Scoring points.

[Kahns Krazy]

In keeping with some of the stellar contributions to this board lately, I am starting a thread about scoring points. I like to see my name at the top of a thread, so I started this new thread to discuss my insight into point scoring. It's nothing new, but I'm either too lazy to find the other discussion about it, or I think my opinion is better anyway, so there's no reason to continue a conversation someone else started.

Some of you so-called basketball fans clearly aren't as keen of an observer of basketball as I am, so I'm here to tell you what this team needs to do.

Score points. Specifically, score more points than the other team. I don't understand why Mack isn't coaching this team to do that. Score points and prevent other teams from scoring points.

I performed a detailed analysis and gave it a crazy acronym. That's how you can tell I know more than you. I analyzed every national championship team according this this PSBGVOPSBG metric, and I found that every champion since the field expanded has had a positive PSBGVOPSBG ratio in the final 6 games of the season that they were champion of.

I get so mad when this team doesn't score more points than the other team. This should be a very high priority.

[LadyMuskie]

I'm not going to be able to support your theory unless you can provide me with statistics which support your position, some sort of insider knowledge from a high ranking individual within the program, or some wild and crazy reasoning that shows that this whole scoring more points thing goes back at least 3 decades.

[Snipe]

I like to think of it in terms of +/- analysis. If your team ends up in the + after 40 minutes, you win the game consistently.

The flaw I see in Khans analysis is that scoring more is less important than making sure your opponent scores less. Ask anyone and they will tell you that defense wins ballgames.

I have run some simulations and every time we hold opponents to less points than we score we win. I even had MOR check some old gametape of his 3rd grade girls team, so I am confident that this theory is applicable across a very broad spectrum.

This doesn't answer every hypothetical situation though, like what if they played a game on Uranus?

[paulxu]

I'd give anything to find the sound file of the Real Men of Genius that has an ex-pro football sports announcer guy who actually gives us gems likes Kahn's...you have to score more points to win THIS game.

[waggy]

You know how I know you're white?

[LadyMuskie]

I'd give anything to find the sound file of the Real Men of Genius that has an ex-pro football sports announcer guy who actually gives us gems likes Kahn's...you have to score more points to win THIS game.

I think most of them are on this website http://budlight.whipnet.com/

The hubby and I are partial to Mr. Pro Sports Heckler Guy because we used to sit next to a guy at Cintas who spouted lines like "you gotta score to win", "your hands are for catching the ball", "you stink worse than my socks" and so on. He was a veritable fountain of great basketball knowledge. I sometimes wonder if he posts on this board. When we upgraded our seats, I sort of came to miss him.

[paulxu]

I think most of them are on this website http://budlight.whipnet.com/

The hubby and I are partial to Mr. Pro Sports Heckler Guy because we used to sit next to a guy at Cintas who spouted lines like "you gotta score to win", "your hands are for catching the ball", "you stink worse than my socks" and so on. He was a veritable fountain of great basketball knowledge. I sometimes wonder if he posts on this board. When we upgraded our seats, I sort of came to miss him.

All of those (only about 5 have ever played in this market) and not the one I want, which does play in this market.

[LadyMuskie]

All of those (only about 5 have ever played in this market) and not the one I want, which does play in this market.

Bummer. Sorry. We've just used that one because of our good friend Mr. Pro Sports Heckler.

[DoubleD86]

This may be my favorite thread of all time. Public reps to all and private reps to the ones I can.

[XUglow]

Many things are overrated, but scoring is not one of them. I watched a game last night, and at the end of the game, the announcer said that the game wasn't as close as the score indicated. He was wrong. The game was exactly as close as the score indicated. The score was 70-60. The winning team won by 10, which is exactly what the score indicated. Stupid announcer.

[UCGRAD4X]

what if they played a game on Uranus?

Is no one going to try and tackle this issue...really?

[MADXSTER]

Playing on Uranus would be very odd.

Did you know that the North and South poles face the sun as the planet rotates.

Hopefully it is not a night game because some nights can last as many as 40 years.

The offseason would be horrible because it takes 30,685 Earth days to travel around the sun. But think of how much recruiting would go on.

Dunks would be awsome. The gravity is 91% of Earths. Even Kahns could dunk off of one foot. Okay that's a bit much.

Fun fact: It is the only planet whose name came from a figure in Greek mythology as opposed to Roman mythology.

[waggy]

Greek

And there you have it.

[DC Muskie]

The game was exactly as close as the score indicated. The score was 70-60. The winning team won by 10, which is exactly what the score indicated. Stupid announcer.

I have to say I disagree with this.

When a team is up by a certain amount, usually they should be up more. However, other factors may have prevented the score from being what it should be.

These factors include:

Fouls
Turnovers
Jet Lag
Food poisoning
Lack of a crowd
No beer sales allowed
Poor lighting
Fat chicks

So you can see, the score wasn't as close as it should have been, simply because of factors. The announcer is correct. He has studied this sport in school after mastering it in his local youth leagues decades back.

[Masterofreality]

I find it patently offensive that Snipe would refer to any grade of girls basketball and scoring in the same diatribe.

That being said, my long experience of sitting a ridiculous amount of hours in gyms has shown me that when Scoreboard Operator Guy presses the "+1", "+2" and "+3" buttons on the console for Team A more often as opposed to Team B, Team A will have a higher total than Team B 100% of the time. It is a direct causal relationship caused by voluntary muscle contractions as induced by fully responsive cognitive stimuli.

Everything else is ancillary to this activity. Simply create a way so that Scorebord Operator Guy will press your buttons more often that he presses the other guy's buttons, and you've solved the problem.

[GoMuskies]

That being said, my long experience of sitting a ridiculous amount of hours in gyms has shown me that when Scoreboard Operator Guy presses the "+1", "+2" and "+3" buttons on the console for Team A more often as opposed to Team B, Team A will have a higher total than Team B 100% of the time. It is a direct causal relationship caused by voluntary muscle contractions as induced by fully responsive cognitive stimuli.


Not sure I'd count on this method for games at Hinkle. Otherwise, I think you're on target.