Arizona loses to D2 Seattle Pacific (2011-2012 Follow Arizona Thread)

[Masterofreality]

At least when XU lost an exhibition game, it was to the eventual National D2 Champion.

#lexus?Ithinknot

Arizonaloses (http://azstarnet.com/sports/basketball/college/wildcats/seattle-pacific-arizona-exhibiting-big-flaws/article_74b5436c-909c-50ed-8626-2bea894ff246.html)

[muskiefan82]

Yeah. I can't get on them too much. Glass Houses and stones, ya' know?

[bobbiemcgee]

Robinson for Kyryl and Parrom not looking so bad now.

[Muskie]

I guess Exhibition games have started then? Seems weird for October.

[Ledgewood]

This makes me happy, because I hate Sean Miller.

[waggy]

They lost Momo, and I'm guessing Parrom is out right now. The guy that went to the NBA that had the monster year. They're still on the young side, and it's going to take awhile to get it sorted. I doubt they'll have as big a year as last year, but Sean will get the most out 'em in the end.

I don't root for Arizona, and I don't really root against them except that I want X ahead them, but that's no different than any other team in D1. I just can't hate on Sean. He did too many good things at X.

[Ledgewood]

They lost Momo, and I'm guessing Parrom is out right now. The guy that went to the NBA that had the monster year. They're still on the young side, and it's going to take awhile to get it sorted. I doubt they'll have as big a year as last year, but Sean will get the most out 'em in the end.

I don't root for Arizona, and I don't really root against them except that I want X ahead them, but that's no different than any other team in D1. I just can't hate on Sean. He did too many good things at X.

LeBron James did lots of good things in Cleveland, but I have no problems hating him. These guys didn't do anything for XU or Cleveland respectively, they did it so they could move on out to something they thought was better and insult us on the way (Lexus/Buick, Decision). They can both kick rocks.

[GoMuskies]

I just can't hate on Sean.

That's okay. I hate on him enough for both of us. And MOR does enough hating for 100 men.

[bobbiemcgee]

I'm way over it cuz Mack is a better Coach imho.

[xubrew]

I guess Exhibition games have started then? Seems weird for October.

You can start playing them the day after midnight madness. You just can't play any non-exempt games until the second Friday in November.

I never put any stock into exhibition games. Good coaches try and work on their weaknesses and focus on those rather than play to their strengths. The games don't count, so there is really no insentive to win.

[Masterofreality]

You can start playing them the day after midnight madness. You just can't play any non-exempt games until the second Friday in November.

I never put any stock into exhibition games. Good coaches try and work on their weaknesses and focus on those rather than play to their strengths. The games don't count, so there is really no insentive to win.

"Incentive"

King Kenny is ready to rumble:

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[LA Muskie]

Didn't we all agree last year that exhibition games are meaningless? Or did that apply only to us?

[golfitup]

Didn't we all agree last year that exhibition games are meaningless? Or did that apply only to us?

Duh. Only to us.

[GoMuskies]

Didn't we all agree last year that exhibition games are meaningless? Or did that apply only to us?

It's different when you're a Lexus. You expect a Buick to sputter sometimes.

[Xavier]

Arizona should be thrilled with Miller--I mean, he only took them to the elite 8 in his second year running the program.

[SkyWalker]

I'm way over it cuz Mack is a better Coach imho.

I'm with bobbie here. Coaches come and coaches go but this Buick keeps on running just fine. This program hasn't hasn't missed a beat in 30 years. Mack can take us to the promised land as well if not better than Miller.

[DC Muskie]

Is this what is in store for Zona since they don't have Archie on the bench?

[doug204]

Arizona should be thrilled with Miller--I mean, he only took them to the elite 8 in his second year running the program.

And just signed another top 10 recruit.

[bobbiemcgee]

Bejarano, Jr. ?

[jco17]

Bejarano, Jr. ?

No. Kaleb T. 5* Center. Stole him away from Self and KU.

http://eye-on-college-basketball-recruiting.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/33053955

[Masterofreality]

And just signed another top 10 recruit.

Yeah, just like Kyryl.

Keep drinking the recruiting ranking kool aid.

[jco17]

Seattle Pacific is actually a pretty good team. They beat Nevada and Eastern Washington last year and their whole team is basically back. Parrom won't be back for likely another month or so and he is definately one of our best if not our best player. K-Real has been a disappointment, I will surely give you that one. He's one of those players who look like they will be amazing if you watch him practice. Not translating in the games yet.

Our front court is really young and inexperienced. We had Jacobsen who is a 7 footer out due to injury as well. Not much to take from this game, just need to learn from it. We are young, so we will struggle a bit, especially with Parrom out. This game didn't count, we're still 0-0, so it's not a big deal. We lost one of the best players in college basketball, Parrom, and our starting point guard, so it's gonna take a little time to going. All four freshman are gonna be leaned on this year to produce and I think they will once they get their feet wet.

[jco17]

Yeah, just like Kyryl.

Keep drinking the recruiting ranking kool aid.

Kyryl was a four star and considered a bit of a project. While Tarc has things to work on, he's no Kyryl. He's a much better athlete, has a better motor, and is a much much better prospect than Kyryl.

[Muskie]

Will I need a follow arizona thread again this year?

[jco17]

We have 2 top 10 bigs in Tarc and Ashley and Jerrett who may be the most advance of all of them in the same class. We have the #1 class in the country. I understand people still dislike Miller, I get that, but it's pretty hard to knock what he's putting togther. He still reps Xavier and has nothing but great things to say about your program and your fans.

Rankings Kool-Aid?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93rS71wmt7w Tarc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJh_VBKnYWk Ashley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGLuqklgrNI Jerrett

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgPJri2MqDU York

[jco17]

Will I need a follow arizona thread again this year?

I vote yes. I like interacting with Xavier fans. You guys are great.

[LA Muskie]

Yeah, just like Kyryl.

Keep drinking the recruiting ranking kool aid.
'Cause we don't get excited about recruiting rankings ourselves?

[jco17]

Wanted to point out that Tu is #2 in the rivals pg power rankings. Only player ahead of him is Jordan Taylor of Wisky. Great to see Tu getting some love on rivals.

[bobbiemcgee]

Parrom avg'd 7-8 ppg last year. if he is your best could be long year.

[Masterofreality]

'Cause we don't get excited about recruiting rankings ourselves?

Actually, some of us don't.

The rest of us shouldn't.

[XU 87]

I care about recruiting rankings. Would you rather have a recruit rated in the top 75 who chose X over Tennesse, Wake and Kansas State, or would you rather have a recruit not in the top 150 who chose X over Miami (Ohio) and Bowling Green?

The ratings aren't perfect (see Churhill Odia). But they are a decent predictor.

[boozehound]

I care about recruiting rankings. Would you rather have a recruit rated in the top 75 who chose X over Tennesse, Wake and Kansas State, or would you rather have a recruit not in the top 150 who chose X over Miami (Ohio) and Bowling Green?

The ratings aren't perfect (see Churhill Odia). But they are a decent predictor.

I agree. You can always point to a player who was highly ranked that turned out to be a bust or a player that was an unranked recruit that turned out to be great, but overall rankings correlate to better players. There is a reason why teams the recruit highly ranked players are the best teams.

[Muskie]

And there you have it. If you want to follow the exploits of former X coaches and X recruits post the Arizona related stuff here.

[XUglow]

jco, is Byrne going to go after his old buddy, Mullen? Was Stoops only getting $1.1M???

[FIGHTING MUSKETEER]

FYI, right now they are playing another Div. 2 team, Humbolt State Univ., and losing by 10 with 8 min to play in the 1st half. Its on Fox Sports Arizona, channel 415 on dishnetwork.

[SixFig]

Hate Arizona as much as the next Xavier fan, but this intro is cool, featuring NBA All Stars

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJwIJbkCBtc&feature=player_embedded

I think X could get one with our greats. Hill, Grant, Posey, West, Brown, Crawford

[jco17]

jco, is Byrne going to go after his old buddy, Mullen? Was Stoops only getting $1.1M???

No on Mullen. Byrne has a good realtionship with Peterson of Boise State, but I don't see that happening. I'm thinking our next coach will be ex-Oregon HC Mike Beloti which would be a great hire for us. Yeah, Stoops didn't get much in salary. I'm sure there were other perks though, but I'm not a huge football fan like I am basketball. I can tell you a lot about our football team, but I'm not as well versed in football.

[jco17]

FYI, right now they are playing another Div. 2 team, Humbolt State Univ., and losing by 10 with 8 min to play in the 1st half. Its on Fox Sports Arizona, channel 415 on dishnetwork.

We won that one. We beat Valpo and Duquense as well. Duquense was really pesky and played their butts off. We didn't play very well though, 20 some turnovers, and only won by 9 points. It was apparent that the Duquense coach had a good game plan against Miller due to his familiarity with him while at Xavier. I'm sure you guys won't have a problem with them once you get to conference play.

We need a good amount of work. Thankfully Parrom will be able to practice now, he's recovering quickly, and he's itching to get back on the court. There's always a learing curve with freshman and we are relying on 3 of them to give us good minutes and to be productive. The major surprise has been Angelo Chol who has earned the starting 5 spot for us over Kyryl and Sidiki Johnson.

[jco17]

I care about recruiting rankings. Would you rather have a recruit rated in the top 75 who chose X over Tennesse, Wake and Kansas State, or would you rather have a recruit not in the top 150 who chose X over Miami (Ohio) and Bowling Green?

The ratings aren't perfect (see Churhill Odia). But they are a decent predictor.

Rankings aren't perfect due to perceived upside. Some players have all the tools to be great, they dominate at the younger level because of those tools, but they don't have it between the ears to dominate other players who have those same tools at the next level. Gotta be mentally tough to make it far in college basketball. Kids are used to being the man at their high schools or their AAU programs. Division I teams are filled with those types of players and it's up to the individual to work hard enough to give themselves an edge.

A really good example is Bobo Morgan. He was a five star big coming out of High School. He was just bigger and stronger than almost every kid in his class. It made it so much easier for him to dominate these later blooming kids. He was rated off of the potential player he could have been and what he was able to do to his current peers. However, he had a horrible work ethic, a bad attitude, and he wasn't in good shape. Lots of schools steered clear of him because of that despite his potential and his high ranking.

Another good example is Chris Thomas. Great player, great upside, and may be the best offensive player in the 2013 class. Nobody that I know has a real offer out to him vice maybe Colorado who is his home state. Why? His grades need tons of work, he picked up a bunch of technicals over the AAU season, was kicked out of at least one of those games, and coachability could be a problem. He's a top 5 talent in his class. It's up to the coaches to evaluate the player and the person they are recruiting. Sometimes it's just not worth the risk and it's best to put valuable time into other, more deserving individuals.

[jco17]

Parrom avg'd 7-8 ppg last year. if he is your best could be long year.

He also wasn't the number 1 option last year. He plays tough defense, rebounds well, has good handles, takes good shots, and is a good leader for our team. Stat lines don't always tell the true story either. Miller wants the ball spread around as well as the scoring. Also, we played 8-9 players all year long, so the offensive production would be down a bit with less minutes. He's a very efficient player all around and needed for us to reach our potential.

[bobbiemcgee]

Guess I just didn't see the "star talent" in the Dukies game. If the Dukes could have made any 3's at all it would have been a long night for AZ. Also, AZ should have dominated in the post but didn't. Montiero in immediate foul trouble was the key to the AZ win as they had to then rely on the 3 and couldn't get them to go down. Dukes still had a chance with less than a minute and went for some dumb inside play (turnover) when they needed to shoot a fast 3 to get within 3. Nick Johnson looks good, otherwise not impressed for a top 16 team.

[Cincypunk.org]

Arizona down 2 at home against Ball St. (55-53) with 6 minutes left. Uh oh.

[waggy]

That intentional foul call, jeez.

[bobbiemcgee]

Wasn't that the Jesse Berry who UD was hyping? AZ 73-63

[doug204]

Parrom is finally back.

You can say what you want but he's put in work in the off-season before he was shot. He has worked on his inside game and has transformed into a vocal leader for this team and is well loved in Tucson because of what happened off the court and being able to play again. :D

[bobbiemcgee]

Yeah, his 6 pts. were the difference.

[jco17]

Yeah, his 6 pts. were the difference.

He was a huge shot in the arm in that game for us. 6 pts 4 rebounds 2 assists in 18 minutes isn't bad at all being his first game back. He calmed the team down and played great defense.

[jco17]

That intentional foul call, jeez.

Bad call, didn't care for it. The game was pretty much over, but still a ridiculous call to make in that situation.

[bobbiemcgee]

He was a huge shot in the arm in that game for us. 6 pts 4 rebounds 2 assists in 18 minutes isn't bad at all being his first game back. He calmed the team down and played great defense.

Jeff Robinson for Kryrl/Parrom looks pretty good now. Good Luck to all.

[Masterofreality]

Guess I just didn't see the "star talent" in the Dukies game. If the Dukes could have made any 3's at all it would have been a long night for AZ. Also, AZ should have dominated in the post but didn't. Montiero in immediate foul trouble was the key to the AZ win as they had to then rely on the 3 and couldn't get them to go down. Dukes still had a chance with less than a minute and went for some dumb inside play (turnover) when they needed to shoot a fast 3 to get within 3. Nick Johnson looks good, otherwise not impressed for a top 16 team.

Arizona is now 26th in Gary Parish's "Top 25 plus one".

The Buick is now 12th.

[doug204]

Arizona is now 26th in Gary Parish's "Top 25 plus one".

The Buick is now 12th.

When's the banner ceremony?

[bobbiemcgee]

When's the banner ceremony?

Turner and Bejarheado were the standard bearers but they were late so no ceremony.

[Xavgrad08]

If you scroll down the page, Jeff Goodman interviews Sean Miller with ten questions. One of his questions was asking who he will pull for, X or UD. Sean said he is forever grateful l for his opportunity at X, but he has to pull for Archie. Sean makes these comments at about the 3:00 minute mark of the interview.

I am a big Sean Miller fan and I understand that he has to pull for his own brother. However, I hated hearing him say that. http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/view/26283066

[DC Muskie]

If you scroll down the page, Jeff Goodman interviews Sean Miller with ten questions. One of his questions was asking who he will pull for, X or UD. Sean said he is forever grateful l for his opportunity at X, but he has to pull for Archie. Sean makes these comments at about the 3:00 minute mark of the interview.

I am a big Sean Miller fan and I understand that he has to pull for his own brother. However, I hated hearing him say that. http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/view/26283066

What do you expect? He starts out saying someone told him "It's not about where you are from."

No one loves Xavier more than him, but he hopes his brother breaks the streak.

He is the enemy. No fan of him. When he keeps talking like this about Xavier, always having a prefacing comment before contradicting it, just proves that he shouldn't talk about us anymore.

[bobbiemcgee]

How does AZ defend GodsGift ?

[LadyMuskie]

What do you expect? He starts out saying someone told him "It's not about where you are from."

No one loves Xavier more than him, but he hopes his brother breaks the streak.

He is the enemy. No fan of him. When he keeps talking like this about Xavier, always having a prefacing comment before contradicting it, just proves that he shouldn't talk about us anymore.

I couldn't agree more. I really wish people would stop asking him about Xavier and I wish he would stop talking about it. Every time he opens his bloated pie hole, he slips in an underhanded comment about X. I'm done with it.

The only Miller family member I want to hear about is Archie when I read about him in the paper at least twice this season curled up in the fetal position after his "team" takes a brutal beating from X. Otherwise, the Miller family is dead to me.

[smileyy]

Of course, some people here would be pissed if he answered every question about Xavier with "I've moved on. I'm Arizona's head coach now."

I guess those people get tiny American flags.

[LadyMuskie]

Of course, some people here would be pissed if he answered every question about Xavier with "I've moved on. I'm Arizona's head coach now."

I guess those people get tiny American flags.

I don't know what this means. I'm assuming it's meant to be an insult or put down, but I don't get it, so I'll just say thank you for my tiny American flag (woot!:D) and I'd love if Sean Miller would actually say that he's moved on. But, since he hasn't moved on I guess he can't say that he has.

[smileyy]

The "Tiny American Flags" reference is from a Simpsons Halloween special where the octopus-like aliens Kang and Kodos are running for President (as indistinguishable candidates).


Kang: Abortions for all.
[crowd boos]
Very well, no abortions for anyone.
[crowd boos]
Hmm... Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others.
[crowd cheers and waves miniature flags]


http://www.snpp.com/episodes/4F02.html

Basically, no matter what Miller says or doesn't say about Xavier, he'll piss off some segment of this message board. Hell, he could buy a Buick tomorrow, and people would read something into it.

[LadyMuskie]

The "Tiny American Flags" reference is from a Simpsons Halloween special where the octopus-like aliens Kang and Kodos are running for President (as indistinguishable candidates).



http://www.snpp.com/episodes/4F02.html

Basically, no matter what Miller says or doesn't say about Xavier, he'll piss off some segment of this message board. Hell, he could buy a Buick tomorrow, and people would read something into it.

Good lord. What is it with guys and Simpsons references? It will really disappoint my husband to know I didn't get that reference since he insists I watch the Treehouse of Horror episode every year and in return I make him watch an episode of Real Housewives of New Jersey. :p

Oh, and MILLER SUCKS! ;)

[jco17]

How does AZ defend GodsGift ?

I forgot he was in the game about 2 mins into it. That Lindsey kid is a stud for them though, just a tough kid. Very tough win for us, that team took it to us at times. Solid win for us. Time to see how we match up against Sydney and Miss State.

[doug204]

If you scroll down the page, Jeff Goodman interviews Sean Miller with ten questions. One of his questions was asking who he will pull for, X or UD. Sean said he is forever grateful l for his opportunity at X, but he has to pull for Archie. Sean makes these comments at about the 3:00 minute mark of the interview.

I am a big Sean Miller fan and I understand that he has to pull for his own brother. However, I hated hearing him say that. http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/view/26283066

Ridiculous.

Arizona fans were complaining because in the first 9 months or so all Miller did was talk about Xavier. He's loves that place and appreciates it. The Buick comment was a recruiting tool sorta speak. Xavier is obviously a good program, top 15-20 or so in the past decade. I say get over it.

[smileyy]

I forgot he was in the game about 2 mins into it. That Lindsey kid is a stud for them though, just a tough kid. Very tough win for us, that team took it to us at times. Solid win for us. Time to see how we match up against Sydney and Miss State.

Anybody matches up well with Renardo Sidney as his 0-9 line tonight.

[XUglow]

Anybody matches up well with Renardo Sidney as his 0-9 line tonight.

Moultrie is the guy inside for MSU. He had 19 pts and 10 reb tonight. He and Sidney make a good pair inside.

[Masterofreality]

I couldn't agree more. I really wish people would stop asking him about Xavier and I wish he would stop talking about it. Every time he opens his bloated pie hole, he slips in an underhanded comment about X. I'm done with it.

The only Miller family member I want to hear about is Archie when I read about him in the paper at least twice this season curled up in the fetal position after his "team" takes a brutal beating from X. Otherwise, the Miller family is dead to me.


Good lord. What is it with guys and Simpsons references? It will really disappoint my husband to know I didn't get that reference since he insists I watch the Treehouse of Horror episode every year and in return I make him watch an episode of Real Housewives of New Jersey. :p

Oh, and MILLER SUCKS! ;)

I am loving the Lady's venom here.

Well done!!

[GoMuskies]

Forget the basketball game, who won the Renardo Sidney vs. Sean Miller hot dog eating contest on Coney Island?

[bobbiemcgee]

I would suggest that Mack is a better coach than miller anyway, so don't see any agruments anymore. 51-17 don't lie. :D Some people love the desert, personally, having lived there, I think it sucked.

[Ledgewood]

I like it when Arizona loses games because I HATE Sean Miller.

If he liked Xavier so much then he should have stayed here and won a national championship. He can kick rocks.

[GoMuskies]

Lexus has wobbly wheels at home against San Diego State tonight.

[vee4xu]

Attention. Attention in the upset aisle please.

SDSU 54
AZ 46

5:50 left in second half

[vee4xu]

Final

SDSU 61
AZ 57

Happy Thanksgiving Sean!

[bobbiemcgee]

Didn't see Sidiki Johnson around:

http://www.slamonline.com/online/college-hs/college/2011/11/arizona-suspends-sidiki-johnson-indefinitely/

[X-band '01]

This isn't the same San Diego State squad that went to the Sweet 16 last year - that just makes it sweeter for the posters who still can't get over Sean Miller.

[Xavgrad08]

Kyryl Natyazhko is really bad. So glad that he didn't end up here.

[gladdenguy]

Happy Thanksgiving Sean Miller.....I am thankful you left Xavier University.

[Xman95]

Nice that one of SDSU's starters was Xavier Thames.

[xuwin]

The Lexus appears to be a lemon.

[Masterofreality]

Didn't see Sidiki Johnson around:

http://www.slamonline.com/online/college-hs/college/2011/11/arizona-suspends-sidiki-johnson-indefinitely/

Based upon some post game commentary, it appears that Mr. Johnson will not be returning to the desert.

[Ledgewood]

Sean Miller is stupid and his face is as dumb as a butt.

[X Factor]

sean miller is stupid and his face is as dumb as a butt.


Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

[GoMuskies]

This isn't the same San Diego State squad that went to the Sweet 16 last year - that just makes it sweeter for the posters who still can't get over Sean Miller.

San Diego State did beat Long Beach over the weekend.

[Ledgewood]

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m387/jmLedgewood/sean.jpg

[Titanxman04]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Best. Picture. Ever. (At least once concerning Miller).

[DC Muskie]

Well one miller did break a streak...two years ago.

[LA Muskie]

This isn't the same San Diego State squad that went to the Sweet 16 last year - that just makes it sweeter for the posters who still can't get over Sean Miller.

I don't think there's anyone who "can't get over Miller" in these parts. Seems to me that everyone it the trolls are thrilled with Mack. That doesn't mean Miller isn't an outstanding coach though. He is.

Seems to me that the people who "can't get over Miller" are the irrational haters.

[bobbiemcgee]

Based upon some post game commentary, it appears that Mr. Johnson will not be returning to the desert.

Seems like Johnson would have a hard time commuting since he never left NY on 11/18.
Kryrl and Parrom look like busts also.

[MADXSTER]

TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
RT @azdesertswarm: Freshman Sidiki Johnson has left the Arizona Wildcats program.

[smileyy]

Kryrl and Parrom look like busts also.

Miller's last recruiting class at XU didn't exactly tear the joint up. Makes me wonder if that's a problem for Miller.

[bleedXblue]

Buick is a top 10 program and the Lexus is having engine problems.

[bobbiemcgee]

Looks like Sean booted Sidicki:

http://www.wildcat.arizona.edu/index.php/article/2011/12/sidiki_johnson_will_transfer_from_arizona

[jco17]

Looks like Sean booted Sidicki:

http://www.wildcat.arizona.edu/index.php/article/2011/12/sidiki_johnson_will_transfer_from_arizona

Yeah Diki got booted and Turner is suspended for missing a shoot around. For the Miller haters, tonight should be a very fun game to watch when we play Florida without our point guard. Kevin Parrom is still hurt, he was shot in the leg before the season started, and didn't have feeling in his leg for some time afterwards. It's tough to come back right away from something like that and he hasn't been able to log many minutes since the St Johns game. Things are progressing slowly for him.

[jco17]

San Diego State did beat Long Beach over the weekend.

SDSU is a good team. That's not a bad loss, neither was the loss to MSU. Tonights likely loss against Florida won't be a bad loss either. We really needed Turner for this game and he got himself suspended. Kid needs to get it together or Diki won't be the only one that gets booted. It's frustrating that some kids need multiple kicks in the butt until they can get it together. Oh well, our team will need to get it together, and play hard. Time to see what our team is made of. I'd be very happy to keep this game within 15 points to be honest.

[bobbiemcgee]

Some of these prima donnas think they can waltz in, stick a few hoops and sign for millions. They can't play a lick of D and when Sean clamps down in his D first stance, they seem to fold. Is this what happened to Bejarno too?

[jco17]

Some of these prima donnas think they can waltz in, stick a few hoops and sign for millions. They can't play a lick of D and when Sean clamps down in his D first stance, they seem to fold. Is this what happened to Bejarno too?

Yeah, Beja was not known for his defense. He saw it getting crowded and made a good decision for him. I have no ill will towards Beja at all, he was honest, a good teammate, and a good young man. Sidiki Johnson on the other hands, needs to grow up, and act like a real man. He not only quit on his team, but as far as I know, has decided he doesn't need to finish out the semester, and will hurt his team's APR. Miller gave him opportunities to get it together and Diki refused, he pouted on the bench, and was a problem in the locker room. Good riddance to him. I have no respect for him at all. I don't wish bad on him, but he doesn't exist to me.

Turner is immature too, he's a great talent, and he's a pretty good defender. The potential is there for him to be a great player for us. He just needs to get it together between the ears. If he doesn't, he needs to go, and I have no problem with Sean telling him to hit the bricks. I don't wnat our coach to have any tolerance for this type of crap. I'd honestly rather lose than cave in and not teach a young man a lesson he really needs to learn. No player is bigger than the team, we did okay without him tonight against Florida. We really could have used him, but that's the way it goes.

[bobbiemcgee]

Yep, think you win with Turner out there tonite. His quickness would've caused some problems for Fla. Hopefully he watched the game, without the sound on, from his couch and realizes what he's throwing away. Only two ways to go here, Sean's way or....

[jco17]

Yep, think you win with Turner out there tonite. His quickness would've caused some problems for Fla. Hopefully he watched the game, without the sound on, from his couch and realizes what he's throwing away. Only two ways to go here, Sean's way or....

Agreed. The thing that I thought would happen for Arizona was we'd be able to exploit their smaller, softer minded guards, and really go after them. Without Turner, it was going to be an uphill battle because our best ball handler was out of the game, and it really hurt us at the end of the game. We gave the ball away a few times in the clutch. Oh well, we played hard, and I don't think they want to see us again anytime soon on a neutral court.

We bouced back well against Clemson. Now they aren't a great team, but they are a good team. They had lost 3 games by a total of 7 points. We trounced them pretty good by 16. Gotta learn how to finish those types of games we had against Florida. Could definately take a page out of Xavier's book when it comes to finishing games like you guys did to Purdue. That game was awesome!

[GoMuskies]

Speaking of Arizona and Sean Miller, what the hell was this all about:

Arizona Sean Miller: “I’m proud of those guys and I would fully expect for them to be in a fight.” (via Arizona Daily Wildcat)

What a bizarre quote that is.

[jco17]

Speaking of Arizona and Sean Miller, what the hell was this all about:

Arizona Sean Miller: “I’m proud of those guys and I would fully expect for them to be in a fight.” (via Arizona Daily Wildcat)

What a bizarre quote that is.

I think what he said may have been taken out of context. I could be wrong though. I think what he actually said was he wasn't surprised there was a fight due to the intesity of the rivalry. I saw that comment somewhere else worded the way I did. Miller said, he was proud of X, you guys are a really tough team, and he was proud of your performance. If I get any kind of confirmation from anybody, I will definately let you know.

[jco17]

This is what Miller actually said, "I'm proud of those guys and I would fully expect for them to be in a fight."

Depends on how you translate what he said. I took it as, he was proud of the win and the fight didn't surprise him due to the rivalry. I could see how you could easily read that differently and it may just be a couple longer quotes summarized.

[jco17]

Coach Sean Miller said he had seen the brawl at the end of Saturday's Xavier-Cincinnati game. Miller, the former coach at Xavier, said, "I would fully expect there to (be) a fight," knowing the intensity of the rivalry. "Nobody is going to bully those guys," Miller said of Xavier

This is what is being reported by CBS.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/rapid-reports/post/16402114

[bobbiemcgee]

Sean Miller is a Great American.

[LadyMuskie]

I apologize to Sean for some of the mean things I said about in this thread and other threads. He's not as awful as I originally thought he was.

[jco17]

I apologize to Sean for some of the mean things I said about in this thread and other threads. He's not as awful as I originally thought he was.

Yeah, honestly, I've never heard him say anything negative about Xavier. He always speaks highly of X and goes out of his way to compliment you guys. Definately understand why X fans were pissed when he left, it was understandable for sure. He still likes your program and follows closely.

[LadyMuskie]

Yeah, honestly, I've never heard him say anything negative about Xavier. He always speaks highly of X and goes out of his way to compliment you guys. Definately understand why X fans were pissed when he left, it was understandable for sure. He still likes your program and follows closely.

Hey! I never claimed my (apparently not) unyielding hatred of him was reasonable. :D

But he has made some slightly underhanded comments that could be interpreted more than one way. But, for now, I forgive him for those. For now. We'll see how it goes next week.;)

[jco17]

Hey! I never claimed my (apparently not) unyielding hatred of him was reasonable. :D

But he has made some slightly underhanded comments that could be interpreted more than one way. But, for now, I forgive him for those. For now. We'll see how it goes next week.;)

Yeah, I think he wishes he could take back the buick/lexus comment.

[Ledgewood]

I still hate Sean Miller.

[GoMuskies]

i still hate sean miller.

+10,000

[DC Muskie]

Yeah, honestly, I've never heard him say anything negative about Xavier. He always speaks highly of X and goes out of his way to compliment you guys. Definately understand why X fans were pissed when he left, it was understandable for sure. He still likes your program and follows closely.

I love this stuff. We have Sean's official spokesman here. He still likes us, even after he left three years ago. Gosh, I feel warm all over.

Should I expect him to be negative about Xavier? Should I expect him not to speak highly of our school? I don't need for him to go out of his way to compliment us. If you really liked us, you don't go out of your way.

Good grief. One day we will stop caring about Sean's opinion about what happens here. He is not John Wooden for crying out loud.

For some reason I just can't stop myself from posting on one of the worst threads on this site. I must have some UC blood in me.

and Jco, save the time trying again to explain what you meant that basically waters down to just how much you like us and understand everything. You understand nothing.

Lord grant me the strength to stay away from this thread. Or end the constant need to get Sean's opinion on all things Xavier.

[jco17]

I love this stuff. We have Sean's official spokesman here. He still likes us, even after he left three years ago. Gosh, I feel warm all over.

Should I expect him to be negative about Xavier? Should I expect him not to speak highly of our school? I don't need for him to go out of his way to compliment us. If you really liked us, you don't go out of your way.

Good grief. One day we will stop caring about Sean's opinion about what happens here. He is not John Wooden for crying out loud.

For some reason I just can't stop myself from posting on one of the worst threads on this site. I must have some UC blood in me.

and Jco, save the time trying again to explain what you meant that basically waters down to just how much you like us and understand everything. You understand nothing.

Lord grant me the strength to stay away from this thread. Or end the constant need to get Sean's opinion on all things Xavier.

You're a lot different when when you send private messages. You don't have to put on a show for everybody else. We get along just fine you and I. There's mixed feelings about him here, I get it. Just having a convo with some good people, which includes you.

[DC Muskie]

You're a lot different when when you send private messages. You don't have to put on a show for everybody else. We get along just fine you and I. There's mixed feelings about him here, I get it. Just having a convo with some good people, which includes you.

Nothing I have said in private messages is different then what I put on the boards, so spare this crap. Nothing. I don't hate you jco, I can't prevent you from posting here, I just don't understand why you keep coming back.

We are not having a "conversation." You keep justifying Sean when it does not need to happen. It just doesn't. Who cares what he thought about the fight? Who cares that you know that he goes out of his way to compliment us? Who needs or is asking for reassurances?

[GoMuskies]

DC, a good person? Ask all the dead hookers.

[Masterofreality]

The Lexus is in the ditch with 2 wheels off today and all 4 tires missing.

Down twenty to the cute Xags at the half.

[Ledgewood]

Sean Miller should try coaching better so that his team wins games. What an idiot.

[jco17]

The Lexus is in the ditch with 2 wheels off today and all 4 tires missing.

Down twenty to the cute Xags at the half.

We played a lot better in the second half. Not a good game for us, terrible start to the game that sunk us. Decent win against Oakland for us though. We expected to struggle a bit this year without Momo and Derrick. We should be fine though, the Pac 12 is terrible thus far.

[jco17]

DC, a good person? Ask all the dead hookers.

He's not a bad dude.