McGuff rumor @ Women's Final Four

[cinskyline]

According to Rebkells board, Women's Hoopscoop is claiming that McGuff has accepted the Wisconsin position after denying it at first. Guess we will find out soon whether or not this is true!

[XU-PA]

Are you sure the rumors aren't getting their UW's mixed up?
still reading that Wisconsin's first choice is the guy from Wisconsin Green Bay. His hire would make tons of sense in Cheeseland.

[cinskyline]

Are you sure the rumors aren't getting their UW's mixed up?
still reading that Wisconsin's first choice is the guy from Wisconsin Green Bay. His hire would make tons of sense in Cheeseland.

Yeah, I think people are getting the rumors a little confused -- McGuff is actually up for the Washington job, not Wisconsin. I cannot find anything on Twitter or on any other website, so I'm not really sure what's going on.

At any rate, one of HoopScoop's rumors has already been confirmed as true -- Nikki Caldwell is leaving a talented UCLA squad to go coach at LSU. Total shocker!

[XU-PA]

Saw that about UCLA.
I guess that spins the coaching carrousel even faster!

Gotta think that McGuff's preference is to stay here, but can't help but think he is very very disappointed in the support he gets, as in fan base. Must be very very frustrating to see a team that is top ten for 2 years almost lose the attendance battle for an NCAA game in their own arena!
It happened back in 2004 also, when XU hosted an NIT game, and lost to Miami. 700 people in the house that day, most wearing red.
Even the bug NCAA year back in 2001, XU had a little stronger attendance numbers, but a big bump of that came from 2 NCAA games with 6000 plus, most of that was due to Louisville being in the group of 4 teams.

[HomerCecil]

If he goes to Washington, it's not going to be for fan support. They average 2400 a game. I frankly don't think it's that great of a job, but if he's going to bolt, this is the year to do it.

[BlueBlob1]

MCGUFF TO WASHINGTON... look for confirmation (press conference) tomorrow from Seattle.

[xavierj]

MCGUFF TO WASHINGTON... look for confirmation (press conference) tomorrow from Seattle.

Sean Miller probably told him to take it. Washington is a long, long way from Hamilton, OH.

[bballscorer6]

Washington is a long way from Cincinnati, so who fills Kevin's shoes????

[Perma Fro]

Current assistant Mike Neighbors.

[xavierj]

Current assistant Mike Neighbors.

I think they should look to just hire some hot chick who looks good in a skirt. That would help the attendance issue.

[X-Fan]

Bobo should go for Toledo's Womens coach Tricia Cullop. She's quickly (3 years) turned around a program that was down but had been very good for years before that at Toledo. They won the MAC this year (which had been dominated by BG for the last 5 years), and turned a disappointing loss in the MAC tourney in to a WNIT championship. I have been very impressed with her and she seems like a very strong leader (think a mix of Pat Summit and Melanie Balcomb's personalities).

Either way I know Bobo will make the right hire.

[Muskiefornia]

Love Coach Neighbors! Program would be in great hands.

[Masterofreality]

I have an impeccable source friend who is an Assistant AD in the PAC 10 and I inquired via a text about this today. The answer:

"It's true. McGuff is going to Washington".

G-bye Kevin. I'll have more to say about this after the official announcement.

[XU-PA]

Shame.
He has definitely given us fans much more than we deserved.
Wish him the best of luck out west, certainly a challenge and I think he will be up to it.

Who's next? Knowing Waugh and Neghbors will be top candidates, I think based on experience that Neighbors would edge Amy out. Will be interesting to follow the process.

I would imagine there will be a very very long line of people who want the job, Coach McGuff has helped put the program into a position of prominence.

[sash19]

Someone mentioned Tricia Cullop. Tricia was also on the Xavier staff of Melanie Balcomb....I personally think that if Neighbors would stay-bring Amy Waugh in as a coach.....

Also, I believe I know your source MOR..... :)

[XU-PA]

http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/040311aaa.html

and

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BKW_WASHINGTON_MCGUFF?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-04-03-18-37-53

and

http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/040311aaa.html

read the Gohuskies version, tells all about his success, and why he was hired. And in my opinion, why we will miss his leadership.

[BlueBlob1]

I would like to see Coach Waugh take the reins. I think with her connections to the university it would be a great fit. She is passionate and dedicate...seems like a coach players want to play for.

I’m on the Amy Waugh bandwagon.

[STL_XUfan]

I would be curious to see if Mike Bradbury's name comes up for the position. Former associate head coach who has done alright at Morehead St. and Wright St.

[XU-PA]

I would like to see Coach Waugh take the reins. I think with her connections to the university it would be a great fit. She is passionate and dedicate...seems like a coach players want to play for.

I’m on the Amy Waugh bandwagon.

It would be an easy bandwagon to jump on. Amy was the ultimate player, no one could match her intensity. Seeing just a few games with her on the bench in the last 2 season, I could see she does well at adapting to the situation. You can see her fire, and passion, and can also see her gentle side.

On the other side, she does not have the experience that Coach neighbors does.
Certainly hope that whoever gets the job, as much of the staff as possible remains in place. The remaining trio, Neighbors, Waugh and Morrow have been a good team, seem to mesh well together.

[cinskyline]

http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/040311aaa.html

and

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BKW_WASHINGTON_MCGUFF?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-04-03-18-37-53

and

http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/040311aaa.html

read the Gohuskies version, tells all about his success, and why he was hired. And in my opinion, why we will miss his leadership.

Yeah, I was really hoping the rumors weren't true. He will be missed. But I do want to thank him for all of his hard work and success while he was here. Hopefully the next coach will build from what he did here.

[ArchiePants]

Waugh, while she is a great coach, needs a few more years to ripen. I don't think Neighbors really wants a head coaching job.
Carla Morrow is actually the second assistant, but she has always stayed with Neighbors. I actually think we should look at former assistant Mike Bradbury, who's at Wright State right now. We could use someone with lead experience to pick up running.

[cinskyline]

Think there's going to be a lot of candidates for this job.

My opinion --

Bradbury really hasn't done enough in the head coaching spot for me to be considered. I want more of a track record of success.

I love Amy, but she has no head coaching experience and probably needs to start out being a head coach of a lower level school somewhere first.

Cullop has had a nice coaching career -- but correct me if I'm wrong-- she has been to 0 NCAA Tournaments in this time?

Initially -- I like Mike Neighbors as the coach, but he too has no head coaching experience -- however he would provide familiarity. My gut tells me he would be the best pick of the four.

Bobinski has some work to do -- hopefully he takes his time and looks at candidates outside of the these 4 as well. It's going to be a big decision.

[XU-PA]

I think we always think of the current staff first whenever this happens, especially considering the past few moves in and out of the men's program.
But really, look at the history of success, the facilities, there will be a long line of people knocking on Bobo's door.
I think the only drawback to the XU job is the severe lack of fan support

[ArchiePants]

I think we always think of the current staff first whenever this happens, especially considering the past few moves in and out of the men's program.
But really, look at the history of success, the facilities, there will be a long line of people knocking on Bobo's door.
I think the only drawback to the XU job is the severe lack of fan support
We aren't Tennessee or UConn, but we were getting some more people at the games this year..... We need someone who can recruit like Kevin did to get that fan support. Bradbury has a lot of the same channels that Kevin did, but didn't have the program to get the players.
I agree we don't really have an ideal candidate in the Current staff, but we will need someone to keep the same recruiting standards.

[xu_fan]

Very disappointing that Kevin is leaving but it is really hard to blame him. I think he may have peeked at Xavier... I wish him the best of luck at UW but I think sometimes coaches leave for greener pastures and it doesn't always work that way. Oh well, I hope he does well...

I really like the idea of Mike Bradbury. I love Amy but think she just needs more time before she could be a head coach at a program like Xavier. I could be wrong! (see shaka smart and brad stevens) I would be okay with Mike Neighbors but I'm just not sure that is what he wants... I'm really excited for a brand new start next year... These last 4 years have been defined by Amber/Ta'Shia/Kevin and a whole new start could be a good thing. Im choosing to be optomistic!

[HomerCecil]

Congrats to Coach McGuff.

In all honesty, I always assumed McGuff would leave, but I thought it would be for a more impressive program than Washington. I don't know what they're paying him, but they didn't pay Tia Jackson anything, UW doesn't have much history and they have less fan support than X does. But, there aren't that many jobs open this year, and this is apparently his year to bolt. He did an awesome job here and took us to another level and I wish him nothing but the best.

As for the next coach, Bobinski has a pretty great track record at hiring coaches. I think we'll be able to get another great young coach and whether that's someone who is on the current staff or not, I look forward to another great coach.

[HomerCecil]

Edit: They're paying him $475,000 a year, I see. That's well more than double what they were paying Tia.

[xu_fan]

According to the website of the University of Washington he signed a 5 year contract worth about $475,000 per year. I don't know much about head coaches salaries in Women's Basketball but that seems to be pretty good. UW is in a major city and I've been to their campus and it is beautiful. The Bank of America Arena is nice too. Evidently, UW had some good years before Tia Jackson was there.

After thinking about it some I think it's actually got a lot of potential.. There seems to always be solid recruits in the state and the only women's program worth anything up there is Gonzaga.... I wonder if coach was thinking about this before the season... We're suppossed to be having a freshman next year from Washington... I thought it was odd he was recruiting in the NW... I wonder if she'll still come to Xavier or follow McGuff... I can't recall her name right now..

[HomerCecil]

I would take a look at Bowling Green's coach. I'm always surprised he hasn't moved on to a bigger program.

[XU-PA]

Edit: They're paying him $475,000 a year, I see. That's well more than double what they were paying Tia.

How does that compare with what he was making here? I thought that was about what he was getting here, perhaps I'm wrong.
I don't think he's going for the money.
He'squoted in one of the articles about the new TV contract UW put together for the womens program. I think that means alot to him, he was always involved in the marketing plans at XU.
I know the attendance has not been great at UW, but with the stature of the now Pac-12, quality of the conference opponents, and size of the market, that TV deal must have been icing on the cake for him. He is as passionate about his job as anyone I've ever known, and I think for him the lack of fan support at X was the only bad part of the job, but a major issue.

[Xavier Nation]

No not Mack, Mcguff. Good luck to him

[94GRAD]

No not Mack, Mcguff. Good luck to him

It's being discussed on the womens board.

[bjf123]

While I wish him the best of luck, I think he picked the best time to leave. With Amber and Tashia graduating, he probably wouldn't be a top ten team the next few years.

[xavierj]

How does that compare with what he was making here? I thought that was about what he was getting here, perhaps I'm wrong.
I don't think he's going for the money.
He'squoted in one of the articles about the new TV contract UW put together for the womens program. I think that means alot to him, he was always involved in the marketing plans at XU.
I know the attendance has not been great at UW, but with the stature of the now Pac-12, quality of the conference opponents, and size of the market, that TV deal must have been icing on the cake for him. He is as passionate about his job as anyone I've ever known, and I think for him the lack of fan support at X was the only bad part of the job, but a major issue.

According to Guidestar.com and the 990 Xavier filed Kevin was making around $150K at Xavier. He just tripled his salary.

[BlueBlob1]

To everyone saying Amy is too young and does not have enough experience I beg to differ. She's been coaching at D1 just as long as Coach Neighbors. I think we all just see her as the "Amy Waugh as player" plus she still looks like a kid. BUT on the contrary... she's been around the business (1 year a Youngstown, 5 at Wake, and then 2 here). I would say thats experience and Xavier is known for hiring from within (promoting ast to head coaches), esp. someone who knows the system and Xavier. That's what we do. That's the Xavier Way.

Bobinskis last 3 basketball hires...

Kevin McGuff (ND ast. coach... no head coaching exp.)
Sean Miller (XU Associate Head Coach...no head coaching exp)
Chris Mack (XU Associate Head Coach... no head coaching exp)

Look at the history of Xavier basketball... looks like things are lining up for Amy

[cinskyline]

According to Guidestar.com and the 990 Xavier filed Kevin was making around $150K at Xavier. He just tripled his salary.

I knew it wasn't anywhere near $475,000. That's a pretty nice deal.

[diehardfan]

I think they should look to just hire some hot chick who looks good in a skirt. That would help the attendance issue.
you are such a jerk, that is such a sexist comment, I hope you are not a season ticket holder cause you don't deserve to be in their presence.

[xu_fan]

WOW!!!! Talk about a pay raise... The little anger I had just went away... He would have been stupid to pass up that pay raise...

No hard feelings coach!

[XU-PA]

you are such a jerk, that is such a sexist comment, I hope you are not a season ticket holder cause you don't deserve to be in their presence.

reps to you diehard!
Too bad there are many jerks out there

[XU-PA]

According to Guidestar.com and the 990 Xavier filed Kevin was making around $150K at Xavier. He just tripled his salary.

That's surprising, never would have thought it was that low.

[xavierj]

you are such a jerk, that is such a sexist comment, I hope you are not a season ticket holder cause you don't deserve to be in their presence.

Relax this is a message board. If you can't have a little fun they you are taking these boards way too serious. It was a joke to lighten an otherwise downer with the coach leaving. Sorry if I offended you. If you were offended by that comment I advise you not to read too many comments on this message board because your head might explode.

[Bigbluebrotha]

Reading the UW Web article, it seems Coach's decision was motivated by much more than money. He believes in the program and it's obvious the university is committed to building a successful women's program.

I wish him the best and thank him for all his contributions to the Xavier program. It's been fantastic to watch.

How does a family man such as McGuff, or anyone for that matter, pass on $2.375 million over five years?

As for the successor, I think there are strong candidates inside the program that would be tremendous assets to continue the success and there will be significant outside interest.

One footnote, those of you doubting Bradbury's track record need to take a closer look. He's done a lot with a little at Morehead and Wright State.

Should be an interesting week for sure.

[CinciX12]

Congrats coach on leaving when things were about to get hard!

Convenient excuse with the money too. Nobody will ever blame you. Genius.

[PMI]

I don't follow the women, so I'm not sure, but other than recruiting some great players, haven't the women's teams underachieved in his tenure? I remember when I was there people always said they were going to be so good and they'd just go to the NIT. This year they lost at home as a 2 seed and collapsed down the stretch. My question: (Other than his obvious recruitment of the players) Is McGuff really the reason the women have been good, or is it just that we have better players than most other teams in a sport with major talent gaps? As far as Amy Waugh, I remember her as the little guard who shot the lights out back when the women made their first Elite 8 run because I watched some of those tournament games. I didn't know she was a coach now.

[CinciX12]

I don't follow the women, so I'm not sure, but other than recruiting some great players, haven't the women's teams underachieved in his tenure? I remember when I was there people always said they were going to be so good and they'd just go to the NIT. This year they lost at home as a 2 seed and collapsed down the stretch. My question: (Other than his obvious recruitment of the players) Is McGuff really the reason the women have been good, or is it just that we have better players than most other teams in a sport with major talent gaps? As far as Amy Waugh, I remember her as the little guard who shot the lights out back when the women made their first Elite 8 run because I watched some of those tournament games. I didn't know she was a coach now.

That is what my interpretation of it always was. We had 2 girls that were lightyears better than the A10 competition that we played and we routinely lost to the top tier teams.

[MuskieMAN5]

Shouldn't this belong in womens basketball? Just a thought...

[Xavier Nation]

I swear some of you just bash to bash. I thought it was news worthy enough, sorry. But seriously is it worth 5 people echoing eachother.

[SixFig]

I swear some of you just bash to bash. I thought it was news worthy enough, sorry. But seriously is it worth 5 people echoing eachother.

I don't even check each forum individually, I just hit the "new posts" button.

You must admit the title of your post is designed to alarm fans as if Mack was leaving.

[xuwin]

My opinion only is that McGuff got out while he still had some value. He has done a very poor recruiting job in replacing Harris, Phillips and Jennings and he has left the cupboard bare. Last year he had three players carry the team and no bench and recruited nobody to replace them. If he had stayed another year nobody would have wanted him.

[X-band '01]

Katie Rutan and Dee Dee Jernigan gave Xavier a decent bench last season; no one really stepped forward to spell Dee Dee like last season.

Frankly, who knows how the freshmen will play out next year. Both Holmes and Hawkes were able to get into a number of games, although they saw little playing time in games that mattered. Amber Gray will also be back next year and will be the first in line to be a starter in the frontcourt.

[muskienick]

I've always felt that Coach McGuff was a very fine recruiter and a decent (but not great) tactician. He will succeed at Washington since he will continue to recruit well and provide that program with a series of winning seasons, perhaps after a year or three of building the program.

I've had season tickets to the Lady Muskies' games for years up until this past season (the economy took its toll on us). I'd like to see a bit of continuity in the program by the naming of either Bradbury or Neighbors as Head Coach and elevating Amy Waugh to Associate Head Coach and heir apparent to the Head Coaching job at its next vacancy. It would mirror the formula that AD Bobinski has used to make the Men's program what it has become in the "M Era" (of Matta --- Miller --- Mack).

I simply refuse to believe that Kevin McGuff made only $150,000 as Head Coach of a team that is routinely ranked in the Top 20 among Women's D-1 College Basketball. However, if that is true, Xavier must do better to attract and keep its next couple of Women's head coaches (regardless of its tendency to average in the 2,000 or below range for its home games).

[cinskyline]

My opinion only is that McGuff got out while he still had some value. He has done a very poor recruiting job in replacing Harris, Phillips and Jennings and he has left the cupboard bare. Last year he had three players carry the team and no bench and recruited nobody to replace them. If he had stayed another year nobody would have wanted him.

I don't know where this notion of the team having no talent left is coming from. I don't know why McGuff decided to use a 6 man rotation this year, but it was obviously a mistake. Hawkes and Holmes should have been used much more than they were, especially when it was clear that they had the talent to do so.

X is not going to go out every year and recruit a Harris and Phillips. We are not Tennessee, UConn, or Stanford. We don't have that kind of pull. Jennings is a good player, but not the best PG ever to play at X (Nikki Kremer and Reetta Piipari were better in my opinion). She is not irreplaceable. For all we know, Hawkes could be as good or better than Special.

I think the A-10 is one of the big reasons that McGuff is moving on. Let's face it, it's much easier to convince a recruit to play in the Pac-10. This league really drags X down.

[XU 87]

I simply refuse to believe that Kevin McGuff made only $150,000 as Head Coach of a team that is routinely ranked in the Top 20 among Women's D-1 College Basketball. However, if that is true, Xavier must do better to attract and keep its next couple of Women's head coaches (regardless of its tendency to average in the 2,000 or below range for its home games).

According to Xavier's tax filings, McGuff made about $180,000 in '08, the last year they are lsited on some web site. So he at least doubled his salary at Washington.

But it's probably tough to pay the X women's coach much more in light of the attendance. I 'm guessing the women's program loses close to $1 million per year.

[Muskie]

I've often wondered why they don't tack on Women's tickets to the Men's package? I believe some schools do this. That way your guaranteed a certain amount of cash from season ticket holders.

I've also wondered why they don't do a double header with the Men's squad. I'd be more likely to go to a Women's game if I could go to the Men's game before or after.

[STL_XUfan]

According to Xavier's tax filings, McGuff made about $180,000 in '08, the last year they are lsited on some web site. So he at least doubled his salary at Washington.

But it's probably tough to pay the X women's coach much more in light of the attendance. I 'm guessing the women's program loses close to $1 million per year.

I bet these numbers are competitive for women's basketball teams. It almost feels like the 475K that McGuff got offered to go to Washington was the equivalent to backing up the Brink's truck.

As 87 said, the truth of the matter is that most women's basketball teams lose money regardless of their competitiveness and therefore it is hard to justify the giant contracts.

[X-man]

G-bye Kevin. I'll have more to say about this after the official announcement.

I wish McGuff luck as well, and I too have something to say. McGuff's teams have underperformed consistently throughout his tenure here. Their winning percentage reflects the incredible talent level that McGuff recruits at rather than their quality of play using that talent. His teams, for whatever reason, are undisciplined and characterized by sloppy play and inconsistent effort at both ends. In fact, I found it so painful to watch his teams squander their talent that I stopped going to games. I firmly believe that had McGuff sat some people down when they failed to run his offense, failed to defend intelligently, and failed to play consistently hard at both ends of the court, he would have had greater post-season success. But he didn't, and Xavier's NCAA tournament (last season excepted) record reflects this sad reality. I for one am excited about the prospect of having a new coach run the program.

[XU-PA]

Relax this is a message board. If you can't have a little fun they you are taking these boards way too serious. It was a joke to lighten an otherwise downer with the coach leaving. Sorry if I offended you. If you were offended by that comment I advise you not to read too many comments on this message board because your head might explode.

I'll toss my 2 cents in here on your pretty girl comment.
Those of us who are true fans of womens college basketball have chips on our shoulders at times, that is because there are really people out there who believe that the girls are playing so they can watch them jiggle and giggle up and down the court. There are people out there who believe that the girls really don't belong on the court because the men are better at everything they say (coaches) and do (players)
That is the unfortunate part about it, as a Xavier alum and a hoops fan I appreicate these players for the effort they put out, the talent they have.
So xavierj, while you may have been kidding, you touched a nerve, for many of us those comments don't belong here at all, kidding or not.

[X-band '01]

I'm not going to dispute that McGuff wasn't the best Xs and Os coach out there; Xavier never really overachieved as far as the NCAA Tournament goes. But he recruited well enough to make Xavier a Top 25 mainstay over the past few years, and without recruiting Xavier just cannot compete. The A-10 is the best of the non-BCS conferences as far as the women's game goes, and it was quite remarkable that this team managed a 34-game winning streak against the league.

McGuff scheduled up to prepare the team for the NCAA Tournament, but it just didn't work out this year as well as it did last season. Best of luck to him up at Washington.

[XU-PA]

spot on x-band

don't want to get into a pissing match with the people who were not McGuff fans, or the people who admittedly aren't even fans of womens ball.

But the man did his job, he took a program that was just beginning to hit the national stage and placed it firmly as a power house. his recruiting and coaching put a team on the floor that year after year destroyed their conference competition. Over and over into the post season.
Yep, he got few wins once in the tourney and as the coach he did take responsibility for that. One of the admirable things about him was players did not get thrown under the bus, he was the boss and he took responsibility.
One thing that was not his fault however was an incredible lack of support, i have a strong feeling that it was a big factor in his decision to leave. After reading about his salary level, I'm feeling that might be a big factor too.
Interesting that he'll get short of a half million a year, Caldwell left UCLA for LSU and will earn double what McGuff will get at UW

[xuwin]

I'm not going to dispute that McGuff wasn't the best Xs and Os coach out there; Xavier never really overachieved as far as the NCAA Tournament goes. But he recruited well enough to make Xavier a Top 25 mainstay over the past few years, and without recruiting Xavier just cannot compete. The A-10 is the best of the non-BCS conferences as far as the women's game goes, and it was quite remarkable that this team managed a 34-game winning streak against the league.

McGuff scheduled up to prepare the team for the NCAA Tournament, but it just didn't work out this year as well as it did last season. Best of luck to him up at Washington.

There were two reasons for the 34 game winning streak and their names were Harris and Phillips. They were recruited 4 and 5 years ago and he has recruited very little national calibur talent since.

[X-man]

One thing that was not his fault however was an incredible lack of support, i have a strong feeling that it was a big factor in his decision to leave. After reading about his salary level, I'm feeling that might be a big factor too.
Interesting that he'll get short of a half million a year, Caldwell left UCLA for LSU and will earn double what McGuff will get at UW

You might want to check out U'Dub's women's hoops attendance numbers before stating that he left here because of "lack of support".

[XU-PA]

Saw that X-man, you might want to look at more than this year, remember that they've had 4 horrible years under Jackson, total of just 45 wins in those 4 years. if you go back prior to Jackson's arrival, the numbers were better. They have fallen steadily over her tenure.
I think KM has the hope of turning that around, quickly. And reading his comments, UW just put together an impressive TV package for womens hoops. That's 2 potential upgrades for McGuff, the conference is a third one step higher on the rpi rank than the A-10, and then there's the money.
4 things that we couldn't, or wouldn't give him here, despite his eclipsing the win and winning percentage total of any other coach, and placing the program at a whole new level.

[Muskie]

Bobo should go for Toledo's Womens coach Tricia Cullop. She's quickly (3 years) turned around a program that was down but had been very good for years before that at Toledo. They won the MAC this year (which had been dominated by BG for the last 5 years), and turned a disappointing loss in the MAC tourney in to a WNIT championship. I have been very impressed with her and she seems like a very strong leader (think a mix of Pat Summit and Melanie Balcomb's personalities).

Either way I know Bobo will make the right hire.

What about the coach at Bowling Green? Can't think of his name.

[XU-PA]

What about the coach at Bowling Green? Can't think of his name.

Mike Bradbury, did a few years at X with McGuff. First to Morehead, then BG. Was replaced by Neighbors here.

Hard nosed guy, I liked him, most remember his voice screaming from the bench "POST UP BOOTHE!"


Wonder if anyone could tempt UConn's top assistant away.

[X-band '01]

Caldwell left UCLA for LSU and will earn double what McGuff will get at UW

No real surprise there; LSU is more of a traditional power than UCLA is. It also helps that the SEC is no longer the kingpin in women's BB; the Big East left no doubt in this tournament that they're the top conference at the moment. Notre Dame and UConn are at the cream of the crop; DePaul, Louisville, Georgetown and Rutgers are all solid as well. It's not a coincidence that DePaul, Louisville and Georgetown were the only 3 teams that won road games to advance to the Sweet 16.

Then again, it's Stanford and everyone else in the Pac-12 next year.

[HomerCecil]

Mike Bradbury, did a few years at X with McGuff. First to Morehead, then BG. Was replaced by Neighbors here.

Hard nosed guy, I liked him, most remember his voice screaming from the bench "POST UP BOOTHE!"


Wonder if anyone could tempt UConn's top assistant away.

Curt Miller is Bowling Green's coach. He's been there for a long time — since I was at Ohio University (and I graduated in 2004). He's done a great job and has taken BG to a Sweet 16.

Bradbury is at Wright State in the Horizon League.

[Bigbluebrotha]

The top UCONN assistant philosophy hasn't turned out so well for Cincinnati. Miller is certainly an interesting candidate and he was mentioned for UC's opening last time.

Interesting to see if XU breaks trend and goes outside the family on this one. It's certainly a great job and the talent with Moss, Rutan, Holmes, Pachko, Wilson, Hawkes and Crouch is certainly moldable. If the current staff passes, I think a lot of coaches would take the opportunity to sustain and grow the program with the aforementioned foundation.

[X-man]

I like Amy Waugh, current assistant coach. She is very smart, and knows the game real well.

[XU-PA]

The top UCONN assistant philosophy hasn't turned out so well for Cincinnati. Miller is certainly an interesting candidate and he was mentioned for UC's opening last time.

Interesting to see if XU breaks trend and goes outside the family on this one. It's certainly a great job and the talent with Moss, Rutan, Holmes, Pachko, Wilson, Hawkes and Crouch is certainly moldable. If the current staff passes, I think a lot of coaches would take the opportunity to sustain and grow the program with the aforementioned foundation.

No the one that went to Cinti wasn't tops under Geno, I'm talking about the tall one, older. Chris Dailey, has been coaching forever, all with UConn and is reportedly the main peg when it comes to recruiting.
The coach that went to UC was a relatively recent player that worked a few years on Genos staff.


DOH! Homer, thanks for the correction.

[xavierj]

No the one that went to Cinti wasn't tops under Geno, I'm talking about the tall one, older. Chris Dailey, has been coaching forever, all with UConn and is reportedly the main peg when it comes to recruiting.
The coach that went to UC was a relatively recent player that worked a few years on Genos staff.


DOH! Homer, thanks for the correction.

The problem is that UCONN's top assistant would have to take a pay cut to come to Xavier. Isn't happening.

[X-band '01]

I don't blame Jemele Elliott for UC being in the tank; they've never supported women's hoops whatsoever over in Clifton. Judging by their resources and fan support (you think OURS are bad - look at the triple-figure attendance numbers at UC), it was a miracle that they ever got an NCAA bid when Laurie Pirtle coached the Bearcats.

[XU-PA]

I don't blame Jemele Elliott for UC being in the tank; they've never supported women's hoops whatsoever over in Clifton. Judging by their resources and fan support (you think OURS are bad - look at the triple-figure attendance numbers at UC), it was a miracle that they ever got an NCAA bid when Laurie Pirtle coached the Bearcats.

True, the numbers over there confirm my feeling that the lack of support is a cincinnati thing, not just us.

[Masterofreality]

I wish McGuff luck as well, and I too have something to say. McGuff's teams have underperformed consistently throughout his tenure here. Their winning percentage reflects the incredible talent level that McGuff recruits at rather than their quality of play using that talent. His teams, for whatever reason, are undisciplined and characterized by sloppy play and inconsistent effort at both ends. In fact, I found it so painful to watch his teams squander their talent that I stopped going to games. I firmly believe that had McGuff sat some people down when they failed to run his offense, failed to defend intelligently, and failed to play consistently hard at both ends of the court, he would have had greater post-season success. But he didn't, and Xavier's NCAA tournament (last season excepted) record reflects this sad reality. I for one am excited about the prospect of having a new coach run the program.

Rather than launching into another long dissertation, I'll just say that I agree with everthing above. I will add one very pertinent item:

I am very close to an individual that is a sports adminstrator at a PAC 10 school. This individual was also a women's coach for over 27 years on the D-1 level with over 500 wins, numerous conference championships and Sweet 16's and Elite 8's. This person knows whereof it speaks. I asked this person, when I was with them last fall, what the opinion was of Kevin McGuff. Response? "The guy can recruit, but his X's and O's are terrible, his teams play undisciplined and he cannot make in-game adjustments. His players better win for him, because he'll do nothing to cause them to win. He's basically ridden the gravy train of a couple of recruits for 5 years, and mismanaged it."

Now that the road is getting a little rough, McGuff is blowing out on a job that he always described as "My dream job." I guess it was only his dream job until someone else opened up the bank.

Anyway, I'm not sorry to see him gone. Watching XU barely eke out wins over Temple and Dayton and losing to horriffic UC teams 2 years in a row when we had vastly superior talent used to drive me crazy. Blowing the Louisville game capped it. Lets hope for something better.

[CinciX12]

The important part to remember is that next season was always going to be a down year anyway. There is a reason McGuff left. It wasn't for the climate of Washington.

We have to get someone with a long term goal and be very patient.

[XU-PA]

Gonna go out on a limb.
If,,, and that's always a big 2 letter word, if the current players stick with the program and come in healthy, and if the signed recruits hold to their commitments.
I think it won't be as down as many people think.
While you can look at attempting to replace 2 all americans and see all the negative there, you have to look at this group and their level of talent to really analyze this team.
Crouch and Pachko could emerge as real stars here, add to that the talent of Amber Gray along with returners Rutan and Moss and I think you have the core of what could be a very very successful team.
Wildcards,,,,, Latisha Walker and Sabrina Johnson. Good size but can they serve as replacement in the post?
Taja Wilson, saw her on crutches at the NCAA games, sitting out a transfer year and having surgery means she'll have a lot of conditioning to do. Had limited minutes at Michigan State, but she came out of High school as a top 20 forward,
Wanninger, Hawkes and Holmes, got little time on the court but are a talented trio, probably still backups? Even so they make this group very very deep.

[Masterofreality]

Here's what I want to see when the Women's team comes out to play next fall:

-A team that actually plays some defense. It was inexcuseable how many times that the opposition was able to score uncontested layups against a team with two girls 6:5 or more. On top of that, the perimeter defense gave up way too many threes against good teams- such as Dayton. THAT is a bad combination.
-A team that actually runs some offense besides just trying to lob it into the 6:6 center or relying on someone like Special to bail them out with a drive.
-A team with some idea about time and score. When you should run clock, run clock instead of just jacking up a shot or having a bad turnover on a fast break.
-A team that has some shooters from out other than Katie Rutan.
-A team with some mental toughness and discipline.
-A coach who pays attention to detail and can adjust in game. If a girl can only go right, make sure your players guard her there. If a team is killing you on basket drives, switch to a freaking zone. If you have a height advantage, quit positioning your front line people away from the basket on both offense and defense.

I predict abject failure for Kevin McGuff at Washington. He'll have a nice bank account, however. I have no dislike for him. He's just not a good coach. Good recruiter? Yeah. Good Coach. Uh, no. Losing in back to back years to horrible SucKS teams in 2007 and 2008 proved that, plus never making an NCAA with Tara Boothe was a crime.

[cinskyline]

Here's what I want to see when the Women's team comes out to play next fall:

-A team that actually plays some defense. It was inexcuseable how many times that the opposition was able to score uncontested layups against a team with two girls 6:5 or more. On top of that, the perimeter defense gave up way too many threes against good teams- such as Dayton. THAT is a bad combination.
-A team that actually runs some offense besides just trying to lob it into the 6:6 center or relying on someone like Special to bail them out with a drive.
-A team with some idea about time and score. When you should run clock, run clock instead of just jacking up a shot or having a bad turnover on a fast break.
-A team that has some shooters from out other than Katie Rutan.
-A team with some mental toughness and discipline.
-A coach who pays attention to detail and can adjust in game. If a girl can only go right, make sure your players guard her there. If a team is killing you on basket drives, switch to a freaking zone. If you have a height advantage, quit positioning your front line people away from the basket on both offense and defense.

I predict abject failure for Kevin McGuff at Washington. He'll have a nice bank account, however. I have no dislike for him. He's just not a good coach. Good recruiter? Yeah. Good Coach. Uh, no. Losing in back to back years to horrible SucKS teams in 2007 and 2008 proved that, plus never making an NCAA with Tara Boothe was a crime.

McGuff actually made the NCAA's with Boothe in his first year. Other than that I agree with everything you've said.

I'll also add:

- A team that plays with consistent energy/effort.

[cinskyline]

Gonna go out on a limb.
If,,, and that's always a big 2 letter word, if the current players stick with the program and come in healthy, and if the signed recruits hold to their commitments.
I think it won't be as down as many people think.
While you can look at attempting to replace 2 all americans and see all the negative there, you have to look at this group and their level of talent to really analyze this team.
Crouch and Pachko could emerge as real stars here, add to that the talent of Amber Gray along with returners Rutan and Moss and I think you have the core of what could be a very very successful team.
Wildcards,,,,, Latisha Walker and Sabrina Johnson. Good size but can they serve as replacement in the post?
Taja Wilson, saw her on crutches at the NCAA games, sitting out a transfer year and having surgery means she'll have a lot of conditioning to do. Had limited minutes at Michigan State, but she came out of High school as a top 20 forward,
Wanninger, Hawkes and Holmes, got little time on the court but are a talented trio, probably still backups? Even so they make this group very very deep.

I don't think there will be too many transfers, however I can almost guarantee that incoming freshman Sarah Hartwell is going to ask out of her commitment. She is from Tacoma, Wash., and well.... you do the math. I'd be stunned if she still came to X.

But even if Hartwell backs out, we still have plenty of players left. I like your continuing positive attitude, PA!

[X-man]

Here's what I want to see when the Women's team comes out to play next fall:

-A team that actually plays some defense. It was inexcuseable how many times that the opposition was able to score uncontested layups against a team with two girls 6:5 or more. On top of that, the perimeter defense gave up way too many threes against good teams- such as Dayton. THAT is a bad combination.
-A team that actually runs some offense besides just trying to lob it into the 6:6 center or relying on someone like Special to bail them out with a drive.
-A team with some idea about time and score. When you should run clock, run clock instead of just jacking up a shot or having a bad turnover on a fast break.
-A team that has some shooters from out other than Katie Rutan.
-A team with some mental toughness and discipline.
-A coach who pays attention to detail and can adjust in game. If a girl can only go right, make sure your players guard her there. If a team is killing you on basket drives, switch to a freaking zone. If you have a height advantage, quit positioning your front line people away from the basket on both offense and defense.

I predict abject failure for Kevin McGuff at Washington. He'll have a nice bank account, however. I have no dislike for him. He's just not a good coach. Good recruiter? Yeah. Good Coach. Uh, no. Losing in back to back years to horrible SucKS teams in 2007 and 2008 proved that, plus never making an NCAA with Tara Boothe was a crime.


I am with you 100% on both your observations on McGuff and what we need in our team next season. McGuff's teams are so undisciplined that I stopped watching them. What a waste of talent.

[xavierj]

Hopefully the next coach practices dribbling and passing the ball, defense and not blowing games late when you are clearly the more talented team. I could have coached the team this past season or better yet just told the girls to practice on their own and show up for the games and we could have had the same results.

[XU 87]

My thoughts on McGuff:

1) Let's not forget that he has coached some of the best teams in Xavier history and was one (or two) missed layups from making a final four last year. Let's give him a little credit. Despite the NCAA's this year, the team did have a tremendous season and was legitimate contender to win it all.

2) But in the few times that I did see his teams play, I was a little surprised about the lack of intensity on defense at times and how the team fell apart in the Duke and Louisville games. I also thought the offense lacked some structure at times.

3) But as noted above, the guy did win a lot when he was here.

[xu_fan]

I have to disagree with everyone somewhat. Although I do not believe McGuff is God's gift to earth in coaching I do think he is decent. Yes, we had two very talented post players that probably should have made more noise over 4 years but we were not completely full of All Americans like Uconn, Tenn, Stanford, etc...

Underachieved??? This year? YES. No question the ladies should have made it back to at least the Elite 8. Last year? NO. No one gave us a chance to play with Stanford and we basically should have won the game. Two years ago? YES and NO. We were the 5 seed playing a 12 Gonzaga but the game was in Seattle at UW gym oddly enough and Gonzaga has proven since them that they are a legit team. My point is that with the exception of this year I haven't really been that disappointed. I can admit that sometimes the team played undisciplined but would we even be in the position we are if it wasn't for Kevin McGuff??? Let me answer that... NO WAY... Someone even mentioned losing to UC a couple times but I've been going to women's games for years and the 2000-2001 team also lost to UC... Is Melanie Balcomb a horrible coach because of that? UC used to beat us all the time even when we were the better team.. In rivalries crazier things have happened... That doesn't surprise me at all.

I've been following the women for about 13 years now and I think back to previous years were we never had a shot against the Dukes, NC, Stanford, LSU, Tenn, Maryland, etc.. .Let alone get a home/home seriers with them. I think that Kevin has done some great things for this program and we have to acknowledge that aspect.

Please believe me that there were games and the offense would look awful and we'd be sucking and I'd think I wish I saw this group with a different coach to see what they could accomplish. I think Kevin has many flaws as a bench coach, but all I can ask is that whoever leaves the program is leaving it better off than it was when they got here and I can 100% say this program is better because of the Crime Dog! (XU-PA wording)

[xu_fan]

For everyone that keeps mentioning defense... Say what you want but this group of girls have been in the top 10-20 NATIONALLY in FG percentage defense and PPG allowed.

Those numbers CANNOT lie. I'm not saying there weren't ever lapses in big situations but overall this was an incredibly wonderful defensive team on a national scale... They may have even led the country one year or maybe been 2nd...

[Masterofreality]

My thoughts on McGuff:

1) Let's not forget that he has coached some of the best teams in Xavier history and was one (or two) missed layups from making a final four last year. Let's give him a little credit. Despite the NCAA's this year, the team did have a tremendous season and was legitimate contender to win it all.


If there wasn't an incredible rally from double digits down last year vs Vandy, there never would have been the Stanford game. Credit, they did it, but McGuff got bailed out by his players on that one. The year before that, with a full roster, they were embarrassed by a much less talented, but much better coached Gonzaga team, who, I believe, would have embarrassed them again this year. Kelly Graves CAN coach.

Again. McGuff had two women who will be FIRST ROUND picks in the WNBA draft plus a super point guard in Jennings and a sharpshooter in Katie Rutan. Gotta say underachievement.

[XU 87]

If you blame him for the team being behind against Vandy, you should also credit him for the team coming back. I was at the Vandy game. Xavier ran a nice play after a timeout at the end of the game to take the lead.

I don't think he was a great bench coach. But he was good enough to go the Elite 8 last year and lose only three games this year.

And his mediocre bench coaching doesn't take away from the fact that he recruited some top players.

[X-band '01]

Gonzaga had a star player of their own - Courtney Vandersloot who is finally graduating this year. Xavier had no answer for her when they played in the 2009 Tournament and wound up losing. Last year, she couldn't hit the broadside of a barn and Xavier won easily. Gonzaga had some talent around her, but Graves is going to be tested next year without Vandersloot in the lineup.

I would also add that Amber Harris didn't play in the first X-Gonzaga game. She suited up but never played in the game (as that was her redshirt season).

[XU-PA]

For everyone that keeps mentioning defense... Say what you want but this group of girls have been in the top 10-20 NATIONALLY in FG percentage defense and PPG allowed.

Those numbers CANNOT lie. I'm not saying there weren't ever lapses in big situations but overall this was an incredibly wonderful defensive team on a national scale... They may have even led the country one year or maybe been 2nd...

Can't rep you, wish i could. You always seem to say what I want to say, but you do it so much better.
hey someone, give xu_fan a rep for me??????

[xavierj]

My thoughts on McGuff:

1) Let's not forget that he has coached some of the best teams in Xavier history and was one (or two) missed layups from making a final four last year. Let's give him a little credit. Despite the NCAA's this year, the team did have a tremendous season and was legitimate contender to win it all.

2) But in the few times that I did see his teams play, I was a little surprised about the lack of intensity on defense at times and how the team fell apart in the Duke and Louisville games. I also thought the offense lacked some structure at times.

3) But as noted above, the guy did win a lot when he was here.

Really? Yeah not so much. They would not have ever beaten UCONN and Stanford beat them by 40. Not to mention legitimate national contenders don't blow 10 point leads on their home court when they are playing for their ncaa lives. No Kevin was a great recruiter and that is obvious but it was also painfully obvious he was not a good in game coach. He was against bad teams where his talent would over power but good teams exposed him and he never seemed to have an answer. He typically got out coached in the biggest of games. Seemed like a nice guy though but I doubt he has much success at Washington but he can bank some cash.

[Bigbluebrotha]

Really? Yeah not so much. They would not have ever beaten UCONN and Stanford beat them by 40. Not to mention legitimate national contenders don't blow 10 point leads on their home court when they are playing for their ncaa lives. No Kevin was a great recruiter and that is obvious but it was also painfully obvious he was not a good in game coach. He was against bad teams where his talent would over power but good teams exposed him and he never seemed to have an answer. He typically got out coached in the biggest of games. Seemed like a nice guy though but I doubt he has much success at Washington but he can bank some cash.

Keep this in mind regarding McGuff's bench coaching abilities. I think he placed the responsibility for the offense in his players' hands and allowed them to make decisions and blend their talents. Yes there was a framework, but it seemed there were many options in the sets. The rare times that approach didn't work, he was accountable each and every time and I think that's what every program wants in its coach.

In his UW comments yesterday a phrase oft uttered by departing Xavier coaches came to the fore - "better resources," which I'm sure is true with the pending PAC 12 TV deal. Maybe if all the passion expressed for the women's program in this thread were expressed more regularly, specifically in the ticket sales area, the resources would be there and we wouldn't be debating this point.

Xavier will continue its excellence in developing quality teams and people through its women's program. I think Kevin McGuff will be missed, but there are quality candidates in house. If they pass, someone will value the opportunity here and will grab the chance to continue the tradition.

[X-man]

Really? Yeah not so much. They would not have ever beaten UCONN and Stanford beat them by 40. Not to mention legitimate national contenders don't blow 10 point leads on their home court when they are playing for their ncaa lives. No Kevin was a great recruiter and that is obvious but it was also painfully obvious he was not a good in game coach. He was against bad teams where his talent would over power but good teams exposed him and he never seemed to have an answer. He typically got out coached in the biggest of games. Seemed like a nice guy though but I doubt he has much success at Washington but he can bank some cash.

I agree with everything you say, but I question the "great recruiter" bit. He lucked into Amber Harris, as I recall, because of stuff going on at Purdue. And with Amber here, Tashia followed. However I have not been overly impressed with his recruits besides those two players.

[cinskyline]

Deleted -- way way too harsh.

I'd rather just move on than focus on the negatives.

[Masterofreality]

In his UW comments yesterday a phrase oft uttered by departing Xavier coaches came to the fore - "better resources," which I'm sure is true with the pending PAC 12 TV deal. Maybe if all the passion expressed for the women's program in this thread were expressed more regularly, specifically in the ticket sales area, the resources would be there and we wouldn't be debating this point.


I'm sick of guys who don't get it done falling back on the "better resources" crap.

What? You've been playing in a garage for the last 8 years? You haven't had the "resources" to recruit? You haven't had enough financial support? I call BS!

I note that the National Title Game last night in the basketball hotbed of Indianapolis drew a crowd of 17,000. That is some throng for a Title game. I don't know what some of these guys expect. UCon(n) and Stanford are the huge exception to interest in women's basketball. PERIOD.

Did McGuff have enough "resources" to recruit two pending WNBA first rounders? Yep. Did he have enough "resources" to play in a first class building? Yep. Did he have enough "resources" for the school to externally promote the product? Yep. Did he have the "resources" for the team to travel properly? Yep. Did he have enough "resources" for the team to be on national TV a few times during the year? Yep.

I guess the only "resources" that he wasn't satisfied with were those in his own paycheck. He sure corrected that.

As for the "passion". How about the students, who get in for free and are so great at the men's games, showing up? I noted very empty student sections at the games I saw- even against hated udump.

[xavierj]

I'm sick of guys who don't get it done falling back on the "better resources" crap.

What? You've been playing in a garage for the last 8 years? You haven't had the "resources" to recruit? You haven't had enough financial support? I call BS!

I note that the National Title Game last night in the basketball hotbed of Indianapolis drew a crowd of 17,000. That is some throng for a Title game. I don't know what some of these guys expect. UCon(n) and Stanford are the huge exception to interest in women's basketball. PERIOD.

Did McGuff have enough "resources" to recruit two pending WNBA first rounders? Yep. Did he have enough "resources" to play in a first class building? Yep. Did he have enough "resources" for the school to externally promote the product? Yep. Did he have the "resources" for the team to travel properly? Yep. Did he have enough "resources" for the team to be on national TV a few times during the year? Yep.

I guess the only "resources" that he wasn't satisfied with were those in his own paycheck. He sure corrected that.

As for the "passion". How about the students, who get in for free and are so great at the men's games, showing up? I noted very empty student sections at the games I saw- even against hated udump.

Yep.

[Bigbluebrotha]

Masterofreality - Nicely done. Still can't blame a guy for upgrading.

I only wish the interest in the program was consistently this strong during the season. It always takes a really big game or a tumultuous event to get most to even think about the team.

[Bigbluebrotha]

I agree with everything you say, but I question the "great recruiter" bit. He lucked into Amber Harris, as I recall, because of stuff going on at Purdue. And with Amber here, Tashia followed. However I have not been overly impressed with his recruits besides those two players.

So what are we to make of Special Jennings, Katie Rutan, Tyeasha Moss, Tudy Reed, Joei Clyburn, Miranda Green, Suntana Granderson, Jerri Taylor and Michele Miller?

[Masterofreality]

So what are we to make of Special Jennings, Katie Rutan, Tyeasha Moss, Tudy Reed, Joei Clyburn, Miranda Green, Suntana Granderson, Jerri Taylor and Michele Miller?

Let's still not forget Tara Boothe and Dee Dee Jernigan.

When you list that roster of talent, McGuff's record is even more suspect. Those are some seriously talented players.

I'm sorry. I have a personal rule that I now do not publically trash a coach when he is at XU- even if I think that the guy is screwing up, but I'm opening the vent now. And now he's saying that he went because he needed more "resources"? That really frosts me.

[Bigbluebrotha]

Master - I understand and share the frustration. We can debate forever on what could've been with the program, but the fact is the coach left.

He didn't state resources as the sole reason and also said he wouldn't have gone to just any situation, he wanted the right situation for his family. He was asked about UCLA's opening and stated he didn't consider it because that area wasn't a good fit for his family.

It's not as if he just left for the sake of leaving, he left for a new challenge in a new conference and, yes, a much bigger paycheck. I still can't blame a soon-to-be-father of five for the move.

[SixFig]

I don't want to sound ungrateful, but how does a team with the female equivalents of Kevin Durant and Greg Oden on the same team not make it past the second round?

[Bigbluebrotha]

I don't want to sound ungrateful, but how does a team with the female equivalents of Kevin Durant and Greg Oden on the same team not make it past the second round?

This staff gave the players a stake of ownership in the program and the players had a substandard five minutes against a team that made them pay. Coach McGuff, to his credit, said he should've been able to put the team in a better position to win, but that's somewhat tough when the team isn't helping itself.

The beauty and intrigue of collegiate athletics is that games turn at a moments notice, Xavier, sadly, was just on the wrong side of it this time.

[Masterofreality]

He didn't state resources as the sole reason and also said he wouldn't have gone to just any situation, he wanted the right situation for his family. He was asked about UCLA's opening and stated he didn't consider it because that area wasn't a good fit for his family.


And I guess since, you know, he is from Hamilton, that the "right situation for his family" or the "right area for his family" wasn't in southwestern Ohio. This despite him always claiming that Xavier was his "dream job."

A move to Washington just fits right in with that "family" comment.

Look, man. I'd just rather have the guy tell the truth.

"I came out here because they opened up the bank vault for me- more than I could have ever imagined."

Good riddance. I'm glad he's gone. Let's get ourselves a much better coach.

[Bigbluebrotha]

And I guess since, you know, he is from Hamilton, that the "right situation for his family" or the "right area for his family" wasn't in southwestern Ohio. This despite him always claiming that Xavier was his "dream job."

A move to Washington just fits right in with that "family" comment.

Look, man. I'd just rather have the guy tell the truth.

"I came out here because they opened up the bank vault for me- more than I could have ever imagined."

Good riddance. I'm glad he's gone. Let's get ourselves a much better coach.

I think we've adequately outlined different views on the situation. Let's just close this book and get behind whoever is next to lead the program and the ladies that will be playing next season.

[XU 87]

And I guess since, you know, he is from Hamilton, that the "right situation for his family" or the "right area for his family" wasn't in southwestern Ohio. This despite him always claiming that Xavier was his "dream job."

A move to Washington just fits right in with that "family" comment.



I think a good argument could be made that tripling your salary is a good move for your family. And in regards to his "dream job" comments, would you rather have him say when he took the X job, "I plan to be here for a few years until something really good comes along."?

I hate to see what some people will say about Bobinski if he ever leaves. He has interviewed for other jobs.

[Masterofreality]

I think a good argument could be made that tripling your salary is a good move for your family. And in regards to his "dream job" comments, would you rather have him say when he took the X job, "I plan to be here for a few years until something really good comes along."?

I hate to see what some people will say about Bobinski if he ever leaves. He has interviewed for other jobs.

I've vented enough about McGuff. (Hey a poet and don't know it.)

If Mike Bobinski ever leaves I will give him a hearty salute and a job well done. He has certainly given XU more than just a cup of coffee on a stepping stone. Staying around through numerous coaching changes and program developments shows enough loyalty to me. If he wanted to leave now to set up his future bank account, I'm fine with it. I'd be very sad to lose him, but not angry.