Screw BCS

[stophorseabuse]

Seven of the 16 teams moving on to the 'third' round are non BCS schools.

Gonzaga (BCS win)
BYU
SDSU
Butler
Richmond (BCS win)
Temple (BCS win)
Morehead (BCS win)

Anywhere where there was a matchup between BCS/Non BCS that wasn't low majors against 1-4 seeds, the Non BCS more than held there own. Not one BCS program showed up one of the 'mid majors'.

College hoops fans are very naive.

[xu95]

Let's make it at least one more tonight.

[XULucho27]

And yet people pick the upset because of reasons like these:


Ezekowitz said Xavier looks vulnerable primarily because it played a weak schedule. Marquette, meanwhile, forces turnovers, holds onto the ball and survived the brutal Big East.

This is my mantra all day long boys. When I start to lose focus or become less angry or more rational I will repeat this mantra to myself to lather me up into a foamy rage. I swear on the souls of my unborn children we will feast on those cowards from the Big East tonight and Sunday. The Big East has corrupted one of our fellow Jesuit institutions into believing they are better then everyone else because of conference affiliation. We have to win this one for JESUITS everywhere!!

In less than 8 hours, Xavier fans from here will join others from around the country. And you will launch the longest NCAA Tournament run in the history of the Musketeers. "Musketeers." That word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty message board differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it's fate that today is the Round of 64, and you will once again be cheering for our victory... Not a victory over The Big East, BCS, or mid-major label... but from elimination.
We are fighting for our right to advance. To win. And should we win the day, the NCAA Tournament will no longer be known as a BCS conference platform, but as the day the Musketeers declared in one voice: "We will not go quietly into the night!" We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate our run to the Final Four!

LET'S ROLL THE BIG EAST!!

[BiggieXU]

And yet people pick the upset because of reasons like these:



This is my mantra all day long boys. When I start to lose focus or become less angry or more rational I will repeat this mantra to myself to lather me up into a foamy rage. I swear on the souls of my unborn children we will feast on those cowards from the Big East tonight and Sunday. The Big East has corrupted one of our fellow Jesuit institutions into believing they are better then everyone else because of conference affiliation. We have to win this one for JESUITS everywhere!!

In less than 8 hours, Xavier fans from here will join others from around the country. And you will launch the longest NCAA Tournament run in the history of the Musketeers. "Musketeers." That word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can't be consumed by our petty message board differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps it's fate that today is the Round of 64, and you will once again be cheering for our victory... Not a victory over The Big East, BCS, or mid-major label... but from elimination.
We are fighting for our right to advance. To win. And should we win the day, the NCAA Tournament will no longer be known as a BCS conference platform, but as the day the Musketeers declared in one voice: "We will not go quietly into the night!" We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive! Today we celebrate our run to the Final Four!

LET'S ROLL THE BIG EAST!!


Didn't think that'd work, oh well, someone else will have to post Bill Pullman's picture

[stophorseabuse]

Today I am looking for George Mason, Xavier, Memphis, UNLV, VCU to get scalps. I also think we see a major upset today. Maybe an Akron over ND.

IF these guys can do this a serious statement would be sent about letting in .500 bcs teams who beat up on each other, while never playing a soul away from home before beating themselves.

Think about a team like UC. They are my example because I'm more familiar with them.

They played no one decent outside of Cincinnati before the BE schedule started. Then, they go 3-9 against a bunch of other teams that mostly proved nothing away from home during the non-con. 7-0 against BAD teams like South Florida, Depaul, Seton Hall, Rutgers, Providence.

We have already seen Louisville beat by Morehead, St. Johns destroyed by Gonzaga, Villanova suddenly beat NO ONE, Marquette in at 9-9, Georgetown beat NO ONE who ever proved anything. These people are just nutty.

Out of 16 BE teams, lets look at TOTAL decent road wins not against each other.

ODU (3 pts)
Memphis
Texas (OT)

Now , road LOSSES

St. Joes
Fordham
UCF
Kent
Fl Atlantic
Indiana St.
St. Mary's
Boston College
Princeton
Tennessee
Temple
Vandy
Miami (FL)
ETC ETC ETC.

They only played about 30 total road games as a league, and won less than half, and only had 3 quality wins as an entire league. One was a 12 seed that had to win their conference tourney to get to the dance, One 3 pt win over an 8 seed, and an overtime win against a 4 seed.

That was ALL.

How does NOBODY pick up on this.

[xu05usmc]

Think about a team like UC. They are my example because I'm more familiar with them.

They played no one decent outside of Cincinnati before the BE schedule started. Then, they go 3-9 against a bunch of other teams that mostly proved nothing away from home during the non-con. 7-0 against BAD teams like South Florida, Depaul, Seton Hall, Rutgers, Providence.



UC is a bad example to prove this point. Our guys looked like they had no business being in the same gym when they played. Plus if you are going to say they played a weak non-Conf schedule, thats okay. At least give them credit for taking care of business and going undefeated against it (would our guys have?). I think Cronin is a better coach than any of us are willing to admit. I think UC is a better team than any of us are willing to admit. I say rather than sitting around and bitching about BCS conferences, our guys go out show why they are one of the premier programs in the nation. Which is something that every pundit and expert is willing to admit and say, regardless of what we say on this board. Butler proved you don't have to be a BCS team of Calipari-Memphis team to contend for the title. Now it is our turn.

[MADXSTER]

UC is a bad example to prove this point. Our guys looked like they had no business being in the same gym when they played. Plus if you are going to say they played a weak non-Conf schedule, thats okay. At least give them credit for taking care of business and going undefeated against it (would our guys have?). I think Cronin is a better coach than any of us are willing to admit. I think UC is a better team than any of us are willing to admit. I say rather than sitting around and bitching about BCS conferences, our guys go out show why they are one of the premier programs in the nation. Which is something that every pundit and expert is willing to admit and say, regardless of what we say on this board. Butler proved you don't have to be a BCS team of Calipari-Memphis team to contend for the title. Now it is our turn.

Disagree. UC is a good team but they proved next to nothing in OOC. Their OOC schedule was ranked 346 of 347. Without the win over XU they are 347. I don't have a problem giving them credit but come on. 346 for any team sucks much less a team saying their top 25 material(at the time) after going 15-0 in OOC. Give them credit when it's due but rag on them when it is also due. You defend them an awful lot when IMO it's not worthy(I'm talking about OOC).

[stophorseabuse]

UC is a bad example to prove this point. Our guys looked like they had no business being in the same gym when they played. Plus if you are going to say they played a weak non-Conf schedule, thats okay. At least give them credit for taking care of business and going undefeated against it (would our guys have?). I think Cronin is a better coach than any of us are willing to admit. I think UC is a better team than any of us are willing to admit. I say rather than sitting around and bitching about BCS conferences, our guys go out show why they are one of the premier programs in the nation. Which is something that every pundit and expert is willing to admit and say, regardless of what we say on this board. Butler proved you don't have to be a BCS team of Calipari-Memphis team to contend for the title. Now it is our turn.

UC was just used to prove my point. Not that UC is bad, they aren't this year. To prove the Big East plays a game with the pundits each year by never doing what Xavier and many others do. They NEVER play on the road, load up on wins at home, mostly against bad teams, and then beat up on other teams that did the same thing, finish 9-9, in their league, and then scream how they DESERVE everybody to get in because their league is so tough.

The last 2 years Xavier has played in the gyms of Gonzaga, Florida, Alabama, Cincinnati, Wake Forest, Butler, Georgia, and surely some I am leaving off the list.

Honestly, if the entire A-10 only played one road game a piece we would go into the conference with a record of something like 130-50. 8-10 teams would already have 11 or more wins. Do you think 9-9 St. Bonaventure (Marquette) would be given a bid because they won 5 games against Fordham (Depaul), Charlotte (South Florida) LaSalle (Rutgers), and twice agains St. Joes (Seton Hall).

It is not about who is better. It is about the fact they get 11 of 16 teams in when the entire conference really proved very little during the non-conference.

That said, These guys CAN beat most teams, but other than Pitt, who from the Big East do you see winning 15 games, or even 13 in the A-10. They don't win road games ALL YEAR. Then, they go 1-8 on the road in conference, but STILL get a bid.

Duquesne lost one game on their homecourt in the non-con. They lost a bunch of road games. They went 10-6 in the A-10. Even if Duquesne had went 13-1 Non conference with all home games, they would NOT have got in. Very little different from what the Big East does, but you don't have 10 other teams with inflated records.

What if the A-10 had all scheduled like Syracuse, 11 easy wins, then went into conference and finished 9-7. By beating a bunch of other teams with 11 non conference home wins. Do you actually think we are better teams because we are beating teams with lots of wins? The big east relies on the media to make them appear to be all powerful. They might get a team to the final 4. With 11 teams in the field somebody is bound to get hot. They will get several to the sweet 16, especially since they will be playing each other in round 3 after getting inflated seeds. The conference will reap all that extra money.

I don't BLAME the BE teams for doing this. It is smart. It leads to big pay days, and easy recruiting. I blame the NCAA for falling for the hype. The top 5 BE teams are usually good enough to get themselves in without the schenanigans, but to consider the 10-8 teams to be far superior to dozens of teams left out of the field from conferences like the MVC, A-10, Horizon, MWC, etc. is just silly. Louisville was the first team to get exposed for that. It wasn't a fluke. Morehead is as good as them. We are talking about a 9 seed difference, and one team that wouldn't have made it without winning their conference. Morehead prob. beats them 4/10 times on a neutral court. Gonzaga beats St. Johns 7 of 10 times on a neutral court.

The fluff bestowed on you for being in the BE is out of control, that is the point. If you are in the big east and are just an AVERAGE overall team, you are guaranteed an NCAA bid. All 5 teams that didn't make it were TERRIBLE.

[stophorseabuse]

Who changed the title of my thread???

Nazi's!

I joke.