View Full Version : Kathy Griffin at it again?
boozehound
03-07-2011, 01:59 PM
Sarah Palin Slams Kathy Griffin (http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/03/07/sarah-palin-slams-kathy-griffin-50-year-old-bully/#)
First of all, I despise Sarah Palin, but good for her for standing up for her family.
This really reeks of a washed-up D-list comedienne trying desparately to get some publicity. Going after people's 16 year old kid's isn't 'edgy', it's inappropriate. Kathy Griffin is so washed-up that she doesn't even know what edgy is anymore. It reminds me of Bob Saget's comments regarding the Olson twins a few years ago: it's not edgy, it's pathetic, and you're washed up.
bobbiemcgee
03-07-2011, 02:35 PM
Some people go to extremes to make themselves seem relevant. They aren't.
blobfan
03-07-2011, 03:25 PM
I couldn't pick a horse in this race if you put a gun to my head. On the one hand you can't turn your family into media personalities and rightfully complain about it. Bristol is has inarguably turned herself into a media figure with her DWTS appearance, commercials, and public speaking. Isn't Willow the one that famously blasted detractors on an open Facebook page? Talk about declaring yourself fair game.
On the other side, it's Kathy Griffin, insult comic and media whore extraordinaire.
Blueblob4life
03-07-2011, 04:22 PM
I couldn't pick a horse in this race if you put a gun to my head. On the one hand you can't turn your family into media personalities and rightfully complain about it. Bristol is has inarguably turned herself into a media figure with her DWTS appearance, commercials, and public speaking. Isn't Willow the one that famously blasted detractors on an open Facebook page? Talk about declaring yourself fair game.
On the other side, it's Kathy Griffin, insult comic and media whore extraordinaire.
I'm with you on this, however (and I can't believe I'm about to admit this) I'm leaning towards agreeing with the Palin camp on this one.
Shame on Sarah for basically whoring out her family for the media, you say "open season" when that happens. BUT, telling people that a 16-year-old is your next target? Really? Especially after you make fun of her sister's weight?
I'll be the first to admit, my extended family is f-in crazy and dysfunctional in many ways, but it's my exclusive right to make fun of them and criticize them. Attack me all you want to, I don't give a damn, but leave my family out of it.
boozehound
03-07-2011, 04:22 PM
I couldn't pick a horse in this race if you put a gun to my head. On the one hand you can't turn your family into media personalities and rightfully complain about it. Bristol is has inarguably turned herself into a media figure with her DWTS appearance, commercials, and public speaking. Isn't Willow the one that famously blasted detractors on an open Facebook page? Talk about declaring yourself fair game.
On the other side, it's Kathy Griffin, insult comic and media whore extraordinaire.
I don't like Sarah Palin's media whoring at all either, but I have more of an issue with targeting or threatening people's high school aged children than I do with somebody turning their family into media personalities for their own financial gain. Willow is 16 years old. Not fair game.
I would also argue that making fun of anyone's appearance when you are as ugly as Kathy Griffin is not a great strategy.
I do agree that a steel cage grudge match with no survivors would possibly be the best outcome for the world though.
blobfan
03-07-2011, 04:34 PM
I'm with you on this, however (and I can't believe I'm about to admit this) I'm leaning towards agreeing with the Palin camp on this one.
Shame on Sarah for basically whoring out her family for the media, you say "open season" when that happens. BUT, telling people that a 16-year-old is your next target? Really? Especially after you make fun of her sister's weight?I'll be the first to admit, my extended family is f-in crazy and dysfunctional in many ways, but it's my exclusive right to make fun of them and criticize them. Attack me all you want to, I don't give a damn, but leave my family out of it.
Except it's not just anyone saying this, it's Kathy Griffin! It's very easy to explain to a 16 year old why she should not take Griffin seriously. If it were random media talking heads, I'd have to defend the 16 year old. But Palin should have ignored this or said her daughter is smart enough not to worry about jibes from an irrelevant loud-mouth. Palin should not have taken the bait.
boozehound
03-07-2011, 04:45 PM
Except it's not just anyone saying this, it's Kathy Griffin! It's very easy to explain to a 16 year old why she should not take Griffin seriously. If it were random media talking heads, I'd have to defend the 16 year old. But Palin should have ignored this or said her daughter is smart enough not to worry about jibes from an irrelevant loud-mouth. Palin should not have taken the bait.
You definitely can make the argument that Palin shouldn't have taken the bait. This is the most publicity Kathy Griffin has gotten in some time. I would expect her to continue to level insults at children in an effort to resurrect her stalling career.
BTW... does anybody else think that Kathy Griffin looks like the result of an unholy union between Carrot Top and Andy Dick?
Fred Garvin 2.0
03-07-2011, 05:36 PM
You definitely can make the argument that Palin shouldn't have taken the bait. This is the most publicity Kathy Griffin has gotten in some time. I would expect her to continue to level insults at children in an effort to resurrect her stalling career.
BTW... does anybody else think that Kathy Griffin looks like the result of an unholy union between Carrot Top and Andy Dick?
It was even funnier the first time someone on here pointed that out.
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It was even funnier the first time someone on here pointed that out.
Yes, I agree that a second version of something is never as funny as the first.
boozehound
03-07-2011, 06:53 PM
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It was even funnier the first time someone on here pointed that out.
Yes, I agree that a second version of something is never as funny as the first.
I didn't realize that had been pointed out before on here. I wonder if that influenced my comment or if the resemblence is that uncanny?
Out of curiosity I did a search and couldn't find a previous reference on this board so I will claim credit for this comparison until proven wrong!
Mrs. Garrett
03-07-2011, 11:48 PM
How about we just ignore both Palin & Griffin and hopefully they will just go away.
LadyMuskie
03-07-2011, 11:52 PM
How about we just ignore both Palin & Griffin and hopefully they will just go away.
Agree. If only wishing made it so.
Blueblob4life
03-08-2011, 12:33 AM
How about we just ignore both Palin & Griffin and hopefully they will just go away.
Agree. If only wishing made it so.
You two stole my next replies lol. Reps
Kahns Krazy
03-08-2011, 10:15 AM
From the Kathy Griffin Comes to Cincinnati thread. These are, in fact, back to back posts.
Is that Andy Dick in drag?
See also
http://www.rock107.ca/morningshow/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/carrot-top-after.jpg
http://www.thumperscorner.com/discus/messages/36043/38055.jpg
I didn't realize that had been pointed out before on here. I wonder if that influenced my comment or if the resemblence is that uncanny?
Out of curiosity I did a search and couldn't find a previous reference on this board so I will claim credit for this comparison until proven wrong!
boozehound
03-08-2011, 10:33 AM
From the Kathy Griffin Comes to Cincinnati thread. These are, in fact, back to back posts.
I stand corrected, and relinquish my claim to said comparison.
I also apparently am not great at using the search function...
Snipe
03-08-2011, 01:00 PM
I keep reading about people posting about how we wished we could ingore Palin. Apparently the irony of posting about Palin is lost on them. Search this board for Palin posts and you will find 500+ of them, most of them not complimentary. Palin Derangment Syndrome in action. I like bringing up Sarah Palin just to see who comes unhinged. It is way too easy to push that button.
And really she is a genius. Not only was she a successful Governor of Alaska who fought her own party and the oil interests and started one of the largest infrastructre projects in American history, she has also created her own media empire. She has published Op Eds and written books and even has a TV show. She has probably made over 20 million dollars off of this, and yet the whole media enterprise still awaits her next tweet or facebook update. She is playing the very liberal media that hate her to her advantage, and they just can't stop covering her.
Does it surprise me that liberals attack her, her family or her underage daughter? No, they did that from the begining of the battle. She has turned it around though and made the most out of it, and they more they attack her 16 year old daughter the more people will want to defend her. And Willow Palin is a beautiful young woman. When she comes of age she could be a model and cash in too.
I love the thought that people think that Palin deserves some of these attacks on her daughters because she used them as "props" in her campaign. Barrack Obama has two beautiful daughters. How do I know that? I even know their names! Sasha and Malia (sp?) and I didn't have to look that up. Imagine if Conservatives were going after Sasha and Malia.
blobfan
03-08-2011, 01:19 PM
...I love the thought that people think that Palin deserves some of these attacks on her daughters because she used them as "props" in her campaign. Barrack Obama has two beautiful daughters. How do I know that? I even know their names! Sasha and Malia (sp?) and I didn't have to look that up. Imagine if Conservatives were going after Sasha and Malia.
Snipe, that isn't a fair comparison. The Obama kids only appear in public at official functions and general by their parents' sides. The eldest Palin girls are independent actors. It's hard to have sympathy with mama bear defending her cubs when she keeps letting them run out of the cave.
JimmyTwoTimes37
03-08-2011, 01:22 PM
And really she is a genius. Not only was she a successful Governor of Alaska who fought her own party and the oil interests and started one of the largest infrastructre projects in American history, she has also created her own media empire.
I agree that she is a genius when it comes to her brand and making money. She knows exactly what to say and do to turn the media and liberals head's around. Do not agree she was a "successful governor" by any means. Leaving the state in massive debt before quitting midway through to make money is not my definition of success
Snipe
03-08-2011, 06:22 PM
Snipe, that isn't a fair comparison. The Obama kids only appear in public at official functions and general by their parents' sides. The eldest Palin girls are independent actors. It's hard to have sympathy with mama bear defending her cubs when she keeps letting them run out of the cave.
A 16 year old girl is an independent actor? And they did attack her family from the get go. It wasn't like they waited until one of them was on Dancing with the Stars. Her family was attacked during the Presidential campaign.
DC Muskie
03-08-2011, 06:37 PM
Sarah Palin is a quitter and a failed reality show character.
However, Kathy Griffin is about as funny as the fart I just passed. Actually that fart was funnier than Kathy Griffin. She needs to leave Palin and her kids alone.
bobbiemcgee
03-08-2011, 06:45 PM
She's the Paris Hilton of Politics without the rap sheet. Famous cuz she's pretty and turned it into a huge moneymaking machine. She's gets an insane amount of money to show up somewhere, blow smoke and shoot bears.. More power to her.
Snipe
03-11-2011, 01:05 AM
She's the Paris Hilton of Politics without the rap sheet. Famous cuz she's pretty and turned it into a huge moneymaking machine. She's gets an insane amount of money to show up somewhere, blow smoke and shoot bears.. More power to her.
Paris Hilton leaks porno tapes of herself like other aspiring whores. Actual porno tapes. That is her claim to fame. I would be willing to bet that Paris Hilton is a liberal and not a conservative too. Sarah Palin was a Mayor, Governor, and Vice Presidential Candidate. She has written best selling books and Op-Eds in papers. You are a fool. Paris Hilton?
Here is one Op-Ed that was in the Washington Post:
The 'Cap And Tax' Dead End (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/13/AR2009071302852.html)
Some people give that Op-Ed credit for killing the Cap and Trade bill on arrival in the Senate. After that the House didn't want to pass things and take tough votes unless they knew the Senate could play. Just that one Op-Ed had a huge impact in some estimations. When she is talking about energy issues she knows what she is talking about. She was Governor of an oil producing state and a great deal of her political capital came from the shrewd acumen in which she negotiated (and exposed the corruption) of the oil industry in Alaska.
People continue to denigrate and underestimate Sarah Palin. She isn't my choice or my favorite. The way she gets attacked makes me want to defend her anyway. You think she is famous because she is pretty. I wonder if BobbieMcGee or DC Muskie think they could Govern Alaska with an 80% approval rating. I wonder if you guys would be willing to expose corruption in your own party and fight the moneyed oil interests, or negotiate one of the biggest infrastructure projects in Alaskan or American history.
Before the media attacks and the frivolous lawsuits that gave her the impetus to give the job up, she was the most popular Governor in the United States. Had she not had the courage to run for Vice President everything would have been fine. Once she was in the cross-hairs though it was never ending.
She isn't my pick for President. I like her though and I have respect for her. They did everything that they could do to destroy her and she has survived and thrived. Now someone tells me she is Paris Hilton. Paris Hilton is a whore. How in your right mind is it fair to say that? That is stupid and if you look at the facts it might even become apparent to you.
Why don't you smart guys who could easily run a State like Alaska with it billion dollar budgets and infrastructure programs turn your insightful and acerbic wit on Obama? If she had no real experience and is just pretty, what the hell was the State Senator from Illinois doing running for President? That guy never ran anything but a campaign. Palin ran a state in an executive position. If I had to pick she wouldn't be our President. But if I had to pick he wouldn't either, and she would get there before he did if you look at the stat sheet. You want to call her an idiot, maybe she needs his teleprompter. That guy is still searching for his first clue. You've been had.
DC Muskie
03-11-2011, 07:24 AM
I have to ask Snipe, do you think Palin gets elected again?
You keep bringing up how Obama never ran anything, and yet he was elected President of the United States. Obviously the majority of people thought that was enough. Despite you trumpeting her resume, she wasn't elected. Her current favorable ratings are not good. This despite her sterling record, she is still not the top pick for a possible GOP nomination.
I'm not sure how I would do as governor as Alaska. I do know that I probably wouldn't have quit. It's hard to be a leader when you claim outside forces prevent you from being a leader. I thought that speech she gave when she did quit was brilliant, because some people actually still respect her for doing it. 80% approval rating, numerous good deeds, and somehow, she quit. Wonder how she would do on a national stage when terrorists give out frivolous attacks on her.
Why did she get out? Oh that's right she wasn't able to fight the media. She could fight corruption and run Alaska in such a fantastic manner, but she couldn't handle the media. That's amazing and sad at the same time. The media brought her down. Not corrupting, bad people of her own party. The media. An industry that she quickly joined after she quit. She reminds me a little of Bobby Knight in that regard. Always hated the media, but when he retired, what did he do? Joined the media. Can't beat 'em join 'em I guess.
So she quit. To become a reality show star. Her show began with 5 million viewers, by the end she had about half of that. Maybe the media is to blame for that happening.
But really will she ever get elected again? I'm not sure the media will allow what Snipe knows about her incredible record as governor be known.
boozehound
03-11-2011, 08:11 AM
Snipe, you make a some good points. Why the comparison to Obama though? It seems to me as though you are assuming that just because somebody doesn't like Sarah Palin that they like Obama. Can't we dislike both for different reasons?
I think that DC also has some good points regarding Sarah Palin's criticism of, and subsequent joining of, the media upon quitting her post as Governor of Alaska.
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