Butler vs Wisconsin

[MADXSTER]

Who will win??

[picknroll]

Who will win??

Just can't bet against Butler this time of year. The Bulldogs by 5.

[MADXSTER]

I took Wisconsin and am already regretting it.

[Muskie91]

Wisky by 3 - The shoot much better!

[Snipe]

I want the Bulldogs playing for another Final Four. Just imagine that.

[LutherRackleyRulez]

Gotta luv the GINGER!

ON WISCONSIN!
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[xubrew]

Just can't bet against Butler this time of year. The Bulldogs by 5.

if butler wins, it will most likely be a much closer game than that...

since the second round last year, only one of butler's games has been decided by more than four points, and that was the elite eight win against kansas state.

[xavierj]

if butler wins, it will most likely be a much closer game than that...

since the second round last year, only one of butler's games has been decided by more than four points, and that was the elite eight win against kansas state.

well they are winning by 9 right now and dominating so it looks like it could be more than 5.

[stophorseabuse]

We gotta give Butler the credit they have EARNED at this point. Following up last year, with the loss of a lottery pick, and still crackin heads in the NCAA tourney. They are the real deal. Stevens is the real deal.

[gladdenguy]

Talk about an a$$ whippin....jeezul.

Butler against Florida for back to back final fours.

I'm so jealous of Butler. If we ever went to back to back final fours I would french kiss anybody and everybody on this board. And yes, I know I would have at least one STD from DC.

[xsteve1]

It's just amazing Butler can get over the hump and we never can. What could've been last year if Miller had stayed. Brown, Crawford, Holloway, Parrom, Love etc. X will hopefully get a break one of these years. If Holloway bolts it will be a few more years before we can even set our sights on a Final Four.

[waggy]

Why'd this Jordan Taylor clown get promoted for national recog as a great player? He's looked like trash everytime I've watched him play.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Why'd this Jordan Taylor clown get promoted for national recog as a great player? He's looked like trash everytime I've watched him play.

Agreed. He had a really good game against OSU but I haven't seen him do much since, at least the games I've watched. Leur is such a wimp too, the guy is 6'11'' but lives on the perimeter.

[The_Mack_Pack]

4 point game with a minute and half to go.

[SixFig]

It's just amazing Butler can get over the hump and we never can. What could've been last year if Miller had stayed. Brown, Crawford, Holloway, Parrom, Love etc. X will hopefully get a break one of these years. If Holloway bolts it will be a few more years before we can even set our sights on a Final Four.

Well we beat Butler this year so its not like we were that far away. Butler got a chance rebound to win vs. ODU, then another break vs. Pitt. It's all about breaks and matchups.

I believe in Chris Mack

[MADXSTER]

I suck.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Butler just keeps advancing, somehow. They have gone down to the wire a few times with Florida in the past, I wouldn't expect anything different on Saturday.

[X4LIFE]

When will we get over the hump? It is a little disappointing to see one team X beat (Butler) and one we nearly did (Florida) have a shot at the final four. Not to mention, to see players who could be in a Xavier uni (Parrom and Kryl) playing for a final four. I'm not too concerned with Miller and Matta. Mack is very capable of getting X there. But, every year we seem ready to break through we have a player or a coach leave and we have to regroup thus setting us back. I love seeing Butler do so well in the tourney these past couple years. But I can't help thinking it should be X. I kind of feel like a lot of us (fans) have a chip on our shoulder, and rightfully so. As X fans these past ten years we have seen and been through some setbacks and always come out of it successfully, winning championships, making sweet 16s and elite 8s, albeit it never fully realizing what we covet most...a final four. I hope the recruits come in feeling a sense of urgency, ready to learn and contribute right away. I am ready fo a run next year.

[OTRMUSKIE]

I love Butler but for crying out loud their fans are getting on my nerves. You guys went to the NC game last year and you still struggle to get fans in your seats. Here is the latest from their board.

I hope every Xavier fan feels incredibly inferior, and that all other Mid-Majors feel inspired.

The phrase "the next Gonzaga" has been officially retired. Butler is the face of college basketball.

I don't see Xavier having this success hahahaha

Lets see how you guys do after your seniors leave and your coach is gone. Been doing pretty well with losing coaches but I think this will be your last great run.

http://buhoops.yuku.com/topic/7350/Elite-8

[OTRMUSKIE]

Just took at look at the national runner ups attendance and for a school that was a shot away from the National Title they sure as hell don't go to the games. I am very jealous of Butlers success as of late but you guys still have a little way to go before you're on Xavier's level. Congrats though on another fantastic season. Go support that team Indy

Their place seats 11,043 and here is their attendance numbers in order.

6,825
7,038
6,622
5,677
8,012 VS Stanford. It was the first time CBS televised a game from Hinkle Fieldhouse
8,024
7,071
5,789
7,666
6,745
5,287
9,004
10,000 Last home game of the season still didnt sell out
avg:7212

Xavier's home attendance, Capacity 10,250 with no bleacher seats ;)

10,250
9,949
9,562
10,250
10,250
10,004
10,250
9,832
10,250
10,250
9,824
10,250
10,250 Fordham one of the worse teams in the world
10,054
10,250 senior night
avg:10098

[Coogles]

Just took at look at the national runner ups attendance and for a school that was a shot away from the National Title they sure as hell don't go to the games. I am very jealous of Butlers success as of late but you guys still have a little way to go before you're on Xavier's level. Congrats though on another fantastic season. Go support that team Indy

Their place seats 11,043 and here is their attendance numbers in order.

6,825
7,038
6,622
5,677
8,012 VS Stanford. It was the first time CBS televised a game from Hinkle Fieldhouse
8,024
7,071
5,789
7,666
6,745
5,287
9,004
10,000 Last home game of the season still didnt sell out
avg:7212

Xavier's home attendance, Capacity 10,250 with no bleacher seats ;)

10,250
9,949
9,562
10,250
10,250
10,004
10,250
9,832
10,250
10,250
9,824
10,250
10,250 Fordham one of the worse teams in the world
10,054
10,250 senior night
avg:10098

That final home game of the year was indeed sold out. Official capacity is 10k, not 11,043.

[Masterofreality]

Can someone tell me why Bo Ryan is held up to be this "coaching genius". The "coaches coach"?

We kicked his ass out of the Tournament in Boise a couple of years ago and his teams play ugly basketball. They scored all of 33 points in a Big Ten Tournament game against that powerhouse Penn State.

As for Butler, they have had quite a bit of fortunate luck the last two years aided greatly by Xavier's taking K-State to double OT and some pretty favorable matchups. Despite Mack being back next year, there is no one on that roster other than him who impresses me.

Brad Stevens does impress me, however. That guy can coach and motivate, but not necessarily more than CMack. I don't know if Butler can keep him after this. He's got big, big dollar offers on the way.

Our time is a comin' very, very soon.

[kyxu]

I love Butler but for crying out loud their fans are getting on my nerves. You guys went to the NC game last year and you still struggle to get fans in your seats. Here is the latest from their board.

I hope every Xavier fan feels incredibly inferior, and that all other Mid-Majors feel inspired.

The phrase "the next Gonzaga" has been officially retired. Butler is the face of college basketball.

I don't see Xavier having this success hahahaha

Lets see how you guys do after your seniors leave and your coach is gone. Been doing pretty well with losing coaches but I think this will be your last great run.

http://buhoops.yuku.com/topic/7350/Elite-8

You know you have a choice not to visit their board, right? So I'd say you're equally as responsible for them getting on your nerves as they are.

Though I don't know why, in the moments after they clinched a second straight elite eight with the chance to go to a consecutive Final Four, they're talking about Xavier. Why?

[xavier3]

Wow, comparing our attendance with theirs, #not winning...with this logic, UDump should play for the Title every year

[xubrew]

Wow, comparing our attendance with theirs, #not winning...with this logic, UDump should play for the Title every year

i was thinking the same thing, but you beat me to it.

[kyxu]

Wow, comparing our attendance with theirs, #not winning...with this logic, UDump should play for the Title every year

Agreed. I keep hearing this stuff about how Butler's athletic model will not be able to sustain long-term success.

I don't know about you guys, but I would have trouble complaining about a couple Final Fours and a national championship game appearance.

[gladdenguy]

Who cares how many people attend their games. They are a frickin powerhouse now. What else can you say. A National Championship game then an elite 8 after losing their best player....heck they could still win the whole frickin thing.
I'm super jealous. I'm not sure in my lifetime Xavier will ever get to a final four much less a national championship game.
I'm super jealous. I don't care about attendance or them not winning the Horizon League...they get it done when it counts.

Sucks. Bad.

[danaandvictory]

Their system is perfect for winning in the tournament. They slow down the game, they hit free throws, they don't turn the ball over. As long as they are in the same stratosphere talentwise as the team they are playing, they have a decent shot at winning. It's admirable. Stevens is a phenomenal coach that has taken the basic "values" put in place by Collier, Matta, Lickliter and upgraded recruiting and pregame preparation.

[MADXSTER]

Who cares how many people attend their games. They are a frickin powerhouse now. What else can you say. A National Championship game then an elite 8 after losing their best player....heck they could still win the whole frickin thing.
I'm super jealous. I'm not sure in my lifetime Xavier will ever get to a final four much less a national championship game.
I'm super jealous. I don't care about attendance or them not winning the Horizon League...they get it done when it counts.

Sucks. Bad.

Agree. I'm rooting for any non-BCS school when it comes tournament tme. Butler's attendance is on the rise and that's what counts for their program. I also hope that Brad Stevens stays at Butler and Mack stays at Xavier and both kick the trend of coaches leaving for money or whatever.

[LutherRackleyRulez]

Can someone tell me why Bo Ryan is held up to be this "coaching genius". The "coaches coach"?



MOR,

No doubt --- Bo's post season record is mediocre.....

but these factoids are impressive....


At the end of the 2010-11 season Ryan had a 72.7 winning percentage at Wisconsin.

He has a 76.3 career winning percentage.
Among coaches with 500 career wins his percentage ranks second only to Roy Williams.

In Big Ten Conference play Ryan has a 71.4 winning percentage.
That ranks first all time among Big Ten coaches with at least five years of experience




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo_Ryan

[xavierj]

MOR,

No doubt --- Bo's post season record is mediocre.....

but these factoids are impressive....


At the end of the 2010-11 season Ryan had a 72.7 winning percentage at Wisconsin.

He has a 76.3 career winning percentage.
Among coaches with 500 career wins his percentage ranks second only to Roy Williams.

In Big Ten Conference play Ryan has a 71.4 winning percentage.
That ranks first all time among Big Ten coaches with at least five years of experience




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo_Ryan





Bo and Jamie Dixon should get together and celebrate that awesome regular season success on an annual basis while they watch Butler and Brad Stevens show them what is really important.

[xubrew]

i think this year's run to the elite eight is ten times more suprising than their run to the title game last year.

their run last year was unexpected, but it didn't come completely out of the blue. they were a top fifteen team all year, and had played some really good teams really tough during the regular season. they also looked the part. the horizon league isn't full of juggernots, but they blew through it like you would expect a top ten team to do, and did so with a big bullseye on their back every time they played on the road.

this year, there were times butler didn't even look like a top 110 team, much less a top ten team. i wasn't even expecting them to get an at-large without winning the conference tourney. seeing as how they got a #8 seed they probably would have, but at the time i, and i think many others, thought that was way high. even most of their own fans weren't comfortable that they'd get in without the automatic bid.

and now they're in the elite eight. a team that just over two weeks ago people were wondering if they'd even make the dance is now in the elite eight.

even when george mason made the final four, they were ranked #25 to end the year. again, it was unexpected, but they had looked good all year long. this butler team really didn't. i was surprised last year, but i'm blown away this year.

[waggy]

Just shows how much psyche and attitude, match-ups, and a little good fortune mean to a tourney run.

ODU was a good team. Could easily be them in this position, but they didn't play particularly well against Butler.

Pitt overlooked Butler a little.

Wisconsin ended the year flat.

Not trying to take anything away from Butler, but they've definitely had some good fortune making this run. And they've play well too.

I'm not jealous of Butler. That just seems silly to me. Non-BCS programs that play well kinda need each other so as not to get locked out from having quality OOC opponents.