u dump's New Coach

[Masterofreality]

Ok, it's not a "search" anymore so I submit it's time for a new, dedicated thread to the new guy who'll be prowling the sidelines at the festering cesspool in the ghetto.

When I first hear about this last night, my reaction was basically a "ho-hum". They do what they do up there. Then I went to bed and slept very soundly with no worries.

When I woke up this morning, I still have no worries, but now I can't stop laughing to myself. And, man, do I have a lot of thoughts:

-The dump has hired a guy who wasn't even on Towson's radar screen.
-They hired a guy who, other than lapping around behind his brother, has never been more than a third in line assistant.
-Lapping behind his brother?- A) Archie went to NC State because his bro was one of Sendek's assistants. B) Archie got his OSU assistant job because his raccoon brother's relationship with Beaknose. C) His bro granted him a job at Arizona.
Way to make it on your own.
-Didn't udump see this movie before? BG was an assistant to Judd Heathcoat and Tom Izzo for Gawd's sake. I believe both of those guys won National Championships. Not so Archie's former bosses.
-What? The Cryers had to hire an assistant? WTF? That is what teams in the freaking Big Sky, Northeast Conference and SWAC do. Aren't there head guys out there with experience that want your "coveted" job. Greg Kampe was a better choice.
-I always heard that the job in the ghetto was "coveted" because of the "rabid fan base", the "tradition", the (cough, cough, puke) "arena", the "aura". Well, well. That is some "covetization" when that is what you wind up with.
-What makes the udump administration think that the brother of a guy can succeed just because of reflected glory? That would be like the Independent Party deciding to run Billy Carter in a Presidential Election because his brother won one time. Makes sense to me.
-Good job by the raccoon taking care of his brother- that is if he did recommend him to the Cryer brass. Nothing like taking your own flesh and blood and throwing him in front of a typhoon wind driven Flagship- with a huge f-ing X on the front.
-This does nothing to help the A-10 get better in general. But, of course, nothing the dump does, well, errr...does.

All in all. I will be giggling like a sugared up school girl over this. I anxiously await the first Chris Mack/ Archie Miller matchup. It's just too bad that Archie's Mom and Dad, who are very nice people, have to witness their kid getting drawn, quartered and decimated by the Flaghship's propellers. It will not be pretty.

[xudash]

I see it as you do.

I don't know how a third in line assistant actually makes a jump of this magnitude. No amount of bloodlines will help with the very real fact that moving from managing a few aspects of a program to the head chair requires an immediate capacity for management expertise, organizational skills, etc.

Maybe he believes he can do it. The shake down cruise isn't going to go smoothly. As far as that goes, I agree with you that he's going to get caught up in our propellers either way.

[xu drew]

He was the Associate Head Coach at Zona under Sean. To me that sounds like he's second in line, not third.

I want to beat him as bad as anybody, but the move makes me a bit uneasy. By all accounts he's been a great recruiter. At some point we'll surely be making a play on the same player....who will win?

Archie will no doubt implement the same system his brother uses, which is essentially the same system we use. Who can do it better?

No matter how good he may be, considering their current state of affairs up north, we obviously we have a few years before UD will be a legitimate concern. That said, I for one preferred BG at the helm.

[Cheesehead]

I am all for bashing UD any chance I can get but didn't XU hire Miller, an assistant coach w/ no head coach experience and then Mack, an assistant w/ no head coach experience. I am sure if Mack left and Kelsey is still here, Bobo would hire Pat.

I guess time will tell on this one

Brad Stevens had no head coaching experience and that has turned out ok.

[Xavgrad08]

Anytime you hire an assistant coach it is a risk, but I think UD made a great hire. Archie like Sean has been around baskeball his whole life. Archie will likely implement the pack line defense and I gurantee you Dayton like X won't beat themselves. It might take Archie some time, but he willl get them towards the top of the conference.

Also, I think Archie will put together a great assistant coaching staff. I thought Dayton under Gregory recruited to much from Michigan and Ohio. Archie will likely have someone with east coast ties on his staff, which will help in getting some east coast players.

[Masterofreality]

He was the Associate Head Coach at Zona under Sean. To me that sounds like he's second in line, not third.

I want to beat him as bad as anybody, but the move makes me a bit uneasy. By all accounts he's been a great recruiter. At some point we'll surely be making a play on the same player....who will win?



To the first sentence- read what I said- "other than lapping around behind his brother".

Second sentence. Great recruiter? Where. Oh-ho ho State? Wow that's a toughie. Other than being wrapped in the scarlet/gray cloak, the guy has no experience in recruiting- around the midwest- or any where else for that matter.

Let's compare these conversations:
One:
Recruit: Hello?
AM: Hi this is Archie from Ohio State.
Recruit (excitedly): The Ohio State coached by the guy with a Big Beak and Final Fours and National Championships and 8 milion people wearing their gear?
AM: Yeah, that one. Wanna scholly?
Recruit Oh hell to the Yeah!!!

Two:
Recruit: Hello?
AM: Hi this is Archie from dayton.
Recruit: Archie from dayton? Are you some kind of telemarketer selling me sumthin?
AM No, the university of dayton- basketball...I'm the coach.
Recruit: They play basketball there at dayton? I've never seen them in the Big Dance. U play D-1?
AM Yeah. We used to be really good back when your grandfather was a kid.
Recruit: I never heard of U. Where U been?
AM Arizona.
Recruit: Why were U out there?
AM: My brother is the coach there.
Recruit: Oh.
AM: You wanna scholly?
Recruit: Uh, I got offers from Xavier, Ohio State, Indiana, Butler, Louisville, Kentucky. I've even got one from Miami. I know Charlie Coles more than U, man.
AM: Oh.
Recruit: Hey, man. I got a brother who is a senior. He's got an offer from IUPUI and Middle Tennessee. He's a PG that shoots 20% from 3 and has a 1-4 assist to TO ratio. Since you seem so into being around brothers, U oughtta give him a shot.
AM Sounds good. I need a PG. Staten just left.......

I think it might be something like that. No connections on his own, no contacts on his own and no results background. Yep. Perfect formula.

[94GRAD]

Actually he recuited and developed Courtney Lee at Western Kentucky. He's not bad at what he does.

[xu drew]

Great recruiter? Where.

I'm not involved in the recruiting circles, so I only have what I read on the old intranet to give me info. That said, in addition to the recruiting hauls that OSU and Zona have brought in while he was an assistant, he also supposedly got NBAer Courtney Lee to Western Kentucky while working as a low-level guy there.

Like the others have said above, it's not like we haven't set precedent by bringing in our own untested assistant coaches.

Yes, he's younger with less experience than Miller and Mack when we hired them, and yes, we had those guys in-house so we had a better idea what we were getting, but it seems like you are dismissing him already and giving him no chance. With the connections he has around the country I would not be surprised to see him excel.

Unproven? Absolutely. But he's also learned from some of the best. And based on his family history if he is successful I have no doubts he'll bolt at the best opportunity.

[xsteve1]

UD finally realized to compete with X they have to copy what X does. But a really solid hire by Wabbler IMO. If he's successful he won't be there long.

[Masterofreality]

Actually he recuited and developed Courtney Lee at Western Kentucky. He's not bad at what he does.

Hmmmm. Questionable. Darrin Horn was the coach at WKU and was building a nice little program there. Archie didn't arrive on the scene until May, 2003. Horn was already involved with Lee at that point since you'd better be in with a kid when they were early in their soph/junior years or they're gone. Lee also wasn't exacly a hot commodity in HS as he was only a 3 star. I'm not sure if any other high profile program really went after him.

When Miller came on board, Lee would have finishing up his junior high school year and would have been looking to commit somewhere the next fall- which he did verbally in September. I'm sure that Horn was already long into the Courtney Lee train. Maybe Archie helpe a little bit at AAU meetings, but it's a stretch to say that a freshly hired assistant, who was nothing more than aglorified water boy at NC State, would have been given the responsibility to lock up a guy like Lee.

Book is the one getting it done at AZ and Archie's been along for the ride. If you guys want to praise Archie as the second coming, so be it. I will be losing no sleep this summer over this hire.

[jco17]

Hmmmm. Questionable. Darrin Horn was the coach at WKU and was building a nice little program there. Archie didn't arrive on the scene until May, 2003. Horn was already involved with Lee at that point since you'd better be in with a kid when they were early in their soph/junior years or they're gone. Lee also wasn't exacly a hot commodity in HS as he was only a 3 star. I'm not sure if any other high profile program really went after him.

When Miller came on board, Lee would have finishing up his junior high school year and would have been looking to commit somewhere the next fall- which he did verbally in September. I'm sure that Horn was already long into the Courtney Lee train. Maybe Archie helpe a little bit at AAU meetings, but it's a stretch to say that a freshly hired assistant, who was nothing more than aglorified water boy at NC State, would have been given the responsibility to lock up a guy like Lee.

Book is the one getting it done at AZ and Archie's been along for the ride. If you guys want to praise Archie as the second coming, so be it. I will be losing no sleep this summer over this hire.

We agree a lot MOR. However, this isn't true. Archie was the lead recruiter for Nick Johnson and Josiah Turner as well as a few others like Chol, Jerrett, and Eric Cooper Junior who are all commits. The West Coast was more Archie. Sidiki Parrom and Momo were Book.

[chico]

I think this was a very good hire by UD. MOR, the guy can recruit. He's learned under his brother, Matta and Sendek - three very good coaches.

The question is how fast he can turn things around up there. I think in a bout 3 years he has them in pretty good shape. Then, when the first decent job comes along, Fredo's outta there.

UD was caught off guard by this, and they got a pretty good coach. I think they know what they have here and that he'll bolt soon, so they probably will be better prepared when he leaves.

[Masterofreality]

We agree a lot MOR. However, this isn't true. Archie was the lead recruiter for Nick Johnson and Josiah Turner as well as a few others like Chol, Jerrett, and Eric Cooper Junior who are all commits. The West Coast was more Archie. Sidiki Parrom and Momo were Book.

I'll defer to you on that one jco.

All I know is that it is a whole lot different recruiting to an Arizona or a Ohio State than to the dump. You have to be selling an awful lot of faith, plus you are in a hornet's nest of schools around here.

I remain unconcerned.

[bobbiemcgee]

I heard his wife is hot, so i'm ok wif' it.

[jco17]

I'll defer to you on that one jco.

All I know is that it is a whole lot different recruiting to an Arizona or a Ohio State than to the dump. You have to be selling an awful lot of faith, plus you are in a hornet's nest of schools around here.

I remain unconcerned.

I agree with some of what you said for sure. Archie has had great coaches to sell to recruits. Now is his chance to sell himself. It will be very important for Archie to hire a great staff too. I personally think he will be succesful. The good thing is, if he is very successful, he moves on to a better job. If he isn't very successful, then you can laugh while beating on his teams. Kind of a win-win.

[LutherRackleyRulez]

I heard his wife is hot, so i'm ok wif' it.

BMcG,

Her name is Veronica...correct????

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs43/f/2009/144/f/b/Veronica_Lodge_by_the_other_mike.jpg

[CinciX12]

I don't see how this is any different than Brian Gregory in the least bit.

In. The. Least. Bit.

Assistant coach big program, lucky enough to be carried along by their more successful friend or brother in this case. They are kidding. They have to be kidding.

Man, that WKU experience should have him KILLING when it comes to recruiting. Is he going to recruit off his brother's name? Sorry, stupid question.

[LadyMuskie]

From Blackburn Review: "Dayton is finally learning, if you can't beat Xavier, at least grab the younger brother of their former coach and see if anything will rub off. "

They're desperate up north. If Thad Matta had a younger brother who was coaching, they probably would've hired him first and then Archie Miller a couple of years later.

[SixFig]

From Blackburn Review: "Dayton is finally learning, if you can't beat Xavier, at least grab the younger brother of their former coach and see if anything will rub off. "

They're desperate up north. If Thad Matta had a younger brother who was coaching, they probably would've hired him first and then Archie Miller a couple of years later.

Skip Prosser's son coaches Wofford...I'm surprised he didn't get a look too.

[GuyFawkes38]

Definitely a major risk (he's a 33 year old assistant). I know a lot of people are positive about him. But I've never heard a negative thing about an assitant at a major program. Assistants get to share in the glory of their bosses, yet seem to avoid the blame for the mistakes.

But who knows. It might work out. He has a big upside.

[xu drew]

Do we know if anybody asked at his press conference what type of car manufacturer he would equate the Dayton basketball program too?

We know Arizona is a Lexus and X is a Buick, but I didn't know what the Miller family thought Dayton was...

[Muskied]

Do we know if anybody asked at his press conference what type of car manufacturer he would equate the Dayton basketball program too?

We know Arizona is a Lexus and X is a Buick, but I didn't know what the Miller family thought Dayton was...

UD is an NHRA Funny Car. Sleek looking, lotta hype, really loud and fast for about 10 seconds, and then it's chute opens and you're left with nothing else the rest of the day.

[Masterofreality]

Judging by the below, picture, the dump didn't get an upgrade in coaching height. He's "listed" at 5:10. He's skinnier than the raccoon, I'll give him that.
http://cmsimg.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=AB&Date=20110403&Category=SPT01&ArtNo=304030041&Ref=AR&MaxW=300&Border=0

Chris Mack "out-heights" him by about 8 inches. Let the new Leprechaun jokes begin.

[HuskyMuskie]

Definitely a major risk (he's a 33 year old assistant). I know a lot of people are positive about him. But I've never heard a negative thing about an assitant at a major program. Assistants get to share in the glory of their bosses, yet seem to avoid the blame for the mistakes.

But who knows. It might work out. He has a big upside.

THIS is exactly right.

[Muskie]

Judging by the below, picture, the dump didn't get an upgrade in coaching height. He's "listed" at 5:10. He's skinnier than the raccoon, I'll give him that.
http://cmsimg.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=AB&Date=20110403&Category=SPT01&ArtNo=304030041&Ref=AR&MaxW=300&Border=0

Chris Mack "out-heights" him by about 8 inches. Let the new Leprechaun jokes begin.

Wow. First time i've ever seen him. Did he play college ball too?

[DC Muskie]

Did he play college ball too?

He played at NC State. The same conference that Frank Haith coached in.

[xavierj]

He played at NC State. The same conference that Frank Haith coached in.

Does he also have a smokers cough? That is Sean's signature move.

[MuskieCinci]

I think this hire debunks the whole Dayton-Xavier rivalry thing. Xavier would never hire Bob Huggins' brother to coach here. Even if he had no connection to UC we would never allow this to happen. Find someone else, don't go to the best coach your rival has ever had and ask if they have a brother.

[XULucho27]

Do we know if anybody asked at his press conference what type of car manufacturer he would equate the Dayton basketball program too?

We know Arizona is a Lexus and X is a Buick, but I didn't know what the Miller family thought Dayton was...

A DeLorean. Had it's run back in the day but now it's just a piece of crap. Only people who think a DeLorean is still good are people who own a DeLorean.

It fits Dayton perfectly.

[bobbiemcgee]

Need any Xavier Gear? Email Miller's Dad in a hurry:

http://www.timesonline.com/sports/college/basketball/millers-patriarch-of-coaching-dynasty-revels-in-son-s-success/article_5563c112-5e6f-11e0-bd2a-001a4bcf6878.html

[xubrew]

Skip Prosser's son coaches Wofford...I'm surprised he didn't get a look too.

Mike Young, the Wofford head coach, would have been one of my top three choices. I would have wanted someone with head coaching experience.

That being said, you can't get head coaching experience until someone gives you a chance. Sometimes associate head coaches don't have the credentials to match their ability. Archie Miller may be a great head coach. If anything, he was able to sell himself well enough to get the job over other guys who I assume were current head coaches, so that has to count for something. There are things that indicate that he does have the ability.

Or, he could be a train wreck. We shall see.

I don't know that much about him. I know he was the associate head coach, but at Arizona I don't know what that means. Was he running the practices?? Was he coming up with the workouts?? Was he scouting?? Each coaching staff structures the duties differently, so although I know what his title was, I have no idea what he was actually doing.

[PMI]

While I am not a Sean Miller hater, I have to say, if Archie Miller brings ud any success in his tenure, it's going to be one of the most unbearable things I can imagine. I hate dayton with a burning passion and if they got good under a freaking Miller that would really suck. On the other hand, it will be that much more gratifying beating their asses. I hope our guys play every dayton game like it's even more personal now. I have to admit, there were some dayton victories in the past that didn't feel as special to me as the ones about 8 years or so ago, mainly because I don't respect dayton. I respect dayton less than ever today, but now continuing the Jimmy Carter streak is going to have a whole new flavor to it, and I'm excited for that. How beautiful would it be to see Archie Miller never beat Xavier before he bolts (or gets fired?)

[xnatic03]

Rumor has it that Miller will be filling out his coaching staff with Frank Stallone, Clint Howard, and Roger Clinton.

[American X]

I'm confused. I thought Veronica was a rich girl. Why is she strutting around as a slutty stewardess? Betty seems more suited to that career path.

"Archie was the bitch and Jughead was the butch. That's why Jughead wears that crown-looking hat all the time. He the king of queen Archie's world."

[mohr5150]

Speaking of phone calls, I wonder how this one went down:

Mack: Hello?
Desert Raccoon: Hey, Chris, (cough) it's Sean
Mack: Hey, how are you? Nice run in the tourney.
DR: Thanks. Hey, I needed to talk (cough) to you about something.
Mack: Lay it on me. You know, we're good friends, so we can talk about anything.
DR: Well, remember (cough) when I spoke about all my allegiance to (cough) X when I was there?
Mack: Sure.
DR: Well, I really did feel that way, (cough) at least until the money was shown to me.
Mack: I understand.
DR: Well, (cough) something's come up.
Mack: What's up?
DR: You remember (cough) my brother, Archie?
Mack: Yeah. You wanted him on staff here, but the school has a policy against that.
DR: Yeah, that's him. Well, (cough) he's been offered a head coaching job.
Mack: Hey, congrats to him! Where's he going?
DR: Well, (cough) he's going to (cough) UD.
Mack: University of Delaware?
DR: No, (cough) Dayton.
Mack: Really? Did you advise him to do this?
DR: Well, (cough) the money (cough) was right.
Mack: But, Sean, didn't you tell him how this might look? You coached at X, supposedly loved it here, and now you've advised him to take the job at one of their most hated rivals? That's going to make people here at X dislike you even more. Your family name will be ruined forever here at X.
DR: Like I said, (cough) the price was right.
Mack: Yeah...I hear you. The price was right. Sounds like a family trait.
DR: Uh...
Mack: Hey, it was nice talking to you, Sean. Let your brother now I wish him the best except for when we play them. I won't let up on him, I hope you know.
DR: Yeah, I'm glad you (cough) understand.
Mack: Yeah, I understand all right. I'll talk to you later.
DR: Uh... (click)

[LA Muskie]

If we are upset that our former head coach's kid brother took a job at Dayton, we may well be the pettiest fans in the history of sport.

[blobfan]

Anytime you hire an assistant coach it is a risk, but I think UD made a great hire. Archie like Sean has been around baskeball his whole life. Archie will likely implement the pack line defense and I gurantee you Dayton like X won't beat themselves. It might take Archie some time, but he willl get them towards the top of the conference.

Also, I think Archie will put together a great assistant coaching staff. I thought Dayton under Gregory recruited to much from Michigan and Ohio. Archie will likely have someone with east coast ties on his staff, which will help in getting some east coast players.

If that were a real factor in sports success, wouldn't the Bengals be SuperBowl contenders every year? Heck, I think that is the sum total of Mikey's rationale for staying in the GM role: "I've been around the sport my whole life. It's in my family's blood. Of course I know how to succeed on the playing field."

I don't have a real opinion on this except it would really suck for our team to get beat by Fredo's team. Given the number of times we play the dump it's bound to happen and I'm sure a lot of these comments will be thrown back at us.

[boozehound]

This is funny. Dayton hired our old coach's little brother.

[LadyMuskie]

While I am not a Sean Miller hater, I have to say, if Archie Miller brings ud any success in his tenure, it's going to be one of the most unbearable things I can imagine. I hate dayton with a burning passion and if they got good under a freaking Miller that would really suck. On the other hand, it will be that much more gratifying beating their asses. I hope our guys play every dayton game like it's even more personal now. I have to admit, there were some dayton victories in the past that didn't feel as special to me as the ones about 8 years or so ago, mainly because I don't respect dayton. I respect dayton less than ever today, but now continuing the Jimmy Carter streak is going to have a whole new flavor to it, and I'm excited for that. How beautiful would it be to see Archie Miller never beat Xavier before he bolts (or gets fired?)

Totally agree with everything you said here!

[DoubleD86]

If we are upset that our former head coach's kid brother took a job at Dayton, we may well be the pettiest fans in the history of sport.

I can't rep you, but I agree with this wholeheartedly. The guy has no personal connection to Xavier. Should we never hire or recruit anyone related to someone who played/coached at UC or UD even if they are the right guy to play/coach for us?

[Masterofreality]

I can't rep you, but I agree with this wholeheartedly. The guy has no personal connection to Xavier. Should we never hire or recruit anyone related to someone who played/coached at UC or UD even if they are the right guy to play/coach for us?

I'm not upset. I think it's comical. Nothing more.

udump has a thing about hiring Lilliputians.

[bobbiemcgee]

Losing Staten, Spearman, Henton and Gibson plus Chris Wright - Ouch!

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

How great would it be if Henton came to X

[Fred Garvin 2.0]

I can't rep you, but I agree with this wholeheartedly. The guy has no personal connection to Xavier. Should we never hire or recruit anyone related to someone who played/coached at UC or UD even if they are the right guy to play/coach for us?

It was $%y when LA said it and doubly $%y when double86 seconded it.
Seriously, don't some of you ever get tired of the smug, haughty routine?

Arrogance doesn't equal intelligence.

[GoMuskies]

It was $%y when LA said it and doubly $%y when double86 seconded it.
Seriously, don't some of you ever get tired of the smug, haughty routine?

Arrogance doesn't equal intelligence.

This (because I know you're so fond of that).

[Lamont Sanford]

Losing Staten, Spearman, Henton and Gibson plus Chris Wright - Ouch!

Are they really losing Henton and Gibson too? I had not heard that.

[MCXU]

Are they really losing Henton and Gibson too? I had not heard that.

Yeah, I think after the Flyers got slapped in the face by CoC in the NIT, someone in the locker room finally figured out what a piece of Sh!t basketball school/program Dayton is.

The realization quickly spread through the ranks and the troops are running for the hills.

Dayton has actually managed to get worse so far this off season. Next years team may look back at the days of going 8-8 in conference and losing in the first round of the NIT as the high point during their playing days.

Word has it that Archie Miller is meeting potential recruits at Dunkin Donuts. (I am being serious about this)

Meanwhile, back at the ranch... Swampy Meadows is writing articles about how great a basketball school Dayton is, and how he can't figure out how recruits don't want to play in their awesome arena that everyone in the nation talks about. Yeah Swampy, I was just on a trip to New Orleans and thats all I heard anyone talking about, "Hey, Bourbon Street is great and all, but if you really want to party at a place that smells like piss 24/7 you need to go to Dayton Ohio. Also they have a big arena and the fans are so knowledgeable."

:logo:

[bobbiemcgee]

Archie should have taken them to Krispy Kreme and bought them sweater vests.

[nkymuskie]

http://www.blackburnreview.com/main/2011/4/12/goodbye-henton-gibson-we-never-knew-ye.html

Dayton might have enough players for a team next year.... maybe

[Muskie]

How great would it be if Henton came to X

I think both will end up at MSU from what i hear.

[Tardy Turtle]

I think both will end up at MSU from what i hear.

ZOMG do you have a source?

WHO IS YOUR SOURCE????? YOU MUST TELL US!!!!

[jco17]

While I am not a Sean Miller hater, I have to say, if Archie Miller brings ud any success in his tenure, it's going to be one of the most unbearable things I can imagine. I hate dayton with a burning passion and if they got good under a freaking Miller that would really suck. On the other hand, it will be that much more gratifying beating their asses. I hope our guys play every dayton game like it's even more personal now. I have to admit, there were some dayton victories in the past that didn't feel as special to me as the ones about 8 years or so ago, mainly because I don't respect dayton. I respect dayton less than ever today, but now continuing the Jimmy Carter streak is going to have a whole new flavor to it, and I'm excited for that. How beautiful would it be to see Archie Miller never beat Xavier before he bolts (or gets fired?)

Whoa a Caps fan! Yes. Off topic, but I'm a HUGE hockey nut. I'm a Season Ticket Holder with the Hershey Bears where they develop the Caps prospects. Been watching the playoffs 4 rows off the ice. Loving it.

[PMI]

Whoa a Caps fan! Yes. Off topic, but I'm a HUGE hockey nut. I'm a Season Ticket Holder with the Hershey Bears where they develop the Caps prospects. Been watching the playoffs 4 rows off the ice. Loving it.

Nice stuff, you should check out the NHL Playoffs thread in the Out on the Mall board. I've got season tickets to the Caps and have seen a lot of Hershey Bears come up and give us big boosts over the years. Hershey has been the class of the league the last few years and it looks like Michael Neuverth has brought his championship ways up to the NHL level for this postseason. One of the major reasons for the Caps success over the last few years is that we have the luxury of being able to call up several good players at every position from Hershey when guys get hurt or are having struggles. Hell, also can't forget that Hershey gave us Bruce Boudreau too. Love the Bears.

[Masterofreality]

Attention, Homeland Security Forces:

Thread Hijacking in Progress!!!

[LutherRackleyRulez]

Per Andy K/ESPN.....


Dayton turns to Archie Miller




http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=katz_andy&id=6388208

[muskiefan82]

The article is delusional.

"UD is one of the top jobs in the Atlantic 10, alongside Xavier." Really? Come on.

"There is a reason the NCAA tournament opens in Dayton. There is a true passion for college basketball in the city, and that passion -- along with the high school talent in western Ohio and the surrounding areas -- creates an expectation that the Flyers should be a contender every season for the league title and an NCAA tournament berth."

Expectations abound everywhere. It's doing something that matters.


"Archie said he sees Dayton as a Top 25 job and embraces its mission to be a consistent winner. " Wow. Have you not even talked to your brother?

[DC Muskie]

The more and more I read about Archie, the more and more I think how weird it is that Dayton hired the little brother of our former coach.

That last line in the article just proves it.

[kyxu]

The more and more I read about Archie, the more and more I think how weird it is that Dayton hired the little brother of our former coach.

That last line in the article just proves it.


Given Sean Miller's track record, that's good news for Dayton.

I know, right? What a bizarre conclusion to draw based on a coach that is not Archie Miller.

[XUFan09]

The article is delusional.

"UD is one of the top jobs in the Atlantic 10, alongside Xavier." Really? Come on.

"There is a reason the NCAA tournament opens in Dayton. There is a true passion for college basketball in the city, and that passion -- along with the high school talent in western Ohio and the surrounding areas -- creates an expectation that the Flyers should be a contender every season for the league title and an NCAA tournament berth."

Expectations abound everywhere. It's doing something that matters.


"Archie said he sees Dayton as a Top 25 job and embraces its mission to be a consistent winner. " Wow. Have you not even talked to your brother?

Honestly, which jobs after Xavier would you put ahead of Dayton? Dayton has a lot of support for the program there, and with the right coach, they will sadly make the NCAA tournament on a regular basis. Now the "top 25 job" comment, I don't know about that. Based on the fan support and talent in that area, maybe top 50.

[DC Muskie]

I know, right? What a bizarre conclusion to draw based on a coach that is not Archie Miller.

I mean what is that to run on? He's the third apple on a tree that has had two pretty good apples? I mean Sean is considered a good coach. Part of that thinking is his time at Xavier where he beat...Dayton.

So Dayton can't get Sean so they go out and get his brother and hope that apple is just as good. And God love them, Dayton fans are eating that apple, making apple pie, apple sauce, apple cobbler...having no idea if this apple won't turn out to be poisonous.

We just suck in the off season compared to them.

[Masterofreality]

The more and more I read about Archie, the more and more I think how weird it is that Dayton hired the little brother of our former coach.

That last line in the article just proves it.


I know, right? What a bizarre conclusion to draw based on a coach that is not Archie Miller.

I just think it's funny that udump lovs to hire Lilliputians. Small job, small guy.

The Racoon is 6:3, Archie is 5:9. I guess he is an upgrade from BG.

"I get it all the time that we sound alike and that we have the same mannerisms," Archie said. "Well, he is my brother. I think we're allowed to look the same and talk the same and have the same habits. Although he is 6-3, 230 and I'm 5-9, 165-170.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0419/ncb_a_milleras_200.jpg

I wonder if he has a chronic cough too?

[Muskie91]

I mean what is that to run on? He's the third apple on a tree that has had two pretty good apples? I mean Sean is considered a good coach. Part of that thinking is his time at Xavier where he beat...Dayton.

So Dayton can't get Sean so they go out and get his brother and hope that apple is just as good. And God love them, Dayton fans are eating that apple, making apple pie, apple sauce, apple cobbler...having no idea if this apple won't turn out to be poisonous.

We just suck in the off season compared to them.

At least they're getting some other fruit in their diet. Can you imagine how mundane it gets making the same watermelon dishes over and over again? Lil Johnny, "Are we having watermelon fritters with hoo-hash again?"

[bobbiemcgee]

Looks like Archie's new hire, "Gene Autrey" has jumped on Champion and headed to the 'cuse already.

[GoMuskies]

Are we sure Archie Miller still exists? I though Sean Miller ate him a few years back.

[bobbiemcgee]

Gibson to Iowa St.

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2011/05/21/percy-gibson-headed-to-iowa-state-for-hoops/

[paulxu]

Gibson to Iowa St.

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2011/05/21/percy-gibson-headed-to-iowa-state-for-hoops/

Damn, there's no one left to abuse Reynolds. What will Muddy do.

[GuyFawkes38]

It's strange to go to the A10 and UD boards.

UD fans are still on a high after the Miller hire. It's tough to understand. Four of their most promising prospects won't be in a UD uniform next year.

Miller might turn into a good coach. But it's far from a certainty. Assistant coaches tend to be over hyped (indeed, I've almost never heard anything negative about assistant coaches...they are praised while the head coach is blamed for all the team's faults).

[GoMuskies]

Gibson to Iowa St.

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2011/05/21/percy-gibson-headed-to-iowa-state-for-hoops/

Damn, this kid is a glutton for punishment. First Dayton, and now Iowa State?!?

[jcubspoe]

It's strange to go to the A10 and UD boards.

UD fans are still on a high after the Miller hire. It's tough to understand. Four of their most promising prospects won't be in a UD uniform next year.

Miller might turn into a good coach. But it's far from a certainty. Assistant coaches tend to be over hyped (indeed, I've almost never heard anything negative about assistant coaches...they are praised while the head coach is blamed for all the team's faults).

You're right Guy, we have no idea what Miller will do at UD, conversely after 8 years, we knew what Gregory would do even given the best situation. Thus, the hope.

[GuyFawkes38]

You're right Guy, we have no idea what Miller will do at UD, conversely after 8 years, we knew what Gregory would do even given the best situation. Thus, the hope.

Good point.

[bobbiemcgee]

Spearman moving up to Indian Hills Community College to augment his NBA hopes.

[XUFan09]

Spearman moving up to Indian Hills Community College to augment his NBA hopes.

Funny that that's actually true. Blackburn Review noted that Indian Hills Community College has produced two NBA draftees over the last ten years to Dayton's zero lol.

[bobbiemcgee]

Hilarious comment on Blackburn:

"let's examine the outgoing parts to the UD super awesome well spoken hoops machine:

Cornell Mann - DWI
Billy Schmidt - Couldn't get a job, came crawling back to the BG tit
Devin Searcy - No pro hoops
Chris Wright - From NBA lock to Denmark in 2 years
Juwan Staten - Low level BCS school, future coach left for a service academy
Brandon Spearman - CC, still has hope
Percy Gibson - Chose a low level BCS school
Ladonte Henton - Chose a very low level BCS school
BG (aka One of the Best in the Business) - Took the first job offer that came along. Lost his best player at GT, another kid would rather fuck Filipino trannies.

What a complete dumpster fire the last 8 months have been."

[Muskied]

Hilarious comment on Blackburn:

"let's examine the outgoing parts to the UD super awesome well spoken hoops machine:

Cornell Mann - DWI
Billy Schmidt - Couldn't get a job, came crawling back to the BG tit
Devin Searcy - No pro hoops
Chris Wright - From NBA lock to Denmark in 2 years
Juwan Staten - Low level BCS school, future coach left for a service academy
Brandon Spearman - CC, still has hope
Percy Gibson - Chose a low level BCS school
Ladonte Henton - Chose a very low level BCS school
BG (aka One of the Best in the Business) - Took the first job offer that came along. Lost his best player at GT, another kid would rather fuck Filipino trannies.

What a complete dumpster fire the last 8 months have been."

Wow...Juwan is getting really good at getting coaches to leave. Hopefully he'll transfer again to UC.