UC has no fans

[XUOHTX]

I understand it is Alabama St and the first game of the season, but really?

"UC’s 65-40 victory over Alabama State before 4,624 fans"

They have a nationally ranked team, and some highly touted individual players. This is just sad.

[Jumpy]

But they're a football school now. they can't be bothered with basketball. It's so beneath them.

[xuwin]

I understand it is Alabama St and the first game of the season, but really?

"UC’s 65-40 victory over Alabama State before 4,624 fans"

They have a nationally ranked team, and some highly touted individual players. This is just sad.

If that 4,624 was paid attendance I wonder how many were actually there.

[Snipe]

It is almost sad how far they have fallen. Almost.

Huggins killed that program with the way he left, and the diehards that left don't want to admit that. He calculated a way to force his resignation that would either continue his tenure or kill the program. Bob did succeed. He killed the program. Now look at the pathetic remains. Pathetic.

Bob Huggins has no integrity.

[Masterofreality]

Bob Huggins has no integrity.

Lest no man, nor woman forget that the above statement was memorialized on a banner attached to an airplane flown above Cat-Nip Stadium.

BTW. Said plane was paid for by the one and only Snipe-man and cronies. :p

Eternal reps and props for THAT genius move.

[bleedXblue]

This is a town that loves winners and doesn't support anything but that

With UC's cup cake non conference schedule, they will no doubt be 10-0 or whatever their record wil be and all the local talking heads will be slobbering all over them. Attendance will improve and IMHO, UC will sell out at least 4-5 of their Big East games.

[sgarcia]

I saw a little of the game yesterday and that thing they call an arena was empty. I honestly don't think more than 3,000 people showed up. Someone tell Mick that UC doesn't get any love because their own fans don't bother showing up for them and they're in the top 25! Maybe he should be bitching to them and not to media outlets. Awful gym, awful fanbase, awful coach.

[Snipe]

Having a venereal disease is more popular that being a UC basketball fan.

I would judge that as being not good for them. Meanwhile, we sell out our arena.

[xubrew]

Most of UC's OOC schedule is pathetic. That's at least part of the problem. Granted, you'd still expect them to have more fans than that, but Alabama State, Presby, Northwestern State, Radford, Pine Bluff and Chicago State aren't going to pack many houses.

I hate buy games, but I understand the principle. You pay a weak opponent X amount of money, and in return you get to open your arena and make your money back plus whatever extra based on ticket sales. UC might actually be losing money on these games. They're even screwing that up, and they've scheduled a ton of them. Nice going...

[XU 87]

They have a student body of 30,000+. They have an alumni base of 100,000+ which lives within one hour of UC.

The hoops team is in the BE and went to, and won, an NCAA game last year. And they get 4600 for their home opener?

What a pathetic fan base.

[QueensbridgeMF]

Flipped by the Georgia game yesterday, was unreal how empty their arena was. I don't think there were 1000 people there.

[pizza delivery]

The entertainment dollar is thin in Cincinnati. After XU, UC/WVU, St. X Colerian, Bengals/Steelers, they roll out Abalama St. it's no wonder their attendance stunk. But 4600 is pathetic no matter what. Here's what I saw, UC is going to be tough as hell and could crack the top 10 this year.

[Ledgewood]

Snipe, to be fair, having a venereal disease is pretty popular these days.

I am so disappointed in our hated rival's pathetic fan base. No support at all. I know Huggins dropped a grenade when he left the building, but shit, move on. We lose a great coach every 4 or so years, but the X Train just keeps on movin', and we still fill the seats. It really is sad. For the first time I decided to check out the UC basketball forums, but they don't really exist. No one even wants to talk about that program, not even their "fans". For that size of a college with a still relatively relevant team, that is so pathetic. The six or seven guys that do go on those forums only end up talking about us or bringing up Huggins. It's riballsulous.

And yeah, that Georgia game had fewer fans than my band's shows. Must all be occupying Atlanta or something.

[Cheesehead]

They have a student body of 30,000+. They have an alumni base of 100,000+ which lives within one hour of UC.

The hoops team is in the BE and went to, and won, an NCAA game last year. And they get 4600 for their home opener?

What a pathetic fan base.

Indeed. Weak economy or not. This is pathetic.

[XU 87]

Indeed. Weak economy or not. This is pathetic.

Even with a weak economy, Xavier sold out or came close to selling out an exhibition game a couple of weeks ago. The attendance figures truly show who has loyal fans and who doesn't.

[XU05and07]

This is a town that loves winners and doesn't support anything but that

With UC's cup cake non conference schedule, they will no doubt be 10-0 or whatever their record wil be and all the local talking heads will be slobbering all over them. Attendance will improve and IMHO, UC will sell out at least 4-5 of their Big East games.

They will not be 10-0. They will lose their 8th game of the year

[coasterville95]

Just remember, that number includes students and walk ups. Which means their season ticket base is lower than that. How long before they just curtain off the bleachers at the top of the 200 level. Even in their own ads, they know those seats stink by the sharp increase in price to move to the chairs in the first 15 rows. Used to be mini packs were up in the bleachers, now they are in the chairs.

Big East, Top 25, coming off a trip to the NCAA. Pathetic. I mean, I know it was a Sunday night game, and those aren't the most popular of times for sporting events.

And they don't have the shootout this year, so what games are going to fill their arena this year? I guess if they host Louisville, WVU or Pitt, they may come close.

[bleedXblue]

Natives are getting restless with Cronin

I cant believe the athletic director approved the OOC schedule.

But then again, I think they were without one when Cronin was painting the masterpeice

[drudy23]

They apparently think that a few years in the Big East gives them the clout to schedule like Syracuse. How can anyone with a brain complain about attendance with a home schedule THAT bad.

Mick - you're not Syracuse, Georgetown, or UCONN...even those schools who have earned the right to play whoever they want, they still play a better schedule than you.

Pathetic.

[xubrew]

Seriously.

The teams that UC scheduled are from poor conferences, and they typically do poorly in those conferences. Even by buy game standards, they're weak. Alabama State is actually one of the more accomplished teams. How sad is that??

[PMI]

Those guys aren't going to know what hit them come Shootout time. There is bad scheduling, there is terrible scheduling, and then there is Mick Cronin scheduling. I can't wait to wipe the floor with them when they're undefeated and start believing that they're pretty good.

[STL_XUfan]

Poor basketball attendance is clearly why the MAC has not extended UC an invitation to join their league yet.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

UC has worse attendance than Charlie Sheen working for Two and a Half Men

[MADXSTER]

I'm thinking this should be moved to the smack forum.

Presently this is in the Around The NCAA forum which UC clearly does not belong.

Just sayin :D

[SixFig]

I'm thinking this should be moved to the smack forum.

Presently this is in the Around The NCAA forum which UC clearly does not belong.

Just sayin :D

Around the NAIA?

[XU05and07]

Attendance for Tuesday nights 14 point "route" (Enquirer's words, not mine) came in at 4,542

Mick drove people away from game 1 to game 2

Nancy with 35 minutes and 8 points (nice effort, loser)

[Kahns Krazy]

It is almost sad how far they have fallen. Almost.

Huggins killed that program with the way he left, and the diehards that left don't want to admit that. He calculated a way to force his resignation that would either continue his tenure or kill the program. Bob did succeed. He killed the program. Now look at the pathetic remains. Pathetic.

Bob Huggins has no integrity.

I disagree. Cronin has killed the program. Huggins landed a couple good punches on his way out, but the fan base erosion to the current pathetic levels is all on Cronin. Former and current UC fans are fed up with his shit. He's a whiny little bitch, and he's not at all concerned with the same things the fans are concerned about.

[ballyhoohoo]

I think their fans will show up in droves for this weekends game against University of Phoenix

[xuwin]

I think their fans will show up in droves for this weekends game against University of Phoenix

I thought that was an internet service.

[GoMuskies]

I thought that was an internet service.

After the Super Bowl was at the University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale, I had a partner at my law firm tell me how he didn't realize that University of Phoenix had such a major football program. It was a little uncomfortable explaining to him that it was a naming rights deal just like Gillette Stadium or TD Banknorth Garden. I think he buried me with work for about three years for pointing that out to him.

[chico]

The problem with UC is their fanbase has the depth of a puddle. Sure, when it rains wins they're all there with their black and red garb, but when it's dry they're out of there. I don't know if this is on Huggins or Cronin but my guess is they're just fair weather fans.

Plus their home arena is one of the worst places to watch a game in the country. Anywhere past the first 8 rows of the upper deck (bench seats, too) and you might as well stay at home and watch on TV. And I love the fact that they're baseline seats go straight across and you basically face the crowd. It's simply the biggest all-purpose room in America.

[Xpectations]

UC is projecting higher attendance for this weekend's game against Beckfield.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

The problem with UC is their fanbase has the depth of a puddle. Sure, when it rains wins they're all there with their black and red garb, but when it's dry they're out of there. I don't know if this is on Huggins or Cronin but my guess is they're just fair weather fans.

Plus their home arena is one of the worst places to watch a game in the country. Anywhere past the first 8 rows of the upper deck (bench seats, too) and you might as well stay at home and watch on TV. And I love the fact that they're baseline seats go straight across and you basically face the crowd. It's simply the biggest all-purpose room in America.

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[eXdrummer]

Butler apparently has no fans either. They drew a whopping 6,078 fans for their home-opener before which they unveiled their second straight Final Four banner. Kinda sad.

[xu drew]

Butler apparently has no fans either. They drew a whopping 6,078 fans for their home-opener before which they unveiled their second straight Final Four banner. Kinda sad.

You're not sad about that at all...

[Billy]

I disagree. Cronin has killed the program. Huggins landed a couple good punches on his way out, but the fan base erosion to the current pathetic levels is all on Cronin. Former and current UC fans are fed up with his shit. He's a whiny little bitch, and he's not at all concerned with the same things the fans are concerned about.

Can you expand on that a bit?

Past the whining, what specifically is he doing? I'm not being flip here....I'm out of town, so this is kind of news to me.

[boozehound]

Can you expand on that a bit?

Past the whining, what specifically is he doing? I'm not being flip here....I'm out of town, so this is kind of news to me.

For one thing, he has to be one of the most un-likeable people on this planet.

[eXdrummer]

You're not sad about that at all...

Truth

[Smails]

For one thing, he has to be one of the most un-likeable people on this planet.

This. I am obviouly biased on this topic, but he just seems like a very difficult person to root for. He seems like he is always pissed at the world and he does not have the ability to loosen the fuk up.

Take Mo Egger's show for example. Mo is an admitted UC fanatic, but when you listen to Mo interview Cronin versus Mack it's lke night and day. When Mack is on his show, they talk basketball, have a few laughs and take turns making fun of themselves. When Mick is on it's all busineess, no levity and quite boring.

I think he's a PR nightmare for that basketball program. I think he's generally a miserable person.

[LadyMuskie]

Cronin is the poster child for Napoleonic syndrome. I know some say that the Napoleon complex is a myth or stereotype, but I've seen it in play enough to know that some men really do suffer from it, and I think he is one of those people. He has a beef with everyone right off the bat because he's short and because he has a problem with the fact that he is short thereby thinking that everyone else has a problem with him being short. In actuality, no one really gives two hoots how tall he or anyone else is (although admittedly I refused to date guys shorter than my 5'8", but that was my issue not theirs) but it is such an issue for him that it parlays into every facet of his existence turning him into a disagreeable, unlikable jerk.

**I'm not a psychologist in real life, but I took psychology courses at X, so I feel confident in playing one on this board :p.

[CinciX12]

4500 tonight. Another stellar night for the sUCks fanbase.

[Porkopolis]

I'll be at the Marshall game with my whole family making my annual contribution to UC's dreadful attendance. Of course I also completely intend to wear at least one article of Xavier clothing and listen to the Muskies on the radio while sitting in Fifth/Third.

[BandAid]

I'll be at the Marshall game with my whole family making my annual contribution to UC's dreadful attendance. Of course I also completely intend to wear at least one article of Xavier clothing and listen to the Muskies on the radio while sitting in Fifth/Third.

You should bring a makeshift hobo sign that says, "X tix sold out. Nowhere else to go. Please help."

[paulxu]

I'll be at the Marshall game with my whole family making my annual contribution to UC's dreadful attendance. Of course I also completely intend to wear at least one article of Xavier clothing and listen to the Muskies on the radio while sitting in Fifth/Third.

I'm not even sure I do that in Lent.

[LadyMuskie]

You should bring a makeshift hobo sign that says, "X tix sold out. Nowhere else to go. Please help."

Porkopolis - You totally have to do this! I'll even make the sign for you if you'll take it. I would LOVE to see this sign in the stands at UC!!

[Kahns Krazy]

UC should adopt a general admission policy for these games with less than 5k in the house. It is absurd to see people in the upper bowl when half of the lower bown is empty, and it looks like shit on TV. If I'm on UC's development committee, I'm calling my major sponsors who have those first 3 rows of empty seats and seeing what i can do to get butts in those seats.

[Porkopolis]

Porkopolis - You totally have to do this! I'll even make the sign for you if you'll take it. I would LOVE to see this sign in the stands at UC!!

I'm strongly considering it. :sword:

[CinciX12]

Haha that would be hilarious.

[Snipe]

Garvin and I thought about going to the UC/Dayton NIT game and just chanting NIT anytime anyone scored. I was thrilled at the thought of it, but I don't actually like getting punched in the face.

[paulxu]

Garvin and I thought about going to the UC/Dayton NIT game and just chanting NIT anytime anyone scored. I was thrilled at the thought of it, but I don't actually like getting punched in the face.

Since they only drew 6,479 people to that game at 5/3rd (and 95% of them were probably wearing red sweater vests) they could have used you guys to boost the attendance.

[blobfan]

Can you expand on that a bit?

Past the whining, what specifically is he doing? I'm not being flip here....I'm out of town, so this is kind of news to me.

Last season the Enquirer ran one of those "10 Things you don't know about Mick Cronin" articles. I think for him it was only 7. One of the things was "6. Some close to Cronin have implored him to be more visible in the community during the offseason as a way to drum up interest in the program and try to increase attendance."

It didn't say it but to me the implication is he isn't doing it so people are trying to tell him to. That sums it up for me. Do you want a head coach that refuses to be an ambassador for the program? Mack was doing interviews before he coached his first game!!!

[Xpectations]

Last season the Enquirer ran one of those "10 Things you don't know about Mick Cronin" articles. I think for him it was only 7. One of the things was "6. Some close to Cronin have implored him to be more visible in the community during the offseason as a way to drum up interest in the program and try to increase attendance."

It didn't say it but to me the implication is he isn't doing it so people are trying to tell him to. That sums it up for me. Do you want a head coach that refuses to be an ambassador for the program? Mack was doing interviews before he coached his first game!!!

I thought the "10 Things you didn't know about Mick Cronin" article (http://www.xavierhoops.com/forums/showpost.php?p=233893&postcount=4)made him very interesting and approachable to the average fan.

I know I had newfound respect for Mick after reading it.

[MaurerHigh]

So does this mean that Marshall would win the A-10?

[Muskie1000]

So does this mean that Marshall would win the A-10?

well duh

[Masterofreality]

XU with a sellout 10,250.

SucKS had 7,000.

Oscar must have brought his whole family.

[coasterville95]

One post on the bearcat news game thread indicated that it was an away game for them. The Marshal fans must have come in droves.

[Porkopolis]

One post on the bearcat news game thread indicated that it was an away game for them. The Marshal fans must have come in droves.



I was sad that a last minute surprise kept me from seeing Marshall basketball in person for the first time in years, but yes there were a ton of Herd fans at The Shoe. Every time the UC fans started "Let's Go Cats" it was noticeably drowned out by "Let's Go Herd." Marshall fans typically travel well and the Cincinnati/NKY alumni club is the largest in the country.

[PM Thor]

Could it be possible that Xavier basketball outdraws UC football? Even including the inflated numbers from the PBS game vs Louisville?

I HATE dayton.

[xubrew]

So does this mean that Marshall would win the A-10?

They'd probably finish in the top two or three. Seriously.

[Xavier]

They'd probably finish in the top two or three. Seriously.

agreed, I could easily see them 3rd.

[coasterville95]

Could it be possible that Xavier basketball outdraws UC football? Even including the inflated numbers from the PBS game vs Louisville?

I HATE dayton.

We need 9 sellouts to cancel out the two PBS games, mind you we already have three. Then there are what 4 Nippert games that has the potential to pull 140,000 more.

Including our exhibition which also pulled 10K plus, we would have 80k total potential seats left to cover the 4 Nippert games. So if those games average under 20K we have a real shot at it!

[bjf123]

XU with a sellout 10,250.

SucKS had 7,000.

Oscar must have brought his whole family.

The Big O hasn't been to a game yet this year. He rips UC and their scheduling in today's Enquirer. Says he'll be there, just not yet. And of course Mick tries to throw another dig at X by saying those schools that sell out early in the year probably don't have football. I don't really see a connection. Sorry Mick. Don't think Huggs had this problem. Clown.

[MADXSTER]

The Big O hasn't been to a game yet this year. He rips UC and their scheduling in today's Enquirer. Says he'll be there, just not yet. And of course Mick tries to throw another dig at X by saying those schools that sell out early in the year probably don't have football. I don't really see a connection. Sorry Mick. Don't think Huggs had this problem. Clown.

HAHAHAHA.....This is the makings of a Great Crosstown Shootout!!!

Gillen....Huggins....no hand shake good!

[GoMuskies]

And of course Mick tries to throw another dig at X by saying those schools that sell out early in the year probably don't have football.

Hmm, let's check in on a UC peer prgram, then, that is actually outdrawing UC in football, too. Let's look down the road to Louisville, Ky.

Here's Louisville's attendance so far for a mediocre (at best) group of games:

Midnight Madness: 11,614
Red/White Scrimmage: 9,463
Pikeville: 18,866
Bellarmine: 20,389 (Mick probably thinks this is because of all the Bellarmine fans)
UT-Martin: 20,485
Lamar: 19,842
Arkansas State: 20,323
Ohio: 21,334

Good call Mick.

[Kahns Krazy]

The Big O hasn't been to a game yet this year. He rips UC and their scheduling in today's Enquirer. Says he'll be there, just not yet. And of course Mick tries to throw another dig at X by saying those schools that sell out early in the year probably don't have football. I don't really see a connection. Sorry Mick. Don't think Huggs had this problem. Clown.

That article is a sham. It's a regurgitation of all the crap Mick blames the poor attendance on besides himself. I might hate Mick more than MOR hates the Big East or Thor hates Dayton.

What's the difference between Mick Cronin and a bucket of turds? The bucket.

[Kahns Krazy]

Could it be possible that Xavier basketball outdraws UC football? Even including the inflated numbers from the PBS game vs Louisville?

I HATE dayton.

No, it could not. UC has put over 165,000 fans through the turnstiles in 5 football games, and they still have one to go. The maximum attendance for X's home schedule would be 164,000 if all 16 games sold out. Not sure what the relevance of basketball attendance is to football attendance anyway.

[X-band '01]

It'll be a sad day when YTG takes another job or gets fired. He and Brian Gregory were dream coaches for Xavier fans.

[Snipe]

If there was ever a year to destroy the Bearcats by 30+, this is the year to do it.

Be sweet to see some signs in the stands thanking UC for Mick's extension to 2017. Cat fans have to cry. That program is going nowhere, but they are making good time.

[boozehound]

If there was ever a year to destroy the Bearcats by 30+, this is the year to do it.

Be sweet to see some signs in the stands thanking UC for Mick's extension to 2017. Cat fans have to cry. That program is going nowhere, but they are making good time.

I think we owe them a brutal beating after what they did to us last year.

[X-band '01]

I concur, but one of the few things that the Gnome does well is to prepare his teams to play Xavier, even if he has a losing record against the Muskies. UC managed to beat the Muskies in their worst season post-Tony Yates. Even the other 4 wins came by close margins, and 3 of those games could just as easily have been UC wins.

You have to go back to 1997-98 when Xavier delivered a Crosstown Blowout. If anything, I'd love to think Xavier took one for the team last year and helped UC to build just enough confidence to become an NCAA Tournament team.

[bjf123]

Not sure what the relevance of basketball attendance is to football attendance anyway.There isn't one. It's just Mick making another excuse. He never seems to run out of them.

[coasterville95]

I thought the article was interesting in that they mentioned the fact UC has a new AD. He promises to get right to the bottom of why basketball attendance is so low.

He mentioned marketing, ticket prices, parking, schedule. Note that he didn't mention the coach (which as Snipe loves to point out, has a multi million dollar iron clad extension through 2017) , or the arena. (Which I think everybody agrees sucks, particularly in the upper deck corners, or really any upper deck seat abiove row 16) also becasue that takes a lot of money to fix.

Maybe he can get Mick to move from the pastry cart to a more substantial part of the buffet when he turns in his 2012 OOC schdule.

BUt, at the same time, with this article, and the Doc article giving UC a pass for the pastry cart schedule. When UC does it "It's how college basketball works", remember the year WE had the pastry cart OOC schedule. The Enquirer (might have been Doc, I don't reall) vurtually did an I-Team Investigative Expose accusing us of cheating or manipulating our wins. I recall we had Florida A&M the night the article was published, and the article had put together some scathing, probably out of context, quotes from the FAMU coach along the lines of "Of course we play hard, but if it looks like the home team is going to lose, I may tell my guys to pull back. If we win, odds are we won't get invited back"

Trying to make it sound like we were buying not games (in lieu of having to make trips to their campus for return games) but buying W's for the record books. Of course the same article did, after it calmed down, explain that there are some schools out there, where the home attendance is so bad (or the arena so small), that playing virtually all their OOC games as road 'buy games' makes more money than they ever could with their own arena.

Hey, if UC attendance continues to decline, maybe they might want to look into that as a way to make money,.

[X-band '01]

You're thinking of Mike Gillespie - he's the Florida A&M coach (that's a great quote).

Steve Lappas also talked about it in jest within John Feinstein's Book The Last Amateurs - when Villanova was hosting Lafayette for a guarantee game, Lafayette narrowly missed an upset win on the road. Lappas wes telling O'Hanlon "You do realize that in a guarantee game that when we guarantee you X amount of dollars, you're supposed to guarantee us as win." That was a Lafayette team that did wind up making the NCAA Tournament that season.

[Kahns Krazy]

Some gems from today's UC article (http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20111128/SPT0101/111290323/Miami-tonic-toxic-UC-?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|s).
"I didn't feel like we were going to be 5-0," Gates said Monday, "just based on knowing my team. I think we started the season with success without earning it with being ranked. I know my teammates. We've never handled success well here."


Going into the season, Gates admits he didin't think he team was good enough to beat Presbyterian. I also think he may seriously laying the groundwork so he can say that he'd rather be unranked so he can sneak up on people.


"We have got to eat our vegetables," Cronin said. "I have the same problem trying to get my daughter to eat her vegetables because they're good for her.


What Mick is saying here is, uh, well, uh, I have no idea, Are losses good for you? Does he have a hard time coaching the right things? I really have no idea where he was going here.


To make matters worse, the Bearcats are dealing with a series of injuries. Guard JaQuon Parker is still out with a groin injury. Center Cheikh Mbodj is playing with a high ankle sprain. Dion Dixon is playing with a torn tendon in a finger on his left (non-shooting) hand. Center Kelvin Gaines has a shoulder injury and freshman forward Octavius Ellis has a fracture in his right hand that might force him to take a red-shirt year.


Mick is getting better at making sure every seat on the excuse wagon is booked before the game now.


This is the last game on the current contract with Miami. Cronin said he didn't know if the series would continue next year.


Mick is not sure if he wants to continue the series because he's afraid he might lose. Never mind that this will actually be a game that fans will be interested in coming to. I'd wager that this will be the Big O's first game of the year, and that, even though it's a Tuesday night, this will be one of the best attended games of the non-conference schedule, but Mick isn't sure if he wants to keep this one on the schedule. What a prick.

Go Redhawks.

[Juice]

Mick is not sure if he wants to continue the series because he's afraid he might lose. Never mind that this will actually be a game that fans will be interested in coming to. I'd wager that this will be the Big O's first game of the year, and that, even though it's a Tuesday night, this will be one of the best attended games of the non-conference schedule, but Mick isn't sure if he wants to keep this one on the schedule. What a prick.

Go Redhawks.

Miami's RPI is too high for Mick.

[Davis Love III]

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7294090/the-king-court-takes-look-top-storylines-college-basketball

Report card
D -- Cincinnati: If you're going to schedule soft in the nonconference, you'd better make sure you win all of your games. The Bearcats did that in 2010-11, when they entered Big East play with a spotless record. This season, though, Cincinnati has already lost to Presbyterian and Marshall. And big games still loom against Wright State, Radford and Arkansas-Pine Bluff. #sarcasmmeter

[Ledgewood]

UC favored to beat Miami by 12.5???? I'd take Miami this evening. Anyone have a guy?

[GoMuskies]

UC favored to beat Miami by 12.5???? I'd take Miami this evening. Anyone have a guy?

Take the Bearcats. A line that "off" is a sign to take the side that on its face makes no sense.

[X-band '01]

Concur with Go. For all of his successful game-planning against Xavier and Dayton, Coles has never been able to figure out UC, even in last year's matchup at Millett Hall.

Besides, UC has to prepare for their mighty road test at Wright State. Even Charlotte managed a W there last Saturday.

[Kahns Krazy]

The shats came back with a vengeance after their loss to Presby, I wouldn't be surprised to see them do the same thing tonight. If they can figure Miami out, don't look for them to ease of the gas at all.

[Ledgewood]

I dno, I happen to think UC sorta sucks at basketball.

[Blueblob4life]

I dno, I happen to think UC sorta sucks at everything.

I corrected it for you.

[Masterofreality]

I concur, but one of the few things that the Gnome does well is to prepare his teams to play Xavier, even if he has a losing record against the Muskies. UC managed to beat the Muskies in their worst season post-Tony Yates.


Yeah. Thanks for the great coaching job, desert raccoon. Possibly the worst prepared team, and the worst coached game ever in XU history. Xavier lost to a team that featured SucKS football players.

[X-band '01]

Are you saying Connor Barwin wouldn't have been an all-A10 player?

[coasterville95]

Catitude by 1 at the half. But Miami made a nice comeback in the close of the first half. Let's hope Coles makes the right half time adjustments and they can deliver UC another L for their trophy case.

I thought we won the year we played the UC football team at hoops. That was the Andy Kennedy year at Cintas right. The one where Huggins started out in a luxury box and by the end of the second half was about 3 rows off the court in the aisle between 104 and 106. You could tell he was really missing coaching that night.

Or were they still sending the football team in during Cronins first year where they gave us a 10 point bearing at FTA because we totally checked out during halftime. Speaking of that year, remember the crazy rumor that got started that we stuffed the crosstown trophy in the bottom of a towel hamper in the visitors locker room. That trophy never has resurfaced.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Catitude by 1 at the half. But Miami made a nice comeback in the close of the first half. Let's hope Coles makes the right half time adjustments and they can deliver UC another L for their trophy case.

I thought we won the year we played the UC football team at hoops. That was the Andy Kennedy year at Cintas right. The one where Huggins started out in a luxury box and by the end of the second half was about 3 rows off the court in the aisle between 104 and 106. You could tell he was really missing coaching that night.

Or were they still sending the football team in during Cronins first year where they gave us a 10 point bearing at FTA because we totally checked out during halftime. Speaking of that year, remember the crazy rumor that got started that we stuffed the crosstown trophy in the bottom of a towel hamper in the visitors locker room. That trophy never has resurfaced.

Or he was so hammered that after hurling in the bathroom he stumbled there by mistake thinking he was heading for the box for another round.

[paulxu]

Well, they ramped the attendance up to 6,457.
Probably all the Miami grads in town. Their win will keep them from dropping below Fordham in the RPI....just barely.

[GoMuskies]

Fordham stepped it up and beat Colgate....so it will be tight still.

[Ledgewood]

Woulda covered. Why didn't you guys let me bet all the money I have on this game?! Jerks.

[Smails]

Well, they ramped the attendance up to 6,457.
Probably all the Miami grads in town. Their win will keep them from dropping below Fordham in the RPI....just barely.

There were MAYBE 5k there last night...not even close to 6500

[Kahns Krazy]

Mick Cronin would love for Georgia fans to avoid Stegeman Coliseum tonight, when Cronin's Cincinnati Bearcats play the Bulldogs in the Big East/SEC Challenge in Athens, Ga.

Cronin hopes Georgia fans will be preoccupied with a certain event across the state in Atlanta, where the Georgia football team will play LSU on Saturday in the Southeastern Conference title game.

With football so huge down South, Cronin wouldn't mind a quiet basketball arena when UC (4-2) faces Georgia (4-3).

"I'm hoping that everybody in Athens is in Atlanta for the football game Saturday," Cronin said. "I'm hoping there's a big party (tonight) for the Georgia alumni and students in Atlanta. That's my hope."



How sad. Mick is hoping that UC's fans show up instead of Georgia's.

[boozehound]

How sad. Mick is hoping that UC's fans show up instead of Georgia's.

I don't think that he has to worry about too many Georgia fans showing up. In fact, I don't think that quote even makes sense. I get the impression that Mick thinks that Georgia fans care a lot more about this game than they actually do. Just because it is the crown jewel of UC's schedule so far doesn't mean that the same is true for Georgia.

There were very few Georgia fans at Cintas a few weeks ago. I wouldn't expect much more at the UC game.

[Kahns Krazy]

The UC game is at Georgia.

[boozehound]

The UC game is at Georgia.

D'oh!

Disregard above post.

[D-West & PO-Z]

EDIT: Mistake

[Kahns Krazy]

Mick got his wish. It sounded like a high school gym at Georgia last night. Most of the "high roller" seats were empty. UC actually looked like a decent team in the second half. If the second half team shows up, we are not going to beat them by 40. It will be more like 20. Georgia is not good, either.

[X-band '01]

I would be quite surprised if Xavier blew out UC. My fear is that you don't know which squad will show up from night to night.