Bill Comar hired at UD

[Muskie]

For those that don't remember, Bill was Director of Basketball Operations from May 2001 – June 2008. He also had worked at UD previously as an assistant. He's been at Loyola-Chicago the past few seasons as an Assistant to Whitsell.

[xubrew]

Muskie, it's DOBO, not DIO....

DOBO is one of those acronyms that could easily become a verb. He's doboing at UD.

[Muskie]

Muskie, it's DOBO, not DIO....

DOBO is one of those acronyms that could easily become a verb. He's doboing at UD.

Yeah I don't know what happened there. I'll fix it.

[ballyhoohoo]

Muskie, it's DOBO, not DIO....

DOBO is one of those acronyms that could easily become a verb. He's doboing at UD.

Wasnt DIO a rock band?

[Muskie]

Wasn't DOBO also? or are we thinking of dido?

[bobbiemcgee]

or dildo?

[sash19]

Actually Muskie, Bill has been working as the Director of Strategic Development at Pro Camps in Blue Ash. They run camps around the country for pro athletes and do other athlete event planning.....

[Muskie]

Actually Muskie, Bill has been working as the Director of Strategic Development at Pro Camps in Blue Ash. They run camps around the country for pro athletes and do other athlete event planning.....

huh... the resume i saw posted said he was an Assistant at Loyola.

[xubrew]

Wasnt DIO a rock band?

Dio was a rock band. It was fronted by Ronnie James Dio, the same person who took Ozzy Osbourne's spot in Black Sabbath.

I think being a DOBO is one of the worst jobs in athletics. Pretty much every coach did it at one time, but it's no fun. Most of them get paid slave wages as well. They also can't actually coach or interact with the players at practice. It's a life of programming DVRs, booking hotels and meals, driving all over the place to exchange film (at least back in the day. Now pretty much everything is on the internet), and basically being the gopher for the team. If I'd been an assistant for seven years, I don't think I could go back and be a DOBO. I think I'd just hang it up and look for something else. It's 60+ hours a week of busy work and answering phones for not all that much more than minimum wage. They are the paralegals of the basketball world.

[SixFig]

Dayton taking our sloppy seconds once again...

[Cheesehead]

Dayton taking our sloppy seconds once again...

reps for you!

[Masterofreality]

Some Hire.

All I recall about Bill Comar was that he walked around the bench with a bright light shining off of his chrome dome- almost blinding the crowd. Maybe the reflection off his forehead is what caused the Borecats to throw the ball away after Lionel Chalmer's shot in 2004.

I never heard anything about him contributing any basketball knowledge or having any significant input as to anything. He gets to wear a suit, though and he does have "Xavier" on his resume.

Another, (cough, cough) impressive hire at the dump.

[StanleyOwnsYou]

I believe he went to Loyola after Sean left and worked there a year or two but I saw him at many games this year and knew he was working somewhere in the area.

[MFurey]

Some Hire.

All I recall about Bill Comar was that he walked around the bench with a bright light shining off of his chrome dome- almost blinding the crowd. Maybe the reflection off his forehead is what caused the Borecats to throw the ball away after Lionel Chalmer's shot in 2004.

I never heard anything about him contributing any basketball knowledge or having any significant input as to anything. He gets to wear a suit, though and he does have "Xavier" on his resume.

Another, (cough, cough) impressive hire at the dump.

Bill has a wealth of basketball knowledge and a very solid hire by UD. While he will not be out recruiting he will be very valuable at practices and his years experience in the A10 will help Archies young staff. During his 7 years at X he was a great ambassador for Xavier and was a part of building the program we have today.

[xubrew]

Bill has a wealth of basketball knowledge and a very solid hire by UD. While he will not be out recruiting he will be very valuable at practices and his years experience in the A10 will help Archies young staff. During his 7 years at X he was a great ambassador for Xavier and was a part of building the program we have today.

The DOBO is typically not a coach. It's an administrative position. You're only allowed so many coaches. They're not even supposed to be involved in the practices, or for that matter doing any actual coaching. It would actually be a violation because you're only allowed so many coaches.

It's the freakin' DOBO. No disrespect, but who cares who they hired?? You don't hear too many people bragging about what a great DOBO they just hired. It's kind of like saying you hired a great file clerk (one of my former jobs, btw, and I bet I made more than most DOBOs).

[MFurey]

The DOBO is typically not a coach. It's an administrative position. You're only allowed so many coaches. They're not even supposed to be involved in the practices, or for that matter doing any actual coaching. It would actually be a violation because you're only allowed so many coaches.

It's the freakin' DOBO. No disrespect, but who cares who they hired?? You don't hear too many people bragging about what a great DOBO they just hired. It's kind of like saying you hired a great file clerk (one of my former jobs, btw, and I bet I made more than most DOBOs).

Agreed, why should we be slamming this hire or have a thread about it. I thought MOR's post was unnecessary. Nothing I posted wasnt true. I dont know the rules but I do know he cant recruit, whether he can help in practice I dont know.

[Masterofreality]

Bill has a wealth of basketball knowledge and a very solid hire by UD. While he will not be out recruiting he will be very valuable at practices and his years experience in the A10 will help Archies young staff. During his 7 years at X he was a great ambassador for Xavier and was a part of building the program we have today.

Whatever. I don't recall any of Xavier's players ever going out of their way to thank Bill Comar for his contributions to their development.

And.....that tenure at Loyola really worked out well. He sure helped Whitsell, who was fired after last season. As Brew said, he's a DOBO. He doesn't even have responsibility for scheduling. He's a glorified "administrative assistant".

I'm not concerned that Mr. Comar will put udump over the top. Like Sixfig said, the Cryers are trying to live off of XU's reflected glory by taking sloppy seconds.

[xeus]

The "sloppy seconds" comments sound kinda stupid given that Comar was at UD for four years before he came to X.

[sash19]

huh... the resume i saw posted said he was an Assistant at Loyola.

Muskie I can assure you 110% that Bill was working at Pro Camps for the last couple of years and not Loyola. He was there 1 year.....

[XU 87]

C'mon guys. Komar was involved with the Xavier program for 7 years, and under 2 different coaches. I think that says he did a pretty good job at X and based on the one time I met him, he's a good guy. What's the point of blasting him?

And I hope no one ever tells Brian Thonton that he's a glorified administrative assistant. This job, like all jobs, has its own merit and responsibilities.

[XUFan09]

C'mon guys. Komar was involved witht he Xavier program for 7 years, and under 2 different coaches. I think that says he did a pretty good job at X and based on the one time I met him, he's a good guy. What's the point of blasting him?

And I hope no one ever tells Brian Thonton that he's a glorified administrative assistant. This job, like all jobs, has its own merit and responsibilities.

This.

[xeus]

When Sean was still at X, he had this to say about Bill Comar: "Bill knows the Atlantic 10 extremely well after coaching at Dayton and being a part of our success at Xavier. If you ask our players they will tell you that the organization on a daily basis that Bill provides is invaluable to their success at Xavier as students and athletes. Bill is extremely intelligent, passionate about the game and a tireless worker. He sets our program apart in so many ways."

I also recall seniors specifically thanking Bill for his part in their development at past basketball banquets. That's good enough for me.

[XUFan09]

When Sean was still at X, he had this to say about Bill Comar: "Bill knows the Atlantic 10 extremely well after coaching at Dayton and being a part of our success at Xavier. If you ask our players they will tell you that the organization on a daily basis that Bill provides is invaluable to their success at Xavier as students and athletes. Bill is extremely intelligent, passionate about the game and a tireless worker. He sets our program apart in so many ways."

I also recall seniors specifically thanking Bill for his part in their development at past basketball banquets. That's good enough for me.

Thanks for that. I just find it absurd that since now he's at Dayton, people are trying to find ways to make it look like he sucks. Dayton can still suck without an individual who has made positive contributions to Xavier sucking (an individual that I'm sure Miller was happy to get from Dayton in the first place)

[Masterofreality]

If he ain't wit' us, he agin' us. :rolleyes:

#offseasonjabbing

[xubrew]

And I hope no one ever tells Brian Thonton that he's a glorified administrative assistant. This job, like all jobs, has its own merit and responsibilities.

At most places, being a DOBO probably sucks a lot more than being a regular administrative assistant, so calling it a "glorified" administrative assistant is probably making it out to be better than what it actually is.

If you want to get into coaching, you pretty much gotta do it. I'm not knocking it as a profession. If anything I respect and empathize with people who are going through the process of paying their dues. Having said that, it does suck. You spend long hours doing tedious work, are generally taken for granted, are rarely thanked when you do things right, and often blamed when you do things wrong.

"Hey DOBO, this DVD you made is of poor quality. You need to call around and see if you can't get another one. We need that tonight."

Suddenly, you're driving to another city to try and find a better copy on five minutes notice, and that's if the other school is willing to give it to you. If not, then it's suddenly your fault.

That's one scenario out of a whole bunch where DOBOs are often shat on.

And considering all the hours they work, they're paid less than minimum wage.

Saying the position sucks is not bashing anyone. It's simply statiing that it's a crappy job. I'm not going to sit here and glorify it. I've had some crappy jobs and have had to pay some dues myself. I'm not going to glorify that either. It sucked. And I actually think being a DOBO would suck even more in a lot of cases.

...And, yeah, why bash the guy?? He's doing what he needs to do to get to where he wants to be. Good for him.

[blobfan]

C'mon guys. Komar was involved with the Xavier program for 7 years, and under 2 different coaches. I think that says he did a pretty good job at X and based on the one time I met him, he's a good guy. What's the point of blasting him?

And I hope no one ever tells Brian Thonton that he's a glorified administrative assistant. This job, like all jobs, has its own merit and responsibilities.

Ditto. There was quite a bit of happy talk when Thornton came on board. I've always heard that Comar was a solid guy and that the various moves were personally driven, not due to any failure to succeed. If we had an opening Mack might have hired him but we didn't. Dayton keeps him in the area and with the Miller connection it probably made sense.

We are due to lose to Dayton at home. It's a matter of odds. The day will come when they play perfectly and we have an off day on our home court. When it happens, negative talk like that found in this thread is going to be hard to live down. And it serves no purpose.

[SixFig]

We are due to lose to Dayton at home. It's a matter of odds. The day will come when they play perfectly and we have an off day on our home court. When it happens, negative talk like that found in this thread is going to be hard to live down. And it serves no purpose.

I respectfully disagree. It's a message board, I'm not worried about being held to anything. I reserve my right to talk junk about Dayton until they prove me wrong. When that time comes, I'll live up to it. Basketball is a game, it's all in good fun.

[Masterofreality]

We are due to lose to Dayton at home. It's a matter of odds. The day will come when they play perfectly and we have an off day on our home court. When it happens, negative talk like that found in this thread is going to be hard to live down. And it serves no purpose.


I respectfully disagree. It's a message board, I'm not worried about being held to anything. I reserve my right to talk junk about Dayton until they prove me wrong. When that time comes, I'll live up to it. Basketball is a game, it's all in good fun.

Holy crap. We're now avoiding trash talking the dump? About a guy who is a DOBO? Huh? Stay Strong Six!

Really? Political Correctness run amok. When they prove they can hold our jock-straps, with all due respect to the ladies, maybe I'll ease off, but right now they still blow and they have no players. Their new coach is an inch taller than their old coach.

They are a somewhat rival. They deserve no quarter.

[xu95]

Holy crap. We're now avoiding trash talking the dump? About a guy who is a DOBO? Huh? Stay Strong Six!

Really? Political Correctness run amok. When they prove they can hold our jock-straps, with all due respect to the ladies, maybe I'll ease off, but right now they still blow and they have no players. Their new coach is an inch taller than their old coach.

They are a somewhat rival. They deserve no quarter.

No disrespect to the Dayton ladies. They can probably hold our men's jock straps better than their men can

[blobfan]

I respectfully disagree. It's a message board, I'm not worried about being held to anything. I reserve my right to talk junk about Dayton until they prove me wrong. When that time comes, I'll live up to it. Basketball is a game, it's all in good fun.


Holy crap. We're now avoiding trash talking the dump? About a guy who is a DOBO? Huh? Stay Strong Six!

Really? Political Correctness run amok. When they prove they can hold our jock-straps, with all due respect to the ladies, maybe I'll ease off, but right now they still blow and they have no players. Their new coach is an inch taller than their old coach.

They are a somewhat rival. They deserve no quarter.

I'm sorry. Where exactly did I say we shouldn't talk about this? I'll defend Comar because good people say he's a good guy and I think it's unfair to under-value him just because he ended up at the dump. And I do think there is little purpose in belittling every person ever associated with ud. I think our coach might admit there are a few good things that come from that school. And I fully expect to be served crow at some point over the smack talk. I'm not taking back anything I said but I intentionally avoided telling any poster to stop trashing the dump. That's a personal choice. I merely voiced an opinion that we are going to be served crow for it some day and it will be very difficult to explain why we shouldn't be forced to eat it. It's my opinion. I do not expect everyone else to share it. I do not expect behavior to change because of what I said. I do not think poorly of anyone for an opinion expressed in this thread (although I think the attack on Comar was undeserved). My feelings have not stopped me from reveling in the ud smack in the past and is unlikely to hold me back in the future. I think potato chips are bad for me; doesn't stop me from eating them.

My motivation in even sticking up for anything ud is that I think the attack on Comar was undeserved. I don't know him personally but I do know people that have worked with him in the past. XU Men's basketball is a powerful force at the University. There are a lot of people associated with the program that like to throw their weight around because of that and they often bully people. From what I've heard, Comar was not like that so I chose to stick up for him.

Sue me, ban, call it PC run amok. But that's how I feel.

[Masterofreality]

I think potato chips are bad for me; doesn't stop me from eating them.


I believe we have found common ground. Peace.:p

[sash19]

He may have taken a job at the shittiest school in the Midwest but Bill is a great guy. I have known him for years and he has always been a good guy. He just made a career mistake, that is all!!!

[XUFan09]

I just think the smack is more appropriate for those who really deserve at UD. For example:

1. A lot of the fans. Oh, damn, where to begin...
2. Brian Gregory, up until his recent departure. Some could say it's too easy, but that just makes it all the more fun.
3. Potentially Archie in the future. For now, we can just call him "Little Brother." A nice double-meaning, since it defines the basketball program too.
4. A number of the players, past and present. My favorite: London Warren. Second favorite: Juwan Staten, when Tu broke the heralded freshman's ankles so badly that he fell on his ass.

There's so much available material, why waste it on a great guy who was good for X in the past? Other targets are just so much better. :D

[goxavier84]

I have a few problems with what is being said here. First off, Bill Comar worked tirelessly for Xavier, and absolutely contributed to the great on and off court success of the program in his years at the school. He's at Dayton now, and while no one has to wish great success for the Dayton program, degrading someone who has been a major part of the Xavier Basetball family for the last decade as both an asset and friend of the program is ridiculous.

The role of a DBO varies from program to program, but please note that it is much more than a glorified administrative assistant at Xavier. Obviously it is a lower position than an assistant coach, but it carries an importance that the detractors of the role obviously do not and will not understand. It is ok not to know many facts about something, but it is foolish to pretend to know something you have little understanding of at all. This insults for Comar and the Director of Basketball Operations position are not deserved.

I wish Bill Comar the best unless he's playing Xavier.

[XUFan09]

There's a reason that Skip Prosser introduced the position at X in the first place, and our very own Chris Mack was the first to hold the position.