STL_XUfan

03-12-2012, 10:27 PM

By the way, everyone seems to be picking us to beat ND. I'm not really happy with that.

Not everyone. Vegas is holding at ND a -2.5 favorite

paulxu

03-12-2012, 11:06 PM

halcyon.days.of.Carter

03-13-2012, 12:35 AM

I want Pablo to have a beer with Declan Sullivan. The two of them can cook up some tomfoolery and hijinks to lay on the firishmen.

My disdain for Not-re Dome is legendary.

I'm glad that your disdain for a school is so legendary that you've taken it upon yourself to speak for a twenty year old kid who lost his life in a tragic accident. To be honest, it is pretty cool that Mr. Sullivan's spirit has chosen you - of all people - to communicate his hostile feelings toward the school that Xavier happens to be meeting for a basketball contest this Friday (and a school that you have a childish distaste for). Classy.

In the interest of full disclosure: yes I do have connections to Notre Dame but Xavier will always and forever take priority in my heart. However, this has little to do with any allegiances and more about what is tasteful and decent. You, sir, are making light of a tragic accident that left an entire school community reeling and an entire group of people in mourning. This isn't about a team or an institution that you may or may not like; but real people with real emotions. It is about kids who lost a friend, a family who lost a member way too soon, and others who will be tortured by the incident for the rest of their lives.

It is a bit different when you look at it that way, isn't it?

Look man, I have no problem with your attempts to twist the words "Notre Dame," "Fighting," or "Irish" into some lame form of an insult. Hell, I don't even care that you dislike Notre Dame grads or the football program. That being said, know when to draw the line when it comes to subjects.

This is a place to discuss young men playing the game of college basketball for a university that stands for good. Our kids are doing their best to uphold the image of that school. I suggest you remember that you're also called to do the same.

Go X; beat ND.

markchal

03-13-2012, 02:05 AM

I am a die-hard Notre Dame football fan. My oldest sporting passion. I have no problem with the Sullivan reference. Any joke at the school's expense for that tragedy is fine in my book.

It's one thing when s player gets a DUI or players trade jerseys for tattoos or get in a fight. Most fans know the game and know the players are held to a different standard and we look the other way a lot when it comes to their indiscretions because we love the games so much.Very little of what they do off the field affects the program long-term.

But when a student manager's passion for being part of the program is manipulated and exploited to send him into a situation he was terrified of and that results in his death? There's not enough shame in the entire sports world for that. Sullivan probably loved Notre Dame far more than most of the players that go through there and that was taken advantage of and led to his death.

I love Notre Dame but that is a black mark that should never leave the program. As long as its st the school's expense, I'll never have a problem with people bringing that up.

Masterofreality

03-13-2012, 10:47 AM

I'm glad that your disdain for a school is so legendary that you've taken it upon yourself to speak for a twenty year old kid who lost his life in a tragic accident.

I have all the sympathy in the world for Declan Sullivan and his family. There is nothing worse than losing a child.

But when a child is lost because certain people who are charged to be protectors of those children have so much self absorption and so much hubris that they order that child to insert themselves into a very dangerous situation, and ultimately that child is lost, there is no sympathy. Notre Dame always likes to make itself out to be a "cut above". Well, they are not.

The "tragic accident" that you speak of was totally preventable. All that had to be done was that the ND people in charge acted like they cared for their charges. They did not. This "accident" responsibility is all on Brian Kelly and the atmosphere that has been created at ND.

I do not joke about Declan Sullivan, but pointing out the horrible foibles of Notre Dame is appropriate, especially when it involves a totally unnecessary death.

Chermy23

03-13-2012, 10:57 AM

I don't trust people that wear mock turtle necks with blazers. Mike Brey, Tommy Ammaker,..... any villian in a movie from the 80s.

Seriously, grow up and wear a tie.

xudash

03-13-2012, 01:45 PM

Dash, you need to put that on A10 board.

Paul, someone apparently beat me to it: http://www.basketballforum.com/atlantic-10-conference/466881-xavier-notre-dame-3.html#post6786493

CinciX12

03-14-2012, 10:23 AM

I missed everyone blindly hating Notre Dame for no reason. It's been a couple months since I listened to people to do it the football team so I forgot what it was like.

PMI

03-14-2012, 12:12 PM

I missed everyone blindly hating Notre Dame for no reason. It's been a couple months since I listened to people to do it the football team so I forgot what it was like.

Nothing blind about my hate for ND, but I there are enough long, tiring posts on the board this week so I'll spare everyone.

XULucho27

03-15-2012, 12:23 AM

http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/11/2012/01/638a182def2f3181725b7962cc417d5e.jpg

Born with congenital jaundice, Billy discovered his future calling in life when told of Notre Dame's school colors.

coasterville95

03-15-2012, 11:55 AM

And I feel like I am getting cheated out of being able to fully celebrate St Patricks Day. I mean how can I wear green on Friday? How can I put out flag that boldly states "IRISH".

It's all Notre Dames fault I am getting robbed of a holiday.

MADXSTER

03-15-2012, 12:18 PM

and i feel like i am getting cheated out of being able to fully celebrate st patricks day. I mean how can i wear green on friday? How can i put out flag that boldly states "irish".

It's all notre dames fault i am getting robbed of a holiday.

you don't!!

coasterville95

03-15-2012, 12:40 PM

I see what you did there. Clever.

Jesuit4Life

03-15-2012, 01:12 PM

St. Patrick's Day is still one day a year. You can wear your green on Saturday.

And for the record, I'm not a fan of universities that build their public image around a holiday.
I'm looking at you Syracuse.

bobbiemcgee

03-15-2012, 01:30 PM

Onions highlights:

http://www.blinkx.com/watch-video/xavier-defeats-west-virginia-in-overtime-79-75/pqROVjMb0CSUvIPSMNdGzg

paulxu

03-15-2012, 03:09 PM

OK, so I make the annual visit to the bookstore to see what's going on.

Good news? They actually had a Xavier jacket. Cutter-Buck heavy windbreaker type. Got it.
After the other stuff I needed to replenish my supplies, I see this green Xavier St. Patrick's day type tee shirt they are selling.
Can't even tell you what it said, but it was a lighter shade of green, white lettering, and had Xavier printed on it and a big white shamrock.

Said to another guy, what the hell is this? How could you wear this shirt knowing who we are playing tomorrow night. Course he had kids at X and ND, so he didn't even understand my question.

I'm very Irish, but I'm not wearing their logo this weekend for anything.

halcyon.days.of.Carter

03-15-2012, 04:36 PM

I have all the sympathy in the world for Declan Sullivan and his family. There is nothing worse than losing a child.

But when a child is lost because certain people who are charged to be protectors of those children have so much self absorption and so much hubris that they order that child to insert themselves into a very dangerous situation, and ultimately that child is lost, there is no sympathy. Notre Dame always likes to make itself out to be a "cut above". Well, they are not.

The "tragic accident" that you speak of was totally preventable. All that had to be done was that the ND people in charge acted like they cared for their charges. They did not. This "accident" responsibility is all on Brian Kelly and the atmosphere that has been created at ND.

I do not joke about Declan Sullivan, but pointing out the horrible foibles of Notre Dame is appropriate, especially when it involves a totally unnecessary death.

All that had to be done was that the people in charge had to act like they cared? Did you read the letter written to the entire Notre Dame community from Fr. Jenkins? Are you aware of the scholarship fund? I think it is obvious that the school cared. You can read it here: http://www.ndfootballhistory.com/JenkinsLetter.html

I also like that you know that Brian Kelly was personally responsible and that this accident is a result of his hubris and a culture that he has created at the school. Please explain to me your inside knowledge of this culture and how it contributed. In fact, I'm sure the Indiana Department of Labor and OSHA would love to hear that because their report missed that. You can read it here: http://www.in.gov/dol/files/Notre-Dame-safety-order.pdf

Clearly, lots of people made mistakes in this situation. I'm sure this is one that tears them up. Hubris, however, is assuming that you know exactly how something happened and how someone feels about it when there is evidence to the contrary.

LadyMuskie

03-15-2012, 05:38 PM

All that had to be done was that the people in charge had to act like they cared? Did you read the letter written to the entire Notre Dame community from Fr. Jenkins? Are you aware of the scholarship fund? I think it is obvious that the school cared. You can read it here: http://www.ndfootballhistory.com/JenkinsLetter.html

I also like that you know that Brian Kelly was personally responsible and that this accident is a result of his hubris and a culture that he has created at the school. Please explain to me your inside knowledge of this culture and how it contributed. In fact, I'm sure the Indiana Department of Labor and OSHA would love to hear that because their report missed that. You can read it here: http://www.in.gov/dol/files/Notre-Dame-safety-order.pdf

Clearly, lots of people made mistakes in this situation. I'm sure this is one that tears them up. Hubris, however, is assuming that you know exactly how something happened and how someone feels about it when there is evidence to the contrary.

You're obviously passionate about this topic, and that's fine, but you're bringing us all down. The intent of this thread is to hate on Notre Dame for valid and also completely made up, stupid reasons. You're getting all worked up over a few posts in what is basically a pep rally thread. This really isn't going to be the best place to change people's minds about Notre Dame or what happened to Sullivan, and anything that has been posted in here was not meant to be taken personally and was not meant to offend anyone's personal sensibilities. It was meant to be fun. Going forward, I wouldn't take the things posted in a thread like this so seriously.

Jesuit4Life

03-15-2012, 05:50 PM

I think Jonathan Swift was really on to something.

coasterville95

03-15-2012, 06:08 PM

March Madness brings out the best and worst in people

Example: I return from lunch to find my office door all decorated up for Notre Dame. That's just cruel.

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Pablo's Brother

03-15-2012, 07:33 PM

I am as Irish as you can get and a usual fan of ND. But, not this weekend. We are going to sweep the leg!

XU Fan in DC

03-15-2012, 09:45 PM

I am as Irish as you can get and a usual fan of ND. But, not this weekend. We are going to sweep the leg!

Same here, Pablo's Bro. I even defended on an ND chatboard the ND alum (Longo?) who poated on MM that he is a Muskie fan for this matchup. I am a diehard ND fb fan and always will be, but tomorrow, it's beat ND!!

xtremefan13

03-16-2012, 03:24 AM

haven't posted in a while my apologies

school has been kicking my ass and admittingly so I have been missing out on the world of X hoops

Regardless, 18+ hours from now is one of the most person games of my life.
Growing up an ND fan in an ND community with a famiy that attended, this game is going to be bragging rights for years to come

With that being said, my mom who is a Saint Mary's grad will be rooting against ND for the first time in her life in couple hours, guess she loves her son (and his sanity) hahah

Anyhow I am going to mass at 8 am to get some extra prayers in with the big man, hopefully we can get some good will power going forward this March!

Let's Zip 'Em Up

-Xfan13