Ex-Auburn (football) players tell HBO they were paid

[waggy]

This is entertaining (http://chip-patterson.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/28142828)

[coasterville95]

Hope the NCAA isn't watching :)

Time until an Alabama fan burns off a DVD of the program and sends it the NCAA FedEx?

[xavierj]

NCAA will tell these guys that they are making a mistake and it was really Alabama St that was paying players.

[GoMuskies]

Cleveland State is going down hard! Watch out Kevin Mackey!

[DC Muskie]

I like how Ohio State is denying any wrongdoing.

"Hell no we didn't give recruits any women to hump all weekend."

It's just funny.

[wkrq59]

There is one way for almost anyone to verify the veracity of all this: Turn the matter over to the IRS. I am quite sure those "poor" football players didn't bother to pay income tax on their "handshakes." Might also be a good idea to have the recipients of the "sexual favors" check themselves out for STDs and HIV.
Seriously, if we are talking about money in the "thousands of dollars," that's one helluva lot of unreported income.
:cool::eek::mad:

[smileyy]

I am quite sure those "poor" football players didn't bother to pay income tax on their "handshakes."


Great, punish the athletes more when the school is at fault?


Might also be a good idea to have the recipients of the "sexual favors" check themselves out for STDs and HIV.

Millions of people manage to have casual sex everyday without getting an STD.

[Smails]

Great, punish the athletes more when the school is at fault?



Millions of people manage to have casual sex everyday without getting an STD.


Yes, the athletes have no culpability in this whatsoever. Get a clue. These 'kids' know exactly how the game is played and they love to play it.


Regarding the whole STD thing...you don't think he should get checked? Yeah I'm sure the gal he stroked was a pure as the driven snow..probably a virgin. Sounds like a class A skank, but hey millions of people have casual sex so he's in the clear.

[Juice]

Yes, the athletes have no culpability in this whatsoever. Get a clue. These 'kids' know exactly how the game is played and they love to play it.


Regarding the whole STD thing...you don't think he should get checked? Yeah I'm sure the gal he stroked was a pure as the driven snow..probably a virgin. Sounds like a class A skank, but hey millions of people have casual sex so he's in the clear.

Yeah, it is pretty obvious that this kid knew exactly what was going on at the time. Both parties were/are guilty.

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ex-auburn-players-claim-systematic-pay-to-play-29592
Transcripts of the interview that is to air tonight on HBO

[smileyy]

Yeah, but what are the kids "guilty" of? Getting paid for making a *($#ton of money for the university and the NCAA?

[Smails]

Yeah, but what are the kids "guilty" of? Getting paid for making a *($#ton of money for the university and the NCAA?

No. They're guilty of breaking the NCAA rules that govern student athletes and their eligibility. The might also be guilty of tax evasion. Just beacuse you don't agree with the rules doesn't mean they are any less guilty.

I think grass should be legalized but that's not much of a defense if I get popped for posession. There are consequences for breaking rules.

[XULucho27]

Yeah, but what are the kids "guilty" of? Getting paid for making a *($#ton of money for the university and the NCAA?

Agree with it or not, those are the current rules. The athletes know the rules, they know what they're doing, and for the most part, they know when they break the rules.

I, in part, agree with you. What have these kids really done that is so inappropriate? Universities are making millions of dollars from them, is it so wrong for them to want a piece of that? After all, they're working their assess off for the school.

But, at the end of the day, the rules are in place and they must abide by them regardless of whether we think it is fair or not. Like it or not, they are guilty of violating these rules.

Edit: Beat me to it Smails.

[drudy23]

Auburn students got paid? I am shocked and utterly disappointed.

Not really.

Guess what, I would guess that the majority of major program athletes get some sort of extra compensation. Yes, even Xavier players.

Not saying it's right...just saying it happens everywhere.

Yes, here too.

[wkrq59]

Seems like a lot of equivocation and two wrongs making a right going on here. Yes, the current quasi-amateur athletic climate these days--maybe for the last century, remember Jim Thorpe?--is definitely not ideal.
But a reminder. Rabid, uncontrolled fans and boosters will always be around pressing bills into athletes hands. And of course pussy will still trump virtue when it comes to luring a teenage boy nearing manhood into what may be the mistake of a lifetime.
Yeah, I remember the snow-bank road to hell stories told us every frigging high school retreat. And if truth be known, aside from the IRS remark, I wasn't AMA serious when I noted the STD and HIV dangers.
I'm well aware of Pell grants, for which many Xavier and other schools' athletes would not qualify, can somewhat ease the pain of trying to live on a weekend or have even a remote semblance of social life in a city like Cincinnati.
But I fail to see--maybe I'm just too damned old to comprehend although I doubt it--where the NCAA member institutions and their monolith enforcement agent making millions on the backs of athletes who have room, books, board and tuition covered for four years justifies what that story described. Yes, that still doesn't cover a date night or just a gathering of your peers in whatever passes for non-alcoholic on campus.
Oh, believe me I understand man does not live by soft drinks or lemonade alone. Hell the beer stories told on this and the other X forum have long dispelled any such notion. Dana's forever, Chief Hook never.
Simply put, this is the time of year when any scandal involving poor under paid and appreciated athletes grabs huge headlines or more than a 30 second on air mention.
I believe Xavier for the most part is NCAA clean. I know institutional control exists and I also know academic fraud does not . And I also know that despite every well-intentioned effort, coaches and administrators can't watch every athlete every hour of the day. Attempts to bend the rules like the poor will always be with us.
When I dug into the University of Cincinnati post-Cattlett probation in 1978,offenses, the UC callers to Bob Trumpy's show and other public forums including letters to the editor, focused almost to a call or letter that what UC was accused of doing was far less egreggious than the "stuff UK and OSU, and all the big SEC and Big Ten schools pull. And Wendell Gale Catlett was deified because after all, "he won" and he didn't seem like a bad guy.:D
The only thing I can say about this whole mess is I would not want to be a coach or athlete at Auburn University, or Ohio State, or LSU, or any other of the major major football factories.

[X Communicator]

Okay, everyone needs to go to confession here: players, coaches, and the NCAA. Focusing on one issue here--the NCAA and its policies re. no compensation to players--might want to watch this current Frontline episode (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/money-and-march-madness/). Really solid advocacy journalism, imo.

Can't say little enough about Mark Emmert, the NCAA prez.