Game of Thrones

[BBC 08]

Who's excited/going to be watching the GoT season finale tonight?

Also, has anyone read the books?

[Titanxman04]

From all your Facebook ravings about this, I just knew, KNEW, you'd post something about this show eventually. I am hooked and while I haven't read any of the books (I plan to), I am thrilled to watch the season finale.

How pissed were you at the end of the last episode (no spoilers)?!?

[Porkopolis]

I haven't watched the show yet but plan to eventually. I'm currently reading the first book and it is very, very good.

[SlimKibbles]

From all your Facebook ravings about this, I just knew, KNEW, you'd post something about this show eventually. I am hooked and while I haven't read any of the books (I plan to), I am thrilled to watch the season finale.

How pissed were you at the end of the last episode (no spoilers)?!?

I just started reading the books due to getting hooked on the HBO series. I was pissed after last week's episode. Thought the finale was good. Have to wait a whole year for season 2.

By the way, you can get the 4-book set online at Borders for only $19.78. That's what I did. Regular price is about $36.

http://www.borders.com/online/store/TitleDetail?sku=0345529057

[Jumpy]

I've finished the first four books of the series and they are awesome. Martin has created a very detailed universe of political and physical war that isn't hard to follow once you get in and become familiar with the players. The fifth and final book is supposed to be released next month. I can't wait.

I have only seen the first episode of the HBO series. It was good, but I just haven't gotten the itch to add $18/mo. to watch it. Now that the season is over, I may get it for a month just so I can quickly watch all the episodes on HBO Go.

[Titanxman04]

I'm hoping to read all the books between the seasons. I keep reading great reviews of the guy's writing.

[Smails]

I watched the entire season and it has completely grown on me. I was skeptical b/c I am not a Lord of the Rings/ Witches and Wizardry fan at all. I have been pleasantly surprised with how good the acting has been, the story lines are incredible and the HBO adds the perfect mix of skin and blood to keep a guy like me completely engaged. I'm a "The Wire", "Band of Brothers" type...couldn't get into TrueBlood or Carnivale.

Now, about the Finale: Complete crap...no resolution..no closure to any storyline. That being said, I'll be tuning next spring fopr sure.

[delynn10]

I am one of those nerdy fantasy fiction readers and have read all the books. It is one of my favorite series.

I go days without turning on a tv (after the college bball season is over), but subscribed to HBO for the series.

There is a ton of detail in the books, but all-in-all they have done a great job with the series.

And it only gets darker.......

[Jumpy]

Now, about the Finale: Complete crap...no resolution..no closure to any storyline. That being said, I'll be tuning next spring fopr sure.

There was no resolution because the season covered book one of five in the series. In truth, the books have no individual resolution either. It's more accurate to think of them as five excerpts of a massive, 5000+ page story.

[XUglow]

I watched and loved it. Got all of my extended family hooked on the series. I am also reading the books - a lot of characters, a lot of plot lines, a lot of possible directions, no predictable outcomes, huge twists when you least expect them. Good stuff.

[Muskie]

Damn it... more books to read.

[SlimKibbles]

Just finished reading book 4 this week. All I can say is I can't wait to see book 3 on tv...and the reactions of those who are just watching the tv series and haven't read the books. That was outstanding. Debating when to start reading A Dance With Dragons. Maybe after season 2 next spring when the paperback comes out.

[Nigel Tufnel]

I'm nearing the end of book 3. The books can be a little slow, but with Martin's attention to detail and the amount of characters in the books, it would be impossible to not have some slow parts. You'll be plodding along and then, all of a sudden, boom! boom! boom! Out of nowhere, crazy stuff happens without much of a build up. Several times I've gone back and reread certain parts because huge twists seemingly happen out of nowhere. Martin has a good nack for catching his readers off guard.

My buddy and I are convinced that when George Martin was a little kid, he must have been mercilessly picked on by a bully named Ned Stark.

Very entertaining books.

[LyonsIsFlyin]

I'm nearing the end of book 3. The books can be a little slow, but with Martin's attention to detail and the amount of characters in the books, it would be impossible to not have some slow parts. You'll be plodding along and then, all of a sudden, boom! boom! boom! Out of nowhere, crazy stuff happens without much of a build up. Several times I've gone back and reread certain parts because huge twists seemingly happen out of nowhere. Martin has a good nack for catching his readers off guard.

My buddy and I are convinced that when George Martin was a little kid, he must have been mercilessly picked on by a bully named Ned Stark.

Very entertaining books.

Love the comment on the bullying, me and my friends have said the same thing, along with the obvious fact he is a full blown hippie(anyone who takes the time to say hempen rope instead of just rope is in my opinion). Book 4 is by far the slowest book of them all though, took me well over a month to get through it. The whole time I couldn't help but think it was just filler or Martin was taking the story farther than he intended, but A Dance With Dragons disproves that with the craziness that it is.

[Muskie]

Just started in last night on the first book. Very good so far.

[ThrowDownDBrown]

There was no resolution because the season covered book one of five in the series. In truth, the books have no individual resolution either. It's more accurate to think of them as five excerpts of a massive, 5000+ page story.

There is going to be 7 in the series but with how long it has taken Martin to get out the last couple of books the 7th book won't be out for another 10 years

[xu95]

Just started in last night on the first book. Very good so far.

I can't read them, but I do listen to them on tape on the way to work. I am on book 3 right now.

xu95

[ballyhoohoo]

I can't read

xu95

Maybe to save us money Muskie can have a conf call and read to those interested on our commutes

[xu95]

I knew somebody would do that. I should have said, I can't read those books because of the languages they use.

xu95

[XUglow]

I need book 6 now, but I expect that it will be another 5 years before we see it.

From what I understand, the guy cannot stop writing and has a tough time editing his work. The 5,000 pages in books 1 through 5 have been cut down from more than 30,000 pages he has written that he thought were book worthy. I would like to know what has been cut out, but with his style, I imagine there were times where he devoted 14 pages on how they learned to forge Valyrian steel swords or 20 pages on the construction of The Eyrie. He does like detail.

[Muskie]

Maybe to save us money Muskie can have a conf call and read to those interested on our commutes

Only if I can charge 1.99 per minute.

How were my seats?

[ballyhoohoo]

Only if I can charge 1.99 per minute.

How were my seats?

A lot more high rent then my normal seats, I'm not sure about the neighbors though!

[Muskie]

A lot more high rent then my normal seats, I'm not sure about the neighbors though!

Yeah the guy behind me is pretty obnoxious. Never fear I'll whip him into shape Friday night.

[Jumpy]

I need book 6 now, but I expect that it will be another 5 years before we see it.

From what I understand, the guy cannot stop writing and has a tough time editing his work. The 5,000 pages in books 1 through 5 have been cut down from more than 30,000 pages he has written that he thought were book worthy. I would like to know what has been cut out, but with his style, I imagine there were times where he devoted 14 pages on how they learned to forge Valyrian steel swords or 20 pages on the construction of The Eyrie. He does like detail.

That's craziness. When I started reading the books early this year, I was told that there would be five of them and the fifth was releasing this year. I don't like taking on series until their finished because I can't stand the wait in between books. I feel blindsided by the person who has gotten me hooked.

I remember reading Stephen King's Dark Tower series in college. I started when the fourth book was released in '97 and had to wait until 2004 for the final book to come out. The original first published in '82. At the rate that things are going, Martin is pushing King for the record of longest wait ever.

[Muskie]

I guess I'll start reading slower then... (i'm 90 pages in to the first one).

[XUglow]

I guess I'll start reading slower then... (i'm 90 pages in to the first one).

Only 4,910 pages to go before Book 6 comes out! It's addictive though. It was a daily part of my life for quite a while.

[Muskie]

I really like the chapters being from the perspective of the character covered in that chapter. It works very well.

[Pablo's Brother]

Got hooked by HBO’s miniseries. Finished book five (A Dance with Dragons) about a month ago. Liked the entire series and look forward to book six whenever it comes out. Martin has a very vivid imagination. Read only if you like intricate plots, surprising twists and escapism. FYI, there are NO discussions about Xavier basketball or the upcoming conference realignment!

[LyonsIsFlyin]

I really like the chapters being from the perspective of the character covered in that chapter. It works very well.

The perspective and the detail Martin uses makes this series for sure, but sucks for me because I get so attached to the characters. Arya forever!

Also, I was told there were only going to be 5 books when I started, so when it became apparent that was not the case, I went searching for answers and came upon http://asoiaf.westeros.org/ this place is the locale for the most die-hard and they'll answer anything you need to know, but be careful if you're still reading, obviously filled with spoilers in certain threads.

[ballyhoohoo]

Who's watching?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Who's watching?

This guy! Ready for some dragons!

[PM Thor]

Why do they pack so many good shows into one night? I had Shameless, then Game of Thrones then The Walking Dead...didn't even get to Californication yet...

[Porkopolis]

Great episode as always. We looked at each other when the credits rolled and sighed that another great hour had passed. Then I poured some more bourbon and watched The Walking Dead.

[rove02]

Why do they pack so many good shows into one night? I had Shameless, then Game of Thrones then The Walking Dead...didn't even get to Californication yet...

Unfortunately Walking Dead is over for a while now and Shameless, Californication, House of Lies only have one more episode. So it will only be Game of Thrones soon.

[Smails]

Love GOT...it helps me channel my inner dork so I've been told. I tried to explain to a friend of mine that I don't really like the Middle Earth type stuff, but I really like Game of Thrones..paraphrasing our conversation

Me: It's not like Lord of the Rings.. and all that nerdy stuff
Friend: Are the Kingdoms?
Me: Yes
Friend: Giants and Dwarfs?
Me: Yes
Friend: Witches and perhaps a dragon?
Me: Well yes...but
Friend: And what about people who turn into other things..
Me: Ok fine, but there is a ton of T&A, whores, violence and the writing is off the hook
Friend: Just stop it.

[UCGRAD4X]

Got HBO free when I switched carriers...got Game of Thrones online and caught up in one week. All I have to say is....

If it ain't Valerian, it ain't shit!

[Nigel Tufnel]

Well, what did everyone think of last night's episode? As someone who has read the books, I thought the director did a great job of pulling off the Red Wedding. My wife, who hasn't read the books, was completely shocked. Google "Red Wedding reactions" for some great videos by book readers who watched last night's episode with non book readers. Hilarious stuff.

Here is one such link...go down to the compilation. Funny.

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/06/game-of-thrones-recap-red-wedding/

A lot of the reaction from people was similar to what happened at the end of Season 1 with Ned.

[BBC 08]

GoT is three for three with their penultimate episodes.

[SixFig]

It was well done, although I thought they would have the band playing "Rains of Castamere" while the slaughter was happening. That would have made it extra haunting...the murderous soundtrack so to speak.

Some are complaining (mostly non-wizards...hrphhm...people who don't read the books) that it was too violent. How else did they expect a bloody betrayal to go?

[BBC 08]

They had them playing it to signify to the start of the slaughter which is equally as haunting.

[SixFig]

Season 3 was the best yet. I can't imagine any actors being more spot on in their roles that these.

I don't watch much TV but I have to imagine the Emmy chances are pretty good. They will face the usual strong competition from Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Homeland and the like. Still it deserves consideration.

Individual awards will be tougher to go by. How can you single out any one as being "Best Supporting" when in fact they all were and there was no "lead actor" per se or even any actor who got the Lannister's share of screen time?

In case you haven't noticed, I haven't been this invested in a TV show since Lost. GOT had me at the title sequence from episode 1.

[bobbiemcgee]

Perhaps the most powerful war negotiating phrase of all time:

"I have Dragons."

[Porkopolis]

I'm really looking forward to the new season. Knowing it is on tonight has made this lousy stomach bug much more tolerable.

[PM Thor]

I'm really looking forward to the new season. Knowing it is on tonight has made this lousy stomach bug much more tolerable.

Et tu Pork? Came down with severe stomach cramps, nausea etc...halfway through the day on Friday, haven't eaten a real meal since, only had 1/2 cup of rice in 2 1/2 days. I've never had something like this before. It's horrible.

But Game of Thrones is back. I can't wait.

[MADXSTER]

It is not on Netflicks, bummer

[XUOWNSUC]

Free Preview weekend on Directv - I'll have all 31 episodes on my DVR by tonight!

[bobbiemcgee]

Everything was free on Comcast Watchathon this week. Binge TV.

[LadyMuskie]

It is not on Netflicks, bummer

Do one of the following: Borrow from the library once the dvds come out, buy the dvds yourself or find a friend with HBO and use their HBOGo account.

I'm not going to say which ones we do, but it's not the first one.

[Ledgewood]

I can't believe The Undertaker lost The Game of Thrones last night...

Wait, I think I got my twitter mixed up....

[SlimKibbles]

Oh hell yes. Great episode!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Oh hell yes. Great episode!

Holy Shit. Love it.

[XUFan09]

Having read the books, it was great watching that episode with people who hadn't yet. It was like reliving the joy.

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[SlimKibbles]

Having read the books, it was great watching that episode with people who hadn't yet. It was like reliving the joy.

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I was so looking forward to that after reading it in the book. Can't wait to see how they show the other things that happen later.

[Porkopolis]

I'm intentionally staying behind the tv series in the books. So last night was a complete surprise. My wife and I were actually cheering like it was the Final Four we were so excited.

[PM Thor]

How many books in the series anyway? I want to read them, but don't want to ruin the series by getting ahead in the books.

And that death was just awesome. He could have used an epi pen.

[XUFan09]

Five books out now, and there should be 7 total.

Season 4 on HBO chronicles the last third of book 3 and parts of books 4 and 5. They're able to cover both 4 and 5 because those books are on the same chronology, just with different storylines.

[OH.X.MI]

How many books in the series anyway? I want to read them, but don't want to ruin the series by getting ahead in the books.

And that death was just awesome. He could have used an epi pen.

He has written 5 so far. I read them all after I watched season one when it first aired and really wish I hadn't. I love the books, but the excitement of the show was kind of taken away once I knew what would happen.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Haven't watched The Purple Wedding yet. Wife missed the first episode on vacation in West Palm Beach last weekend while I stayed here and worked. I promised her I'd let her get caught up before we watched episode 2. Only reason I did it was to watch her reaction. Her reaction to the Red Wedding was hilarious. All the hype from last night's show reminded me of how great The National did with Rains of Castamere. One of my favorite bands playing this song in a great show...amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozVcbIc5yWI

And then a live version....would have loved to have been at this show...only time they've played it live....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0QMjoTyDVI

This season will be fantastic....but I'm still wondering how HBO is going to handle Book 4 and 5. Not spoiling anything here...but Arya and Tyrion aren't in Book 4 at all. Tons of new characters. I liked Book 4...not close to my favorite....but I liked it more than Book 5. Nothing happened. HBO is going to catch up to Martin really quickly. What happens then? Do they take creative license? TV audiences won't go for waiting 5 years between seasons. Plus, I think they might have to make Books 4 and 5 into 3 seasons. Not enough happens to make them any longer for tv audiences. I've also heard Martin may now make it
8 books. How is this going to work?

[XUFan09]

Supposedly Martin will have book 6 out next year, which should provide more material. If 4 and 5 get split up between this season and the next two, the material from Book 6 won't make it onto the screen until 2017.

[Muskie]

I need to get back into the books. The Red Wedding posted me off when I was reading and I had to take a break. Sadly now id probably need to start over to remember all the characters. Damn you George R R Martin.

[Muskie]

Supposedly Martin will have book 6 out next year, which should provide more material. If 4 and 5 get split up between this season and the next two, the material from Book 6 won't make it onto the screen until 2017.

I was told at one point that the HBO show diverges from the books. Without revealing what they are, would you say that's the case?

[BMoreX]

Nigel, I think they'll just combine books four and five into a season. There's no way they go a season without some of the big characters.

Even Martin himself has admitted dividing the books that way was a mistake.

[ballyhoohoo]

Don't books four and five run chronologically at the same time? Just different story lines?

Since season four is book three, could you get two or three season from book four and five (inter weave the books since the happen at the same time)

Book six is 2018 season. Then we have to wait for seven, or make six two seasons?

[BMoreX]

Don't books four and five run chronologically at the same time? Just different story lines?

Since season four is book three, could you get two or three season from book four and five (inter weave the books since the happen at the same time)

Book six is 2018 season. Then we have to wait for seven, or make six two seasons?

Yeah books 4 and 5 are going on at the same time. But some 4/5 storylines are already being used this season, so I think they can get a max 1.5 seasons of Feast/Dance after this season.

George just needs to write faster otherwise the show will outpace him.

[ballyhoohoo]

Yeah books 4 and 5 are going on at the same time. But some 4/5 storylines are already being used this season, so I think they can get a max 1.5 seasons of Feast/Dance after this season.

George just needs to write faster otherwise the show will outpace him.

From the looks of George he doesn't do much fast other then eating

[RealDeal]

I was told at one point that the HBO show diverges from the books. Without revealing what they are, would you say that's the case?

Not in any major way, IMO.

[XUFan09]

Not in any major way, IMO.

Yeah, it's more just a different way of telling the same story, though I think there might be more divergence in the near future.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Nigel, I think they'll just combine books four and five into a season. There's no way they go a season without some of the big characters.

Even Martin himself has admitted dividing the books that way was a mistake.

Therein lies the problem. If Books 4 and 5 are only 1 or 2 seasons, then Book 6 comes out and that's one or two seasons....Martin won't be close to finalizing Book 7 at that point. I just don't think its plausible seeing as how it usually takes him 5 years between books.

One major difference between the books and show was the fate of Robb's wife at the Red Wedding. Oh...and his wife was a completely difference woman in the books....and she wasn't at the Red Wedding. And there are hints in the book that she may or may not have been whisked away to safety by the people of the North and that she may pregnant.

[XUFan09]

Therein lies the problem. If Books 4 and 5 are only 1 or 2 seasons, then Book 6 comes out and that's one or two seasons....Martin won't be close to finalizing Book 7 at that point. I just don't think its plausible seeing as how it usually takes him 5 years between books.

One major difference between the books and show was the fate of Robb's wife at the Red Wedding. Oh...and his wife was a completely difference woman in the books....and she wasn't at the Red Wedding. And there are hints in the book that she may or may not have been whisked away to safety by the people of the North and that she may pregnant.

Yeah, this is one of the biggest differences, and it will be interesting to see what happens in the books. There's another character that is presented completely differently in the show, making that character's future actions (as told by the book) less believable. We'll have to see how they run out that storyline in the show. There are a few cases like this, where a character's personality/character isn't the same, but this one stands out. Sorry, I have to be cryptic for those who haven't read the books, but maybe book-readers know which character I'm talking about.

[XUOWNSUC]

It was nice seeing the Purple wedding - great episode!

The next three people on my "hit list" would be:

Walder Frey
Sir Meryn Trant
Ramsay Snow

Can't wait for those guys to bite the bullet.

[LadyMuskie]

Therein lies the problem. If Books 4 and 5 are only 1 or 2 seasons, then Book 6 comes out and that's one or two seasons....Martin won't be close to finalizing Book 7 at that point. I just don't think its plausible seeing as how it usually takes him 5 years between books.

.

Martin has supposedly told the show-runners what will happen in Book 7 - as to who is ultimately alive and in control, etc. - in case he dies. So, in theory, even if he doesn't get Book 7 done in time, the show-runners can still use what they know to complete the show correctly.

[SlimKibbles]

It was nice seeing the Purple wedding - great episode!

The next three people on my "hit list" would be:

Walder Frey
Sir Meryn Trant
Ramsay Snow

Can't wait for those guys to bite the bullet.

That dude is farking crazy. He's worse in the books and I haven't even read book 5 yet.

[XUFan09]

That dude is farking crazy. He's worse in the books and I haven't even read book 5 yet.

I agree, though he's portrayed exceptionally well in the show. That scene where they hunt one of the girls that messed around with Theon because the other girl was jealous? Holy shit. By the way, what's not highlighted is how F'ed up the jealous girl is, to enjoy pursuing in that hunt with Ramsay.

By the way, for how crazy Ramsay is, it's interesting to see how concerned he is with pleasing his father, Roose Bolton. I know part of his motivation is being legitimized as a son of Roose, as he is a bastard, but still...Crazy killer + eager-to-please son

[XUFan09]

http://observer.com/2014/04/westeros-explainer-the-7-questions-you-had-about-game-of-thrones-4x2/

"the fun of the show is identifying with the most cold-blooded of killers because of their daddy issues." Perfect.

[blobfan]

Martin has supposedly told the show-runners what will happen in Book 7 - as to who is ultimately alive and in control, etc. - in case he dies. So, in theory, even if he doesn't get Book 7 done in time, the show-runners can still use what they know to complete the show correctly.
I'm going to sleep a little better at night knowing that. I hate starting a series that the creator isn't able to finish. Even when someone else steps in and does the job well, it doesn't quite feel true.

I agree, though he's portrayed exceptionally well in the show. That scene where they hunt one of the girls that messed around with Theon because the other girl was jealous? Holy shit. By the way, what's not highlighted is how F'ed up the jealous girl is, to enjoy pursuing in that hunt with Ramsay.

By the way, for how crazy Ramsay is, it's interesting to see how concerned he is with pleasing his father, Roose Bolton. I know part of his motivation is being legitimized as a son of Roose, as he is a bastard, but still...Crazy killer + eager-to-please son

Theon might be at the top of my hit list. The others seem to have been born into their brutality whereas Theon was taken from that and grew up in a more peaceful, accepting environment. He then CHOSE to betray that, in a most cowardly way. He's getting what he deserves but I'd like to see him dead before he can create more mischief.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Ok...so the wife got caught up and we watched The Purple Wedding episode tonight. Great episode. The acting was amazing....Jamie, Cersei, Brianne, Margery, The Queen of Thorns, Tywin, Tyrion...and of obviously Joffrey. Wow. That was good stuff.

Anyone notice that the band playing Rains of Castamere was Sigur Ros? Even though it is obnoxious that the guy takes so long to write a book, gotta give RR Martin credit. He wrote a song for a fantasy book. The books became a show. That show has had The National and now Sigur Ros agreeing to perform this made up song...and Sigur Ros appeared in an episode. Amazing. Those are 2 seriously indie music heavy weights. Props to George RR Martin.

Here are both versions....which is better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MAysiWZak8

I'm biased....but I like home town boys' version better. Both are completely amazing. I like the more sober version of The National....but like I said, I'm biased.

[OH.X.MI]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho9_wAcOxWs

HBO has a bunch of these commercials for all of their shows, hilarious marketing.

[ballyhoohoo]

Wow, Baelish has become a power player

[nuts4xu]

Wow, Baelish has become a power player

The battle of the Mountain and Prince Oberyn will be epic. If the prince doesn't kill him, The Hound or Arya may kill him instead.

Lots of questions still to be answered in the last 3 eps of this season. What a great friggin show!

[Nigel Tufnel]

Well, last night was a pretty great episode. The fight scene between The Red Viper and the Mountain was very well done...and GRUESOME!! While the shows have been going in a lot of different directions than the books, the big storyline scenes in the series (Ned, The Battle of Blackwater, Red Wedding, Purple Wedding and Viper v. Mountain) have been pretty much dead on the books.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Holy, shit. Crazy. You could just sense that coming when he was dancing around him like that not finishing him off. Ugh. Crazy.

[Porkopolis]

What an incredible episode. Every week now I pretty much expect to say that. One of the best tv series in a long time.

[SlimKibbles]

Last night was a great episode. Next week is a big one too. Having read the books (well all but ADWD) I'm eager, and curious, to find out what they'll show in the last two episodes and what will be saved for next season.

[blobfan]

Well, last night was a pretty great episode. The fight scene between The Red Viper and the Mountain was very well done...and GRUESOME!! While the shows have been going in a lot of different directions than the books, the big storyline scenes in the series (Ned, The Battle of Blackwater, Red Wedding, Purple Wedding and Viper v. Mountain) have been pretty much dead on the books.

They are reworking some of the characters though. I'm interested to see how things play out over the next couple seasons but the show is moving much fast than the books. They are going to have to take time off if Martin takes as long to write the last book as he is this one.

[mohr5150]

That....was....ridiculous.

[XUFan09]

They are reworking some of the characters though. I'm interested to see how things play out over the next couple seasons but the show is moving much fast than the books. They are going to have to take time off if Martin takes as long to write the last book as he is this one.

Well, they took two seasons to cover book 3, so that at least slowed them down a bit. I'm curious to see how they approach books 4 and 5. The next season will probably come up next spring, and hopefully book 6 is done by then like it's supposed to be.

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[blobfan]

Well, they took two seasons to cover book 3, so that at least slowed them down a bit. I'm curious to see how they approach books 4 and 5. The next season will probably come up next spring, and hopefully book 6 is done by then like it's supposed to be.

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Really? It's been about 2 years since I read the books but I feel like they've moved into a few things from book 4 already. Maybe that's just old age creeping in.

[XUFan09]

A few things, but they are still mostly in book 3.

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[SlimKibbles]

Really? It's been about 2 years since I read the books but I feel like they've moved into a few things from book 4 already. Maybe that's just old age creeping in.


A few things, but they are still mostly in book 3.

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I haven't finished ADWD (book 5) yet bet there have been a few things even taken from there this season. Next season they are casting a bunch of new characters from book 4. My guess is, next season they'll finish up book 3 in the first few episodes and then rest of the time on 4 and 5. The season after that will probably be more 4 and 5. Just a guess though. Lots of material in 4 and 5.

[BMoreX]

I think they're going to be mostly done with book 4/5 in season 5. Were already there with Bran and Sansa. Besides introducing the Iron Islands, Dorne, and Griff plots, there isn't much action. There's a lot of internal monologue from Jaime, Cersei, etc.

[XUFan09]

I think they're going to be mostly done with book 4/5 in season 5. Were already there with Bran and Sansa. Besides introducing the Iron Islands, Dorne, and Griff plots, there isn't much action. There's a lot of internal monologue from Jaime, Cersei, etc.

I forgot how much internal monologue there was. That will definitely lead to cutting down on what is transferred from the books. Maybe a short monologue to another character at times in order to convey what they're feeling.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Well....what did everyone think of Season 5? Stayed close to books with Arya, Dany,Jon Snow and Cersei. Went off the rails with Jamie, Sansa, Boltons and Stannis. There were some things I hated about this season (Sand Snakes so bad in show but good in books). Liked Hardhomme even though it wasn't in the books. Thought the Tyrion/Dany meet was good, but anti-climactic. Guess that's because I read 4,000 pages of the books and it hasn't happened yet.

Will be interesting to see which direction they take the Jon Snow storyline. i will say it was my least favorite season. Worst CGI I've ever seen on Cersei's walk. Tyrion's facial expressions when seeing Drogon were priceless.

[MuskieCinci]

You could count the number of good things that fans enjoyed this season on one hand. And then every single good thing that happened that I was excited to see was quickly met with huge negative repercussions (Jon teaming up with Wildlings, Arya and Meryn Trant, Stannis becoming likeable and close with his daughter, etc.). All I know is fuck Olly.

[D-West & PO-Z]

All I know is fuck Olly.

Ha, this.

[PM Thor]

I don't know why I get surprised when GoT does what they do. Drives me crazy, and I fall for it over and over. It's like they are sadists, developing characters to where they are integral pieces to the most interesting storylines in the show, then they go "Game of Thrones" on them. It's getting kind of old for me, actually.

[SixFig]

I tend to lay blame for this season's faults squarely on GRRM for not keeping pace. Without detailed source material for events beyond "Dance of Dragons" the showrunner basically had to end with every cliffhanger (or cliff jumper) from that book. It felt both slow and rushed at different points, all in an effort to draw basically even with the books.

And yes we will see a certain dead protagonist again, maybe not in season 6.

[XUFan09]

I tend to lay blame for this season's faults squarely on GRRM for not keeping pace. Without detailed source material for events beyond "Dance of Dragons" the showrunner basically had to end with every cliffhanger (or cliff jumper) from that book. It felt both slow and rushed at different points, all in an effort to draw basically even with the books.

And yes we will see a certain dead protagonist again, maybe not in season 6.

Yep, that was the real issue. Frankly, books 4 and 5 aren't that good in comparison, and both D&D (the directors) and Martin realized they needed to be truncated. Book 3 encompasses all of season 3 and a good part of season 4, while books 4 and 5 together cover part of season 4 and all of season 5.

As frustrating as this season has been at times, though, I've become tired of reading A Forum of Ice and Fire. So many howl bloody murder whenever D&D move beyond the source material. "That character never would do that! Martin has to be pissed; let me project my own extreme opinions on to my interpretation of his blog posts to prove it." This occurred particularly with Stannis, who had his over-the-top fans who failed to acknowledge his previous monstrosities and believe that the most recent one won't happen in the books. Ugh, just stupid; D&D have access to Martin and his early manuscripts.

I know the dates keep getting pushed back on the book release, but Winds of Winter should come out before season 6, which will helpful. Also, things will really start to precipitate now for some more fun.

Sidenote: I liked that they combined the Sansa storyline with the Jeyne Poole one, as it adds more emotional pull to Theon's storyline while developing Sansa as a stronger person in the face of awful experiences.

[XUFan09]

And yes we will see a certain dead protagonist again, maybe not in season 6.

I hear that.

[kyxu]

This was certainly not the best season of GoT, but mostly because the bar is so high. This season was still better than 95% of the stuff on television.

[PM Thor]

I tend to lay blame for this season's faults squarely on GRRM for not keeping pace. Without detailed source material for events beyond "Dance of Dragons" the showrunner basically had to end with every cliffhanger (or cliff jumper) from that book. It felt both slow and rushed at different points, all in an effort to draw basically even with the books.

And yes we will see a certain dead protagonist again, maybe not in season 6.

Without reading the books, I'm about 99% sure I know of whom you wrote.

[XU Cowbell Kid]

Without reading the books, I'm about 99% sure I know of whom you wrote.

Actually, the show ended pretty much where the book did on this one. It is just a theory that this person will come back. But the theory is actually pretty awesome if you want to go out and look it up. I'm guessing the theory may not be as apparent to the people that only watch the show because Martin has been dropping small clues in the books that wouldn't show up in the show. But if this theory is true (and I like to believe it is), this person's story line is far from over.

[XUFan09]

Actually, the show ended pretty much where the book did on this one. It is just a theory that this person will come back. But the theory is actually pretty awesome if you want to go out and look it up. I'm guessing the theory may not be as apparent to the people that only watch the show because Martin has been dropping small clues in the books that wouldn't show up in the show. But if this theory is true (and I like to believe it is), this person's story line is far from over.

Yeah, they haven't set it up as much in the show. It's hard to drop those clues subtly in the TV format, as opposed to thousands of pages in a set of books.

[nuts4xu]

I forgot how much internal monologue there was. That will definitely lead to cutting down on what is transferred from the books. Maybe a short monologue to another character at times in order to convey what they're feeling.


Yeah, they haven't set it up as much in the show. It's hard to drop those clues subtly in the TV format, as opposed to thousands of pages in a set of books.

I haven't read the books, and don't follow the message boards...so I often get mixed up on the characters. What has happened to the crippled kid that was being carted around in previous seasons? I didn't see him at al, in this last season and don't remember him being killed?

This season didn't have the best storylines, but the ending was awesome. I didn't see that coming and I hate having to wait a full year to seethe next episode. Still enjoys the hell out of this show.

The scene where the queen took the walk of shame through the streets butt ass naked was one of my faves. I'm a big fan of full frontal nudity, even if the woman has a bush like they used to sport in the 1970's.

[XUFan09]

I haven't read the books, and don't follow the message boards...so I often get mixed up on the characters. What has happened to the crippled kid that was being carted around in previous seasons? I didn't see him at al, in this last season and don't remember him being killed?

This season didn't have the best storylines, but the ending was awesome. I didn't see that coming and I hate having to wait a full year to seethe next episode. Still enjoys the hell out of this show.

The scene where the queen took the walk of shame through the streets butt ass naked was one of my faves. I'm a big fan of full frontal nudity, even if the woman has a bush like they used to sport in the 1970's.
Bran is still alive, but they took a season off with him, probably to condense his (very important) storyline.

[X-band '01]

The scene where the queen took the walk of shame through the streets butt ass naked was one of my faves. I'm a big fan of full frontal nudity, even if the woman has a bush like they used to sport in the 1970's.

No doubt inspired by the Oral Roberts pregame ceremony in 2011.

#ShameShameShame

[D-West & PO-Z]

Just a fun fact, that was a body double not Lena Headey.

[XUFan09]

Just a fun fact, that was a body double not Lena Headey.
Yup. Apparently she wanted to focus on her facial reactions as she slowly broke down (I have to say, she did really well with that). What's funny is that Headey actually has done nude scenes before in other shows, while her body double had not.

[blobfan]

Yup. Apparently she wanted to focus on her facial reactions as she slowly broke down (I have to say, she did really well with that). What's funny is that Headey actually has done nude scenes before in other shows, while her body double had not.

She's pregnant. The baby bump would have confused fans of the show.

[D-West & PO-Z]

She's pregnant. The baby bump would have confused fans of the show.

From what I've read that wasn't the reason.

[blobfan]

From what I've read that wasn't the reason.

Lena Headey hasn't said so but the timing works and several news outlets have reported it.