UD Fans - Delusional Can't Begin to Describe It

[xudash]

A low-key Sunday on a long weekend and a bad pang for anything Xavier basketball in May leads me to wonder into that funny farm that is known as UDPride.

I then read this:

"Where Philmore made his mistake is in accepting X's past success as being in stone for the future. Personally I do not think Mack is in the same category as Thadda and Sean Miller.

Mack went to the sweet sixteen with a transfer that fell in his lap. Last second heroics against Dayton at Cintas center making a trey to tie the game (because BG does not believe in fouling in that situation), a 25 point blowout at Dayton and again last second dumbness whereby UD got a technical practically handing X the game in the A-10 tourney and Mack was lucky he was not swept by the flyers that year.

Fast forward this year without Crawford they are one and done in the A-10 and in the NCAA tournaments.

I think we are closer than one may think and I like Archie's comment "I'm targeting Xavier..."

Time will see how all this plays out."

The bottom-line: he doesn't think Mack is a good enough coach to sustain Xavier's success. I didn't know that wishful thinking, or simple, pure stupidity was capable of generating such a post.

BTW, this post came in their thread about them losing Philmore to us.

What this poor bastard sees as the beginning of the end actually is an acceleration of sustained success, because of Mack.

Gentlemen, please always remember that we were lucky we weren't swept by UD a couple years ago. That was the year we beat them 2 out of 3.

[SixFig]

I thought of typing something along the lines of "Let's see...one and done in the NCAA tournament or one and done in the NIT?" but I think Xavier's expectations these next few years, especially next year, are much bigger than UD can dare to dream. If their squad of walkons led by Raccoon JR lose by less than 20pts to X I will be surprised.

[GuyFawkes38]

It's annoying how some college basketball fans only focus on the NCAA tourney.

Mack did a masterful job coaching last. Just ridiculous how awesome he did. There's a reason why Tennessee offered him millions.

In defense of UD fans, that post was an outlier. Most UD fans realize that Mack is a good coach.

[xuwin]

It's annoying how some college basketball fans only focus on the NCAA tourney.

Mack did a masterful job coaching last. Just ridiculous how awesome he did. There's a reason why Tennessee offered him millions.

In defense of UD fans, that post was an outlier. Most UD fans realize that Mack is a good coach.


Exactly. After losing Crawford, Redford and Martin I didn't think Xavier had a chance to even make the NCAA tournament this year and I'm usually an optimist. They made the tournament easily with a seriously depleted roster. That is to Mack's credit.

[DC Muskie]

You would think logic and reality would fall into Dayton fans laps like players seems to do for us.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

More gems from there:

"Not sure where info came from but heard it more than once...Dillard was best player on team this past season."

"JS transfering is addition by subtraction and I don't think it will take too long before KD makes all of us forget about that mess. In fact, as has been mentioned by others...CJ and PW should/could also benefit from playing with a talented PG that doesn't have an agenda."

[xuwin]

Xavier fans can be delusional too when faced with adversity.

[HuskyMuskie]

Xavier fans can be delusional too when faced with adversity.

If by "adversity," you mean losing one conference game and receiving a 6 seed in the NCAA tournament, only to play poorly and lose, you are correct.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

Some of my favorite blasts from the past:

"I can't wait for the Red and Blue game in 2010 either...especially if both JS and CW are on the same court. IF, IF, IF CW sticks around that's probably a preseason Top 15 team."
http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10993

"DDN: Dayton Lands Local Prize in Kavanaugh
Nice little article/opinion by Doug Harris. What a great get Kav seems to be."
http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6595

[Jumpy]

More gems from there:

"Not sure where info came from but heard it more than once...Dillard was best player on team this past season."

"JS transfering is addition by subtraction and I don't think it will take too long before KD makes all of us forget about that mess. In fact, as has been mentioned by others...CJ and PW should/could also benefit from playing with a talented PG that doesn't have an agenda."

What I'm about to say should really go in the pet peeves thread, but I really HATE how those inbreds use initials to talk about their players and coaches.

[DC Muskie]

Some of my favorite blasts from the past:

"I can't wait for the Red and Blue game in 2010 either...especially if both JS and CW are on the same court. IF, IF, IF CW sticks around that's probably a preseason Top 15 team."
http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10993

"DDN: Dayton Lands Local Prize in Kavanaugh
Nice little article/opinion by Doug Harris. What a great get Kav seems to be."
http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6595

Wait a second...Dayton has three players who have "I" and "F" as their first and last name? Wow. Did not know that.

[paulxu]

More gems from there:

"Not sure where info came from but heard it more than once...Dillard was best player on team this past season."

I think Dillard is a transfer...sort of like Crawford was a transfer. So, anything he does, doesn't really count.

[X-band '01]

More gems from there:

"Not sure where info came from but heard it more than once...Dillard was best player on team this past season."

"JS transfering is addition by subtraction and I don't think it will take too long before KD makes all of us forget about that mess. In fact, as has been mentioned by others...CJ and PW should/could also benefit from playing with a talented PG that doesn't have an agenda."

Keith Dambrot? This is exactly why initials suck.

[XURunner85]

its June 1,2011 7:55PM and dayton still sucks....enough said...

[PMI]

I'm not really into going to other teams' message boards unless there's something drastic going on that's Xavier-related, but based on what I've seen of the daytonites, mostly from this board, the initial thing drives me nuts. I swear to God it's like reading Japanese sometimes, and what's most annoying is that if you are trying to decipher anything in the text, you have to stop, think, and translate initials to the names of whatever crappy dayton player they're referring to. The other thing that amazes me about it is that every single one of them do it. Every one of them. I understand you'll see an occasional JC for Jordan Crawford or LC for Lionel Chalmers around here, and I've probably done it myself, but with those guys, initials are the ONLY way they write a name. I mean how much more damn effort does it take to write "Chris Wright" than it does to write "CW?" It's lazy as shit, and given how irrelevant almost every name they initial is, it'd be easier reading Pig Latin half the time. It's so amateur, which is to say it is so dayton.

[DC Muskie]

I'm not really into going to other teams' message boards unless there's something drastic going on that's Xavier-related, but based on what I've seen of the daytonites, mostly from this board, the initial thing drives me nuts. I swear to God it's like reading Japanese sometimes, and what's most annoying is that if you are trying to decipher anything in the text, you have to stop, think, and translate initials to the names of whatever crappy dayton player they're referring to. The other thing that amazes me about it is that every single one of them do it. Every one of them. I understand you'll see an occasional JC for Jordan Crawford or LC for Lionel Chalmers around here, and I've probably done it myself, but with those guys, initials are the ONLY way they write a name. I mean how much more damn effort does it take to write "Chris Wright" than it does to write "CW?" It's lazy as shit, and given how irrelevant almost every name they initial is, it'd be easier reading Pig Latin half the time. It's so amateur, which is to say it is so dayton.

District of Columbia Muskie completely agrees with this post.

[RealDeal]

I'm not really into going to other teams' message boards unless there's something drastic going on that's Xavier-related, but based on what I've seen of the daytonites, mostly from this board, the initial thing drives me nuts. I swear to God it's like reading Japanese sometimes, and what's most annoying is that if you are trying to decipher anything in the text, you have to stop, think, and translate initials to the names of whatever crappy dayton player they're referring to. The other thing that amazes me about it is that every single one of them do it. Every one of them. I understand you'll see an occasional JC for Jordan Crawford or LC for Lionel Chalmers around here, and I've probably done it myself, but with those guys, initials are the ONLY way they write a name. I mean how much more damn effort does it take to write "Chris Wright" than it does to write "CW?" It's lazy as shit, and given how irrelevant almost every name they initial is, it'd be easier reading Pig Latin half the time. It's so amateur, which is to say it is so dayton.

It's so freaking gay.

[blobfan]

I'm not really into going to other teams' message boards unless there's something drastic going on that's Xavier-related, but based on what I've seen of the daytonites, mostly from this board, the initial thing drives me nuts. I swear to God it's like reading Japanese sometimes, and what's most annoying is that if you are trying to decipher anything in the text, you have to stop, think, and translate initials to the names of whatever crappy dayton player they're referring to. The other thing that amazes me about it is that every single one of them do it. Every one of them. I understand you'll see an occasional JC for Jordan Crawford or LC for Lionel Chalmers around here, and I've probably done it myself, but with those guys, initials are the ONLY way they write a name. I mean how much more damn effort does it take to write "Chris Wright" than it does to write "CW?" It's lazy as shit, and given how irrelevant almost every name they initial is, it'd be easier reading Pig Latin half the time. It's so amateur, which is to say it is so dayton.
I suspect the water up there produces some fans missing the requisite number of fingers to type, thus necessitating the abbreviations.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

In regards to a Kareem Canty thread

"seton, xavier and possibly others don't have the facilities we have, the ARena, and the fan base. So don't rule us out."

[DC Muskie]

In regards to a Kareem Canty thread

"seton, xavier and possibly others don't have the facilities we have, the ARena, and the fan base. So don't rule us out."

Good God.

[ThePowerOfX]

In regards to a Kareem Canty thread

"seton, xavier and possibly others don't have the facilities we have, the ARena, and the fan base. So don't rule us out."

The post before that one was even worse

"it takes a special kid to commit to Dayton. Let the Philmores of the world go to Eggzavier; if they think riding the bench next to Paleface Mack is their ticket to the NBA, so be it.

F##k Eggzavier -- we'll have their number soon enough."

[XUFan09]

The post before that one was even worse

"it takes a special kid to commit to Dayton. Let the Philmores of the world go to Eggzavier; if they think riding the bench next to Paleface Mack is their ticket to the NBA, so be it.

F##k Eggzavier -- we'll have their number soon enough."

I wonder how many years this guy has said this phrase...

[pimpinthebox]

I'm not really into going to other teams' message boards unless there's something drastic going on that's Xavier-related...

I'll admit that I do it fairly often and, trust me when I say that, by comparison, UD Pride is an absolute goldmine for unintentional comedy. Throw in the fact that the http://www.blackburnreview.com/ is downright comedy gold and you've got yourself a magical combo.

[xudash]

I'll admit that I do it fairly often and, trust me when I say that, by comparison, UD Pride is an absolute goldmine for unintentional comedy. Throw in the fact that the http://www.blackburnreview.com/ is downright comedy gold and you've got yourself a magical combo.

That's how I look at it. That combined with the fact that it is the off-season and those poor bastards are the best at being so delusional that the comedy flows freely and is free.

During the season, I'll only go over there after we beat them - it's pure gold at those points.

[HuskyMuskie]

Anybody else notice that Mr. Second Coming for dump fans, Chris Wright, was told to "go home" by NBA scouts and teams, yet Jamel McLean was told to stay and worked out for the Nets yesterday.

How funny it is.

:D

[Muskie]

I haven't thought too much about UD since March. Are they still thinking about us?

[Chermy23]

Anybody else notice that Mr. Second Coming for dump fans, Chris Wright, was told to "go home" by NBA scouts and teams, yet Jamel McLean was told to stay and worked out for the Nets yesterday.

How funny it is.

:D


Wow. I feel a little bad for CW. He had a ton of raw potential and BG never developed it. But hey, great news for Jamel.

[PMI]

Wow. I feel a little bad for CW. He had a ton of raw potential and BG never developed it. But hey, great news for Jamel.

Ugh. This is why you don't drink the water in dayton.

[ThePowerOfX]

The funniest thing about Wright is that some UDpriders still think he will be in the NBA next year. One person even went as far as to say that they hope he goes undrafted because then he can choose his situation and he could really thrive in a system with someone like Steve Nash at the PG position. I just dont understand where they come up with this stuff.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

After the Bellarmine game:

"At one point, we were told to fear Kenny Frease. That guy has been regressing since he stepped on campus down there."

"Without McLean they will be losing several ooc games. Without Redford and Martin they will be around .500 in A10 play."

"When are we scheduled to raise the A-10 champs banner now that X is out of the race?"

"I feel a sweep of the Mouseketeers coming this season!!! "

"2 points.

1 - MasonFlyer, exquisite craftsmanship.

2 - Glad that Bellarmine was able to do something that UD hasn't done in 30 years. I am enjoying the pain of the Muskies today, yet I temper that glee until UD does the same."

http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15602

[blobfan]

Ugh. This is why you don't drink the water in dayton.

I drove by the dump about a week ago and I swear I could smell watermelons. They must add it to the water to make it palatable. It explains why they continue to drink it in spite of the negative affect on brain cells and fingers.

[paulxu]

I drove by the dump about a week ago and I swear I could smell watermelons. They must add it to the water to make it palatable. It explains why they continue to drink it in spite of the negative affect on brain cells and fingers.

Oh...come on in. The water's fine.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4G2ptSlZZn0/SbQYTa-eiuI/AAAAAAAACPE/fo6WuaYa-kk/s400/swimming-in-watermelon.jpg

[blobfan]

Oh...come on in. The water's fine.


Thanks for the invite but as you can probably tell from my avatar, I've been doing a pretty good job of killing my brain cells this summer without the help of the ud water supply.

[GoMuskies]

2 - Glad that Bellarmine was able to do something that UD hasn't done in 30 years. I am enjoying the pain of the Muskies today, yet I temper that glee until UD does the same."[/I]
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Never thought about that aspect of Bellarmine winning that game. So, at least there was one positive to come from it: Bellarmine now joins the esteemed crowd including Southern Utah, Duquesne and LaSalle that have all won at Xavier since the last time Dayton managed to pull that off.

[X-band '01]

Oh...come on in. The water's fine.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4G2ptSlZZn0/SbQYTa-eiuI/AAAAAAAACPE/fo6WuaYa-kk/s400/swimming-in-watermelon.jpg

Passing through Cordele, GA today is going to make for nightmares tonight - what else do you expect from the self-proclaimed "Watermelon Capital of the World"?

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

Another tidbit from UDPride:

http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19156

"Walsh's 6'9" center Kornowski is probably one of the top five centers we will face all year. He finished with 30 points and 9 rebounds and has a superb touch around the basket."

-A rational UD fan responded with:

"No, he averaged 11 points as a Soph (That's DII NAIA), just shows how bad our inside D will likely be. OSU beat Walsh by about 50 last year."

[XBR1]

I was just driving down I75 today and saw a license plate that said "UDnfin4". Needless to say it was on a Camaro.

[SixFig]

I was just driving down I75 today and saw a license plate that said "UDnfin4". Needless to say it was on a Camaro.

Shoulda been "NITCHMPS"

[Cheesehead]

I was just driving down I75 today and saw a license plate that said "UDnfin4". Needless to say it was on a Camaro.

What is wrong w/ people? Seriously, why would ANY UD fan get that plate?

I could see if you were a UK, Duke, NC, Kansas, or UCLA fan but UD?

That is so absurd.

[More Cowbell]

http://www.udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20623

I am not a fan of the fat pantsless man. But I will be tomorrow.


Eggs must go to the NIT. The tide is about to be turned in our Death Feud, and nothing would be more fitting than to kick off the next phase in our rivalry with a Dayton win at MSG.

[DC Muskie]

My favorite Dayton game is reading how we lose all of these guys and therefore we will suck for the next decade.

Okay guys.

Also, I think it's funny about our NCAA chances. Xavier fans say we are in, national media called this a play-in game and Dayton fans think we will still end up in the NIT.

Who the hell knows. We are still playing and they are talking about next year.

[Masterofreality]

My favorite Dayton game is reading how we lose all of these guys and therefore we will suck for the next decade.

Okay guys.

Also, I think it's funny about our NCAA chances. Xavier fans say we are in, national media called this a play-in game and Dayton fans think we will still end up in the NIT.

Who the hell knows. We are still playing and they are talking about next year.

Xavier is playing.

udump is NIT-tting

[Cheesehead]

Is 3:29 p.m. on Sunday and UD still sucks!

[paulxu]

How sorry is it that on your main message board you start and follow a thread for Xavier v. Bonnie, cheering for a Muskie loss.

I mean, your life must really suck if you need to do something like that.

[DC Muskie]

How sorry is it that on your main message board you start and follow a thread for Xavier v. Bonnie, cheering for a Muskie loss.

I mean, your life must really suck if you need to do something like that.

I like how the word "class" and "classless" was thrown around. Oh and one fan told us to suck it.

Okay buddy. We will suck it to yet another NCAA appearance.

I think the average of UDPride is 79 years old.

[OTRMUSKIE]

This sums up Dayton pretty clearly I think.


If X gets in let's hope they come to UD so we can boo them! (Are we allowed to boo with the President there???)

[UCGRAD4X]

It is sad that the closest they can come to being X is seeing us play in the tourney in their building. Sadly, for them, this too will be a hopeless dream.

[X Factor]

Here is a classic delusion filled post from a UD fan on UDPride:

Posted by Avid Flyer:


Mack took a top 15 program predicted to be a final four team and barely made it into the NCAA tournament. Dayton choked in the final minutes of play as did ND allowing X to get to the sweet 16. In my personal opinion Mack is not made from the same pedigree as his predecessors and will falter. His success was in having a couple top transfers land in his lap.

Archie inherited a team with two players transferring out, two recruits reneging on their commitments and the loss of Benson and yet came within a couple points in dethroning X, won 20 games and despite the loss of JT has a very good nucleus coming in next year.

Bottom line Archie achieved more with far less and Mack achieved far less with a lot more. Future, advantage Archie and Dayton.

[ammtd34]

That is absolutely unbelievable.

First round NIT embarrassment > Yet another Sweet 16.

They have a strange way of measuring success in Dayton. Two players transfer? They hated Staten and Spearman averaged two points a game. I like how he fails to mention that their best player - by far - was a transfer.

[KingCole]

Dayton fans live in an alternate reality. Absolutely nothing that comes from a UD fan surprises me. We've been hearing how they've been passing Xavier for 20 years and they continue to fade away further in the rearview mirror. Their hatred for Xavier is purely jealousy over the success Xavier has had that they wish they were having. Their warped view points on their successes (failures) compared to Xavier are hysterical and I almost feel sorry for them. They are such an easy target it's like picking on your kid brother when you're growing up.

[Cheesehead]

May I just say, UD blows and it will always blow.

[HuskyMuskie]

Here is a hell of a gem from good 'ol UDPride, about expectations for the coming season:


Like innocent until proven guilty, I say undefeated until proven wrong. Why not a magical St Joe's 2003-4 27-0 season? (I'm not putting money on it, I just can't look at any Flyer's game expecting a loss.)

[nuts4xu]

Here is a hell of a gem from good 'ol UDPride, about expectations for the coming season:

Those people are f**ked in the head....

[xubrew]

Those people are f**ked in the head....

Either that or they're reclassifying to div2. 27-0.

Hmmm, maybe it's div3.

[X-band '01]

Maybe it's NAIA and their schedule will include Malone, Tiffin and Ohio Dominican.

[outsideobserver11]

Maybe it's NAIA and their schedule will include Malone, Tiffin and Ohio Dominican.

Actually Tiffin and Ohio Dominican are both Division 2 now, so Dayton wants no part of them.

[Dr. X]

Actually Tiffin and Ohio Dominican are both Division 2 now, so Dayton wants no part of them.

Maybe they saw "ODU" and got scared. And Tiffin has produced a couple of current NFL players, so that probably frightens them too.

[UCGRAD4X]

Maybe they saw "ODU" and got scared. And Tiffin has produced a couple of current NFL players, so that probably frightens them too.

They would only be scared if they were the least bit rational...or intelligent...which they are not...either.

[Dr. X]

They would only be scared if they were the least bit rational...or intelligent...which they are not...either.

Fear doesn't have to be rational, though. You can have rational, cognizant fear where you recognize a threat and intelligently plan to avoid it, or you can have the primal, gut reaction fear of threatening rustle moving through the grass or the things that go bump in the night.

[Smails]

Dayton basketball is truly the gift that keeps on giving

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GYfytVE7hh8/Tupuxvh5QoI/AAAAAAAAENQ/Tjb-ltTJIxE/s1600/Clark%2Band%2BEddie.jpg

[Strange Brew]

That's fine. I'm sure their epic undefeated run would in the same manner........with a severe beat down by the Flagship. I for one welcome it.