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xubrew
02-09-2012, 03:29 PM
Oh my God!!! What a beautifully articulated and highly appropriate assault!!!

http://uconnbythenumbers.com/2012/02/pat-forde-is-an-unmitigated-douche/

Bravo!! Bravo!! I don't like UConn, but I completely agree on this take with this take, and feel that those like Forde who blindly support it and critique it are...well...unmitigated douches. I just don't have the ability to articulate it half as well and as bluntly as this guy does.

bigdiggins
02-09-2012, 04:04 PM
Can't say I agree with all of it. Don't punish the kids there now? Well then who is going to be punished? If you never punish the kids there now you will never be able to punish anyone for not following the NCAA rules. UCONN has cheated and gotten away with it before. Time to stop the madness. The kids don't like it, they can transfer.

xubrew
02-09-2012, 04:44 PM
Part of their proposal involves them giving up their revenue. I'd say that's punishing the institution, especially if you believe that all the major programs care about is money.

On top of that, UConn was punished for this already. They had to forfeit scholarships. The reason they're pissed is that the NCAA is retroactively holding them accountable after holding them accountable once already, and doing so at the expense of the current players who had nothing to do with it.

bigdiggins
02-09-2012, 04:50 PM
Forfeited scholarships, which they pulled from the 12th guy in the rotation and gave to a heralded recruit. That would be like making Griffin a walk-on so Dez could still come on a full-ride. Hard pressed to see that as a punishment.
As far as the revenue, you can rest assured it is less of a loss than would be seen by being suspended from the tourney.

xubrew
02-09-2012, 05:03 PM
Forfeited scholarships, which they pulled from the 12th guy in the rotation and gave to a heralded recruit. That would be like making Griffin a walk-on so Dez could still come on a full-ride. Hard pressed to see that as a punishment.
As far as the revenue, you can rest assured it is less of a loss than would be seen by being suspended from the tourney.

I wouldn't have THAT much of an issue with it, if it weren't being retroactively enforced rule. Even with that, most of UConn's APR problems revolved around retention and not poor academic standing as the article is implying. You said "if they don't like it, they can transfer." Well, in many cases, that hurts retention, which hurts the APR.

The thing is, their APR was deemed to be in the safe zone. It was their Graduation Rate that initially sent off the alarm. When you have NBA caliber players that leave early, and other players that don't play, but would play for 90% of the div1 teams out there, you're susceptable to players transferring and players leaving early. That lowers the grad rate even if players are in good academic standing while they're active members of the team. I don't think retroactively changing the guidelines and punishing the current players is at all the best way to remedy this.

X-band '01
02-09-2012, 05:30 PM
It just seems that forfeiting a scholarship or two simply isn't enough of a deterrent for UConn in this case - are there other steps they're taking to, I don't know, RAISE their APR or at least outline a plan for raising it?

It's basically boiling down to UConn trying to buy their way into the 2013 NCAA Tournament. Would they be barred from the NIT and other postseason tournaments as well?

boozehound
02-09-2012, 08:42 PM
I am a fan of coaches and schools being punished for recruiting nothing but one-and-done's. Personally I wish that the NBA would just go back to allowing kids to play right out of high school. Let's weed out at least some of the 'student athletes' who don't give a crap about the 'student' part.

See: Calipari, John

waggy
02-09-2012, 08:54 PM
They could drop a nuclear warhead on UConn and it wouldn't be enough.

They don't get any douchier than Calhoun.

waggy
02-09-2012, 08:56 PM
Oh, and UConn will not be in the ACC before Calhoun is gone.

whitesox
02-19-2012, 09:59 AM
Part of their proposal involves them giving up their revenue. I'd say that's punishing the institution, especially if you believe that all the major programs care about is money.


Giving up revenue has no effect on the basketball program unless they also promise to cut their basketball expenses -- and they won't.

It just means a bunch of other sports will get funding cut because UConn basketball can't meet NCAA requirements.

Pete Delkus
02-20-2012, 11:11 AM
Dude lost me when he went the “Objectifying women” card. Never read the author before but 100000/1 odds that if SI (or Yahoo.com) offered him a job he would accept the position faster than Khalid El-Amin takes down waffles.

I don’t feel sorry for college coaches, but walking through the gray area of college sports/ recruiting is a freakin’ field of dog crap and pot holes. Saying all this, Calhoun is dbag, and if coaching another college, I am pretty sure HuskyCarl (author) would agree.