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American X
05-24-2011, 05:57 PM
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This is how President Obama signed the guestbook at Westminster Abbey earlier today: (http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/05/president_obama_has_no_idea_wh.html)

It is a great privilege to commemorate our common heritage, and common sacrifice.

Barack Obama

24 May 2008

xuvictory
05-24-2011, 06:05 PM
http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intel/2011/05/24/24_obamasig.o.jpg/a_560x375.jpg

This is how President Obama signed the guestbook at Westminster Abbey earlier today: (http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/05/president_obama_has_no_idea_wh.html)

It is a great privilege to commemorate our common heritage, and common sacrifice.

Barack Obama

24 May 2008

It is a good thing someone like Dan Quale or some other simpleton that was not adored by the media did not make this blunder. They would have been persecuted as the village idiot. Obama will receive a polite chuckle.

GreatWhiteNorth
05-24-2011, 06:13 PM
WOW ! The President is a time-traveller.

golfitup
05-24-2011, 07:08 PM
Who cares?

CinciX12
05-24-2011, 08:02 PM
Honestly we fight over the absolute dumbest shit anymore. Who the hell cares what he signed. I signed 2010 the other day. So do lots of other people.

LyonsIsFlyin
05-24-2011, 08:16 PM
I don't subscribe to either side of politics so I usually stay out of this, but I do have to say, if Bush had done this, it would have been a field day on the news about how dumb he is, thats a fact.

DC Muskie
05-24-2011, 09:22 PM
It is a good thing someone like Dan Quale or some other simpleton that was not adored by the media did not make this blunder. They would have been persecuted as the village idiot. Obama will receive a polite chuckle.

Did you write this on purpose?

What I really love about things like this is how the "media" would have reacted is something that never happened happened.

Fred Garvin 2.0
05-24-2011, 10:26 PM
Did you write this on purpose?

What I really love about things like this is how the "media" would have reacted is something that never happened happened.

What?

GuyFawkes38
05-24-2011, 10:30 PM
Honestly we fight over the absolute dumbest shit anymore. Who the hell cares what he signed. I signed 2010 the other day. So do lots of other people.

Signing something 2010 is much, much more understandable than 2008.

Very odd.

X Communicator
05-24-2011, 10:37 PM
It is a good thing someone like Dan Quale or some other simpleton that was not adored by the media did not make this blunder. They would have been persecuted as the village idiot...

The Pontiff is speechless.

Xman95
05-24-2011, 10:38 PM
WOW ! The President is a time-traveller.

How else would he have been able to travel to 57 states during his campaign?!? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws)

Titanxman04
05-24-2011, 11:13 PM
Dumb.

The public, be it America as a whole or even Xavier Hoops from time to time, gets all bent out of shape about something or another. Now grant it, not saying we're getting "bent out of shape" over the fact that the President had a brain fart... But seriously, who cares?

stophorseabuse
05-24-2011, 11:37 PM
The reason Bush got hammered on this is because his misspeaks were so common. Books are filled with comments about eating children and such. This is an easy error, the word eight could have just been said and his focus drifted. It happens.

ConfusedBulldog
05-24-2011, 11:49 PM
The reason Bush got hammered on this is because his misspeaks were so common. Books are filled with comments about eating children and such. This is an easy error, the word eight could have just been said and his focus drifted. It happens.

Biden might be the most tome-worthy person of this administration for quotes.

Either way, I can't wait to watch the Penn State Nittaly Lions take the field this fall :D

DC Muskie
05-25-2011, 09:08 AM
What?


It is a good thing someone like Dan Quale.

Dan Quale? Did he misspell his name on purpose?

I doubt it.

Muskied
05-25-2011, 09:23 AM
http://hypervocal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Obama-Guinness-Pic.png

This may have something to do with his time lapse.....but if Drinkin Guiness is Wrong, I don't want him to be Right

Jumpy
05-25-2011, 09:58 AM
This is a lot to do about nothing. For all we know, it could be an inside joke with someone he met on his tour.

drudy23
05-25-2011, 10:08 AM
http://hypervocal.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Obama-Guinness-Pic.png

This may have something to do with his time lapse.....but if Drinkin Guiness is Wrong, I don't want him to be Right

Do you think he finished it?

xuvictory
05-25-2011, 11:28 AM
Dan Quale? Did he misspell his name on purpose?

I doubt it.

Look, the guy's LEGACY is the he misspelled potato. The media made sure they associated him with this mistake. His politcal career was shot after it happened.

Snipe
05-25-2011, 01:46 PM
Who cares?

I do! Thanks for asking!

DC Muskie
05-25-2011, 02:25 PM
Look, the guy's LEGACY is the he misspelled potato. The media made sure they associated him with this mistake. His politcal career was shot after it happened.

Uhmmmm. If you actually truly believe that his political career was shot because people made fun of him for misspelling potato, then the guy must not have had a political career to begin with.

I mean the guy is more remembered for, "Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy, I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy."

He seemed to survive that one.

But please do not let you stop thinking that the media took down this amazing political career.

Emp
05-25-2011, 03:21 PM
What a gaffe! You would think the page before his might have provided some clues. Another "special olympics" moment for the prez.

Wish I could find some vid of his address in Westminster Hall. All that we have in terms of a model for democratic and representative government started in that place.

GuyFawkes38
05-25-2011, 03:31 PM
At the very least, there should be a congressional investigation. It would be funny and entertaining.

xuvictory
05-25-2011, 03:44 PM
Uhmmmm. If you actually truly believe that his political career was shot because people made fun of him for misspelling potato, then the guy must not have had a political career to begin with.

I mean the guy is more remembered for, "Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy, I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy."

He seemed to survive that one.

But please do not let you stop thinking that the media took down this amazing political career.

Yeah, I'd say he survived that - he was, after all, elected Vice President after Lloyd Benson's comment. Maybe it would be wise to agree to disagree on media coverage of politics. I don't think we will come to the same conclusion on this.
Peace!

DC Muskie
05-25-2011, 09:59 PM
Yeah, I'd say he survived that - he was, after all, elected Vice President after Lloyd Benson's comment. Maybe it would be wise to agree to disagree on media coverage of politics. I don't think we will come to the same conclusion on this.
Peace!

Yeah I would agree, since you think the media has such unyielding power to ruin Dan Quayle's political career.

I mean there is no possible way that there have been politicians who just couldn't rise to the level their office requires of them. It's all about media coverage of politics.

Cause you know, the media forced The Vice President of the United States to give a speech condemning a fictional character about moral character in current society.

I think we won't come to the same conclusion, because my conclusion is based on reality.

Peace to you my friend.

Snipe
05-26-2011, 11:27 AM
I do think that Dan Quayle's Potatoe moment is part of his legacy. It pops up on the Google autofill when you type in his name.

I also tend to agree with Danforth on single mothers. Single mothers are among the most reliable patrons of Democrats and the Welfare State. They are also one of the worst things that can happen to a child statistically.

Some people will remember 2008 or 57 States, but it isn't like the media is itching to make a potatoe moment out of it.

As for Obama, everyone has brain farts. You can't read too much into it but signing 2008 is just odd. Who does that?

I do think Republicans are more likely to be played for idiots in the media. I think there is bias. I also think the media at times have worshiped Obama's genius and intellectual acumen. I do think it is fair to say 'What if George Bush claimed he visited all 57 states", what if George signed 2008, joked about the Special Olympics or read the wrong speech off of a teleprompter and thanked himself for appearing.

People were calling Bush a stupid Chimp and claiming he was the biggest idiot that ever became Prez. Obama largely has continued most of the Bush policies only to add more spending. I don't see any substantive proof that he is any smarter than Bush. He is a better public speaker if you give him a teleprompter, but so are most weathermen.

If I could do one act of grand civil disobedience I would find a way to hack into his teleprompter and change some of the passages. I bet he would just read it.

Porkopolis
05-26-2011, 11:51 AM
Obama largely has continued most of the Bush policies only to add more spending.

That is painfully, painfully true. I can't get most of my fellow lefties to buy in to that thinking, though. They are blinded by Obama's eloquence.

DC Muskie
05-26-2011, 04:39 PM
I actually remain a fan of Dan Quayle. I always thought he was a quality guy. His potato moment was built over time where he demonstrated a serious lack of understanding on what he needed to portray as Vice President of the United States.

I agree with the substance of his Murphy Brown speech. However, he wasted it by using a fictional character on a popular show to make his point. That was just stupid.

In the 1992 election, HW Bush did not know that grocery stores had scanners to recognize the price of products people would buy. I thought it was silly that people would be so upset over the fact the president doesn't hang out in grocery stores couponing till his heart's content. I'm not sure that cost him the election, which in turn ended his political career. I'm pretty sure he did that by not taking Clinton seriously and thinking that James Baker could save his ass when he brought him in after Labor Day.

Bush made a very bold and strategic move by putting Quayle on his ticket. He was trying to move the party away from the Nixon/Dole/Bush legacy that had dominated the GOP for decades on the national ticket. However, he picked a guy who looked like he was twelve, proved time and time again he wasn't viewed as smart as someone who was actually twelve and lost. It's funny how eight years later, we ended up with his son, who isn't as close to as smart as his father.

People who want to spend time saying "What if George Bush had said this..." are just pissed at something to be pissed. There is no way to change their thinking. George would have been crucified if he said he visited 57 states. Okay. If the media held so much power, why is it we have only reelected one Democrat over the last 30 some odd years into the White House? Reagan got made fun of on a regular basis, and he seemed to have the last laugh. W Bush couldn't string together a sentence with four teleprompters and a flash light, and he served eight years. Obama has been in office for a little over two years and people think he gets too many passes for not making speeches about fictional characters. I'm nost sure I see the similarity. But then again, there is no way to reason with people who are unreasonable with their thought that somehow an industry so powerful, like the media, has demonstrated time and time again an inability to bring down powerful men, who simply reside in the other political party.

But it's a game to be played, and everyone needs a boogeyman.

xuvictory
05-26-2011, 05:34 PM
The reason there have not been more Democrats elected President over the past 30 years is that the U.S is roughly 50% consevative. So, despite most of the media being biased to the left, the influence of the media has not been reflected in many elections.

All of the independent studies showing positive/negative stories that are run by the networks: ABC, CBS, NBC, and the cable networks: CNN and MSNBC show that Democrat candidates have more positive coverage than negative and Republican candidates receive more negative than positive coverage. The one exception is Fox News. The statistics from the 2008 Presedential election, for example, bear this out.

DC Muskie
05-26-2011, 05:43 PM
The reason there have not been more Democrats elected President over the past 30 years is that the U.S is roughly 50% consevative. So, despite most of the media being biased to the left, the influence of the media has not been reflected in many elections.

Exactly. So why are you pissed about something that obviously has no effect in actually pissing you off in electing people that would piss you off? I really don't understand that.


All of the independent studies showing positive/negative stories that are run by the networks: ABC, CBS, NBC, and the cable networks: CNN and MSNBC show that Democrat candidates have more positive coverage than negative and Republican candidates receive more negative than positive coverage. The one exception is Fox News. The statistics from the 2008 Presedential election, for example, bear this out.

Networks are out to get ratings. They dump on elected officials regardless of parties. The people who voted for Obama, probably watch MSNBC than Fox, and MSNBC would be wise to hold onto those viewers by giving Democrats positive coverage, much like Fox would be wise to provide negative coverage.

It's really not rocket science. Networks are businesses. But in the end, the country remains more conservative, so I'm not sure why you think they are so influential.

xuvictory
05-26-2011, 06:20 PM
Okay, I am pissed off because I feel the job of the media is to report the facts without giving their own slant every 2 minutes. If their reporting is labeled as "commentary", then have at it.
I have just tired of the unfair and unbalanced journalism practiced by so many in the media. (and I'm not saying Fox is fair and balanced).

It is a sad day when the the National Enquirer is the ONLY outlet that would follow up well-known story of a Presidential candidate, John Edwards, having a lengthy affair and a love child. Nothing stopped the press from pursuing the truth with Gary Hart. I know this is scandal crap, but everything is fair game when you are running for Pres.

DC Muskie
05-26-2011, 10:43 PM
Okay, I am pissed off because I feel the job of the media is to report the facts without giving their own slant every 2 minutes. If their reporting is labeled as "commentary", then have at it.
I have just tired of the unfair and unbalanced journalism practiced by so many in the media. (and I'm not saying Fox is fair and balanced).

It is a sad day when the the National Enquirer is the ONLY outlet that would follow up well-known story of a Presidential candidate, John Edwards, having a lengthy affair and a love child. Nothing stopped the press from pursuing the truth with Gary Hart. I know this is scandal crap, but everything is fair game when you are running for Pres.

I don't know what to say, then. This is not some new phenomenon with the media. Read up on the Teapot Dome scandal and see the role the "media" had in that affair. They were right there where money exchanged hands. And that dealt with a GOP president with a well known story having multiple lengthy affairs with different and a love child. I mean when do you think the media started giving their slant of things?

Gary Hart challenged people about his affairs. And he got caught. He was the highest profile candidate at the time to challenge Reagan. He was a Democrat. How does that prove your point? How well known was Edwards affair? Were you exclusively in the loop on it?

Everyone has their own point of view and motivation. This just did not happen in say 1988.

Fred Garvin 2.0
05-26-2011, 11:32 PM
Yeah I would agree, since you think the media has such unyielding power to ruin Dan Quayle's political career.

I mean there is no possible way that there have been politicians who just couldn't rise to the level their office requires of them. It's all about media coverage of politics.

Cause you know, the media forced The Vice President of the United States to give a speech condemning a fictional character about moral character in current society.

I think we won't come to the same conclusion, because my conclusion is based on reality.

Peace to you my friend.

That's so weak. Why don't you condemn Clinton for his Sister Souljah moment? It's no different than scapegoating Murphy Brown. Also, I love you quoting Lloyd Bensten. DC Muskie, the "registered Repub" who adored "Farhenheit 9/11."

This just in: the oil and gas industry never had a better guardian than Lloyd Bentsen.

Fred Garvin 2.0
05-26-2011, 11:47 PM
I actually remain a fan of Dan Quayle. I always thought he was a quality guy. His potato moment was built over time where he demonstrated a serious lack of understanding on what he needed to portray as Vice President of the United States.

I agree with the substance of his Murphy Brown speech. However, he wasted it by using a fictional character on a popular show to make his point. That was just stupid.

In the 1992 election, HW Bush did not know that grocery stores had scanners to recognize the price of products people would buy. I thought it was silly that people would be so upset over the fact the president doesn't hang out in grocery stores couponing till his heart's content. I'm not sure that cost him the election, which in turn ended his political career. I'm pretty sure he did that by not taking Clinton seriously and thinking that James Baker could save his ass when he brought him in after Labor Day.

Bush made a very bold and strategic move by putting Quayle on his ticket. He was trying to move the party away from the Nixon/Dole/Bush legacy that had dominated the GOP for decades on the national ticket. However, he picked a guy who looked like he was twelve, proved time and time again he wasn't viewed as smart as someone who was actually twelve and lost. It's funny how eight years later, we ended up with his son, who isn't as close to as smart as his father.

People who want to spend time saying "What if George Bush had said this..." are just pissed at something to be pissed. There is no way to change their thinking. George would have been crucified if he said he visited 57 states. Okay. If the media held so much power, why is it we have only reelected one Democrat over the last 30 some odd years into the White House? Reagan got made fun of on a regular basis, and he seemed to have the last laugh. W Bush couldn't string together a sentence with four teleprompters and a flash light, and he served eight years. Obama has been in office for a little over two years and people think he gets too many passes for not making speeches about fictional characters. I'm nost sure I see the similarity. But then again, there is no way to reason with people who are unreasonable with their thought that somehow an industry so powerful, like the media, has demonstrated time and time again an inability to bring down powerful men, who simply reside in the other political party.
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But it's a game to be played, and everyone needs a boogeyman.

Insane. I musta imagined that entire Bush dui leak near the election. Also, intent and execution are two entirely different things. Dan Rather hates the Bush clan but he has helped get two of them elected: 1) he gave backbone to 41 when he faced Rather with the "what about you being off the air following the US Open" dustup. This on the heels of unbiased, according to DC MUskie, NEwsweek cover calling him a "wimp."

2.) the bogus Dubya national guard docs Dan sooo wanted to believe.

Also, DC Muskie must have missed the fine reporting of the NYT claiming John MCcain had a mistress. How come they weren't on the case of John Edwards?

DC Muskie
05-27-2011, 06:05 AM
That's so weak. Why don't you condemn Clinton for his Sister Souljah moment? It's no different than scapegoating Murphy Brown. Also, I love you quoting Lloyd Bensten. DC Muskie, the "registered Repub" who adored "Farhenheit 9/11."

This just in: the oil and gas industry never had a better guardian than Lloyd Bentsen.

What's your point here? That Sister Souljah and Murphy Brown are the same thing? Are you kidding me? SS said we should have a week of killing white people. That's the same thing as saying Murphy Brown is a poor example for single women? Okay.

You understand one is a real person and another one isn't right?

And for some reason you think I was a Lloyd Bensten fan. Okay again.

You really need to stop drinking before you start typing Fred.

DC Muskie
05-27-2011, 06:10 AM
Insane. I musta imagined that entire Bush dui leak near the election. Also, intent and execution are two entirely different things. Dan Rather hates the Bush clan but he has helped get two of them elected: 1) he gave backbone to 41 when he faced Rather with the "what about you being off the air following the US Open" dustup. This on the heels of unbiased, according to DC MUskie, NEwsweek cover calling him a "wimp."

2.) the bogus Dubya national guard docs Dan sooo wanted to believe.

Also, DC Muskie must have missed the fine reporting of the NYT claiming John MCcain had a mistress. How come they weren't on the case of John Edwards?

I must have missed where Dan Rather lost his job.

I also must have missed the media's coverage of Whitewater. And how Clinton has people knocked off.

I'm not sure what your point is, except to remember things I said about ten years ago. I'm happy you are such a fan of mine.

Fred Garvin 2.0
05-27-2011, 12:50 PM
DC Muskie The Logician: Only one Dem has been reelected in 30 years. Therefore, no liberal bias in the media.

How's this one: perhaps they don't get reelected because they did a shytty job.

Fred Garvin 2.0
05-27-2011, 12:56 PM
Also, who cares that Murphy Brown was fictional. It obviously resonated with people and had a cultural impact. And look how far we've come. Now we have that whore Chelsea Handler writing a book about one-night stands and bragging about her abortion.

You don't think she affects the same chicks who worshipped Six in the City? But, oh yeah, that's all fictional so it's irrelevant.

DC, maybe you should start drinking. It could help sedate your erratic thinking.

Fred Garvin 2.0
05-27-2011, 12:58 PM
Hey everybody, did you know DC Muskie once read a book about The Teapot Dome scandal? Think i"ve seen him use that reference once or a million times.

DC Muskie
05-28-2011, 06:37 AM
DC Muskie The Logician: Only one Dem has been reelected in 30 years. Therefore, no liberal bias in the media.

How's this one: perhaps they don't get reelected because they did a shytty job.

Do you actually read the thread, or do you like to just pound out statements that have no relation to the topic?

DC Muskie
05-28-2011, 06:39 AM
Also, who cares that Murphy Brown was fictional. It obviously resonated with people and had a cultural impact. And look how far we've come. Now we have that whore Chelsea Handler writing a book about one-night stands and bragging about her abortion.

You don't think she affects the same chicks who worshipped Six in the City? But, oh yeah, that's all fictional so it's irrelevant.

DC, maybe you should start drinking. It could help sedate your erratic thinking.

Maybe someone should talk about the life style of Peter Griffin and how we need better father role models. You know who cares if it fictional, it resonates with the 18-35 male demographic.

Why don't you pass over what you are drinking...cause maybe then I could understand your dumbass comments.

DC Muskie
05-28-2011, 06:42 AM
Hey everybody, did you know DC Muskie once read a book about The Teapot Dome scandal? Think i"ve seen him use that reference once or a million times.

It's a good story. Did you know that where the term "Fall Guy" comes from? You may have used that term having no idea where it came from, but you do know that I have read a book on it.

Oh and by the way, since I know you are such a fan of what I write since you seem to keep a personal journal of it, I have read two books on the Teapot Dome scandal. Two.

Carry on.