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waggy
03-02-2014, 01:18 PM
It's Cronin level high road...

waggy
03-02-2014, 01:22 PM
It was hilarious to me during the Kansas-OSU pregame they showed Cronin's interview with Katz then Reece Davis said that Cronin took the high road. The high road?!?!?!?! How is Mick putting all the blame on Valentine and whining that he doesn't get the same treatment as Boeheim and Coach K taking the high road???

Typical ESPN garbage. They can literally say or write anything. It's becoming sports radio talk. With a little agenda thrown-in for good measure.

Cheesehead
03-08-2014, 09:09 AM
just wanted to keep thread going because Mick is a complete douche.

chico2663
03-09-2014, 03:59 PM
The problem was, the million dollar offers weren't to coach. The Lollipop Guild was looking for a new leader.

simple facts. mick had a private plan. Owner of plane got tired of being embarrassed by schedule. Owner took away plane.

Kahns Krazy
03-10-2014, 11:46 AM
At this point, I'm kind of hoping that UC wins their conference tournament, gets up as high as the two line, then loses to a 15 seed in the first game.

XUFan09
03-10-2014, 12:08 PM
At this point, I'm kind of hoping that UC wins their conference tournament, gets up as high as the two line, then loses to a 15 seed in the first game.

Best. Outcome. Ever.

Kahns Krazy
03-10-2014, 02:04 PM
I'd prefer they be the first and only 1 to lose to a 16, but even they aren't that vulnerable. I do think they are capable of losing to a 15 seed that is having a good shooting day.

Masterofreality
03-11-2014, 10:27 AM
I'd prefer they be the first and only 1 to lose to a 16, but even they aren't that vulnerable. I do think they are capable of losing to a 15 seed that is having a good shooting day.

Yes!!!!! Be the only 1 ever to lose to a 16. Infamy forever and an epic YTG meltdown would ensue.

American X
03-15-2014, 07:13 AM
I made the mistake of clicking on the Enquirer UC write-up to find out what the 'controversy' was only to find this gem:

"I'm not tall enough to see stuff like that," said UC coach Mick Cronin. "You really think that they're going to call that for Cincinnati? What games have you been watching all year?"

Right, this Lenten season, let us all pray for the end of the persecution of Mick Cronin and the UC Bearcats.

But at least he is self-aware of his stature and now he is free to ride the parade float like usual.



http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2011/top10_tiny/leprechaun.jpg

xubball1993
03-15-2014, 08:52 AM
UC and UD losing makes me feel mildly better about X coming up short last night.

xubrew
03-15-2014, 01:24 PM
There are blow by hand shakes, and then there was Mick Cronin and Kevin Ollie last night. It was a run by handshake. It was beautiful!!

I am no longer annoyed by Mick Cronin. I'm now simply amused by him.

It's crazy how unfairly his team is treated by the conference, and by the nation. I did some research on this. Did you realize that UC is forced to play HALF of their games away from home in league play??!! It's an outrage!!!

They also have to win as many as three games just to win the conference tournament.

And the next time a call goes their way will be the first in history.

Cheesehead
03-15-2014, 06:15 PM
There are blow by hand shakes, and then there was Mick Cronin and Kevin Ollie last night. It was a run by handshake. It was beautiful!!

I am no longer annoyed by Mick Cronin. I'm now simply amused by him.

It's crazy how unfairly his team is treated by the conference, and by the nation. I did some research on this. Did you realize that UC is forced to play HALF of their games away from home in league play??!! It's an outrage!!!

They also have to win as many as three games just to win the conference tournament.

And the next time a call goes their way will be the first in history.

Yes, it's one big freaking conspiracy, Mick. What a loser.

xu 89
03-15-2014, 08:41 PM
I actually like this year's uc players. sk and jackson seem like good dudes. but mick is just a little weasel prick.

Nigel Tufnel
03-15-2014, 10:06 PM
I actually like this year's uc players. sk and jackson seem like good dudes. but mick is just a little weasel prick.

Same with me. I'm fine with the players. I have often found myself admiring their play until the camera pans to Cronin scowling and ranting. I think the guys overall demeanor has to put him behind the 8 ball in recruiting. Maybe its just the Xavier bias....but I still think I would feel the same way if I was a college basketball fan that lived in Charlottesville and was a UVA fan.

Masterofreality
03-16-2014, 10:43 AM
There are blow by hand shakes, and then there was Mick Cronin and Kevin Ollie last night. It was a run by handshake. It was beautiful!!

I am no longer annoyed by Mick Cronin. I'm now simply amused by him.

It's crazy how unfairly his team is treated by the conference, and by the nation. I did some research on this. Did you realize that UC is forced to play HALF of their games away from home in league play??!! It's an outrage!!!

They also have to win as many as three games just to win the conference tournament.

And the next time a call goes their way will be the first in history.

And those views are obviously shared by "Angry Dan" Hoard and Chuck MudShuck.I've never heard such hacks doing college basketball radio, with no good humor at all.

Kahns Krazy
03-17-2014, 06:35 AM
Hoard doesn't bother me, but Chuck is the worst color guy in sports. Never does his homework, and half the time doesn't even know UC's players.

THRILLHOUSE
03-19-2014, 01:14 PM
the latest gem from the UC Graphics Department:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjGq8NACQAIuN6J.jpg

Kahns Krazy
03-20-2014, 03:31 PM
At least something went right. Suck it Mick.

GoMuskies
03-20-2014, 03:32 PM
Lost to a bunch of wicked smaht Haahvahd kids.

LadyMuskie
03-20-2014, 03:47 PM
the latest gem from the UC Graphics Department:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjGq8NACQAIuN6J.jpg

What in the name of God of this? Who is running their marketing department? This is why they lost. This. Right here. The basketball gods were angry for a college producing something so damn stupid.

RealDeal
03-20-2014, 03:57 PM
Thad and Mick lose in the first round, hilarious. Was listening in the car and as some guy I've never heard of for uc turned it over with under a minute to go and uc down 1 my son raised his hands and yelled YES! Attaboy.

Masterofreality
03-20-2014, 04:20 PM
Congrats to the Borecats on being in the Tournament 40 hours and no extra games over Xavier.

Yeah, that ESPN pimped Top 20 ranking sure was accurate.

Good luck next year when your leading returning scorer is Shaq Thomas at a fat 6.8ppg. Total Suck is in the forecast.

GoMuskies
03-20-2014, 04:22 PM
Congrats to the Borecats on being in the Tournament 40 hours and no extra games over Xavier.

Yeah, that ESPN pimped Top 20 ranking sure was accurate.

Good luck next year when your leading returning scorer is Shaq Thomas at a fat 6.8ppg. Total Suck is in the forecast.

On the plus side for them, they'll probably find a way to avoid playing us.

X-band '01
03-20-2014, 04:29 PM
What in the name of God of this? Who is running their marketing department? This is why they lost. This. Right here. The basketball gods were angry for a college producing something so damn stupid.

Come on now, even pizza delivery guys get sick once in a while. If UC were to advance far in the tournament, who's going to deliver them?

xubball1993
03-20-2014, 04:32 PM
Suck it UC. So happy they lost. Yes, I'm a sore loser after X goes down.

Kahns Krazy
03-20-2014, 04:49 PM
"I thought the American Athletic Conference as a whole, I think it would be very obvious to say didn't get a lot of respect from top to bottom," Cronin said.

Are you telling me Harvard wouldn't win the AAC?

Masterofreality
03-20-2014, 04:54 PM
"I thought the American Athletic Conference as a whole, I think it would be very obvious to say didn't get a lot of respect from top to bottom," Cronin said.


Only the Beginning, mickey, only the beginning.

BMoreX
03-20-2014, 05:11 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/21/2u4utuga.jpg

GuyFawkes38
06-03-2014, 08:02 PM
I've never heard of him, but apparently UC's star professor is philosopher Slavoj Zizek. He's a very inspiring teacher:
http://www.critical-theory.com/professor-of-the-year-if-you-dont-give-me-any-of-your-shitty-papers-you-get-an-a/


“I hate students,” he said, “they are (as all people) mostly stupid and boring.

And


“I did teach a class here [at the University of Cincinnati] and all of the grading was pure bluff,” he continues. “I even told students at the New School for example… if you don’t give me any of your shitty papers, you get an A. If you give me a paper I may read it and not like it and you can get a lower grade.” He received no papers that semester.

But it’s office hours that are the main reason he does not want to teach.

“I can’t imagine a worse experience than some idiot comes there and starts to ask you questions, which is still tolerable. The problem is that here in the United States students tend to be so open that sooner or later, if you’re kind to them, they even start to ask you personal questions [about] private problems… What should I tell them?”

“I don’t care,” he continued. “Kill yourself. It’s not my problem,”

Retire33
06-03-2014, 11:49 PM
The kill yourself line is totally intolerable and insensitive. Not to mention, it's coming on the heals of a UC student actually doing that.

GoMuskies
06-04-2014, 12:31 AM
I'm guessing this guy's syllabi do not have ridiculous "trigger warnings". I can respect that much.

Cheesehead
06-05-2014, 08:19 PM
Sounds like a conceded "I am the smartest one in the room" douchebag. I hate assholes like that.

XUFan09
06-06-2014, 08:22 AM
I've never heard of him, but apparently UC's star professor is philosopher Slavoj Zizek. He's a very inspiring teacher:
http://www.critical-theory.com/professor-of-the-year-if-you-dont-give-me-any-of-your-shitty-papers-you-get-an-a/

He's only nominally a UC professor; maybe he guest lectures there sometimes in order to earn that title. He really spends most of his time in Europe. The guy is one of the most brilliant philosophers alive today, known for his unorthodox style and provocative nature. He also is quite likely a sociopath.

waggy
06-06-2014, 09:59 AM
He's an asshole.

Kahns Krazy
06-19-2014, 09:29 AM
Mick was once again on the UCats cruise on Monday. I still can't stand that tiny turd. He actually wound up sitting at the table I was at for about 20 minutes. Some older lady (55ish?) came and sat on his lap. It was all around a weird evening.

paulxu
06-19-2014, 10:08 AM
The idea of a Ucats cruise seems a little weird.

Lamont Sanford
06-19-2014, 10:55 AM
If only it was the SS Minnow.

Kahns Krazy
06-19-2014, 11:26 AM
The idea of a Ucats cruise seems a little weird.

It's a pretty nice event. They book the largest BB Riverboat, and it's free to whoever signs up. If more people sign up than they have room, you're ranked by points. We are near the bottom of the UCat rankings and we get to go every year. Free dinner, live music and a riverboat cruise up the Ohio. They also had a bourbon sampling this year that was free. Overall, not a bad perk.

Milhouse
06-19-2014, 12:25 PM
You're saying UC fans don't show up to events?

This is just a shocking revelation.

Kahns Krazy
06-19-2014, 12:51 PM
Not at all. There are hundreds of people there. Whatever the capacity is of the largest boat.

paulxu
06-19-2014, 12:52 PM
I'm relieved he didn't punch Cronin in the face like a horse.

Then again, we could have a Free Kahns movement, or something.

blobfan
06-19-2014, 12:54 PM
Mick was once again on the UCats cruise on Monday. I still can't stand that tiny turd. He actually wound up sitting at the table I was at for about 20 minutes. Some older lady (55ish?) came and sat on his lap. It was all around a weird evening.


The idea of a Ucats cruise seems a little weird.
The idea of a woman wanting to sit on YTGs lap seems a little weird.

outsideobserver11
06-19-2014, 01:05 PM
The idea of a woman wanting to sit on YTGs lap seems a little weird.

The idea of how short she must be to fit on his lap seems a little weird.

LadyMuskie
06-19-2014, 10:06 PM
It seems the streets in Clifton are opening up and trying to swallow the area to save the rest of us from its horribleness!

Kahns Krazy
06-20-2014, 07:10 AM
The idea of how short she must be to fit on his lap seems a little weird.

They were about the same size, which I think only added to the weirdness. I tried to get a picture but was at the wrong angle.

Kahns Krazy
11-04-2014, 04:16 PM
As the season gets ready to kick off, it seems like a fun time to bring this back to the top.

What are some of the ways you hate Mick Cronin?

BBC 08
11-04-2014, 04:55 PM
Not really a hating Cronin anecdote but it's funny involves Xavier, UC, and Memphis, and I don't know where else to put it so I'm putting it here.

So my sister is interviewing for a job at the University of Memphis Friday and when asking what she should do to prepare for the interview the lady told her, "We are more of a UC school than Xavier school so you should be fine." Found it funny that even those at Memphis know Xavier is better than UC.

MADXSTER
11-04-2014, 04:55 PM
I sometimes can see Mick Cronin's face in my crap before I flush. TMI ?

BandAid
11-05-2014, 07:12 AM
I sometimes can see Mick Cronin's face in my crap before I flush. TMI ?

Pretty sure that increases the chances of him being an underpants gnome. Step 3: Profit!

ammtd34
11-14-2014, 07:23 AM
"I feel like my daughter when she lost her favorite blanket in an airport when she was four. I lost my blankies. SK, Titus and Justin are all gone."

Kahns Krazy
12-16-2014, 01:25 PM
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/university-of-cincinnati/2014/12/13/cincinnati-bearcats-basketball/19638341/


"That's why we played a dangerous team like Stony Brook," said UC coach Mick Cronin.

Man. I assume the committee just put them in the tournament based on this alone.

Ba hahahahahahhahah bawwwww ahahhhahahahhahaa.

Xtemporaneous
12-16-2014, 04:00 PM
Wow... There is no way that UC is beating X this year. I have a friend who is in player development and he said that Octavius Ellis called him asking to work some offense, that they're not getting it during practice at UC.

And obviously when you have Seth tweeting about the UC v. Nebraska game and using it as punishment for his kids... Who wants to see just defense?

Mick is searching for something to grasp on to so his season will look legitimate. They aren't used to scheduling tough teams. I effing love it. That program is a joke. Mick has one more year (maybe two) before he's shown the door unless something drastic changes.

Kahns Krazy
12-17-2014, 09:18 AM
I still don't understand the Stony Brook comment.

I heard in the live chat that Mick has a certain fondness for goats.

Patrick Bateman
12-31-2014, 12:12 PM
I still don't understand the Stony Brook comment.

I heard in the live chat that Mick has a certain fondness for goats.

Stony Brook beat an undefeated #13 Washington at Washington.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400593234

Kahns Krazy
01-02-2015, 09:03 AM
Stony Brook beat an undefeated #13 Washington at Washington.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400593234

So Mick Cronin's comment was based on his knowledge that Stoney Brook was going to have their biggest win in school history, and only their second ever win over a power conference team, not only after he scheduled them, but after he played them?

With that kind of power, Mick is in the wrong line of business.

Stoney Brook is a 6-6 team. That's real power scheduling there Mick.

coasterville95
01-02-2015, 11:05 AM
So the sympathy period of being nice to Mick through his health issues is over?

Kahns Krazy
01-02-2015, 12:16 PM
I do not wish any misfortune for Mick Cronin as a person. From accounts I have heard, he is a decent person and a good father. I hope he fully recovers from his aneurism and lives a nice long life for himself and his family.

Mick Cronin as a basketball coach continues to be fair game for me, and I will certainly fire back at a troll that shows up after a fluke by Stoney Brook. (Where was our friend Master Bateman when Stoney Brook dropped 4 straight?)

Patrick Bateman
01-05-2015, 02:53 PM
I do not wish any misfortune for Mick Cronin as a person. From accounts I have heard, he is a decent person and a good father. I hope he fully recovers from his aneurism and lives a nice long life for himself and his family.

Mick Cronin as a basketball coach continues to be fair game for me, and I will certainly fire back at a troll that shows up after a fluke by Stoney Brook. (Where was our friend Master Bateman when Stoney Brook dropped 4 straight?)



3 of the 4 losses were on the road. As you know, playing on the road is not easy.

Kahns Krazy
01-08-2015, 12:53 PM
I watched UC play Saturday. I actually hate them less when Mick isn't on the floor. I hope he comes back next year so I can resume hating him and them with a passion. Get better little buddy!

waggy
01-08-2015, 01:52 PM
Has the head stomper been deported yet?

LadyMuskie
02-16-2015, 08:45 PM
Less than 48 hours until tip off and uc still sucks!

Masterofreality
02-16-2015, 09:10 PM
Less than 48 hours until tip off and uc still sucks!

Yes.....yes they do.

The hatred will NEVER diminish for that pack of Cretins in Clifton.

LadyMuskie
02-16-2015, 09:16 PM
Yes.....yes they do.

The hatred will NEVER diminish for that pack of Cretins in Clifton.

Nice alliteration! I love it. Plus, alliteration is way too big of a word for uc grads to ever understand.

Masterofreality
02-17-2015, 07:13 AM
Nice alliteration! I love it. Plus, alliteration is way too big of a word for uc grads to ever understand.

Thank you. It was not accidental.

Milhouse
02-17-2015, 10:54 AM
They lost to TULANE at home. In Conference.

No they should definitely be in the Big 12.

X-band '01
02-17-2015, 05:48 PM
East Carolina was far more offensive. They're Fordham on steroids.

LadyMuskie
02-17-2015, 10:41 PM
Poor, defenseless Mick is still scared to come back to Cintas because the students threw magic, disappearing blue paint on him and our players hurled nasty, scary words at the little snowflakes on the uc bench. The only defense they had was to physically assault people and try to stomp on the heads of those big bad meanies.

Lamont Sanford
02-18-2015, 11:08 AM
FYI...just heard that the YTG is joining Bill Cunningham on 700 WLW at 2:06pm today to talk the Shootout. I can already hear the whining about those mean, terrible XU fans who called him names a couple years ago at the Cintas Center. Assclown.

paulxu
02-18-2015, 12:14 PM
He's just setting the table.
Postgame, after the bearkitties blow it...he'll come on and say "if I'd been on the floor, we'd have won easily."

Lamont Sanford
02-18-2015, 01:04 PM
The legend Andy Mac will join Willie on 700WLW at 2:30pm to re-butt Cronin's whining.

Masterofreality
03-20-2015, 09:35 AM
Anybody else see that "Look at Me" Tweet that the Jaundiced Leprechaun put out yesterday?
Uh, YTG. You had as much to do with sideline coaching yesterday as I did watching on TV. I don't need to see your yellow teeth in a picture. Get better so CMack can school you're midget ass at Cintas next year.

@CoachCroninUC: That's my main man !!!!!!***BEARCATS BASKETBALL.***thank you to all of our fans.
1677

waggy
03-20-2015, 09:56 AM
He's secretly praying Larry doesn't beat UK.

LadyMuskie
03-20-2015, 11:38 AM
That's an unfortunate picture for so many reasons.

Masterofreality
03-31-2015, 11:59 AM
He's fully back, so escalate the hate!

Juice
07-01-2015, 10:31 AM
Time to ramp up the hate

Jeff Borzello ‏@jeffborzello 1m1 minute ago
What a 24-hour stretch for Cincinnati:
-- Big man Nysier Brooks yesterday
-- NC State transfer Kyle Washington
-- Top-100 Jarron Cumberland

Evan Daniels ‏@EvanDaniels 2m2 minutes agoCalifornia, USA
It's been a good day for Cincinnati. Picked up Kyle Washington on transfer & now Jarron Cumberland has announced his pledge. Top 100 scorer.

GoMuskies
07-01-2015, 10:34 AM
Good for their cute little program.

BMoreX
07-01-2015, 10:37 AM
They're killing it right now

Milhouse
07-01-2015, 11:20 AM
That is a really good get for UC.

D-West & PO-Z
07-01-2015, 11:38 AM
Time to ramp up the hate

Jeff Borzello ‏@jeffborzello 1m1 minute ago
What a 24-hour stretch for Cincinnati:
-- Big man Nysier Brooks yesterday
-- NC State transfer Kyle Washington
-- Top-100 Jarron Cumberland

Evan Daniels ‏@EvanDaniels 2m2 minutes agoCalifornia, USA
It's been a good day for Cincinnati. Picked up Kyle Washington on transfer & now Jarron Cumberland has announced his pledge. Top 100 scorer.

Which one of those guys visited XU? McAllister had a guy on yesterday talking about the recruit who committed saying the guy visited one other local school, McAllister then said XU, and that as soon as he left that other school's campus he committed to UC.

GoMuskies
07-01-2015, 12:32 PM
Cumberland held a Xavier offer. Not sure if he visited.

throwbackmuskie
07-01-2015, 12:48 PM
I think Brooks visited. Feel bad for Cumberland. Kid can score, but uc doesn't like to score.

Nigel Tufnel
07-01-2015, 03:40 PM
Very good gets for UC. Jarron was offered and visited X, but it is my understanding that X had stopped recruiting him because his size/game/position just didn't fit with what Mack was wanting in 2016.

XUFan09
07-01-2015, 03:48 PM
Very good gets for UC. Jarron was offered and visited X, but it is my understanding that X had stopped recruiting him because his size/game/position just didn't fit with what Mack was wanting in 2016.
That is correct with Cumberland. I really like his game, and Xavier had been recruiting him on and off for a long time, but he's just in the wrong class. And though he's a really good scorer, he's just not quite the program changer that you go after no matter what needs you have. That's what distinguishes him from a guy like Markelle Fultz, who fills no pressing need but the staff is still recruiting him hard. The staff still kept in touch with Cumberland this year, because you never know for sure what might happen with your roster, but he wasn't a priority target by any means.

Kyle Washington was a guy for whom Xavier was in the mix once he announced his transfer, but after a bit of time, it looked pretty clear that Xavier wouldn't get him. He was a strong Marquette lean for awhile there, but things changed recently.

casualfan
07-02-2015, 07:19 AM
Which one of those guys visited XU? McAllister had a guy on yesterday talking about the recruit who committed saying the guy visited one other local school, McAllister then said XU, and that as soon as he left that other school's campus he committed to UC.

According to this (http://www.cityofbasketballlove.com/news_article/show/530013?referrer_id=1566508) it was Brooks:

After visiting the University of Cincinnati over the weekend, Life Center (N.J.) forward Nysier Brooks and his AAU coach, James Johns, visited the campus of Xavier on Tuesday morning. But after leaving the campus of the other Cincinnati school, Brooks told his coach that he'd made up his mind: he wanted to go to Cinci and become a Bearcat.

So he dialed up head coach Mick Cronin and committed.

I know some have mentioned that we had cooled on Cumberland, but I'm betting if he called to commit Mack would have taken him. You typically don't turn away guys who can put the ball in the basket like that.

Milhouse
07-02-2015, 11:59 AM
According to this (http://www.cityofbasketballlove.com/news_article/show/530013?referrer_id=1566508) it was Brooks:

After visiting the University of Cincinnati over the weekend, Life Center (N.J.) forward Nysier Brooks and his AAU coach, James Johns, visited the campus of Xavier on Tuesday morning. But after leaving the campus of the other Cincinnati school, Brooks told his coach that he'd made up his mind: he wanted to go to Cinci and become a Bearcat.

So he dialed up head coach Mick Cronin and committed.

I know some have mentioned that we had cooled on Cumberland, but I'm betting if he called to commit Mack would have taken him. You typically don't turn away guys who can put the ball in the basket like that.

While that may be the case Mack hasn't been on him a ton recently. Typically you don't get many kids calling to commit if they're not being warmed up/have the staff on them a lot.

While brooks did commit to UC after his X visit I would have been absolutely SHOCKED if they would've even taken a commitment from him after getting Jones a few days earlier and Rashid Gaston last week. We don't need any more big men. Need to focus on a PG at this point.

XUFan09
07-02-2015, 12:47 PM
While that may be the case Mack hasn't been on him a ton recently. Typically you don't get many kids calling to commit if they're not being warmed up/have the staff on them a lot.

While brooks did commit to UC after his X visit I would have been absolutely SHOCKED if they would've even taken a commitment from him after getting Jones a few days earlier and Rashid Gaston last week. We don't need any more big men. Need to focus on a PG at this point.
Well, we could actually use another big man, but 1) it doesn't necessarily have to be a guy coming out of high school and 2) I don't know Brooks enough to even know if he's the type of big the staff wants now. They want a skilled big to complement Jones. Is Brooks that type or is he more the athletic and/or bruising type?

By the way, the fact that I didn't really even know about Brooks to me says a lot about how heavily Xavier was recruiting him. I can think of a list of five bigs off the top of my head who were definitely higher priority. And yes, like Milhouse said, the staff would have likely taken a Cumberland commitment, but when a staff isn't putting the press on a kid, the kid almost never commits there.

I'm willing to acknowledge when a rival beat us in a recruiting battle. For example, Joey Brunk was THE priority center for the staff, but Xavier lost out to Butler and it stings. UC and Xavier just weren't really going head-to-head on Cumberland and they definitely weren't going head-to-head on Brooks.

Milhouse
07-02-2015, 12:58 PM
Well, we could actually use another big man, but 1) it doesn't necessarily have to be a guy coming out of high school and 2) I don't know Brooks enough to even know if he's the type of big the staff wants now. They want a skilled big to complement Jones. Is Brooks that type or is he more the athletic and/or bruising type?

He's your prototypical cronin big man ala Justin Jackson/Gates. He won't stretch the floor by any means. That's what the staff is looking for after pulling in Jones and not landing Brunk.

XUFan09
07-02-2015, 01:04 PM
He's your prototypical cronin big man ala Justin Jackson/Gates. He won't stretch the floor by any means. That's what the staff is looking for after pulling in Jones and not landing Brunk.
Yeah, then not something the staff is interested in after landing Jones. They might not even take a second high school big in that class; they're definitely not taking a second high school big who isn't at least one of shooter/ballhandler/playmaker.

casualfan
07-03-2015, 04:26 AM
Yeah, then not something the staff is interested in after landing Jones. They might not even take a second high school big in that class; they're definitely not taking a second high school big who isn't at least one of shooter/ballhandler/playmaker.

Maybe I'm missing something, but if the staff isn't planning to take another big why did they spend time on a visit w a kid who had made it clear he'd be committing before the July period?

It makes sense to keep some guys on the back burner in case something changes but this guy was telling people he was ready to wrap it up when we brought him in.

XUFan09
07-03-2015, 07:05 AM
Maybe I'm missing something, but if the staff isn't planning to take another big why did they spend time on a visit w a kid who had made it clear he'd be committing before the July period?

It makes sense to keep some guys on the back burner in case something changes but this guy was telling people he was ready to wrap it up when we brought him in.

Because he was already in town just a few miles away, so he called Xavier and asked if he could stop by (Luke Murray recruit from when he was at URI). The coaching staff said sure, because there's not really a reason to say no to that.

Edit: If you do say no when one of your assistants had been recruiting him, you just come off as a jerk (Really, you are a jerk). It's bad practice, and that's not even considering that sometimes these kids transfer, a practical reason to always maintain good relationships with any recruits.

GoMuskies
07-03-2015, 07:26 AM
You people realize that you've hijacked a perfectly good thread about our collective hatred of UC in the House of Smack, right? Now say something awful about the gnome or find a more appropriate thread!

OTRMUSKIE
07-04-2015, 04:43 PM
Yello tooth gnome is a cancer to society

Masterofreality
07-06-2015, 06:28 PM
Remember that "can't miss 4 star recruit" big man Jermaine Lawrence that the jaundiced leprechaun recruited that was a game changer?

Nah, I can't either.

Cheesehead
07-08-2015, 11:46 AM
YTG has been cleared health-wise w/ no restrictions. Feel free to rip him a new one now that we know he won't be dying soon.

RealDeal
07-08-2015, 05:19 PM
YTG has been cleared health-wise w/ no restrictions. Feel free to rip him a new one now that we know he won't be dying soon.

His doctor declared him "Fully fit to resume being a complete asshole with no abnormal risk."

I thought that was a strange way to put it. But I'm not a doctor so what do I know.

Kahns Krazy
07-14-2015, 09:21 AM
I will resume fully hating him when he resumes his normal antics of tearing down his own players, other teams in the city, other conferences, referees, in short (ha!), everyone but himself.

Juice
07-17-2015, 01:26 PM
It looks like Art Long is still a productive member of society
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/university-of-cincinnati/ucathleticsblog/2015/07/17/former-uc-hoops-player-convicted-drug-gun-charges/30293013/

Juice
08-11-2015, 09:56 PM
This is a pretty funny story about Calipari putting another coach in his place. The commenters all seem to think this story is about Mick, and until it's confirmed otherwise I'm going to believe that it is Mick.

http://kentuckysportsradio.com/main/gary-parrish-just-told-the-most-john-calipari-story-ever/

Cheesehead
08-12-2015, 12:18 PM
This is a pretty funny story about Calipari putting another coach in his place. The commenters all seem to think this story is about Mick, and until it's confirmed otherwise I'm going to believe that it is Mick.

http://kentuckysportsradio.com/main/gary-parrish-just-told-the-most-john-calipari-story-ever/

In looking at the comments, several posters are saying the same thing. Interesting. Cal is a POS though.

Juice
08-12-2015, 02:58 PM
In looking at the comments, several posters are saying the same thing. Interesting. Cal is a POS though.

http://www.aseaofblue.com/2015/8/12/9135031/wildcat-quickies-calipari-is-king-deal-with-it-edition

Cheesehead
08-13-2015, 11:52 AM
Mick looks like Weasel and apparently he acts like a Weasel too.

Milhouse
10-26-2015, 09:38 AM
https://twitter.com/CoachCroninUC/status/658460260374589440

Mick whining about OSU/X stuff being sold on on campus store.

blobfan
10-26-2015, 11:27 AM
https://twitter.com/CoachCroninUC/status/658460260374589440

Mick whining about OSU/X stuff being sold on on campus store.

Actually it looks like he's complaining about OFF campus stores. If Lil Mick wants to own all of Clifton he's got to get he boys to a MUCH higher level.

Xtemporaneous
10-26-2015, 03:12 PM
Haha looks like the stores are owned by Xavier alumni. That's right UC kids. Get used to buying from and calling Xavier alumni BOSS.

Kahns Krazy
10-27-2015, 12:07 PM
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/cinn/blog/Mick.jpg

outsideobserver11
10-27-2015, 01:48 PM
Why is he rolling with the pocket square on the sideline?

Cheesehead
11-09-2015, 11:43 AM
It's November 9, 2015 and UC still sucks!

Lamont Sanford
11-10-2015, 01:03 PM
Actually it looks like he's complaining about OFF campus stores. If Lil Mick wants to own all of Clifton he's got to get he boys to a MUCH higher level.

What a total fucking assclown.

Kahns Krazy
12-02-2015, 08:46 PM
Mick Cronin picked up a ridiculous T tonight arguing a foul at the other end of the court that he couldn't possibly have seen. At the time, UC was up 7. They lost by 2 after Butler made both free throws and went on a 7-0 run fueled by Mick's stupid tech.

At half, Mick insulted the shit out of his team.

What a douche.

MuskieXU
12-02-2015, 09:23 PM
Every now and then I cant help but go check out the UC forums after they lose a game. A couple things made me laugh.

First, there were a good amount of fans blaming the refs for a loss. Not too surprising. What was funny though is these fans were saying Butler got the benefit of the doubt because they had more white players. Legitimately complaining about how since UC is a predominately black team they never get calls, and teams like Butler/Xavier/Duke who have more white players always get calls.

The other comment was this. "I do not believe for one minute that the Victory Parkway U fan base has learned how to behave. I will be shocked if there are no incidents. If things get out of hand that we cancel the game forever or it never goes back to campus sites. X Fans can't handle themselves like adults." Am I crazy or was UC throwing things at Butler and on the court throughout the game tonight? Too blinded to see how hypocritical this is. Hilarious.

Xpectations
12-03-2015, 09:35 AM
Every now and then I cant help but go check out the UC forums after they lose a game. A couple things made me laugh.

First, there were a good amount of fans blaming the refs for a loss. Not too surprising. What was funny though is these fans were saying Butler got the benefit of the doubt because they had more white players. Legitimately complaining about how since UC is a predominately black team they never get calls, and teams like Butler/Xavier/Duke who have more white players always get calls.

The other comment was this. "I do not believe for one minute that the Victory Parkway U fan base has learned how to behave. I will be shocked if there are no incidents. If things get out of hand that we cancel the game forever or it never goes back to campus sites. X Fans can't handle themselves like adults." Am I crazy or was UC throwing things at Butler and on the court throughout the game tonight? Too blinded to see how hypocritical this is. Hilarious.

A few comments:

They lost due to racism? Seriously? And, sure, XU typically loads the floor with white guys. I guess any narrative works when you're pissed.
I saw people bitching about the non-travel call at the end. I stopped in frame-by-frame watching the ESPN highlight. His first legal step after picking up his dribble is a left foot between the top two hash marks on the left side of the lane. His second and last step was the right foot that he jumps from to shoot the layup. No travel. Watch it again, folks. It looks awkward because he's forced to jump off the wrong foot . But it ain't a travel.
Complaining about racist refs and traveling calls. That's so AAC.

paulxu
12-03-2015, 12:06 PM
If things get out of hand that we cancel the game forever or it never goes back to campus sites.

Overlooking the fact that the sentence makes about as much grammatical sense as a chicken with lips, this sounds a whole lot like a fan who is preparing for a major beat-down ("things get out of hand"), and wants to mail in his excuses early.

redhawkmuskie
12-03-2015, 12:21 PM
UC fans really are an anomaly, bringing race into this now? I'm unsure what the all-time low is for UC and their fan base but I feel as though this may be up there. All you can do is shake your head and laugh. I really wonder what will happen when they lose the next three shootouts. At the very least, they are a great example of how not to conduct oneself.

THRILLHOUSE
12-03-2015, 12:42 PM
I saw people bitching about the non-travel call at the end. I stopped in frame-by-frame watching the ESPN highlight. His first legal step after picking up his dribble is a left foot between the top two hash marks on the left side of the lane. His second and last step was the right foot that he jumps from to shoot the layup. No travel. Watch it again, folks. It looks awkward because he's forced to jump off the wrong foot . But it ain't a travel.




Yeah watching live I thought he might of traveled, but after they showed the replay I had the same conclusion you have.

LadyMuskie
12-03-2015, 12:45 PM
UC has one of the smallest minority enrollments for a state school considering the neighborhoods which surround it. And yet, the refs are the ones who are racist? A bunch of geniuses make up the UC fan base.

Xpectations
12-03-2015, 01:34 PM
Yeah watching live I thought he might of traveled, but after they showed the replay I had the same conclusion you have.

I thought so as well.

Also, after rereading my description, I realized I could have been clearer.

The pivot foot in this case was Jones' left foot that landed between the hash marks just below the foul line. That is when he officially "catches the ball" as defined in the rules. The pivot foot can only be his left foot because his right foot is still in the air during the catch.

He's then allowed one step with his non-pivot foot from there, which was when his right foot lands near the basket. He's allowed to lift his pivot foot--which he did as he jumped from his right foot--provided that he released the ball prior to returning to the floor, which he also clearly did.

He definitely covered a lot of ground during that sequence. And it definitely looked awkward because he jumped off his opposite foot.

redhawkmuskie
12-03-2015, 03:11 PM
I jumped onto their board to see what sort of turmoil their fan base is in. Without repeating what you mentioned, the thing that caught my attention was their attitude toward one another. Man, they really go at each other's throats! I'm shocked at how in depth and personal their attacks are toward their own kind. We go at Mack once in awhile (or constantly) after losses but at least it typically is civil if not childish.

Milhouse
12-04-2015, 08:14 AM
UC has one of the smallest minority enrollments for a state school considering the neighborhoods which surround it. And yet, the refs are the ones who are racist? A bunch of geniuses make up the UC fan base.

Absolutely no doubt the same ones citing racism are the ones complaining about the Irate 8.

But hey if they think it hurts their sports team winning its an injustice!!!!!!

Cheesehead
12-04-2015, 11:37 AM
Saw the replay several times and agree that while it was awkward as hell, did not think Jones traveled. If you have seen this kid play, he uses weird steps and moves because he's undersized and tries to use his body to shield ball from defender so he doesn't get stuffed. He also creates space by causing contact and drivng into the defender.

Lamont Sanford
12-09-2015, 07:46 AM
Mick's two least favorite words....Curtis Bostic.

MuskieXU
12-09-2015, 09:30 AM
Rewatched the Mick post brawl press conference today. Made me remember how much I really hate him. He essentially blames the entire brawl on us for talking trash during the game. He then goes on and on about how these kids are in college to get an education, when UC has had a horrible record of educating their basketball players. I'm sure Mick recruited Lance Stephenson because he was such an academic.

Milhouse
12-09-2015, 10:49 AM
Rewatched the Mick post brawl press conference today. Made me remember how much I really hate him. He essentially blames the entire brawl on us for talking trash during the game. He then goes on and on about how these kids are in college to get an education, when UC has had a horrible record of educating their basketball players. I'm sure Mick recruited Lance Stephenson because he was such an academic.

He also had a great one in '13 after we smacked them "We showed up to a street fight wearing pink uniforms"

Lamont Sanford
12-10-2015, 11:32 AM
The good old days...
http://s24.postimg.org/kz7yk1wr5/Cronin_Plus_Ex.jpg

X-band '01
12-10-2015, 12:07 PM
Does anyone still have the picture of an angry Bob Huggins in a Hawaiian shirt? I think Mick Cronin had the same shirt and his smug look, but I can't track it down.

Masterofreality
12-13-2015, 07:42 AM
"We're not concerned with Xavier," Cronin said......

Famous last words.

redhawkmuskie
12-13-2015, 11:41 AM
"We're not concerned with Xavier," Cronin said......

Famous last words.

Did you check out his postgame conference? He walks in, spells his players mid-interview and goes on saying how they won't talk about Xavier because "We're Cincinnati, not Xavier." Simply put, the guy is a effin douche!

Bearcat_Bounce
12-13-2015, 03:41 PM
Did you check out his postgame conference? He walks in, spells his players mid-interview and goes on saying how they won't talk about Xavier because "We're Cincinnati, not Xavier." Simply put, the guy is a effin douche!

Mick, at times, is really unlikeable. It's like he knows he can't beat Xavier so he's get defensive whenever the game is mentioned. Miss Huggins on days like today.

Cheesehead
12-13-2015, 08:16 PM
Did you check out his postgame conference? He walks in, spells his players mid-interview and goes on saying how they won't talk about Xavier because "We're Cincinnati, not Xavier." Simply put, the guy is a effin douche!

Saw that as well. Really came across as some sour grapes but he also praised X's team, it's program, and its facilities. He said something like this not Xavier from 1994 when they were playing in the MCC.

Mick acts like the game does not matter to him but we all know that is just not the case.

Kahns Krazy
12-21-2015, 06:42 AM
Did you check out his postgame conference? He walks in, spells his players mid-interview and goes on saying how they won't talk about Xavier because "We're Cincinnati, not Xavier." Simply put, the guy is a effin douche!

Meanwhile, after the next game, Mick brings up the Xavier game no less than ten times. I thought they were Cincinnati, not Xavier.

http://www.gobearcats.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/121515aaf.html

Douche!

Masterofreality
12-21-2015, 09:11 AM
Meanwhile, after the next game, Mick brings up the Xavier game no less than ten times. I thought they were Cincinnati, not Xavier.

http://www.gobearcats.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/121515aaf.html

Douche!

YTG quote after the Shootout: "We're not concerned with Xavier".

Uh, Ok.

blobfan
12-21-2015, 09:38 AM
I didn't read past the first quote but this made me chuckle:
"I’m trying to get some guys to get nationally recognized and try to get some people to respect them as players. The way to do that, they have to play well all the time and play up to your potential all the time.”

So he's trying to get his players to play well not to win but for recognition? If your players win, doesn't recognition follow?

Masterofreality
12-21-2015, 05:53 PM
It's 6:53 pm on December 21....and Mick Cronin still sucks!!!!!

Cheesehead
12-21-2015, 11:30 PM
And Mick said that VCU would be competing for an A-10 title this season. I wonder if he knew VCU was only one game over .500 when they played? Of course, this now means UC would win the A-10!

Masterofreality
12-23-2015, 07:29 PM
SucKS inducted Danny Fortson into their Athletic HOF last night.

You know, the same Danny Fortson who was arrested in the same incident where Art Long punched a Police Horse 4 times. Fortson was arrested for disorderly conduct while intoxicated. He also yelled obscenities at bystanders.

Nothing like honoring your best, most emulate-able representatives.

Straightshooter
12-24-2015, 12:14 PM
The great thing about Cronin is that he is UC's coach. X should have the upper hand against UC while he is around. Not many Huggin's fans around, but that cat could coach.

Kahns Krazy
01-07-2016, 10:08 PM
Epic meltdown for Mick's crew tonight. Up 7 with the ball under 4 minutes to go against an SMU team playing with 6 scholarship players. Mick's post game interviews are becoming classic. Such a dickhead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIO1R1qx4iI&feature=youtu.be

"I don't think about the big picture"

Huh?

http://www.xavierhoops.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1895&d=1452226070

D-West & PO-Z
01-07-2016, 10:51 PM
Epic meltdown for Mick's crew tonight. Up 7 with the ball under 4 minutes to go against an SMU team playing with 6 scholarship players. Mick's post game interviews are becoming classic. Such a dickhead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIO1R1qx4iI&feature=youtu.be

"I don't think about the big picture"

Huh?

http://www.xavierhoops.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1895&d=1452226070

What a douche. Thanks for posting. And how the hell does he know that stat about being 65-1 with the lead in the last 2mins at one point in his career? Think thats BS?

maketewahXalum
01-07-2016, 11:56 PM
HAHA - wow. Can you imagine how badly this board would explode if Chris Mack conducted this type of interview? If Mack did an interview like that, my respect level for him would drop a level or two. I think that type of behavior in an interview is very unprofessional.

"I don't think about the big picture. That's for you guys. That's the biggest mistake that any coach can make, at any level, in any sport."

Really? I highly disagree with that above statement, and I think 99.99% of all professional coaches, in any sport, would also disagree. What an embarrassment that guy is. Aside from that absurdly idiotic statement, Mick's demeanor is just truly pathetic. Maybe he is completely different away from the camera, and away from discussing UC/basketball in general; but I can't imagine he has a lot of friends. He comes off as an extremely depressed, unhappy loser that is unenjoyable to be around. That guy needs to see a therapist or something.

Kahns Krazy
01-08-2016, 05:10 AM
What a douche. Thanks for posting. And how the hell does he know that stat about being 65-1 with the lead in the last 2mins at one point in his career? Think thats BS?

Did you notice that we he talks about winning, he says "I" but when someone does something wrong or loses, it's never "I".

94GRAD
01-08-2016, 07:06 AM
Started watching the game with 3 mins to go and uc up 5, turned to my friend and said this is where they dont score a bucket and only make 1 free throw the rest of the way. Was WAY off, they hit 2 free throws!

Milhouse
01-08-2016, 07:22 AM
Cronin just isnt the same coach after last year. Probably good for his health, but I just don't think he gets that same motivation out of them anymore.

How do you return your starting 5 and regress?

paulxu
01-08-2016, 08:18 AM
What a douche. Thanks for posting. And how the hell does he know that stat about being 65-1 with the lead in the last 2mins at one point in his career? Think thats BS?

I don't know, but he had the lead with 13 seconds to go last year against X.

D-West & PO-Z
01-08-2016, 08:54 AM
Did you notice that we he talks about winning, he says "I" but when someone does something wrong or loses, it's never "I".

Great observation. Classic Mick.

paulxu
01-08-2016, 09:06 AM
Mick...putting the "I" back in team.

Cheesehead
01-08-2016, 09:12 AM
wow, what a doucehbag.

Masterofreality
01-08-2016, 12:45 PM
Not really defending, but when he says "not about the big picture" I think he's probably referring to the whole season at a time. Most coaches, C Mack included, talk about "4 minute wars,Game to Game" that kind of stuff. It's part of the "process" as Nick Saban has detailed.

That being said, the Jaundiced Leprechaun continues down the douche road. He can't stop throwing his players under the next bus that comes along and never, ever takes any responsibility. What an attitude.

LadyMuskie
01-08-2016, 01:11 PM
Not really defending, but

What have you done with the real MOR, Imposter?

Masterofreality
01-08-2016, 06:05 PM
What have you done with the real MOR, Imposter?

I repeat: "That being said, the Jaundiced Leprechaun continues down the douche road. He can't stop throwing his players under the next bus that comes along and never, ever takes any responsibility. What an attitude.

One rose in an entire planet of thorns.

By the way, it's 7:07 on January 7, 2016, and the school in Clifton still SucKS.

Kahns Krazy
01-09-2016, 08:33 AM
What a douche. Thanks for posting. And how the hell does he know that stat about being 65-1 with the lead in the last 2mins at one point in his career? Think thats BS?
The more I think about that, it's next to impossible.

Masterofreality
01-11-2016, 08:44 AM
YTG's latest incredible quote after the South Florida game- the same South Florida that is on the bottom of the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC and 234 in RPI.

"“To win a game on the road and shoot 31 percent is something I’m extremely proud of. It’s everything that I stand for.”"

Yep. He should be proud. 31% is better than their usual.

paulxu
01-11-2016, 11:28 AM
If you read that quote in isolation, it sounds like a player would have said it.

Mick, once again putting the "I" in team.

Kahns Krazy
01-11-2016, 11:30 AM
Ha. Missed that one. Didn't watch anything much yesterday.

Masterofreality
01-12-2016, 06:57 AM
Ha. Missed that one. Didn't watch anything much yesterday.

That latest quote is one of the most ridiculous statements ever made by a Coach. I think even the Borecats' beat writer can't believe what comes out of his mouth. Contrast that with CMack's disgust at how Xavier played at St. John's. There was nothing he was proud of in that game- other than Myles Davis and Trevon. No wonder SucKS can't hardly ever get 10,000 in the building. They're stuck with that bald elf though because they can't afford to pay him off to leave-not when they still have to raise another $50 or so million to redo their barn.

Gotta admit, that he's great comedy, though.

Masterofreality
01-14-2016, 10:24 AM
The Jaundiced Leprechaun did not attend the post Houston game press conference last night due to "family obligations". Hmmm. Seems like CMack is a much better family man, but never misses a presser. Maybe Mick's been advised to stop making ridiculous quotes, so he's just booking.

BTW. 9,342 at the Shoe last night vs 10,400 at Cintas the night before. Who rules the (513)?

Kahns Krazy
01-14-2016, 04:04 PM
The only thing I will not poke at is Mick as a father. I have heard from enough places that he is a good dad. His kid is already in an awkward enough situation, if Mick skips a presser for family reasons, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Still a douchebag as a coach.

Masterofreality
01-14-2016, 04:47 PM
The only thing I will not poke at is Mick as a father. I have heard from enough places that he is a good dad. His kid is already in an awkward enough situation, if Mick skips a presser for family reasons, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Still a douchebag as a coach.

Ok, Kahns. if it's a true reason. I'll give him that.

Cheesehead
01-14-2016, 11:02 PM
The Jaundiced Leprechaun did not attend the post Houston game press conference last night due to "family obligations". Hmmm. Seems like CMack is a much better family man, but never misses a presser. Maybe Mick's been advised to stop making ridiculous quotes, so he's just booking.

BTW. 9,342 at the Shoe last night vs 10,400 at Cintas the night before. Who rules the (513)?
That's actually a good crowd for them!

blobfan
01-15-2016, 01:04 PM
The only thing I will not poke at is Mick as a father. I have heard from enough places that he is a good dad. His kid is already in an awkward enough situation, if Mick skips a presser for family reasons, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Still a douchebag as a coach.

It's also a lot easier to balance family commitments when you are in an intact marriage and your spouse gave up a career to tend to the family full time.

Masterofreality
01-16-2016, 04:32 PM
So, here's YTG's quote today:
“We played as hard as we could play today,” Cronin said. “Guys are giving everything they’ve got. That’s all you can ask as a coach. You’ve just got to clean up execution, put guys in situations to be more effective and get more points.”

Well, how long does it take for you as a coach to figure out how to "put guys in situations to be more effective"? 100 practices? 1000 practices? 20 games? 25,000 games?

*Deep Questions*

Edit Post: One more quote from The Jaundiced Leprechaun after the game. This from the post game video at the Enquirer web site:

"You, know, I want our kids focused on how we are playing, not focus on results." That is just brilliant!!

The NCAA Selection Committee and all the rating services and National Polls shall now not focus on results anymore...just how teams play. Wins and losses can't be the be-all and end-all, Right Mick? I'm sure your contract just calls for "Ensure you are on top of how your players are playing...won/loss records are irrelevant to your $2.2 million salary. SucKS has to be overjoyed to know that for the last 5 years of your contract, winning games doesn't matter.

PARTICIPATION TROPHIES FOR EVERYONE AT THE POSTSEASON PICNIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kahns Krazy
01-17-2016, 04:33 PM
I was kind of let down by Mick's postgame. He's usually good for some better soundbites than that after totally blowing a game. He did have one section where he was bitching about one non-call for a long time, but other than that, it was pretty standard coach speak.

He is one fugly dude. It is hard to look at him on those videos.

http://www.xavierhoops.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1913&d=1453069980

Bearcat_Bounce
01-18-2016, 01:47 PM
Starting to agree with the first part of this thread title.

MuskieXU
01-19-2016, 10:04 AM
The quote I did find funny was Cronin blaming bad officiating on the fact that they're "an outsider in their league." Interesting take considering the fouls were dead even at 17. Im sure thats the reason you lost and not going 1-18 from 3.

Masterofreality
02-07-2016, 08:05 AM
Cronin's latest dissertation after losing to that genius Josh Pastner and Memphis yesterday:


Cronin said the Bearcats in the first half were hanging their heads, jogging back downcourt and not matching up. Not to mention, missing several open lay-ups and mid-range jumpers.

“That just doesn’t happen at Cincinnati,” Cronin said. “We compete harder than that. We challenged them (at halftime). I don’t care what happens in the outcome, our program is built on effort and toughness. We came out and competed in the second half. We just couldn’t make an open shot.”

Uh, it's not what happens at "Cincinnati" Mick. It's what happens under your crappy coaching. Nice job trying to deflect the attention about what you haven't done on to some Place. Hey YTG, YOU set the culture and your "program", not the place...and YOU suck at it. This makes numerous times this year where your team came out "flat" in must win games- that you didn't win. Amazing and hilarious.

Masterofreality
02-19-2016, 10:39 AM
The Borecats SucK! Another lousy loss. YTG is garbage.

Lamont Sanford
02-19-2016, 10:58 AM
The Borecats SucK! Another lousy loss. YTG is garbage.

Caught the tailend of that barnburner last night. Tulsa and Frank Haith practically tried to give that game away, yet Mick's bunch of losers didn't want any part of it. Chalk up another L and possibly another nail in their NIT coffin.

I just laughed and laughed and laughed.

X-band '01
02-19-2016, 11:31 AM
Get the popcorn, because UC and Ohio State are on a collision course for the NIT.

MuskieXU
02-19-2016, 11:49 AM
Caught the tailend of that barnburner last night. Tulsa and Frank Haith practically tried to give that game away, yet Mick's bunch of losers didn't want any part of it. Chalk up another L and possibly another nail in their NIT coffin.

I just laughed and laughed and laughed.

My favorite new excuse is UC fans looking at Kenpom and noting how "unlucky" they are, when they have choked away 7 or 8 games this year.

Masterofreality
02-19-2016, 07:18 PM
All you have to do to see the difference is watch an XU game and see how the Muskies execute an offensive play out of a time out.
Then do the same to a SucKS game. Absolutely Day and Night.

muskienick
02-19-2016, 08:28 PM
All you have to do to see the difference is watch an XU game and see how the Muskies execute an offensive play out of a time out.
Then do the same to a SucKS game. Absolutely Day and Night.

You are so right, MOR! The Xavier coaching staff works miracles time after time during game breaks. If I were the opposing coaching staff, I would be embarrassed having to play against the guile of Chris, Travis, Mike, and Luke. If its not shooting an easy lay-up, dunk, or catch-and-shoot (a la JP on the toss-in from out of bounds), then its a well-orchestrated in-bounds pass followed by 3-4 additional passes to beat the defense for an open trey. And we have the perfect set of players to run the 1-3-1 half-court zone defense. There's JP or Ed at the point making life miserable for the point guard or winger with the ball, and four other guys playing outstanding prevent D (as far as dribble penetration or open treys are concerned).

What an asset Kaiser has become as a rebounder and defender, not to mention the fact that he's not afraid to score either when the opportunity is there. We lose very little, if anything when he gives JR, Trevon, or James a well-deserved rest.

Larry is gaining confidence before our very eyes. Once again, he's a guy that comes off the bench and plays tough D while limiting his mistakes on the other end of the floor.

I hope we can keep this tremendous coaching staff together. They seem to work extremely well together, each coach filling an important niche in the Muskie scheme of things.

UCGRAD4X
02-20-2016, 07:58 AM
I hope we can keep this tremendous coaching staff together. They seem to work extremely well together, each coach filling an important niche in the Muskie scheme of things.

This is always a good news/bad news thing.

We want out assistants to be so good/valuable that other programs want to hire them away, and we want them to aspire to greater things. It is that double-edged sword that great programs expect and accept.

We WANT to be that program.

(Oh, yeah - and UC is not)

Cheesehead
02-22-2016, 11:56 AM
UC finally pulled out a close one. Finally helping our SOS.

Masterofreality
03-03-2016, 03:09 PM
Here's hoping that Mickey and his Minions go down to a horriffic defeat in Hofheinz tonight. They are right on the edge at 51 RPI and behind all 5 applicable Big East teams.

It's 4:10pm, March 3, 2016...and they still SucK!

Masterofreality
03-04-2016, 04:47 AM
Here's hoping that Mickey and his Minions go down to a horriffic defeat in Hofheinz tonight. They are right on the edge at 51 RPI and behind all 5 applicable Big East teams.

It's 4:10pm, March 3, 2016...and they still SucK!

As it is written....so shall it be done.

Cheesehead
03-04-2016, 10:55 AM
As it is written....so shall it be done.

Well, UC was w/out 2 key players last night due to injury, Thomas & Cobb. Not trying to make excuses for them but I am sure that didn't help them. It won't get any easier w/ SMU coming to town on Sunday.

I heard radio commercial this morning on drive into work that they still have tickets left for Sunday's game. Meanwhile our last home game is SRO. Suck it Bearcats!

Masterofreality
03-04-2016, 09:19 PM
Well, UC was w/out 2 key players last night due to injury, Thomas & Cobb. Not trying to make excuses for them but I am sure that didn't help them. It won't get any easier w/ SMU coming to town on Sunday.

I heard radio commercial this morning on drive into work that they still have tickets left for Sunday's game. Meanwhile our last home game is SRO. Suck it Bearcats!

I know, and I mentioned that on the other "games of note" thread.

What that does however is make you realize how CMack has built the depth on this team. 11 guys, all who contribute.

Cheesehead
03-05-2016, 08:29 AM
I know, and I mentioned that on the other "games of note" thread.

What that does however is make you realize how CMack has built the depth on this team. 11 guys, all who contribute.

No argument from me, MOR. UC can keep YTG.

OTRMUSKIE
03-06-2016, 02:50 PM
YTG is at it again. Cronin on tournament resume: "We have the same record as Duke. How we could go 22-9 in this league and not get in? Mind boggling."

94GRAD
03-06-2016, 03:08 PM
Nails on a chalkboard!!!

http://www.fox19.com/clip/12265404/mick-cronin-makes-case-for-ucs-tourney-resume?clienttype=generic

OTRMUSKIE
03-06-2016, 03:38 PM
Cronin: "We shot 5 percent from three...and dominated a top 25 team. Credit to how hard the guys competed." #Bearcats

Masterofreality
03-06-2016, 04:54 PM
YTG is at it again. Cronin on tournament resume: "We have the same record as Duke. How we could go 22-9 in this league and not get in? Mind boggling."

Because you beat NOBODY other than flotsam and jetsam in your own garbage league. Mind boggling.

If they lose their "play-in" game with UCon on Friday, you can still kiss their asses goodbye.

Musketeer15
03-06-2016, 06:31 PM
Just to quote the video for those who didn't open it...

On needing to win one or two more games to get into the NCAA tournament:
“It’s up to the committee. I don’t know. I do know we have the same record as Duke and we play in a league with five teams that are tournament teams. Memphis is very good and Houston may go to the tournament. Houston might win the conference tournament the way they are playing right now. How we can be in a league with that many good teams, be 22-9 and not be in would be mind boggling to me. But, I am not on any committee. All I can do is worry about getting Shaq and all the other guys healthy and prepare to play next week. That’s really all I can tell you.

“When we have the same record as some teams that are supposedly locks, that’s comical to me. It’s comical. The committee says to go out and play all these teams and we went and played them all. I don’t care what the computers say. When we played Iowa State, they weren’t worn down and injured and tired. They were at full go. When we played Butler, that was a huge game for Butler, a chance for them to get a non-league win and they are a great team. They are battling injuries, but we got them at full strength. We went to VCU and won in a sellout. We played Xavier, who is a one or a two seed, depending on what they do in their conference tournament. You tell me. Some of those teams that don’t leave their state or their gym and don’t play anybody (in the nonconference portion of their schedule) and then they go into their conference and go 9-9 and their in and we’re not? That’s comical.

“I try to stay focused on what I can control. I tell the team they can’t leave the game up to the officials and you better not leave your tournament fate up to people you don’t know, either, because our league has a bad history. Temple should have been in last year and SMU the year before. That’s a major concern for our conference. Our league gets no respect. I told you guys at the beginning of the year that our league how good our league was going to be. It took Houston some time – they have six or seven transfers – and they good. Damian Dodson, one of the best players in the country. When I say that, the guy doesn’t make mistakes and shoots 50 percent and getting 14 rebounds per game at the two guard spot. Ronnie Johnson was Purdue’s leading scorer a few years ago, transferred, sat out and is playing now. It’s his fourth year and he doesn’t start for Houston. He was Purdue’s leading scorer two years ago.

“Our league doesn’t get talked about and we don’t get the respect because some people would have to actually watch more than the blue bloods play a game. That would take some effort on some people’s part. Hopefully, the committee does.

Snipe
03-06-2016, 06:50 PM
I root for them to make the Dance and even win some games. Give Mick a contract extension!

He is 3-7 against us and we own this town. As long a burn victim is coaching the Bearcats they will never contend against us. When UC fans start talking smack I just laugh at them and say that I hope Mick gets another contract extension. They really don't like him either.

OTRMUSKIE
03-06-2016, 11:55 PM
After reading that transcript I can't really argue with him I guess. But do they have any good wins? They seem to have lost all the games they needed to win to impress the committee. They did beat uconn and smu but who else? I think they need one more win to get in.

XUFan09
03-07-2016, 04:26 AM
After reading that transcript I can't really argue with him I guess. But do they have any good wins? They seem to have lost all the games they needed to win to impress the committee. They did beat uconn and smu but who else? I think they need one more win to get in.
They also beat VCU on the road. Their record against Kenpom Tier A opponents is 3-7, while their record against Tier B opponents is 3-1. Meanwhile, their Massey Composite ranking is #33. They sound like a lower-seeded at-large. A win against UConn in the conference tournament would probably solidify their status above the play-in games.

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Cheesehead
03-07-2016, 12:03 PM
What's comical is Mick is complaining about the lack of respect his league gets... You don't get the respect because your league sucks.

No way they get 5 teams in as he claims. Mick also said Memphis is a good team! They have 12 freaking losses!!!! I know he has to spin it but he is such a jackass.

MADXSTER
03-07-2016, 02:35 PM
I find it interesting that a former A10 team(Temple) won the AAC this year.

Kahns Krazy
03-07-2016, 10:41 PM
If he weren't such a douche in general, his campaigning would be really normal for a team on the bubble. I think the win over SMU probably did get them in. The "same record'" argument is just stupid. By that logic, Albany, Evansville and Grand Canyon should be in ahead of UC since they have better records.

X-band '01
03-07-2016, 10:45 PM
It's too bad we have to wait 2 more years for Grand Canyon, though. They would have been a team fully capable of winning the WAC Tournament if they were allowed to play.

DoubleD86
03-08-2016, 04:54 PM
If he weren't such a douche in general, his campaigning would be really normal for a team on the bubble. I think the win over SMU probably did get them in. The "same record'" argument is just stupid. By that logic, Albany, Evansville and Grand Canyon should be in ahead of UC since they have better records.

This is my thought too. His "campaigning" wouldn't be so bad if he didn't have the track record of terrible statements. And yes, the record argument is ridiculous.

That being said, I think UC has locked up a bid and doesn't need to sweat much. Obviously, beating UConn would be very beneficial, but even with a loss I think they are in.

Masterofreality
03-08-2016, 05:20 PM
This is my thought too. His "campaigning" wouldn't be so bad if he didn't have the track record of terrible statements. And yes, the record argument is ridiculous.

That being said, I think UC has locked up a bid and doesn't need to sweat much. Obviously, beating UConn would be very beneficial, but even with a loss I think they are in.

Dook has the 8 rated SOS. SucKS - 75. Yeah. The same.

XUFan09
03-08-2016, 06:00 PM
Dook has the 8 rated SOS. SucKS - 75. Yeah. The same.
Damn, their SOS is top 100. That's remarkable for UC!

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X-Men
03-08-2016, 09:48 PM
Damn, their SOS is top 100. That's remarkable for UC!

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Cronin's quote gives us insight into why they schedule Little Sisters of the Poor 12 times in the non-conference every year. That being said, they did have a much better non-conference schedule this year than what we are used to seeing. I'm sure it was inadvertent though and Cronin fought like hell to switch out Butler and Iowa State with Gateway and Cincinnati State.

Masterofreality
03-08-2016, 10:13 PM
Damn, their SOS is top 100. That's remarkable for UC!

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How they have a 37 RPI with this non-con schedule and results, I'll never know. (Opponent's RPI in parentheses)

11-13 Western Carolina (168.0) SC H 97-72 W 100% 0.0
11-15 Robert Morris (289.0) NEC H 106-44 W 100% 0.0
11-18 Bowling Green (207.0) MAC A 50-83 W 100% 0.0
11-22 Arkansas Pine Bluff (308.0) SWAC H 99-50 W 100% 0.0
11-24 Southeastern Louisiana (330.0) Slnd H 64-49 W 100% 0.0
11-27 Nebraska (173.0) B10 N 61-65 W 100% 0.0
11-28 George Washington (62.0) A10 N 56-61 W 100% 0.0
L. 12-2 Butler (44.0) BE H 76-78 L 0% 0.0
12-6 Morgan St. (331.0) MEAC H 87-66 W 100% 0.0
L. 12-12 Xavier (6.0) BE A 65-55 L 0% 0.0
12-15 Norfolk St. (219.0) MEAC H 75-59 W 100% 0.0
12-19 VCU (40.0) A10 A 63-69 W 100% 0.0
L. 12-22 Iowa St. (19.0)

dnnrobert
03-09-2016, 01:51 AM
At least according to ESPN's RPI rankings, Cincinnati has had a stronger non-conference schedule than Xavier 2 of the last 3 years. In the Big East days, UC's schedule was garbage, but they have picked it up in the AAC. Right now, my biggest complaint with Mick's scheduling is too many 300+ RPI drags. But the top half of the schedule has been very strong the last 3 years.

Masterofreality
03-09-2016, 03:51 AM
At least according to ESPN's RPI rankings, Cincinnati has had a stronger non-conference schedule than Xavier 2 of the last 3 years. In the Big East days, UC's schedule was garbage, but they have picked it up in the AAC. Right now, my biggest complaint with Mick's scheduling is too many 300+ RPI drags. But the top half of the schedule has been very strong the last 3 years.

Uh, not really. There is a lot of meh on that non-con schedule up there above your post. Ok, Xavier, Butler and Iowa State, well done-but he LOST all those games. Now the Jaundiced Leprechaun is playing the same mediocre A10 teams he used to routinely diss to try to look better- no props. There is too much of Norfolk State, Morgan State and Southeastern Louisiana on that sked. Blaaach.

And forget ESPN's BPI rankings, the RPI and KPI say different.

Cheesehead
03-10-2016, 09:21 AM
Me thinks MOR hates YTG.

I love it!!!!!! I just find the disdain really fun.

Masterofreality
03-10-2016, 04:14 PM
Me thinks MOR hates YTG.

I love it!!!!!! I just find the disdain really fun.

YTG is just a part of the Evil Empire.....that I hate everything about.

Masterofreality
03-12-2016, 06:18 AM
The Jaundiced Leprechaun's take after yesterday's meltdown:

From the Orlando Sentinel:

"Cincinnati coach Mick Cronin was unhappy with tournament officials after the loss.

"In 0.8 you can't catch the ball, take two steps and then shoot it," he explained. "You can't catch it, turn, bring it below your waist and then shoot it with enough force to shoot it 80 feet in 0.8 seconds. The clock didn't start on time."

Well, they reviewed it and called it good. I guess that maybe "you" can do that.

X-man
03-12-2016, 06:53 AM
The Jaundiced Leprechaun's take after yesterday's meltdown:

From the Orlando Sentinel:

"Cincinnati coach Mick Cronin was unhappy with tournament officials after the loss.

"In 0.8 you can't catch the ball, take two steps and then shoot it," he explained. "You can't catch it, turn, bring it below your waist and then shoot it with enough force to shoot it 80 feet in 0.8 seconds. The clock didn't start on time."

Well, they reviewed it and called it good. I guess that maybe "you" can do that.

YTG apparently doesn't understand that the ball only has to be out of the player's hand, not through the hoop, before the clock expires. If he did, he wouldn't have mentioned how far the ball traveled after the shot in his whine.

Masterofreality
03-12-2016, 08:39 AM
This year has been a classic series of YTG whines.

How anybody across town can be a fan of that troll and program is beyond me.

Does he have ANY recruits coming in next year? The "stars" he's recruited over there now, are not exactly doing it.

X-man
03-12-2016, 09:19 AM
This year has been a classic series of YTG whines.

How anybody across town can be a fan of that troll and program is beyond me.

Does he have ANY recruits coming in next year? The "stars" he's recruited over there now, are not exactly doing it.

Mick comes by it naturally. His brother is quoted as saying the shot used 1.9 seconds, so it shouldn't have counted. But if you look at the video, as I did this morning, it is clear that the clock correctly started when the ball was caught and the ball left the shooter's hands about 0.6 of a second later. The ref's appeared to have made the correct call, and even UC fans agree. Dan Cronin is as bad a whiner as his bro'.

D-West & PO-Z
03-12-2016, 09:22 AM
Getting the shot off or not the one thing I will say is the guy definitely traveled.

Glad they didnt call it though!

LA Muskie
03-12-2016, 09:23 AM
I'm not a Cronin fan by any stretch. But if that happened against us we would be apoplectic. And justifiably so.


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X-man
03-12-2016, 09:32 AM
I'm not a Cronin fan by any stretch. But if that happened against us we would be apoplectic. And justifiably so.


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Apoplectic at our coach for not getting his team to defend against that shot. Call a TO, coach!

Nigel Tufnel
03-12-2016, 09:49 AM
Does he have ANY recruits coming in next year? The "stars" he's recruited over there now, are not exactly doing it.

He somehow managed to get one of the best players in Ohio for next year. Jarron Cumberland may be Mr. Basketball in Ohio this year. I really like Cumberland, but I'll have to wait and see how his game translates to the next level. He has a weird looking shot and he doesn't jump much when shooting it, but it certainly goes through the hoop a lot. In the highest level AAU tourneys, Cumberland dominates. He is the offensive threat UC fans have been begging for....coincidentally, he plays at the Cintas tonight at 7 in the regional finals against Centerville.

LA Muskie
03-12-2016, 09:50 AM
Call a TO and let the offense set up a play ? I don't think there's a coach in the country who calls a TO there. Also, there was a defender about as close as you'd want one.


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D-West & PO-Z
03-12-2016, 11:32 AM
Call a TO and let the offense set up a play ? I don't think there's a coach in the country who calls a TO there. Also, there was a defender about as close as you'd want one.


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Youd dont call a timeout but the defender was way out of position. They all dropped back and then at last minute Caupain realized he should have been closer and started to creep up but way too later at that point. All you do is guard the inbounds and game over. You dont even guard it agressively but you have a guy up there. That was so bad.

But we would be freaking out as well. I havent looked close enough but I wouldnt be surprised if the clock didnt start right away. Also the guy blatantly traveled.

Masterofreality
03-12-2016, 11:32 AM
Call a TO and let the offense set up a play ? I don't think there's a coach in the country who calls a TO there. Also, there was a defender about as close as you'd want one.

Uh, yes there are...about 90% of them to make sure that guys are organized and aware.

And as for the defender being close, not really. No one was even in the backcourt when the ball was inbounded to 1/3 court. The shot wasn't 80 feet, it was about 55-60 feet. If it was 80 it would have been short. With a defender in back court the ball never could have been inbounded 35 feet up.

Bad coaching, but actually somewhat understandable in the excitement......but that's the kind of stuff supposedly why $2 million/year coaches get paid $2million/year. To keep their wits about them.

Mick's only a half-wit though.

X-man
03-12-2016, 12:12 PM
Getting the shot off or not the one thing I will say is the guy definitely traveled.

Glad they didnt call it though!
Wish they had. I wanted UC to win that game and keep overrated UConn from even sniffing the bubble.

X-band '01
03-12-2016, 12:35 PM
If UConn is a potential 11 to face Xavier in the 2nd round, I'd take it in a heartbeat.

Masterofreality
03-12-2016, 12:58 PM
Wish they had. I wanted UC to win that game and keep overrated UConn from even sniffing the bubble.

Hopefully UCon will get their comeuppance vs Temple

Actually I don't know who to root for/against in that schlocky league. A mess of mediocrity.

Kahns Krazy
03-13-2016, 11:09 AM
I really don't think he traveled, at least not in a way that ever gets called in any game. He is in motion when he catches the ball. They never seem to count that first foot that touches when you are coming down with the ball. He then plants his right foot, and launches off the left foot. If you are going to call that a blatant travel, then there is almost no way to legally receive a pass while in motion as you would need to release the ball from your hand before first foot down comes up.

Also, lost on Mick is 1) the screen clock is not the game clock. 2) the game clock read 1.0 when Johnsons shot went through the rim. 3) he is a whiny little bitch. Play defense, and there is no way that shot has a chance.

Mick has really amped up the bitching lately. He sucks so bad.

D-West & PO-Z
03-13-2016, 01:11 PM
I really don't think he traveled, at least not in a way that ever gets called in any game. He is in motion when he catches the ball. They never seem to count that first foot that touches when you are coming down with the ball. He then plants his right foot, and launches off the left foot. If you are going to call that a blatant travel, then there is almost no way to legally receive a pass while in motion as you would need to release the ball from your hand before first foot down comes up.

Also, lost on Mick is 1) the screen clock is not the game clock. 2) the game clock read 1.0 when Johnsons shot went through the rim. 3) he is a whiny little bitch. Play defense, and there is no way that shot has a chance.

Mick has really amped up the bitching lately. He sucks so bad.

He took 2 full steps without ever dribbling the basketball. You arent even supposed to be allowed to take 1 step without dribbling.

But I agree its all moot if they play D.

Kahns Krazy
03-14-2016, 09:10 PM
He took 2 full steps without ever dribbling the basketball. You arent even supposed to be allowed to take 1 step without dribbling.

But I agree its all moot if they play D.

At most he took one step. He lands left, then right, then launches off his left. If you read the traveling rule, im really not sure that is a travel. He's allowed to leave his pivot foot in the motion of shooting. Regardless, it's consistent with how a player in motion receiving a pass is always called.

D-West & PO-Z
03-14-2016, 09:44 PM
At most he took one step. He lands left, then right, then launches off his left. If you read the traveling rule, im really not sure that is a travel. He's allowed to leave his pivot foot in the motion of shooting. Regardless, it's consistent with how a player in motion receiving a pass is always called.

Just watched again thinking maybe I missed it and watched in slow motion. He catches the ball and starts his motion toward half court with left foot as his pivot foot, steps with right (which he'd be able to do if he didnt then lift his left) and then steps with left as well. Clear travel, you cant catch a ball and take any steps without dribbling no matter how you receive the pass. As you said he catches on his left and then launches from his left, he has to take 2 steps to be able to do that (Right then left).

What will really give it away is pausing it where he catches the ball just barely behind the 3 point line. Then pause at where he jumps to heave the ball, it is well behind where an NBA 3 point line would be. He moved several feet without taking a dribble. No way around that being a travel.

Anyway glad they didnt call it and UC suffered as a result. And I agree Mick is a cry baby, I think most would be on the losing end of that play but because he is constantly being a cry baby it rings kind of hollow coming from him.

xustritch
03-15-2016, 09:46 AM
Kahns is right on this one. You are allowed a pivot and a step when taking a shot, regardless of whether it is a layup or a half court heave. (Or 2 steps if you want to consider the pivot a step). He starts with his left foot on the ground, pivots onto his right, and then takes his step onto his left again when he heaves the shot. It is not a travel until his right foot hits the ground again. Even Cronin was emphatic that it was not a travel on his radio show last night.

The timing is an entirely other issue. Can that all happen in .8 seconds? Regardless of whether it can physically happen or not, I think we have all seen more egregious clock issues!

XUFan09
03-15-2016, 10:14 AM
The time is definitely the question. I've always heard that it takes 0.3-0.4 seconds to catch and shoot. Can he really do all that extra stuff in 0.4-0.5 seconds? Oh well. It was crazy awesome, even if the loser wasn't UC.

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D-West & PO-Z
03-15-2016, 11:41 AM
Yeah I think the time is very questionable as well.

Fair enough on the "travel" If multiple people are saying what he did was within the rules I am surely wrong (wont be the first or last time). I had no idea you could move so far and take 2 steps on a catch without ever dribbling and that be ok. Learn something new everyday.

Cheesehead
03-15-2016, 12:26 PM
Mick was on with Mo Egger last night and Mack was on later. I didn't get a chance to listen to Mack but Mick is douche bag. He was saying his team could have been 28-4 this year instead of 22-10 because of their close losses. Mick stated they should have beaten Iowa State, Butler, and Tulsa. Mick also said had they beaten UCONN, UC would have definitely won the tournament. Really? Really?

Mick doesn't seem to understand it is not what you could have done, it's what you actually did. He's pathetic. He is a joke.

Masterofreality
03-15-2016, 01:12 PM
Mick was on with Mo Egger last night and Mack was on later. I didn't get a chance to listen to Mack but Mick is douche bag. He was saying his team could have been 28-4 this year instead of 22-10 because of their close losses. Mick stated they should have beaten Iowa State, Butler, and Tulsa. Mick also said had they beaten UCONN, UC would have definitely won the tournament. Really? Really?

Mick doesn't seem to understand it is not what you could have done, it's what you actually did. He's pathetic. He is a joke.

Sippin Mick refuses to acknowledge that his terrible offense schematics and inability to draw up a play that actually works...other than just putting the ball in Caupain's hands to dribble, hope and throw up a prayer, made a difference in why SucKS lost all those games. Hell, they even got shot clock violations out of time outs!!!

The guy's whole theme of scoring is "turn the opposition over and get layups" or "throw bricks up at the rim and have big dudes rebound and stuff back in". That truly is it. His team's make my eyes bleed...and Tardy Turtles' postings during the SucKS /UCon game were classic.

Xpectations
03-15-2016, 03:56 PM
A few comments on the UConn miracle shot:
The clock did start late by 0.2 seconds.
Not only can that shot be taken in 0.8 seconds (sorry, Mick), but it was actually taken 0.6 seconds after first contact with the ball.



Here is a rundown with two replays of the shot: http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2016/3/11/11209304/cincinnatis-coach-thought-uconns-miracle-70-foot-buzzer-beater-was-no

The first replay superimposes the actual game shot clock, where you can clearly see the shot was started late upon initial player contact.

The second replay ignores the game shot clock and superimposes it's own clock that starts the moment the player touches the ball, which is very easy to do. That clock shows the shot was released with 0.2 seconds remaining. So even accounting for a temporal aliasing error upon first contact (a maximum of 1 frame, which is 1/60th of a second), and the same error upon release of the ball, the shot was clearly released in time.

Masterofreality
03-15-2016, 05:11 PM
By the way, if anyone doesn't think that Mike DeCoursey isn't a honk for YTG, they should check his timeline on Twitter from 4 days ago. Totally in YTG's jockstrap and defending. And totally agreeing that the UCon shot should not have counted, while discounting and ignoring all video evidence...including a pun accurate superimposed clock that the officials used to rule it good.

Never, ever think that DeCoursey is unbiased...and he does not like Xavier. Period.

Xpectations
03-15-2016, 08:49 PM
By the way, if anyone doesn't think that Mike DeCoursey isn't a honk for YTG, they should check his timeline on Twitter from 4 days ago. Totally in YTG's jockstrap and defending. And totally agreeing that the UCon shot should not have counted, while discounting and ignoring all video evidence...including a pun accurate superimposed clock that the officials used to rule it good.

Never, ever think that DeCoursey is unbiased...and he does not like Xavier. Period.

TSNMike's primary argument is that the clock started late. That is true. The problem is, the clock should have started 0.2 seconds before it did during the game. However, UConn got the shot off with 0.4 seconds left on the shot clock.

Again, had the shot clock started the very moment the UConn player touched the ball, he still would have launched the shot with 0.2 seconds left on the clock.

That's pretty lazy coverage by the Sporting News. Yes, you can easily prove the clock started late. But you can just as easily prove the shooter launched the shot in 0.6 seconds.

Actually, if you want to get technical, the UC shot fell through the hoop and the net with 1.0 seconds left (literally, a frame or two after the shot clock read 1.1 seconds).

Kahns Krazy
03-16-2016, 11:28 AM
TSNMike's primary argument is that the clock started late. That is true. The problem is, the clock should have started 0.2 seconds before it did during the game. However, UConn got the shot off with 0.4 seconds left on the shot clock.

Again, had the shot clock started the very moment the UConn player touched the ball, he still would have launched the shot with 0.2 seconds left on the clock.

That's pretty lazy coverage by the Sporting News. Yes, you can easily prove the clock started late. But you can just as easily prove the shooter launched the shot in 0.6 seconds.

Actually, if you want to get technical, the UC shot fell through the hoop and the net with 1.0 seconds left (literally, a frame or two after the shot clock read 1.1 seconds).

This. The shot took less than 0.8 seconds and there should have been 1.0 on the clock anyway. The footwork was legal, the shot was off in time, and it was properly reviewed and adjudicated by the officials. Mick is a whiny piece of shit which is precisely why this thread exists.

Cheesehead
03-16-2016, 11:50 AM
"Mick is a whiny piece of shit which is precisely why this thread exists."

Word.

Xpectations
03-16-2016, 03:58 PM
On a somewhat related note, many of you are probably aware that the NCAA has a rule that states a player can only "tap" the ball rather than catch and "throw" (the NCAA's term) the ball into the hoop if there is less than 0.3 seconds remaining on the clock.

Now, you might think this is reasonable and they have done exhaustive studies that prove a player cannot possibly catch and shoot a ball unless there are 0.4 seconds remaining or more. However, you'd be wrong--or maybe, more specifically, the NCAA is wrong in making that assumption.

Watch this final play in a game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_s1nJH8aPo)between Florida Gulf Coast and South Florida a couple seasons ago. You'll see the shot is ruled no good because the player caught and "threw" the ball into the goal with 0.3 seconds left on the clock. So by rule, the shot was no good, even though the backboard light had not gone off before the ball left the shooter's hands.

So it's easy to assume the shot clock operator was simply inaccurate when starting the game clock because we know it's impossible to catch and shoot in that amount of time.

However, Deadspin actually pulled each frame of the video into an editor and found that the the player had contact with the ball for exactly 6 frames. Given that the captured video was 30 frame per second, that PROVES the player had contact with the ball for 0.2 seconds.

Much like UC fans (and coaches) who simply use "common sense logic" assumptions to state their case (i.e., no one can catch, gather while taking a step, and shoot a ball in 0.8 seconds), people don't realize just how rapidly a sequence of events can occur in a fraction of second.

The beauty of video is that the rate at which it changes frames is completely empirical. It is inarguable. Provided that you can visually establish when all key moments occur (i.e., initial contact and final release of the ball), it really couldn't be easier to prove or disprove whether any event occurred in time. And proving it is completely independent of the accuracy of the shot clock operator or any silly assumptions you might want to apply regarding how long something should take.

American X
03-18-2016, 11:28 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Do you think Phil Martelli will bronze the beating heart the Hawks just ripped from UC's chest?

coasterville95
03-18-2016, 11:44 PM
I may be going soft, but I can't gloat and rub that in UC fans faces. I mean, I know how pissed I'd be if that happened to us.

You know 4 of 5 officiating crews would have said "video is inconclusive" and let it go to overtime.

And I was all ready to tweet THE HAWK WILL NEVER DIE!! Yes, in all caps.

Wait, hey Mick, what's it like losing to an A10 team?

OTRMUSKIE
03-19-2016, 01:27 AM
I may be going soft, but I can't gloat and rub that in UC fans faces. I mean, I know how pissed I'd be if that happened to us.

You know 4 of 5 officiating crews would have said "video is inconclusive" and let it go to overtime.

And I was all ready to tweet THE HAWK WILL NEVER DIE!! Yes, in all caps.

Wait, hey Mick, what's it like losing to an A10 team?


Right call but UC played tough. VD played awful but that's to be expected.

Masterofreality
03-19-2016, 09:46 AM
Of course, The Jaundiced Leprechaun's whine....since he really couldn't argue the clear video evidence that Ellis' hands were still on the ball when the clock went to zeros....is that Ellis got fouled during the attempt getting "whacked on the head". Really? C'mon, man. NO ref is going to make that call at that point in the game or at any other point in the game for that matter. That is just what inside play is about and the "foul" sure didn't keep Ellis from stuffing it back in.

Sippin' Mick just can't take a loss as it is without bitching about how he and his team got victimized in some form. Hey, troll. How about figuring out how to defend a three at crunch time, you "defensive genius"?

X-man
03-19-2016, 10:02 AM
The Miller boys, Huggybear, and now Sippin' Mick are all on the sidelines watching the Show (and Xavier). And of course Beaknose didn't even make the Show this year. In other words, all is right with the world.

X-man
03-19-2016, 10:09 AM
Sippin' Mick just can't take a loss as it is without bitching about how he and his team got victimized in some form. Hey, troll. How about figuring out how to defend a three at crunch time, you "defensive genius"?

Mick really ought to be bitching at Ellis for dunking when the clock was an issue. Compare Ellis' effort with what the Iowa big did at the buzzer to see how to use your brain to win the game instead of a "flex". Link: http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/113008/adam-woodbury-bails-out-iowa-with-buzzer-beating-layup

Masterofreality
03-20-2016, 08:00 AM
Mick is now a logistics expert. He knows everything about time and space:

"The hit to Octavius Ellis' head, which was an obvious foul, probably caused him to re-adjust his finishing of the play .2 to .3 seconds later. Again, a very unfortunate ending for us. You never want to lose in the tournament on a missed call or a disputable call. Ours ended on both."

Nice. A guy is at the basket stuffing it in with little if any resistance, but now it's that he "lost" 2/10 of a second "probably", "readjusting"..That annoying troll can some up with anything to justify how he got "screwed" in life. Amazing.

Kahns Krazy
03-20-2016, 09:55 AM
Mick is such a fool. It's amazing to me that he continues to whine and bitch after its all over. He's a repeat loser that will continue to lose as long as he looks for excuses. I can't wait for UC to extend his contract.

Masterofreality
03-20-2016, 11:55 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

UNLV reportedly interested in YTG.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/university-of-cincinnati/2016/03/20/report-unlv-interested-ucs-cronin/82046578/

GoMuskies
03-20-2016, 12:01 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

UNLV reportedly interested in YTG.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/university-of-cincinnati/2016/03/20/report-unlv-interested-ucs-cronin/82046578/

I'm sure the source of this story is YTG's agent.

UCGRAD4X
03-20-2016, 12:19 PM
"The hit to Octavius Ellis' head, which was an obvious foul, probably caused him to re-adjust his finishing of the play .2 to .3 seconds later. Again, a very unfortunate ending for us. You never want to lose in the tournament on a missed call or a disputable call. Ours ended on both."

What a joke!

The call was neither missed or disputed except in his puny mind. Even the radio homers called it right away. They wined about how many games sUCks has lost in similar fashion, incessantly, but there was no mistake about how the call was going to go as the refs convened.

What a fitting way to end the season.

Mick should man up and admit that the reason they lose so many close games is because they are generally over matched in the coaching department.

Skip Prosser, however you rate him in the pantheon of Musketeer coaching, always gave credit to the players when X won, and when they lost, "We were out-coached."

paulxu
03-20-2016, 12:29 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

UNLV reportedly interested in YTG.

UC might hire Gregory, or Miller, and we could bring the Carter faces out of mothballs.

waggy
03-20-2016, 03:52 PM
I'm sure the source of this story is YTG's agent.


:laugh:

Masterofreality
03-20-2016, 06:14 PM
I'm sure the source of this story is YTG's agent.


:laugh:

Interestingly enough, the Las Vegas Review Journal is also reporting that the Jaundiced Leprechaun is angling for a contract extension...

Cheesehead
03-21-2016, 10:39 AM
Notice how Mack didn't blame the game on the refs? That is called class. Mick doesn't know anything about it.

Juice
03-21-2016, 08:33 PM
Paul Dehner Jr. ‏@pauldehnerjr 1h1 hour ago
Mick Cronin with the no-show at his own radio show tonight? #Yikes #FanTheFlames

Masterofreality
03-21-2016, 09:02 PM
Paul Dehner Jr. ‏@pauldehnerjr 1h1 hour ago
Mick Cronin with the no-show at his own radio show tonight? #Yikes #FanTheFlames

Way to violate your contract...not only that, of course you pick the Monday after a loss to an A10 team to pull a no-show.

What a cretin!

paulxu
03-21-2016, 11:44 PM
Cue the Lunken plane tracker


Jeff Goodman Retweeted
Enquirer Sports ‏@ENQSports · 4h4 hours ago
JUST IN: #UC #Bearcats grant UNLV wish to speak to Mick Cronin: http://cin.ci/1ReCNo5

coasterville95
03-22-2016, 07:37 PM
Whose fans are more excited. UNLV or UCs.

LA Muskie
03-22-2016, 07:43 PM
Mick is now a logistics expert. He knows everything about time and space:

"The hit to Octavius Ellis' head, which was an obvious foul, probably caused him to re-adjust his finishing of the play .2 to .3 seconds later. Again, a very unfortunate ending for us. You never want to lose in the tournament on a missed call or a disputable call. Ours ended on both."

Nice. A guy is at the basket stuffing it in with little if any resistance, but now it's that he "lost" 2/10 of a second "probably", "readjusting"..That annoying troll can some up with anything to justify how he got "screwed" in life. Amazing.

Mick sounds a lot like NateSteve. Just sayin'...


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Masterofreality
03-23-2016, 10:35 AM
Apparently YTG in Vegas is pretty serious. BREAKING NEWS


Report: Cronin in Vegas to talk UNLV job
Tom Groeschen, tgroeschen@enquirer.com 11:25 a.m. EDT March 23, 2016

University of Cincinnati coach Mick Cronin has arrived in Las Vegas to discuss the vacant UNLV (University of Nevada, Las Vegas) basketball job with school officials, according to the Las Vegas Sun.

Cronin flew into Las Vegas early Wednesday, according to the Sun. UNLV plans to offer a contract that would pay as much as $3 million per season. At UC, Cronin in 2014 signed a seven-year extension that can earn him up to $2.2 million annually.

At UNLV, Cronin's pay would more than double what UNLV has ever paid a basketball coach. Former UNLV coach Lon Kruger, with the Rebels from 2004 to 2011, made as much as just more than $1 million a year. Former UNLV coach Dave Rice, fired Jan. 10, was making a base salary of $300,000 and a total package of $850,000 annually, according to a Mountain West Conference database compiled by the Albuquerque Journal.

UC athletic director Mike Bohn has declined comment the past two days, and Cronin has not responded to messages from The Enquirer seeking comment.

The 44-year-old Cronin is a native Cincinnatian who has lived most of his life in the area, a graduate of both La Salle High School and UC. Cronin has been the head coach at UC for 10 years, with a 207-129 record and NCAA Tournament appearances in each of the last six seasons. UC went 22-11 this season.

Over the years, Cronin has fielded multiple inquiries about other jobs. In 2014, The Enquirer reported Cronin had been approached in recent years about the North Carolina State, Virginia Tech and Nebraska jobs, among others.

In March 2015, Cronin had this response when asked about being approached for other jobs.

"I'm the only guy who has an agent that doesn't need one. I have no interest, none. The only job I have an interest in is the Cincinnati job."

This looks like a perfect case of the fugitive trying to beat the posse out of town before they nail him. Damnit. Wish the guy stuck around forever.

paulxu
03-23-2016, 10:42 AM
Good. Let's get Mick in Vegas and Archie at UC.

GoMuskies
03-23-2016, 10:45 AM
Would a Xavier guy take the UC job if offered? Would UC hire a Xavier guy?

I'm thinking of Schmidt, Kelsey, Steele and Murray here.

paulxu
03-23-2016, 10:48 AM
Boy, that's a conundrum.
I'm serious about Archie. If they could tell them they'll soon be in the Big12, I think he would move down 75 in a heartbeat.