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Masterofreality
02-12-2011, 02:32 PM
Holy Gawd. WTF am I watching vs Temple?

The Cryers have to be the most undisciplined team I have ever seen.

A) Play like their pants are on fire like whoever can reach midcourt quicker gets points.
B) Drive into the lane with no idea what to do next (usually right into a shot block)
C) Allow the fake Chris Wright to take jump shots. Smart, since he only shoots 60% standing still from 15 feet away.
D) Run in circles around the key then throw the ball away.

I've got an idea. Have udump play games with no basketball. Just run wild all over the court as fast as they can and grab a bunch of rims. They could also jump around a lot for variety.

All the inbreds sitting in the cesspool could then boo the officials for calling violations everytime a Cryer player ran outside of the lines.

We'd just call the game Basket-case.

DoubleD86
02-12-2011, 02:38 PM
Holy Gawd. WTF am I watching vs Temple?

The Cryers have to be the most undisciplined team I have ever seen.

A) Play like their pants are on fire like whoever can reach midcourt quicker gets points.
B) Drive into the lane with no idea what to do next (usually right into a shot block)
C) Allow the fake Chris Wright to take jump shots. Smart, since he only shoots 60% standing still from 15 feet away.
D) Run in circles around the key then throw the ball away.

I've got an idea. Have udump play games with no basketball. Just run wild all over the court as fast as they can and grab a bunch of rims. They could also jump around a lot for variety.

All the inbreds sitting in the cesspool could then boo the officials for calling violations everytime a Cryer player ran outside of the lines.

We'd just call the game Basket-case.

I am not usually one who comes on here and bashes UD.

However, this game is bad. UD looks like they have completely thrown in the towel. Their body language is poor, their effort is poor, and their play is poor. Even when UD was imploding in the past, they still usually played with effort and intensity. Today they just look like they are going through the motions.

Oh, and they are currently down 13 at home against a Temple team WITHOUT Lavoy Allen.

XUOWNSUC
02-12-2011, 03:04 PM
That game was terrible - I watched the last 10 minutes of the 1st half and couldn't watch anymore. ud players were taking stupid shots - I'm not sure if they ran an offensive play. The dump was very quiet. But you know they will play out of their heads against us. If I were Gregory (thankfully I'm not) I would make every ud player wear blue tinted glasses. That way, it might look like they are playing against Xavier and they might play better.

They may actually have to play on the ROAD in the first round of the A-10 tourney.

JAX 3758
02-12-2011, 03:29 PM
Holy Gawd. WTF am I watching vs Temple?

The Cryers have to be the most undisciplined team I have ever seen.

A) Play like their pants are on fire like whoever can reach midcourt quicker gets points.
B) Drive into the lane with no idea what to do next (usually right into a shot block)
C) Allow the fake Chris Wright to take jump shots. Smart, since he only shoots 60% standing still from 15 feet away.
D) Run in circles around the key then throw the ball away.

I've got an idea. Have udump play games with no basketball. Just run wild all over the court as fast as they can and grab a bunch of rims. They could also jump around a lot for variety.

All the inbreds sitting in the cesspool could then boo the officials for calling violations everytime a Cryer player ran outside of the lines.

We'd just call the game Basket-case.

I cannot believe how bad UD looked. My roommates and I were watching and we kept talking about how they really do nothing well....

They cannot make a shot outside 9 ft.

Their offense literally revolves around 3-2 advantages on the fast break (which most of the time looks out of control) and then getting put backs on the offensive glass. That. is. it.

5-6 in the A-10? really? REALLY?

As bad as things looked in December for us, most of us still EXPECTED a strong finish in the A-10 conference season.

I mean seriously...could you ever see a Xavier team under Coach Mack falling to 5-6 in the A-10? My answer is quick and easy: NEVER

West is Best
02-12-2011, 05:03 PM
It amazes me that they are still playing 11 deep this late in the year... Around the NCAA, most teams are using a pretty limited rotation this time of year. Xavier uses 7, Temple basically used 6, same with Ohio State and Kentucky.

I don't get to see their games (Dayton's tv exposure is pretty much limited to the Xavier game out here), but it's like Gregory is still deciding on his rotations 3/4ths of the way through the season. Is it really that hard to figure out?

Juice
02-12-2011, 05:07 PM
It amazes me that they are still playing 11 deep this late in the year... Around the NCAA most teams are using a pretty limited rotation this time of year. Xavier uses 7, Temple basically used 6, same with Ohio State and Kentucky.

I don't get to see their games (Dayton's tv exposure is pretty much limited to the Xavier game out here), but it's like Gregory is still deciding on his rotations 3/4ths of the way through the season. Is it really that hard to figure out?

It sort of made sense for them to do that last year because there team was deeper. But it makes absolutely no sense this year.

xudash
02-12-2011, 05:16 PM
Sorry, but I love it.

I love BG.

I love the fact that he could be there contractually for 7 more years.

I love that that fan base's false sense of worth is getting beat out of them, game by game.

Normally, you want key conference mates to be good to elevate the competitiveness of the league. So, yes, I am being a hypocrite on this one. In this case, thanks to people like Swampy Waters and Muddy Meadows and some of the other idiots that project UD's past to the present in a feeble attempt to establish credibility, let them continue in helter-skelter mode.

Blue Blooded-05
02-12-2011, 06:47 PM
Hard to believe UD's RPI was a still very respectable 55 coming into today. For comparison, Georgia was 45 and our round 1 opponent last year finished the season with a RPI of 78.


I'm no college b-ball coach... but it sure seems like teams play UD the exact same way in the first 5 minutes as they do the last 5 minutes. UD is like your buddy that ALWAYS goes rock in paper/rock/scissors -- You know all you gotta do is throw paper. You know it really shouldn't be this easy and if he ever once changes it up and throws scissors you're totally screwed... yet, the dumbass keeps throwing rock!!

I honestly cannot think of another way to explain why UD has so much trouble in-conference. Out of conference teams (who don't know they're throwing rock) always seem to struggle against them-- NIT last year, WVU the year before that, Louisville the year before that.

kyxu
02-12-2011, 06:58 PM
For anyone who doesn't already, I strongly recommend checking out UD's blog the Blackburn Review. It's a very good read (normally after I check out Cheese's Dana&Victory).

Today, they had a great post up about Brian Gregory and his (I would say) shocking comments in today's DDN...

http://www.blackburnreview.com/main/2011/2/13/the-perception-gap.html#comments

IVANHOE
02-12-2011, 07:05 PM
I am sure Swampy will find some weird twisted way to make himself and the cryers feel better. All is good. What will the title of his article be?

"high eXpectations"
"aXe gregory"
"eXpect CBI"


Maybe he will liken Dayton to Michigan State or Gonzaga again. Swampy "hey guys its cool, all the other good teams likes us are having a down year too"

Masterofreality
02-12-2011, 07:13 PM
http://www.blackburnreview.com/storage/newlogo.jpg?__

Courtesy: Blackburn Review

xudash
02-12-2011, 07:14 PM
I am sure Swampy will find some weird twisted way to make himself and the cryers feel better. All is good. What will the title of his article be?

"high eXpectations"
"aXe gregory"
"eXpect CBI"


Maybe he will liken Dayton to Michigan State or Gonzaga again. Swampy "hey guys its cool, all the other good teams likes us are having a down year too"

My guess he'll focus in on the CBI tournament and how it is growing in stature in certain regions of the country, such as North Dayton, South Dayton, East Dayton and West Dayton.

Masterofreality
02-12-2011, 07:18 PM
Out of conference teams (who don't know they're throwing rock) always seem to struggle against them-- NIT last year, WVU the year before that, Louisville the year before that.

Except for SucKS who doubled the score, East Tennessee State who beat them, and Savannah State who almost beat them.

If I was Ole Miss, I'd be embarrassed.

GuyFawkes38
02-12-2011, 07:51 PM
What really struck me about today's UD game is how Chris Johnson is regressing. I thought he was going to be a top 5 Atlantic10 player. Now he disappears from the offense for long stretches of play.

via Pomeroy, Chris Wright has an offensive rating of 97. Chris Johnson has a 122 offensive rating. Chris Johnson is not getting the ball enough. That's a coaching issue.

Blue Blooded-05
02-12-2011, 08:18 PM
Except for SucKS who doubled the score, East Tennessee State who beat them, and Savannah State who almost beat them.

If I was Ole Miss, I'd be embarrassed.

Touché. I should have written "generally" instead of "always"... Nevertheless, they have enough quality OOC wins the past couple years to make you scratch your head when they finish .500 in a conference that sends, at most, 3 teams to The Dance.

We all laugh at their rediculous false sense of superiority coming into (or early in) the season.... Think about it, whether we think it's justified or not, UD fans always thump their chests due to an OOC victory... Yet, sure as the sun rises, they go on to crap themselves in-conference.

This HAS to point to a familiarity issue, doesn't it?

Cheesehead
02-12-2011, 08:36 PM
Let's not forget, UD also craps themselves in the NCAA tourney (ancient history not included).

That is, when they make the real tourney.

Masterofreality
02-12-2011, 08:58 PM
Touché. I should have written "generally" instead of "always"... Nevertheless, they have enough quality OOC wins the past couple years to make you scratch your head when they finish .500 in a conference that sends, at most, 3 teams to The Dance.

We all laugh at their rediculous false sense of superiority coming into (or early in) the season.... Think about it, whether we think it's justified or not, UD fans always thump their chests due to an OOC victory... Yet, sure as the sun rises, they go on to crap themselves in-conference.

This HAS to point to a familiarity issue, doesn't it?

Actually, Blue, it does- because their schemes are so simplistic, and their stuff is so one-on-one dependent that if you scout them a couple of times, you've got 'em figured out.
Early in the season, teams haven't seen the individual guys enough to get reads on them- like if a guy can only go left, or whether he has a "high handle". You might get away with that stuff for the first few games, but it will be found out.

Gregory cannot make adjustments- either in game or in season. If his guys are shooting lights out, or the other team didn't come to play, they'll win. But forget the Midget out-scheming anybody.

whitesox
02-12-2011, 09:48 PM
What really struck me about today's UD game is how Chris Johnson is regressing. I thought he was going to be a top 5 Atlantic10 player. Now he disappears from the offense for long stretches of play.

via Pomeroy, Chris Wright has an offensive rating of 97. Chris Johnson has a 122 offensive rating. Chris Johnson is not getting the ball enough. That's a coaching issue.

That's exactly what I was thinking. He is a bad offensive player, yet he is using 27% of their possessions! He takes a greater percentage of their shots than Holloway takes of ours. That is just killer.

That being said, they haven't a decent offensive team in a while. What has really killed them this year is how badly they have regressed on defense. Last year they were 84th in offense but 9th in defense (Pomeroy ratings). This year Black Hole Wright has led them to fall back to 124th in offense, but they have also fallen all the way down to 92nd in defense. That is just a thoroughly mediocre team.

They've gone from an elite defensive team that struggled to score to an even worse offensive team that struggles on defense.

Nigel Tufnel
02-12-2011, 09:51 PM
Not trying to be a downer, but UD's play is just going to make it all the more annoying when they shoot 70% from the floor against X in a couple of weeks. I'll likely bet against UD the rest of the season (they screwed me a couple of times this year), except the X game. I'm counting on them looking like world beaters against X...it's going to be really obnoxious.

GuyFawkes38
02-12-2011, 09:56 PM
Not trying to be a downer, but UD's play is just going to make it all the more annoying when they shoot 70% from the floor against X in a couple of weeks. I'll likely bet against UD the rest of the season (they screwed me a couple of times this year), except the X game. I'm counting on them looking like world beaters against X...it's going to be really obnoxious.

They do match up well against us. They have 2 solid wing players. We are a bit weak on the wing. It wouldn't shock me if we lost.

whitesox
02-12-2011, 10:08 PM
For anyone who doesn't already, I strongly recommend checking out UD's blog the Blackburn Review. It's a very good read (normally after I check out Cheese's Dana&Victory).

Today, they had a great post up about Brian Gregory and his (I would say) shocking comments in today's DDN...

http://www.blackburnreview.com/main/2011/2/13/the-perception-gap.html#comments

One of the comments on that article:
"Dayton is St. Weldy with more fans."

Hilarious. And true.

Nigel Tufnel
02-12-2011, 10:15 PM
They do match up well against us. They have 2 solid wing players. We are a bit weak on the wing. It wouldn't shock me if we lost.

Nothing I've seen of late would lead me to believe they have 2 solid wing players. In a couple of weeks, they will likely have 2 solid looking wing players against X.

Don't think for a second I'm trying to make any type of excuses, its just what I honestly see happening.

GuyFawkes38
02-12-2011, 10:21 PM
Their wing players are better than ours.

I'm not trying to make and excuse. I just think they have matched up well against us for the past couple years because they have long, physical wing players.

The past couple years we squeazed out victories at home. And last year we were crushed by UD in Dayton.

Nigel Tufnel
02-12-2011, 10:26 PM
Their wing players are better than ours.

I'm not trying to make and excuse. I just think they have matched up well against us for the past couple years because they have long, physical wing players.

The past couple years we squeazed out victories at home. And last year we were crushed by UD in Dayton.

Sorry if you misunderstood. I certainly don't think you're trying to make excuses either. I just find it annoying that, with all their struggles, they will play a perfect game against X in a couple of weeks. Hell, I haven't seen them play this year nearly as well as they played @ X a few weeks ago.

Hope I'm wrong...guess I shouldn't even be thinking about the UD game...for some reason though, with all their struggles being discussed, I just can't get it out of my mind that they'll play out of their minds against X.

Oh well, BEAT THE DUKES!!

kyxu
02-12-2011, 10:38 PM
Not trying to be a downer, but UD's play is just going to make it all the more annoying when they shoot 70% from the floor against X in a couple of weeks. I'll likely bet against UD the rest of the season (they screwed me a couple of times this year), except the X game. I'm counting on them looking like world beaters against X...it's going to be really obnoxious.

Absolutely agree. No matter how bad they may look now, it will be a war there in a couple weeks and will be a very close game. We damn near lost to them at our place early this season.

Masterofreality
02-13-2011, 10:46 AM
Absolutely agree. No matter how bad they may look now, it will be a war there in a couple weeks and will be a very close game. We damn near lost to them at our place early this season.

True, but it was because they shot some of their best percentages of the year. Even though they did that though, they still lost.

That being said, I'm fully expecting them to play a perfect game against us up there, because that is what they do- suck against everybody else and stand on their heads against XU.

DC Muskie
02-13-2011, 09:05 PM
They only thing Dayton seems to do well is exchanging those red towels to guys coming in and out of games.

Muskie1000
02-14-2011, 08:00 AM
That to me is the most annoying thing about that team. Say what you will about UC, Temple, etc... those teams play pretty much up to par every time. Then you get a sub-par Dayton team who will play like they could win the National Championship against us. Ticks me off every time and this year it will be worse because they have absolutely nothing else to play for.