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DC Muskie
03-10-2011, 10:41 PM
I never like idea of tenure. I have seen many people who basically have tenure in jobs and they really suck, because simply, they have no reason to improve.

Take Digger. I just heard him say that Lunardi has Alabama out and Richmond in. Digger made it a point to say that if he has Richmond in, Alabama has to be in...why? Because they are 4-2 against the east and beat Kentucky.

Really Digger? They beat Kentucky so they are in? Do you and Dick Vitale just sit around and declare teams in for one big victory?

You know Alabama lost to Purdue. Know who beat them? Richmond.

You know Alabama lost to Seton Hall. Know who beat them? Richmond.

Why do you waste your time comparing Alabama to Richmond? Why not Clemson? Michigan State? Or Boston College? Why Richmond?

This is why I don't normally watch these clowns. And they are clowns. They wear makeup, have highlighters that match their ties and think they know shit about basketball.

Go to bed Digger.

waggy
03-10-2011, 10:43 PM
Digger also needs to stock up on depends, buy a plot at gate of heaven, and move to florida.

DC Muskie
03-10-2011, 10:46 PM
As long as his depends match the color of his highlighter, then maybe he would consider it.

pimpinthebox
03-10-2011, 11:04 PM
I tuned that douchebag out a long time ago.

CinciX12
03-10-2011, 11:13 PM
Digger also needs to stock up on depends, buy a plot at gate of heaven, and move to florida.

Absolutely not. His dead body being in the ground in Florida just raises property values because they are running out of room. As someone considering moving there, I need property values to not do that.

waggy
03-10-2011, 11:20 PM
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bobbiemcgee
03-10-2011, 11:22 PM
Digger also needs to stock up on depends, buy a plot at gate of heaven, and move to florida.

We don't need him, already got Dicky.

XULucho27
03-10-2011, 11:24 PM
Digger also needs to stock up on depends, buy a plot at gate of heaven, and move to florida.

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CinciX12
03-10-2011, 11:26 PM
We don't need him, already got Dicky.

Every time I go and visit my family down by you in Florida I have to hear about how awesome he is. My grandpa goes to the same pancake place that Dick goes to. Can you imagine how incredibly annoying him yelling would be at 9 am? Forget that.

SixFig
03-10-2011, 11:34 PM
Charles Barkley went HAM on Billy Packer.

I LOL'd

DoubleD86
03-11-2011, 12:12 AM
Every time I go and visit my family down by you in Florida I have to hear about how awesome he is. My grandpa goes to the same pancake place that Dick goes to. Can you imagine how incredibly annoying him yelling would be at 9 am? Forget that.

I am not a fan of Dicky V the broadcaster, but I have heard from multiple people that he is one of the nicest, most genuine and friendliest people in real life.

Blue Blooded-05
03-11-2011, 12:50 AM
Gameday is unwatchable. It simply baffles me how Disney executives can watch that show and be pleased with the the "personalities" they have assembled.

- Calling Reece Davis a "poor man's version of Chris Fowler" is an insult to poor people. Reece Davis is a "slumdog of Mumbai who eats bugs and bathes in the sh!t water of the Ganges" version of Chris Fowler.
- I cannot stand how Hubert Davis laughs 40-phucking times every minute... Seriously, Hubert... Nothing is funny; let alone THAT funny. At least he's not announcing games anymore.. Remember how bad he was when that white dude went off in the final 2 minutes of the X game at Saint Louis a couple years ago... "WOW!.... WOW!.....WOW!"
- The novely of Bob Knight wore off years ago. Does Knight even want to be there? The General adds nothing to the pre-game analysis and high definition has certainly not been kind to him. He looks like he's bored, pissed off and suffering from narcolepsy.
- Jay Bilas is the only one who I even kinda respect, although I don't always agree with him (see Xavier 2007).
- All the above and yet somehow... some way ... Digger Phelps manages to distinguish himself as the worst on-air personality in the history of television.

I refuse to watch that garbage.

Cincypunk.org
03-11-2011, 12:58 AM
I am not a fan of Dicky V the broadcaster, but I have heard from multiple people that he is one of the nicest, most genuine and friendliest people in real life.

I've heard the same thing. My parents have run into him a few times in Florida at a breakfast restaurant he always eats at and he always is very friendly to the people who come up to him to talk, ask for pictures, etc.

Titanxman04
03-11-2011, 06:54 AM
Gameday is unwatchable. It simply baffles me how Disney executives can watch that show and be pleased with the the "personalities" they have assembled.

- Calling Reece Davis a "poor man's version of Chris Fowler" is an insult to poor people. Reece Davis is a "slumdog of Mumbai who eats bugs and bathes in the sh!t water of the Ganges" version of Chris Fowler.
- I cannot stand how Hubert Davis laughs 40-phucking times every minute... Seriously, Hubert... Nothing is funny; let alone THAT funny. At least he's not announcing games anymore.. Remember how bad he was when that white dude went off in the final 2 minutes of the X game at Saint Louis a couple years ago... "WOW!.... WOW!.....WOW!"
- The novely of Bob Knight wore off years ago. Does Knight even want to be there? The General adds nothing to the pre-game analysis and high definition has certainly not been kind to him. He looks like he's bored, pissed off and suffering from narcolepsy.
- Jay Bilas is the only one who I even kinda respect, although I don't always agree with him (see Xavier 2007).
- All the above and yet somehow... some way ... Digger Phelps manages to distinguish himself as the worst on-air personality in the history of television.

I refuse to watch that garbage.

Geez man, tell us how you really feel.

Reece does a good job running that show. I don't know why you don't like him. He even took charge and basically told Digger to shut the hell up the other night when Digs was going on and on about officials being over-worked throughout the season after that St. John's/Rutgers game. Reece has solid input when he gives it, and basically does what he's asked to do.

Hubert has great insight. Bob Knight knows the game better than anyone too. And despite people not liking Knight, he knows basketball. He doesn't know the players names but the guy knows basketball.

Jay Bilas gets a bad rap on here. He made a big comment about X being in the Dance in '07 and folks still haven't forgiven him.

All in all, if you don't like it, don't watch it.

XUOWNSUC
03-11-2011, 07:07 AM
I tuned that douchebag out a long time ago.

Ditto.

Masterofreality
03-11-2011, 08:08 AM
Why do you waste your time comparing Alabama to Richmond? Why not Clemson? Michigan State? Or Boston College? Why Richmond?

Go to bed Digger.

Because it is B-Espn's constant wish to diss the A-10.

Again, the A-10 directly competes with their meal ticket- the Big Greased and they do not want any extra A-10 benefit that might steal recruits.

Also, do not forget that Alabama is in the SEC- another ESPN heavily covered league.

So, for ESPN it's a double dip- discount the A-10 while pumping an SEC team.

Not a complicated issue at all.

D-West & PO-Z
03-11-2011, 08:53 AM
Gameday is unwatchable. It simply baffles me how Disney executives can watch that show and be pleased with the the "personalities" they have assembled.

- Calling Reece Davis a "poor man's version of Chris Fowler" is an insult to poor people. Reece Davis is a "slumdog of Mumbai who eats bugs and bathes in the sh!t water of the Ganges" version of Chris Fowler.
- I cannot stand how Hubert Davis laughs 40-phucking times every minute... Seriously, Hubert... Nothing is funny; let alone THAT funny. At least he's not announcing games anymore.. Remember how bad he was when that white dude went off in the final 2 minutes of the X game at Saint Louis a couple years ago... "WOW!.... WOW!.....WOW!"
- The novely of Bob Knight wore off years ago. Does Knight even want to be there? The General adds nothing to the pre-game analysis and high definition has certainly not been kind to him. He looks like he's bored, pissed off and suffering from narcolepsy.
- Jay Bilas is the only one who I even kinda respect, although I don't always agree with him (see Xavier 2007).
- All the above and yet somehow... some way ... Digger Phelps manages to distinguish himself as the worst on-air personality in the history of television.

I refuse to watch that garbage.

HAHA. Love the comment about Hubert. He is always geeking out on TV. I feel like he might be really nervous, so he smokes a joint right before he goes on. I never know why he is laughing.

waggy
03-13-2011, 07:05 PM
ESPN assholes set their sites on UAB and VCU.

waggy
03-13-2011, 07:16 PM
I wish an asteroid would hit ESPN right now.

STL_XUfan
03-13-2011, 07:23 PM
I love how these guys don't think the Big East plays the RPI game.

waggy
03-13-2011, 07:24 PM
Die. Just die right now.

DC Muskie
03-13-2011, 07:26 PM
Wow, Digger is just simply an idiot.

It's not college basketball if you schedule enough to get into the tournament?

Va Tech is just pathetic. The ACC is just awful and they can't get in.

waggy
03-13-2011, 07:32 PM
They just spent 30 minutes collectively bitching about the selection committee and two of the last few teams in that just happen to come from non BCS conferences. Douche F'n Bags. Sorry.

X-Fan
03-13-2011, 07:39 PM
Well, Digger just said that he thinks Marquette will be favored over X, and that Syracuse is the most dangerous team in the bracket.

Big. East. Homers.

DC Muskie
03-13-2011, 07:43 PM
Jay actually said Marquette would be favored. You know cause they went 9-9 in the BE.

waggy
03-13-2011, 07:44 PM
Gottlieb did pick X, and they just had a nice little feature on Tu.

Feeling better now.

MADXSTER
03-13-2011, 07:47 PM
I think Digger embarrassed himself, though he probably doesn't realise it. The producers have got to be shaking their heads.

DoubleD86
03-13-2011, 07:48 PM
Jay actually said Marquette would be favored. You know cause they went 9-9 in the BE.

Jay also picked X to beat Marquette if I am not mistaken.

waggy
03-13-2011, 07:49 PM
The producers have got to be shaking their heads.

Exactly 30 minutes of collectively bitching? That's actually on the producers from my perspective.

LadyMuskie
03-13-2011, 07:57 PM
Ha! Gottlieb just picked Missouri over UC. LOVE IT! Mick Cronin's head is probably about to explode.

Masterofreality
03-13-2011, 07:57 PM
-Jay trashing VCU and UAB for being in but no criticsm of USC's bid

- Start a new Commercial: Jack Links Beef Jerky- Messin' with Greenburg.

-Virgina Tech's coach will be the go to "whiner" on every ESPN show this week.

-Joe Lunardi's percentage of pick went way down this year.
________

X-band '01
03-13-2011, 08:01 PM
Love the Messin' with Greenburg idea - too bad ObamaHood won't let me rep you for that.

waggy
03-13-2011, 08:08 PM
Barkley ain't no Big Greased homer. That's one thing I like about him.

Kenny Smith is the Byron Larkin of TV.

Lavin got way too much time on CBS, but can't be surprised having the biggest TV market in the world in play.

X-Fan
03-13-2011, 08:11 PM
Ha! Gottlieb just picked Missouri over UC. LOVE IT! Mick Cronin's head is probably about to explode.

You don't think UC would win the Big 12? ;)

X-band '01
03-13-2011, 08:15 PM
-- Start a new Commercial: Jack Links Beef Jerky- Messin' with Greenburg.

http://www.wvupressbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/vt_nit.jpg

waggy
03-13-2011, 08:25 PM
The Big Greased doesn't have to play any of the "first round" games, but I think they are going to take a bunch of losses in the "second round". I bet they lose more than half.

Masterofreality
03-13-2011, 08:54 PM
Xavier has a chance to eliminate 18% of the Big Greased all by itself!!

I love the draw.

STL_XUfan
03-13-2011, 09:57 PM
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Bubble teams I don't feel sorry for: Colorado (they are a$$holes); Harvard (I assume they are a$$holes); St. Mary's (named after a chick)

Masterofreality
03-13-2011, 10:50 PM
I'll tell you who probably got screwed more than Colorado or VA. Tech- St. Marys.

RPI- 46
Non-conference SOS 40
Wins over Mississippi State, St. Johns, Gonzaga
Record 22-8

Looks to me like they had a lot better resume than the guys that Duggler and Jay are bitching about.

xubrew
03-14-2011, 12:16 AM
on todays like today i'm reminded why i hate commentators, and for that matter most of the media in general. not all of it. some of them are great, but i hate a lot of it. they're easy to tune out most of the time, but today is a day where it's nearly impossible.

espn spends ninety percent of their time covering fifteen percent of the teams, yet they deam themselves to be experts. they're not. not only did vcu have more good wins than virginia tech, they're a better team than virginia tech. if virginia tech has a problem with it, perhaps they should play vcu. i bet they'd lose more often than not.

virginia tech was 4-6 on the road, with their best true road win coming against maryland. they also beat florida state on a neutral floor. that's their only tournament caliber win away from home.

vcu won at old dominion, beat ucla on a neutral floor, and beat george mason on a neutral floor. that's three wins away from home that are all better than virginia tech's neutral floor win against florida state....whom they barely beat because the shot at the buzzer was waved off. vcu won their games decisively. they also won at wichita state, which is better than any true road win virginia tech has.

vcu did have some bad losses, but so did virginia tech.

THERE IS NO COMPARISON!!!! vcu's profile is better. vcu's team is better. vcu is the right selection. END OF STORY!!!! but, since vcu is not among the fifteen percent of teams that espn spends ninety percent of their time covering, they got it wrong.

for the record, i slopped together a list where i tried to guess what i thought the committee would do. i thought they would take virginia tech over vcu even though i believed vcu to be better. they didn't, and it was DEFINITELY the right call.

i'm sure seth greenberg is a nice guy, but he's also a complete gas bag. each and every year he's complaining about how he got left out and how someone else was put in. not only that, the commentators all seem to agree with him. i have a simple question for him....

if you don't like that these teams get in ahead of you year after year after year after year, then why the hell don't you ever play them??

that's the question the media should be asking, but instead they're belly-aching right along with him. if the tournament were to expand to 128 teams, i can guarantee you virginia tech would be the 129th team, and seth greenberg would be bitching, and digger phelps would be right in his corner.

i'll go further than that. although they don't have the resume, i think on the court harvard is better, who also isn't in the tournament. i also believe colorado would beat virginia tech on a neutral floor most of the time, and they're not in the tournament either.

xubrew
03-14-2011, 12:22 AM
I'll tell you who probably got screwed more than Colorado or VA. Tech- St. Marys.

RPI- 46
Non-conference SOS 40
Wins over Mississippi State, St. Johns, Gonzaga
Record 22-8

Looks to me like they had a lot better resume than the guys that Duggler and Jay are bitching about.

virginia tech wasn't screwed at all. see above.

i don't feel too sorry for saint mary's. they did lose to san diego, and really didn't beat anyone other than at gonzaga, who doesn't have all that strong of a seed themselves. the saint john's win came at a time when saint john's wasn't playing really well, and the committee does look at things like that. truthfully, i think they're a better team than uab, but uab did win their conference outright and that always seems to carry a ton of weight.

but, yes, they're on the list of teams that isn't in the ncaas that are better than virginia tech.

whitesox
03-14-2011, 03:17 PM
xubrew, completely agree with your take.

Good blog post: http://joesheehanbaseball.blogspot.com/2011/03/from-345-to-68-epilogue.html

I probably would have had Colorado in over USC, but you can make an argument for about any combinations of teams that were on the bubble. I wouldn't have had a problem it Virginia Tech got a bid, either- I had them in over UAB, but no one on the bubble clearly and unquestionably deserved to be in or out in my opinion and I wasn't shocked UAB got in.

The worst part about the analysis was everyone acting shocked that UAB and VCU got in- particularly the idea they didn't know VCU was on the bubble. I don't understand how you could be a college basketball analyst and not know those teams were in the picture and had a shot at a bid.

xubrew
03-14-2011, 03:40 PM
xubrew, completely agree with your take.

Good blog post: http://joesheehanbaseball.blogspot.com/2011/03/from-345-to-68-epilogue.html

I probably would have had Colorado in over USC, but you can make an argument for about any combinations of teams that were on the bubble. I wouldn't have had a problem it Virginia Tech got a bid, either- I had them in over UAB, but no one on the bubble clearly and unquestionably deserved to be in or out in my opinion and I wasn't shocked UAB got in.

The worst part about the analysis was everyone acting shocked that UAB and VCU got in- particularly the idea they didn't know VCU was on the bubble. I don't understand how you could be a college basketball analyst and not know those teams were in the picture and had a shot at a bid.

HOLY CRAP!!!

that was the most scathing, yet most complete, most informed and most well laid out argument against espn and mainstream media in general that i've read in a very long time.

well done. i feel like standing up and applauding right now.

i don't know who that guy is, but he deserves much kudos. THAT is the kind of person people should be listening to. not espn.

whitesox
03-14-2011, 03:45 PM
Exactly what I thought. I got the link from Basketball Prospectus- don't know the blogger, but that is a well-written and (in my opinion) accurate critique. I would love to see the guys from ESPN or CBS try to respond to this- I hate how they get so caught up in their own perspective that they think it is the only view of things.

Edit: I thought I recognized the name- he was one of the founders of Baseball Prospectus, does some stuff with SI, and has been working with Basketball Prospectus from their start.

Masterofreality
03-14-2011, 05:13 PM
Wow. Give that guy a cigar.

The best written critique of the ESPN design with the most back-up.

waggy
03-14-2011, 06:04 PM
:)



You want to be ignorant about why the selection committee would pick a team that won a top-10 conference outright, went 10-7 against the RPI top 100 and posted the highest RPI of any bubble team, fine. You want to ignore road record and top-100 wins and schedules within a conference, fine. But if you go on the air in front of millions of people and lie -- just flat-out lie -- about who has the advantages and disadvantages in scheduling in college basketball, you should be ashamed of yourself. What Hubert Davis and Digger Phelps did last night was no less embarrassing to themselves and their network than what Billy Packer did five years ago when he showed such incredulity over the selection of George Mason, a perfectly-qualified Colonial team, to the field.

You'd think everyone would have learned.

I could probably write 15,000 words on the "Bracketology" show. There were more erroneous, easily-disproven assertions crammed into two hours than I can every remember seeing on live television. There were more bad ideas about what a tournament resume than I could hope to summarize -- Digger Phelps was particularly productive on this score. I've pretty much stopped watching baseball studio shows because I couldn't take the "analysis"; this show made "Baseball Tonight" look like Yalta.

KingCole
03-14-2011, 09:11 PM
That blog article is great and calls ESPN out for what they really are, a shill for the conferences they cover most. The bashing of VCU and UAB was shameful and reminicient of what was said about Xavier in 2007. The fact that Digger Phelps is still employed by ESPN only furthers their lack of credibility in my mind. Are you going to seriously cover the sports in which you claim to be the "experts" or just rant and rave biased unresearched false information? ESPN has become less about covering sports and more about promoting their brand and products.

JAPER
03-14-2011, 09:40 PM
http://joesheehanbaseball.blogspot.com/2011/03/from-345-to-68-epilogue.html

Must read. Well said. I'm impressed.

I was taken aback by the ESPN on-slaught last night and again this morning on MikeNMike. Dan Dakich was a one man defender at times last night.

I believe I saw a graphic that 30 of the 37 at-large spots when to "power" conference teams. If Colorado and VT get those above VCU and UAB, then in turns to 32-5. That would have caused even more of a stir/buzz from those outside the "power" and rightfully so.

I'm very glad the committee picks teams like UAB that win the regular season and teams like VCU that win on the road. To me, the best teams are those that win in tough environments and stand the test of time. Colorado had one or two AWAY victories including a squeaker at Tx tech.

DC Muskie
03-17-2011, 07:34 AM
Man does Digger hate the A-10 or what? Picked Penn State and Vandy. I really believe if an A-10 team was a number one seed, Digger would pick their first round opponent.

It's like the A-10 got together and donkey punched his girlfriend or something. That's how pissed he is against the A-10.

xuwin
03-17-2011, 08:55 AM
Man does Digger hate the A-10 or what? Picked Penn State and Vandy. I really believe if an A-10 team was a number one seed, Digger would pick their first round opponent.

It's like the A-10 got together and donkey punched his girlfriend or something. That's how pissed he is against the A-10.

Have you seen how all the A-10 teams not named X have done in the first round of the tournament lately?

xavierj
03-17-2011, 09:01 AM
Man does Digger hate the A-10 or what? Picked Penn State and Vandy. I really believe if an A-10 team was a number one seed, Digger would pick their first round opponent.

It's like the A-10 got together and donkey punched his girlfriend or something. That's how pissed he is against the A-10.

I think he is upset that former commish Bruno shunned his advances.

DC Muskie
03-17-2011, 09:42 AM
Have you seen how all the A-10 teams not named X have done in the first round of the tournament lately?

Yes and I have also not seen Penn State IN the tournament since 2001, and I have seen Vandy get bounced twice in the first round in the last four years, the other two not even making it.

So do all of the SEC teams or Big Ten get to advance in Digger's eyes, simply becuase they play each other? If that's so, then right there is my problem. Hell Jay picked both A-10 teams. He must not realize that Temple lost to Cornell last year and Penn State won the NIT two years ago.

chico
03-17-2011, 10:00 AM
Yes and I have also not seen Penn State IN the tournament since 2001.

Where they lost to - Temple. I know it has no bearing on today's game, just found it interesting.

CleXU
03-17-2011, 11:10 AM
Digger picks 2-3 teams every march to be his little pets. He only studies those 3 teams and learns nothing about anyone else. He then throws out random bull from that orphus called his mouth which can be completely wrong or he'll occassionally get close by describing that team... all beit from a previous year. I notice it more when he talks about Xavier (obv. know them the most) but if you've even looked at a schedule and the basic stats for a team you can catch him spewing blatantly wrong info.

As you can see i'm starting to embrace the anger and get pumped up for Friday.

Perma Fro
03-17-2011, 11:17 AM
I'm not a Facebook guy, but if you are here is the perfect group for you.

F*ck Digger Phelps

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=97225245872

chico
03-17-2011, 12:09 PM
Charles Barkley is the anti-Digger. Maybe not in terms of knowledge, but I love how he says the Big East is overrated and has WVa going down an X beating Syracuse.

DC Muskie
03-17-2011, 06:44 PM
Good job Digger!

romanround
03-17-2011, 07:27 PM
twice he said ur did not deserve a bid.

DC Muskie
03-17-2011, 07:52 PM
How can you keep Alabama out! They beat Kentucky!

Masterofreality
03-17-2011, 08:24 PM
Man does Digger hate the A-10 or what? Picked Penn State and Vandy. I really believe if an A-10 team was a number one seed, Digger would pick their first round opponent.

It's like the A-10 got together and donkey punched his girlfriend or something. That's how pissed he is against the A-10.


Have you seen how all the A-10 teams not named X have done in the first round of the tournament lately?

Lately would be today, and the A-10 is 2-0 vs Big 10 and SEC.

redsfan33
03-17-2011, 08:56 PM
Charles Barkley is the anti-Digger. Maybe not in terms of knowledge, but I love how he says the Big East is overrated and has WVa going down an X beating Syracuse.

Barkley said "I am personally against all Big East teams winning in this tourney" after a clip of St Johns getting off their bus played.

Good man, even if he is more of an NBA guy.

DC Muskie
03-18-2011, 09:03 AM
Dickie V picked Marquette. Why? Because they play in the Big East. The inventor of light.

The Big East does remember the Alamo. The Big East was both Homecoming Queen and King.

The Big East always gets their choice of meat. Money is not an option for the Big East.

MADXSTER
03-18-2011, 09:33 AM
http://joesheehanbaseball.blogspot.com/2011/03/from-345-to-68-epilogue.html

Must read. Well said. I'm impressed.

If I could rep this Joe guy I would. Excellent Excellent read. Right on the money.

xavierj
03-18-2011, 09:46 AM
twice he said ur did not deserve a bid.

Isn't funny how they slam Richmond and VCU but not a peep about the fraud that is Illinois basketball getting in and getting a 9 seed. How did that happen? They should be like a 6 seed in the NIT. They will get it handed to them against UNLV. Didn't deserve a bid after they underachieved all year.

Guess they didn't want Bruce Webber to get canned. Illinois finished 9-10 in conference (tourney included), they won 3 road games all year against Western Michigan, Iowa and Minnesota, they lost to 6-24 Illinois Chicago and they were only 6-10 their last 16 games. That is who Bilas, Digger and Dicky should be going after. But they play in the Big 10 so they are off limits.

MADXSTER
03-18-2011, 10:17 AM
Digger and Dickie have a pecking order by conference. It's somewhat amusing to guess who they are going to pick. Look at the teams and what conference they play in and you can figure out who they'll pick.