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LutherRackleyRulez
11-29-2011, 08:50 AM
Per Awful Announcing.....





Your Full 2011 Week 14 College Football Announcing Schedule



Thursday, December 1:


8 PM- West Virginia at South Florida [ESPN/ ESPN3]- Rece Davis, Craig James, Jesse Palmer, Jenn Brown



Friday, December 2:


7 PM- MAC Championship: Ohio vs. Northern Illinois [ESPN2/ESPN3]- Joe Tessitore, Rod Gilmore, Jeannine Edwards


8 PM- Pac 12 Championship: UCLA at Oregon [FOX]- Gus Johnson, Charles Davis, Tim Brewster, Dhani Jones



Saturday, December 3:


12 PM- CUSA Championship: Southern Miss at Houston [ABC]- Mike Patrick, Craig James, Lisa Salters


12 PM- UConn at Cincinnati [ESPN/ESPN3]- Dave Pasch, Chris Spielman, Quint Kessenich


12 PM- Syracuse at Pitt [ESPN2/ESPN3]- Dave Lamont, Mike Bellotti


12:30- Iowa State at Kansas State [FSN]- Joel Meyers, Brian Baldinger, Jim Knox


1 PM- Old Dominion at Georgia Southern [ESPN3]- Doug Bell, John Bunting


2 PM- Maine at Appalachian State [ESPN3]- John Sadak, Rene Ingoglia


2 PM- Central Arkansas at Montana [ESPN3]- Ryan Rose,Adam Archuletta


2 PM- Wyoming at Colorado State [mtn.]- Todd Harris, Todd Christensen, Roger Bailey


2:30- UNLV at TCU [VERSUS]- Paul Bermeister, Shaun King, Anthony Herron


3 PM- Troy at Arkansas State [Sun Belt Network/ ESPN3]- Joe Davis, Cole Cubelic, Erin Cofiell


3 PM- New Hampshire at Montana State [ESPN3]- Trey Bender, Jay Taylor


3 PM- Stony Brook at Sam Houston State [ESPN3]- Dan Gutowsky, Warrick Dunn


3:30- Texas at Baylor [ABC]- Sean McDonough, Matt Millen, Samantha Steele


3:30- Utah State at New Mexico State [Aggie Vision/ KCSG/ ESPN3]- Glen Cerny, Danny Knee [Aggie Vision/ESPN3]; Mychal Clanton, Kevin White, Brooks Hansen [KCSG]


3:30- Lehigh at Towson [ESPN3]- Bob Picozzi, John Gregory


4 PM- SEC Championship: LSU vs. Georgia [CBS]- Verne Lundquist, Gary Danielson, Tracy Wolfson


4 PM- Idaho at Nevada [WAC Sports Network/ESPN3]- Barry Tompkins, Joe Glenn


4 PM- James Madison at North Dakota State [ESPN3]- Jim Barbar, Jay Walker


5 PM- Wofford at Northern Iowa [ESPN3]- Shawn Kenney & Rob Harley


6 PM- New Mexico at Boise State [mtn.]- Ari Wolfe, Blaine Fowler, Darius Walker


7:30- BYU at Hawaii [ESPN2/ ESPN3]- Carter Blackburn, Brock Huard


8 PM- Big Ten Championship: Wisconsin vs. Michigan State [FOX]- Gus Johnson, Charles Davis, Tim Brewster, Dhani Jones


8 PM- Oklahoma at Oklahoma State [ABC]- Brad Nessler, Todd Blackledge, Holly Rowe


8 PM- ACC Championship: Virginia Tech vs. Clemson [ESPN/ ESPN3]- Brent Musburger, Kirk Herbstreit, Heather Cox


8 PM- Fresno State at San Diego State [CBSSN]- James Bates, Aaron Taylor, Brooke Collins








http://www.awfulannouncing.com/pammies/announcing-schedules/week-14-college-football-announcing-schedule-2011.html

GoMuskies
11-29-2011, 08:52 AM
Let's go UConn!!!

XUglow
11-29-2011, 08:53 AM
Has there ever been a worse conference championship game than UCLA at Oregon? I am thinking, but I can't come up with one.

X-band '01
11-29-2011, 09:58 AM
Has anyone got AggieVision for the scintillating New Mexico game?

But to answer Glow's question, I'll say a resounding no. Neuheisel was FIRED earlier this week but he'll be allowed to coach the Pac 12 title game and bowl game. What do they do if they somehow beat Oregon?

LutherRackleyRulez
11-29-2011, 11:10 AM
Has there ever been a worse conference championship game than UCLA at Oregon? I am thinking, but I can't come up with one.

Glow,

Current betting line: Oregon -31.5


http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/las-vegas/

XUglow
11-29-2011, 11:49 AM
Glow,

Current betting line: Oregon -31.5


http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/las-vegas/





Oregon will cover the 31.5. I have watched UCLA play several times this year, and those guys will just quit from time to time. During one game we were watching, the question even popped up if it looked like UCLA was throwing the game.

Fred Garvin 2.0
11-29-2011, 04:16 PM
Go Spartans! It says here Dantonio should accept the promotion and return as OSU's defensive coordinator. Also, Brady Hoke will only refer to Ohio State as "Ohio."
Gay.

XUglow
11-30-2011, 10:45 AM
Go Spartans! It says here Dantonio should accept the promotion and return as OSU's defensive coordinator. Also, Brady Hoke will only refer to Ohio State as "Ohio."
Gay.

What do other Ohio fans think about that?

xu95
11-30-2011, 11:58 AM
What do other Ohio fans think about that?

If I ran a clean program like the Bobcats do, I would be pissed off by that.

xu95

XUglow
11-30-2011, 01:34 PM
If I ran a clean program like the Bobcats do, I would be pissed off by that.

xu95

It reminded me of a Skip Carey comment.

Skip: "It's a cool evening here in L.A. so the balls are dying in the outfield."
Ernie Johnson: "You know, Skip, people from Los Angeles don't like the city being called 'L.A.'... just like people from San Francisco don't like the city being called 'Frisco'."
Skip: "I know. I was in Frisco the other day, and a guy from L.A. told me that."

gladdenguy
11-30-2011, 02:02 PM
Let's go UConn!!!

I second and third this.
If West Virginia wins tomorrow night is UC eliminated because of WVU's BCS standing?

Would you have ever thought Louisville could win even the Big Least this year? Come on now Go?

Congratulations to Brady Hoke as he wins Big 10 Coach of the Year. Houston in the Sugar????

GoMuskies
11-30-2011, 02:19 PM
Would you have ever thought Louisville could win even the Big Least this year?

I thought Louisville might go winless in the Big East after the Marshall loss.

Louisville will actually be very good next year. Not fake "we only win because the Big East blows" good.

I still think Louisville would have a shot against anyone in the ACC (and would get killed by anyone else in the BCS picture...well, unless UCLA beats Oregon).

GoMuskies
12-01-2011, 10:01 AM
This week is it for coaching legend Howard Schnellenberger. Great interview with Howard here:

http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/12/01/120111-sports-cfb-schnellenberger-qna-1-6/

This, of course, is my favorite quote from the article:

"And I found out that God makes better choices for me than I do …

He led me to Louisville. It was a great decision because I had a major impact on football in the state of Kentucky. I was able to revive that Louisville program, I was able to win two major bowl games that they had never won before. When we beat Alabama, 34-7, in the [1991] Fiesta Bowl, Louisville swelled like a gigantic beach ball. It was ego swell … Louisville has now taken its place as a good football program. I coined a phrase up there: ‘It’s on a collision course with the national championship, the only variable is time.’ People still shout it up there. "

But this quote talking about the Orange Bowl game against Nebraska that netted him a national title is pretty damned funny:

"We had to come up with some good plays at the end there to win it, but we did force them to resort to the f——-ing fumblerooski. I told them before the game if those bastards have to run the fumblerooski, come to the sidelines and party because they have given up their right of manhood. "

Howard's one of a kind.

gladdenguy
12-01-2011, 10:30 AM
GO,
Is UC eliminated if West Virginia wins tonight?

GoMuskies
12-01-2011, 10:32 AM
Practically speaking, yes. UC could still conceivably move ahead of WV in the BCS rankings, which is what would be used to settle a 3 way tie between Louisville, UC and WV, but that is highly, highly unlikely.

xu95
12-01-2011, 11:16 AM
Asking who is going to win the BE is like asking who is going to win the Special Olympics.

xu95

GoMuskies
12-01-2011, 10:42 PM
USF lost something like 5 games on the last play of the game this year. That's rather insane.

And UC's Big East title hopes come crashing down! Hopefully they're bummed about it and play like shit on Saturday.

gladdenguy
12-02-2011, 12:02 AM
Asking who is going to win the BE is like asking who is going to win the Special Olympics.

xu95
I think the entire country would rather watch the special olympics then having to watch LSU have to play a team that didnt even win their own conference for a national title game that features no offense.

xu95
12-02-2011, 07:31 AM
I think the entire country would rather watch the special olympics then having to watch LSU have to play a team that didnt even win their own conference for a national title game that features no offense.

Bitter much?

Are you going to make a shirt that says #1 in the Country, #2 in the SEC West?

xu95

boozehound
12-02-2011, 07:34 AM
Here we go again...

chico
12-02-2011, 07:40 AM
I think the entire country would rather watch the special olympics then having to watch LSU have to play a team that didnt even win their own conference for a national title game that features no offense.

Ain't gonna be no rematch.

Don't want one.

http://i2.listal.com/image/972744/450full.jpg

How did that one work out?

gladdenguy
12-02-2011, 10:19 AM
Bitter much?

Are you going to make a shirt that says #1 in the Country, #2 in the SEC West?

xu95

I will leave that to the hillbillies.

Maybe the guy who poisoned the trees can try to raise some money for his insanity.

It will be one of, if not, the worst television rated National Championships. In fact, everything from here on out is just silliness.

In 2006, all they said was there was no way there would be a rematch. Now, we are destined for a rematch? Doesn't make any sense. The BCS is a joke. Alabama had their opportunity (AT FRICKIN HOME) and they lost. They don't win their own conference and they can play for a National Title without having to play their own championship game. Makes perfect sense.

If the "rematch" does happen I will love to see the BCS blasted.

XUglow
12-02-2011, 10:47 AM
I get it now. GG is still pissed from 2006 because Michigan didn't get a shot at the NC. Both teams wouldn't have been rolled in their bowl games if only they had gotten the rematch. He's not against a rematch... just this rematch.

Personally, I am against a rematch, but VT or OSU will need to show up this weekend to make a case that they should be in the game.

chico
12-02-2011, 11:01 AM
OSU is really the only team that has a valid claim to playing LSU - if, of course, the beat OU. Va. Tech is just not that impressive this year, having played nobody out of conference and with the ACC nowhere near as competitive as the Big 12.

I think OSU needs to win big, though. A 7 or even 14 point win won't do it.

Just because Bama lost to the one team that hasn't lost to anyone shouldn't automatically cast them out of the national title game. You can say that since they didn't take care of business that they shouldn't be allowed a second chance, but you can also make the argument that every other 1-loss team had the same chance and loss to a lesser opponent.

I think they need a playoff system, anyway, but that's a discussion for another day.

XUglow
12-02-2011, 11:18 AM
I think they need a playoff system, anyway, but that's a discussion for another day.

The main reason to want a rematch is because it should hasten a play-off system being established... even if it is only a Plus-1.

gladdenguy
12-02-2011, 11:23 AM
I get it now. GG is still pissed from 2006 because Michigan didn't get a shot at the NC. Both teams wouldn't have been rolled in their bowl games if only they had gotten the rematch. He's not against a rematch... just this rematch.

Personally, I am against a rematch, but VT or OSU will need to show up this weekend to make a case that they should be in the game.

Well, do you remember, everybody was totally against the idea of a rematch. I'm not making that up. So, Michigan had their shot that year, and they lost to Ohio on a fortunate late hit call.

Ohio then went on to shat the bed that year like they do every year when they play on the big stage (of course in 02 they received the hour late flag to gift wrap a National Title. You can't tell me Florida was that much better than Ohio St. And yes, I have a hard time believing Florida would have beaten Michigan that year.
Hell, we showed ole Urb when we beat his A$$ the next year on New Years Day.

waggy
12-02-2011, 11:29 AM
I don't see how a playoff solves the "problem" that the 2 best teams in college football this season are LSU and Bama.

XUglow
12-02-2011, 01:21 PM
1)You can't tell me Florida was that much better than Ohio St.
2)And yes, I have a hard time believing Florida would have beaten Michigan that year.
3)Hell, we showed ole Urb when we beat his A$$ the next year on New Years Day.


1) Ohio State couldn't stop UF. OSU got about 100 yds total on offense. After the opening kick-off, it was a 41-7 game. Sounds like UF was way better than OSU.
2) UM didn't even win their bowl game that year.
3) irrelevant. UM lost 52-14 against Miss St last year. That game wouldn't predict how things would play out this year. Wow. 52-14... Oops, sorry. Didn't mean to put 52-14 down twice.

xubrew
12-02-2011, 02:06 PM
I look at it the way I think the basketball selection committee would if they were picking the top two #1 seeds. My opinion is that if Oklahoma State beats Oklahoma, they'll be more accomplished than Alabama.

Keep in mind, ALL of this is dependent on them beating Oklahoma.

-They will have played a tougher schedule (10th v 38th,

-They'll have more big wins (5 against the BCS top 30, as opposed to just two for Alabama. In fact Bama only had two wins against teams with winning records.

-Okie State will have been the first place finisher in the highest rated conference. The Big Twelve lost just three total OOC games, and one of them was Texas A&M's loss to Arkansas. That's a middle of the pack B12 team barely losing to one of the top SEC teams.

-Okie State will be ahead of Alabama in every single computer.

If Oklahoma State beats Oklahoma, without question they're the more accomplished team on paper. Not even close.

Having said that, I don't think they'd beat Bama if the two were to play each other. I don't even think they'll beat Oklahoma. Even if they do beat Oklahoma, I still don't think they're is good as Alabama. So, that's my dilemma. Should it be the team that is clearly more accomplished, or should it be the team that most people assume to be better??

A playoff fixes that dilemma...and many other dilemmas as well.

I'm not necessarily opposed to a rematch. The rules say it's the two best teams. Not the two best conference champions. Not the two best teams that haven't played each other. Just the two best teams. Alabama shouldn't be left out of the game because they already played LSU. That's a very weak argument. If Alabama is left out, it should be because another team legitimately deserved it more. People who are arguing against a rematch simply because it's a rematch, in my opinion, have no argument. The rules say the two best teams. Make an argument that Bama isn't one of the two best teams, and then I'll listen.

ThrowDownDBrown
12-02-2011, 02:54 PM
Well, do you remember, everybody was totally against the idea of a rematch. I'm not making that up. So, Michigan had their shot that year, and they lost to Ohio on a fortunate late hit call.

Ohio then went on to shat the bed that year like they do every year when they play on the big stage (of course in 02 they received the hour late flag to gift wrap a National Title. You can't tell me Florida was that much better than Ohio St. And yes, I have a hard time believing Florida would have beaten Michigan that year.
Hell, we showed ole Urb when we beat his A$$ the next year on New Years Day.

A fortunate call? Maybe your coaches should have told Shaun Crable it's against the rules to torpedo himself head first into the opposing qb's face. Michigan was only in that game because of two unforced bad snap turnovers by OSU's center who was playing with a broken wrist. You scored a meaningless late td to make the final look closer then the two score lead OSU had basically the entire game. Then of course you guys went and "shat the bed" against USC. O and OSU had a 5-3 BCS record under Tress while Michigan has stellar 1-3 record on the BCS "big stage." So congrats man just a horrible post all around where you don't make one correct claim.

xubrew
12-02-2011, 02:57 PM
had their been a playoff in 2006, Michigan and Ohio State would have likely been the top two seeds, whereas Florida and USC would have advanced to the final.

Fred Garvin 2.0
12-02-2011, 03:28 PM
Well, do you remember, everybody was totally against the idea of a rematch. I'm not making that up. So, Michigan had their shot that year, and they lost to Ohio on a fortunate late hit call.

Ohio then went on to shat the bed that year like they do every year when they play on the big stage (of course in 02 they received the hour late flag to gift wrap a National Title. You can't tell me Florida was that much better than Ohio St. And yes, I have a hard time believing Florida would have beaten Michigan that year.
Hell, we showed ole Urb when we beat his A$$ the next year on New Years Day.

So sick of hearing that late flag b.s. Go back and watch the tape. We got screwed on an out of bounds call when we would have a first down and within Nugent zone in regulation.

Fred Garvin 2.0
12-02-2011, 03:42 PM
Well, do you remember, everybody was totally against the idea of a rematch. I'm not making that up. So, Michigan had their shot that year, and they lost to Ohio on a fortunate late hit call.

Ohio then went on to shat the bed that year like they do every year when they play on the big stage (of course in 02 they received the hour late flag to gift wrap a National Title. You can't tell me Florida was that much better than Ohio St. And yes, I have a hard time believing Florida would have beaten Michigan that year.
Hell, we showed ole Urb when we beat his A$$ the next year on New Years Day.

But what about the year we're talking about? How'd you do against USC?

Fred Garvin 2.0
12-02-2011, 03:44 PM
I guess Mike Hart can watch "little brother" play for a Big 10 Championship Saturday.

Fred Garvin 2.0
12-02-2011, 03:51 PM
Yes, Brady Hoke is the Second Coming. This is what you tell yourself when neither Miles nor Habaugh wanted anything to do with the ol alma mater.

xubrew
12-02-2011, 04:15 PM
I'm so glad Michigan and Ohio State fans have each other. They really do deserve each other.

XULucho27
12-02-2011, 04:19 PM
I'm so glad Michigan and Ohio State fans have each other. They really do deserve each other.

[FONT="Sarcasm"] Pft. Don't lump us in with that bunch from ohio. :D

GoMuskies
12-03-2011, 12:36 PM
I guess I need to cancel my hotel reservations for South Beach.

xubrew
12-03-2011, 02:07 PM
I guess I need to cancel my hotel reservations for South Beach.

I think the game the Orange Bowl most wanted was West Virginia v Virginia Tech. Two rivals that decided not to play each other anymore.

I think the game they least wanted was anyone else other than West Virginia playing against....well, at that point it didn't matter.

I hate the bowls and I hate the BCS, and I'm never happy to see it get what it wants. Here's to hoping UConn has a late run in them.

At the same time, it looks as though Houstion is out as well. :(

GoMuskies
12-03-2011, 03:00 PM
UC tried to blow the 25 point lead. Oh, well.

xubrew
12-03-2011, 09:23 PM
I now think it should be Oklahoma State.

They're better on paper by far. Off paper, it's at least debatable.

gladdenguy
12-03-2011, 09:59 PM
Well thank the frickin college football gods.

No doubt Okie St should be playing LSU in the national championship.

That is solidified tonight.

Sorry 95......your team will play in another bowl.

gladdenguy
12-03-2011, 10:02 PM
I guess Mike Hart can watch "little brother" play for a Big 10 Championship Saturday.

So will O-LIE-O. That was too easy.

GoMuskies
12-03-2011, 10:26 PM
Clempson/WV in the Orange Bowl. Can you feel the excitement?

At least those two have fans that travel pretty well.

gladdenguy
12-03-2011, 10:53 PM
Hahahahahahaha michigan st......that was awesome

X-band '01
12-04-2011, 06:36 AM
I now think it should be Oklahoma State.

They're better on paper by far. Off paper, it's at least debatable.

Yeah, but will the SEC/ESPN shills allow it?

xubrew
12-04-2011, 12:38 PM
Yeah, but will the SEC/ESPN shills allow it?

After seeing the coaches' poll, apparently not. Okie State will likely be ahead of Bama in every single computer, but that's only 1/3rd of the BCS. The voters will favor Bama, and that's who will get in. Okie State closed the gap in the coaches' poll a little bit, but not enough.

xubrew
12-04-2011, 12:40 PM
Clempson/WV in the Orange Bowl. Can you feel the excitement?

At least those two have fans that travel pretty well.

Yeah, thanks to Clemson, the WVU v VA Tech series will not be renewed after all.

Another crappy bowl game. What else is new??

X-band '01
12-04-2011, 03:43 PM
Somewhere out in Oklahoma, I would have to imagine that T. Boone Pickens will have Congress on speed dial. We're about to see just how much money and pull he has should Oklahoma State inevitably get screwed out of a national title shot.

Then again, if the regular season is king for football, I guess the season will effectively be over after the Army-Navy game on Saturday.

Porkopolis
12-04-2011, 05:34 PM
Another crappy bowl game. What else is new??

Could be worse. My Thundering Herd is going to St. Pete to play FIU. Feel the excitement, baby! :p

gladdenguy
12-04-2011, 08:25 PM
if i were les miles i would have asked if they lose do they get a rematch?

okie st beat better teams and lost on the road in double ot the evening of a terrible tragedy.

Go LSU....need les miles to win this game

GoMuskies
12-04-2011, 08:33 PM
College football is too stupid for words. VaTech in BCS game? Unreal. They're horrible.

If college basketball had a BCS, Xavier would play in the Beef O'Brady's Bowl every year. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

GoMuskies
12-04-2011, 08:36 PM
Could be worse. My Thundering Herd is going to St. Pete to play FIU. Feel the excitement, baby! :p

The "We Both Beat Louisville" Bowl. Defending champ? Louisville!

gladdenguy
12-04-2011, 08:45 PM
College football is too stupid for words. VaTech in BCS game? Unreal. They're horrible.

If college basketball had a BCS, Xavier would play in the Beef O'Brady's Bowl every year. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

yeah the day after they get blown out va tech gets a bid.....i hope we beat em.....they are favored by 3.5.
i thought for sure it was gonna be kansas st

GoMuskies
12-04-2011, 08:48 PM
If college football was anything but completely corrupt, Boise State would be playing in New Orleans. They're at least ten points better than VaTech.

Porkopolis
12-05-2011, 02:56 PM
If college football was anything but completely corrupt, Boise State would be playing in New Orleans. They're at least ten points better than VaTech.

It blows my mind that one loss to the #18 team in the country sent Boise to Las Vegas. I guess it shouldn't, though, because we've all seen this story before.

JimmyTwoTimes37
12-05-2011, 03:04 PM
Love how the official BCS twitter name is "EveryGameCounts"

Also, look at some of these Harris Poll Votes:

Derrick Mayes has Auburn (18) and Georgia unranked. Georgia has three more wins and beat the Tigers 45-7

Six Harris Poll voters had Boise State 10th or worse

Georgia varies from 7 to unranked on Harris polls

Clemson swept Va. Tech, but 50 Harris Poll voters had VT above Clemson. Eric Mizell had VT 7th, Clemson 19th

Big Ten champion Wisconsin voted 17th by 1 Harris Bowl voter

3 Harris Poll voters had Okla State 6th, 1 voted Alabama 4th

XUglow
12-07-2011, 10:16 AM
Love how the official BCS twitter name is "EveryGameCounts"

Also, look at some of these Harris Poll Votes:

Derrick Mayes has Auburn (18) and Georgia unranked. Georgia has three more wins and beat the Tigers 45-7

Six Harris Poll voters had Boise State 10th or worse

Georgia varies from 7 to unranked on Harris polls

Clemson swept Va. Tech, but 50 Harris Poll voters had VT above Clemson. Eric Mizell had VT 7th, Clemson 19th

Big Ten champion Wisconsin voted 17th by 1 Harris Bowl voter

3 Harris Poll voters had Okla State 6th, 1 voted Alabama 4th

Great work here. Every voter should go in front of a review board at the end of the year where the board decides if they are smart enough to keep a vote.

I played QB in high school. My center wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. Dude flunked out of community college. He went to work for the local paper as a sports photographer. He started writing small stories on some of the games he was shooting. Now, he is a "journalist", and he has an AP and Heisman vote, and he is still stupid.

I could say, "I am going to watch Xavier play Marquette," and he would tell people that he thinks I am going to New York to watch our Savior play the market.

xu95
01-10-2012, 07:58 AM
Well thank the frickin college football gods.

No doubt Okie St should be playing LSU in the national championship.

That is solidified tonight.

Sorry 95......your team will play in another bowl.

I'm still trying to figure out how Alabama didn't belong in that game last night. 14 National Championships.

Roll Freakin' Tide.

xu95

XULucho27
01-10-2012, 10:49 AM
I'm still trying to figure out how Alabama didn't belong in that game last night. 14 National Championships.

Roll Freakin' Tide.

xu95

See for me it's not a question about whether they were good enough or not. I think it's clear that Alabama had a beast of a team this year as well. However, they had their shot to beat LSU and they blew it.

/begin Michigan rant

When OSU and Michigan played as 1 v. 2 Michigan lost by 3 points on the road to the #1 team in the country. All of the SEC cried bloody murder at the possibility of a rematch. As badly as I wanted the rematch, I didn't complain when we got shipped to the Rose Bowl. Michigan had their shot and they blew it. Now, of course, I understand bias and that they would naturally want a team from their conference in the National Championship game. I also know that OSU got destroyed in that game by a much better Florida side. But, we would have never known that Florida was that good or that OSU wasn't that great if a rematch had occurred. I remember sportscasters railing against the possibility of a rematch.

Now this year, we have the rematch and none of that outrage persists. I don't see the talking heads on ESPN declaring how 'Bama had their shot and they shouldn't be able to replay the game. The message has clearly been sent; the regular season matters, unless you're from the SEC. OK State had a better strength of schedule, played more highly ranked teams, and lost in double OT under tragic circumstances. If the regular season truly matters then they absolutely should had their shot at LSU. But now we won't know if they would have blown the doors off of LSU (a la OSU-Florida) or whether LSU would have beaten them.

/end Michigan rant

To clarify, I'm not saying 'Bama isn't a good team or deserving of a title shot; they proved otherwise by winning last night. But we'll never know if any of those other teams could have beaten LSU. A simple playoff would at least partly rectify the situation.

Congrats on your team's win 95! Looking forward to kicking your asses down in Jerryworld in September! :D

gladdenguy
01-10-2012, 11:03 AM
I'm still trying to figure out how Alabama didn't belong in that game last night. 14 National Championships.

Roll Freakin' Tide.

xu95

Congratulations.
Best National Championship game I've ever seen.

GoMuskies
01-10-2012, 11:06 AM
Best National Championship game I've ever seen.

So you've only watched one?

xu95
01-10-2012, 11:10 AM
Congratulations.
Best National Championship game I've ever seen.

Thank you. You and I should both enjoy Alabama's next game.

xu95
01-10-2012, 11:26 AM
See for me it's not a question about whether they were good enough or not. I think it's clear that Alabama had a beast of a team this year as well. However, they had their shot to beat LSU and they blew it.

/begin Michigan rant

When OSU and Michigan played as 1 v. 2 Michigan lost by 3 points on the road to the #1 team in the country. All of the SEC cried bloody murder at the possibility of a rematch. As badly as I wanted the rematch, I didn't complain when we got shipped to the Rose Bowl. Michigan had their shot and they blew it. Now, of course, I understand bias and that they would naturally want a team from their conference in the National Championship game. I also know that OSU got destroyed in that game by a much better Florida side. But, we would have never known that Florida was that good or that OSU wasn't that great if a rematch had occurred. I remember sportscasters railing against the possibility of a rematch.

Now this year, we have the rematch and none of that outrage persists. I don't see the talking heads on ESPN declaring how 'Bama had their shot and they shouldn't be able to replay the game. The message has clearly been sent; the regular season matters, unless you're from the SEC. OK State had a better strength of schedule, played more highly ranked teams, and lost in double OT under tragic circumstances. If the regular season truly matters then they absolutely should had their shot at LSU. But now we won't know if they would have blown the doors off of LSU (a la OSU-Florida) or whether LSU would have beaten them.

/end Michigan rant

To clarify, I'm not saying 'Bama isn't a good team or deserving of a title shot; they proved otherwise by winning last night. But we'll never know if any of those other teams could have beaten LSU. A simple playoff would at least partly rectify the situation.

Congrats on your team's win 95! Looking forward to kicking your asses down in Jerryworld in September! :D

Ignoring the Michigan rant, I completely agree that there should be a playoff. I was listening to Mike and Mike this morning and they were saying they firmly believe there will be a 4 team playoff when the BCS is redone in 2013.

gladdenguy
01-10-2012, 12:29 PM
So you've only watched one?

hahahahahahahaha

95, my plane tickets and hotel room booked for Arlington.

I think we lose by 3 touchdowns or more, but I will get to see Cowboys Stadium.

XUglow
01-10-2012, 03:56 PM
A simple playoff would at least partly rectify the situation.

So this guy named Mike Slive proposed a Plus-1 playoff in 2008. 2 BCS bowls would pit 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3. Then the championship game would be between the winner of those 2 games. The ACC thought it was a good idea and joined him in supporting it. The Big Ten and Pac-10 were soundly against it. That boggled my mind because USC was the team that kept ending up just barely out of the title game. Well, the Big 12, ND, and the Big East ended up going against the Plus-1, which made the vote 2 for and 5 against, so we don't have a playoff. The proposal comes up every year. Every year, the same conferences say no.

Irony is so ironic. The teams that are clamoring for a play-off today all seem to come from conferences that are the reason that we don't have one. Go figure.

I want a play-off. Let's hope the gang of 5 sees the light this time.

XULucho27
01-10-2012, 04:04 PM
So this guy named Mike Slive proposed a Plus-1 playoff in 2008. 2 BCS bowls would pit 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3. Then the championship game would be between the winner of those 2 games. The ACC thought it was a good idea and joined him in supporting it. The Big Ten and Pac-10 were soundly against it. That boggled my mind because USC was the team that kept ending up just barely out of the title game. Well, the Big 12, ND, and the Big East ended up going against the Plus-1, which made the vote 2 for and 5 against, so we don't have a playoff. The proposal comes up every year. Every year, the same conferences say no.

Irony is so ironic. The teams that are clamoring for a play-off today all seem to come from conferences that are the reason that we don't have one. Go figure.

I want a play-off. Let's hope the gang of 5 sees the light this time.

I really have no clue why Jim Delany so staunchly opposes a playoff system. If anything, you'd think the whole non-rematch in 2006 would have made the Big Ten the champion for a playoff, yet they remain one of the strongest opponents of the proposed system; some bullshit about not "devaluing the regular season."

I'm with you, man. I hope we get a playoff. I also hate the, "it interferes with finals" excuse. Division I-AA (FCS, or whatever the hell they want to call it) sure doesn't seem to be affected by their playoff.

GoMuskies
01-10-2012, 04:04 PM
Why wouldn't the Big East be for it? They'd have a solid shot at getting a team up to #4 some years (Cincinnati a few years ago, for example), but they're going to struggle a lot harder to get a team up to #2 (Louisville in '06 and WV in '07 are the only two I can recall that had real shots late in the season, and both blew it).

XUglow
01-11-2012, 11:24 AM
I really have no clue why Jim Delany so staunchly opposes a playoff system. If anything, you'd think the whole non-rematch in 2006 would have made the Big Ten the champion for a playoff, yet they remain one of the strongest opponents of the proposed system; some bullshit about not "devaluing the regular season."

I'm with you, man. I hope we get a playoff. I also hate the, "it interferes with finals" excuse. Division I-AA (FCS, or whatever the hell they want to call it) sure doesn't seem to be affected by their playoff.

The Big Ten and Pac 12 have this "Rose Bowl thing" going on. No other conference is tied to their bowl game the way these guys are fixated on the Rose Bowl. In some way, that is a factor. However, that still leaves the other 3 votes. It makes zero sense to me for the Big East, ND, and the Big 12 to be against it.

To me, the NCAA needs to set up a play-off, and you either declare for a play-off or go to a bowl. They have FCS and FBS now... just modify it. They pit the best 4 teams that accept in the play-offs for the NC. If you want to go to the frigging Rose Bowl rather than the play-offs, be our guest. The NCAA will just offer the next best team available.