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BlueGuy

12-11-2010, 12:37 PM

Found this article on Sports by Brooks this morning.... Didn't see anything about it yet here.

Bobinski cantidate in KU AD search (http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/another-day-another-candidate-in-ku-ad-search-29326)

Muskie

12-11-2010, 01:31 PM

We talked about this previously when it came up. I was under the impression that the UK AD was high on KU's list. Looks like they are scaring their tier 1 candidates off?

Kahns Krazy

12-11-2010, 01:46 PM

I hope we keep Bobo. I think he's been critical to our continued success over the last 15 years.

GuyFawkes38

12-11-2010, 04:46 PM

I think he's done a really good job here. I'd give him a C+ or B-.

vee4xu

12-11-2010, 04:58 PM

I think he's done a really good job here. I'd give him a C+ or B-.

This has to be a deliberate attempt to stir the crap up. Which, if so, is certainly your strong suit. Not even you would believe what you typed above.

XU 87

12-11-2010, 06:10 PM

The article says the Kansas job pays $750,000 per year. What does Xavier pay? I suspect that X isn't even close.

vee4xu

12-11-2010, 06:20 PM

I hear you 87. The question may become how much is Mack making and does he want to be an AD. Wow, $750K!! Makes me wonder what Gene Smith is knocking down at tOSU.

XU 87

12-11-2010, 06:26 PM

I hear you 87. The question may become how much is Mack making and does he want to be an AD. Wow, $750K!! Makes me wonder what Gene Smith is knocking down at tOSU.

I think I just read something that said Smith is in excess of $1 million and possibly around $2 million.

Snipe

12-11-2010, 06:54 PM

tOSU’s atheletic budget is in excess of $120 million dollars a year.

That is over 10 million every month on average or 2.3 million every week.

120 million year is a daily average of 328,767.12 every day. They spend more than that.

So what is an extra $750k to them, that is 2.3 days spending.

The further we get away from it the less I could ever fault Thad flying around in the private jet like some corporate CEO. They throw tons of money at you and all your meals are free anyway. I remember Prosser used to say a few nice words about Gilkey windows and all the windows of his house were paid for. He does a little radio spot for Mike Albert leasing and here is the new jag. He joked that he didn’t even know what all the buttons are for. It is funny that once you finally make money everyone wants to comp you on everything and you can’t even spend it. I can only imagine what Thad and Sean Miller get at big state schools. The money is mind boggling.

Yeah coaches leave for the money, but money is a pretty damn good reason.

GuyFawkes38

12-11-2010, 07:43 PM

This has to be a deliberate attempt to stir the crap up. Which, if so, is certainly your strong suit. Not even you would believe what you typed above.

Grade inflation is a big problem. I'm just giving an honest grade (which itself is a good grade. When did a C+ become bad).

X-band '01

12-11-2010, 09:16 PM

This has to be a deliberate attempt to stir the crap up. Which, if so, is certainly your strong suit. Not even you would believe what you typed above.

Guy is just downplaying Bobinski in case the Kansas brass is reading the board. It's a smart ploy if you ask me.

wkrq59

12-12-2010, 04:14 AM

Check the story more closely. It's the old "reliable source" bit. Not saying it couldn't be true, but Kansas just doesn't seem like a good fit for Mike. But as Pete used to say, "never say never.":D

Masterofreality

12-12-2010, 11:15 AM

Check the story more closely. It's the old "reliable source" bit. Not saying it couldn't be true, but Kansas just doesn't seem like a good fit for Mike. But as Pete used to say, "never say never.":D

Sounds to me, as Q alludes, that it's also the old "we want the guy from Tulsa, but since he's taking his time, let's just throw another name out there to put some heat on him to move." leverage strategy.

XU 87

12-12-2010, 11:28 AM

Check the story more closely. It's the old "reliable source" bit. Not saying it couldn't be true, but Kansas just doesn't seem like a good fit for Mike. But as Pete used to say, "never say never.":D

If TCU was a good fit for Bobinski, then I would think Kansas, and the $750,000 salary, would be too.

StanleyOwnsYou

12-12-2010, 01:18 PM

Now it appears Brad Bates of Miami is getting consideration too, but we'll see

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/firstup/2010/12/12/kansas-considers-two-local-ads/

xeus

12-12-2010, 02:36 PM

The article says the Kansas job pays $750,000 per year. What does Xavier pay? I suspect that X isn't even close.

Xavier's 2009 Form 990 (the most recent, which reflects the 2008 tax year) reports Bobinski's compensation as $237,000.

Kahns Krazy

12-12-2010, 05:41 PM

Xavier's 2009 Form 990 (the most recent, which reflects the 2008 tax year) reports Bobinski's compensation as $237,000.

Well, that's close to $750k. I doubt Mike will jump ship for a 216% raise.

Masterofreality

12-12-2010, 06:34 PM

I sure don't want to lose Bobo.

But realistically, it would be a hard sell to all of the boosters to hire an AD who did not have experience running an Athletic Department without football.

Football is what drives the train at all Big Six Conferences and there is a need for someone who has had to deal with all of the accompanying crap. While Bobo was at Akron, that is nothing like the Big 12.

X-band '01

12-12-2010, 06:40 PM

Besides the one year that BF Mangino took Kansas to the Orange Bowl, Kansas football is a wasteland. I guarantee they'll be more concerned about their basketball program at this point.

Other sports have also prospered of late at Xavier - men's golf, baseball, men's soccer, and volleyball have all had NCAA appearances in the past 2-3 years. And he's also overseen women's basketball develop into a Final 4 contender the last 2 seasons as well.

Snipe

12-12-2010, 07:32 PM

Xavier's 2009 Form 990 (the most recent, which reflects the 2008 tax year) reports Bobinski's compensation as $237,000.

Well, that's close to $750k. I doubt Mike will jump ship for a 216% raise.

I would all be for giving Bobinski a nice raise. It isn't my money. That makes it a lot easier for me to spend.

We can never compete with the big boys when it comes to money. We can hype the Xavier Family. We can talk of the unique small town feel inside a big city which is the Xavier community. And Bobinski has as much job security as a man in his profession can have. He is also professionally and publicly respected, and a member of the NCAA Selection Committee. The local media likes him, and that means something where you live if you are going to be in the local media. Given the cost of living in Cincinnati, $237,000 makes you a wealthy man if you have that stream coming in every year. He could keep working here for a long time.

Then you have things like family and kids. I don't know his personal situation but this is a nice place to have a family. From his Xavier bio his youngest child is already in college and his oldest has already graduated, so the raising part of raising a family might not appeal as much anymore. Cincinnati isn't a college town which would limit the options of your wife. They can have their friends and their lives all to themselves. Cincinnati has a lot going for it. Then again, several million dollars have things going for them too, and the wife might like that lifestyle if she likes exotic vacations, vacation homes or just buying lots of cool stuff.

I say bump the man's pay. We can't let him be taken without a counter offer. Maybe we can't match them but we can make it harder for him to leave.

All that said I hope he gets a huge contract if he leaves us. We have some big money guys in college sports and some programs seem able to spend anything to get the best of the best. If someone offered him a million a year and gave him a five year contract I would be happy for him about his situation. I would miss him and be bitter for awhile but that is just the emotional side of losing such an important cog in the Xavier machine. I have met Bobinski and like the rest of you I have heard him in interviews and follow his/our progress intensely. The man is sharp as a tack. He is the best of the best and you can't go wrong with that hire. The one obvious drawback for the critic would be that we don't have a football program, and big programs might want football experience.

You simply can't do as well as he has done without attracting the attention and respect of the big boys. I am certain that in the professional circle of ADs he is widely respected and liked by his peers. What I perhaps like the most though is that not only is he good at what he does but he is an eminently likeable man. He exudes class, confidence as well as intelligence. In his early career he was a numbers man, and you know he is always watching the bottom line. He is a perfect representative for our University and the true “man behind the curtain”. Everything runs smoothly at Xavier University. Everything seems to come off without a hitch. That isn’t the natural order of things everywhere, it happens because we have a team of people who care. They bust their ass and pay attention to detail. Michael Bobinski is a huge part of that. Father Michael J. Graham, S.J. is a big part of that too.

Losing Michael Bobinski would be a tragedy and I would mourn his departure for sure. I don’t want to let him go without a fight. I wouldn’t mind if the big pockets associated with the programs dug deep to help us fight, but these are difficult times. I would be more afraid of losing Bobinski that I was afraid of losing Sean Miller, Thad Matta or Skip Prosser. It would be a blow to the program. The man is a star. The problem is that other people around the nation can see that too, and some of those people have large piles of green paper that they are dying to unload on someone.

Backyard Champ

12-12-2010, 07:38 PM

Grade inflation is a big problem. I'm just giving an honest grade (which itself is a good grade. When did a C+ become bad).

Just a quick question then. If you think he has done a C+ job, then what in your opinion could he have improved upon in order to get a better grade?

Xman95

12-12-2010, 07:52 PM

People get so upset about the Haves and the Have Nots in pro sports (primarily baseball where there is no cap), but it never seems to be an issue in college athletics. Maybe it's time to start pushing for a cap on what NCAA AD's, coaches, etc. can make. How will places like Duquesne, Cleveland State, Fordham, etc. ever be able to compete with Kentucky, North Carolina, Florida and places like that?

I mention this primarily as a joke, but maybe there really is something that could be done. It's likely that nothing will ever happen, especially after the recent decision that shows the NCAA has no problem with parents of athletes getting paid (so why would they be concerned with actual employees?). But maybe there is a way to level the playing field at least a little bit for schools that just don't have an endless supply of money.

Xman95

12-12-2010, 07:55 PM

Makes me wonder what Gene Smith is knocking down at tOSU.

Probably not much more than the football players.

GuyFawkes38

12-13-2010, 12:41 AM

Just a quick question then. If you think he has done a C+ job, then what in your opinion could he have improved upon in order to get a better grade?

I think he's incredible.

But that being said, didn't Thad and Sean play roles in picking the next coaches. IMHO, the program has a lot of momentum to it. I think it's off when people argue that Bobinski is more important than the bball head coach. A big raise for Bobinski might affect our ability to keep Mack or some other coach in the future.

People get so upset about the Haves and the Have Nots in pro sports (primarily baseball where there is no cap), but it never seems to be an issue in college athletics. Maybe it's time to start pushing for a cap on what NCAA AD's, coaches, etc. can make. How will places like Duquesne, Cleveland State, Fordham, etc. ever be able to compete with Kentucky, North Carolina, Florida and places like that?

I mention this primarily as a joke, but maybe there really is something that could be done. It's likely that nothing will ever happen, especially after the recent decision that shows the NCAA has no problem with parents of athletes getting paid (so why would they be concerned with actual employees?). But maybe there is a way to level the playing field at least a little bit for schools that just don't have an endless supply of money.

I recently saw a list of the top revenue athletics programs in the country.

It's interesting how much football schools dominate the list. Duke, UCLA, IU, UNC, etc... don't compete in revenue with football schools.

I find that encouraging. Ohio State and Florida have football funded bball programs. And they've had a lot of success. But in most cases, that doesn't work. You can't just buy a great basketball program.

I guess my bottom line is this: a cap would help level the competition much more on the football side, which is a really expensive sport. It would not help much on the basketball side, where's there's less of a correlation between money spent and success. Therefore, I do not think it's a good idea.

boozehound

12-13-2010, 08:25 AM

I think he's incredible.

But that being said, didn't Thad and Sean play roles in picking the next coaches. IMHO, the program has a lot of momentum to it. I think it's off when people argue that Bobinski is more important than the bball head coach. A big raise for Bobinski might affect our ability to keep Mack or some other coach in the future.

Huh? If incredible is a C+ in your world then what warrants an 'A'?

You are right about one thing: the program does have a lot of momentum to it. If you look back to the years before Bobinski was the AD there was considserably less momentum, though. It's not like he has been the AD for 3 years. He has steered the ship through constant coaching changes and always gotten the right guy.

Tardy Turtle

12-13-2010, 10:07 AM

If XH graded on a curve then GuyFawkes38 would sit squarely on the ass end of the distribution.

A big fat "F" to you, Guy.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3371/guyfawkes001.jpg

sirthought

12-13-2010, 02:03 PM

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/xavier/2010/12/13/bobinski-on-kansas-rumors/

Sorry if this was already posted:

If there were any notions that Mike Bobinski was a candidate for the Kansas athletic director opening, the XU AD silenced them today.

When asked about the Kansas rumors, Bobinski said this: “Unequivacobly untrue. No contact, no interest, no conversation. Nothing. No correspondence of any kind.”

Snipe

12-13-2010, 02:10 PM

That is great news Sirthought. I want to keep him all too myself.

boozehound

12-13-2010, 04:08 PM

That is great news Sirthought. I want to keep him all too myself.

I agree. He has done a lot for Xavier and I want him to stay here until he retires. I am a selfish SOB when it comes to what is best for Xavier Basketball.

Having said that, if he does leave at some point I will wish him nothing but the best in his future endeavors and be thankful for what he did in his years at Xavier.

CinciX12

12-13-2010, 09:46 PM

After our prior history with people denying jobs and taking them, I really like that he said their was 'no contact' more than 'no interest'. I don't recall either of the 2 degenerates denying contact at least. I may be wrong though.

SM#24

12-14-2010, 12:52 PM

DC Muskie

12-14-2010, 01:35 PM

GoMuskies

12-14-2010, 01:40 PM

Juice

12-15-2010, 09:17 AM

Sports by Brooks reports that Kansas is hiring Tulsa's AD

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/kansas-to-name-tulsa-athletic-director-new-ad-29335

Muskie

12-15-2010, 09:31 AM

That is not the hire I bet a lot of KU alum were expecting?

PMI

12-16-2010, 10:47 AM

Looks like Kansas found their guy. Great relief for us but it probably won't be the last time we get anxious.

http://www.ktul.com/Global/story.asp?S=13677482

xumuskies08

12-16-2010, 01:32 PM

Looks like Kansas found their guy. Great relief for us but it probably won't be the last time we get anxious.

http://www.ktul.com/Global/story.asp?S=13677482

No real sources have confirmed anything in regards to that story. Hell, Bobo never even came up here in Lawrence. My dad texted me about it and I was shocked to hear it was being reported in Cincinnati. Last I heard from reliable sources they are looking at the Tulsa guy and the Miami AD (this was on Monday though so it might have changed).

Although I hope I'm wrong about and they already have Cunningham cause from what I've read it sounds like it would be a good hire.

danaandvictory

12-16-2010, 06:44 PM

My personal thought is that Bobinski will be at XU for quite a while. He's not going to leave XU just to make a lateral move, and any of the big-time programs would probably balk at bringing in a guy whose experience is primarily at a school with no football program.

Pete Delkus

12-16-2010, 06:52 PM

“Unequivacobly untrue. No contact, no interest, no conversation. Nothing. No correspondence of any kind.”
Based on these comments, I'm assuming he will be Kansas' AD by next week, and then he can be the new most hated.
MOR, out of curiosty, do you have a nickname for Bobinski ready to go ?

The "Bad News" is always preceded by Van Halen trucks blocking the arena. I don't think the Allen Field House is hosting Diamond Dave and friends, so I think we are OK! Van Halen tours/trucks are like Crows to Xavier basketball. Upon news of a new tour, Father Graham opens up his desk drawer and sharpens the list.

xumuskies08

12-16-2010, 07:07 PM

Welp here you have it...no Cunningham for KU. Miami better watch out now, though I'd much rather have had Cunningham than whoever is running point at Miami.

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/dec/16/bubba-cunningham-signs-extension-stay-tulsa-not-co/?utm_campaign=ljtweet&utm_source=ljtweet&utm_medium=ljtweet

BigMoeMusketeer

01-04-2011, 08:56 AM

My personal thought is that Bobinski will be at XU for quite a while. .

My personal thought is he has tried to get about 5 jobs over the last year and will continue trying. He has done GREAT things for Xavier, to be sure, but if he wants out that bad I wish he'd get one so everyone can move forward. I'm sure all of you can recall a period of your careers when you were actively looking, remember how productive were you at your current spot? Not very.

PMI

01-05-2011, 04:12 PM

My personal thought is he has tried to get about 5 jobs over the last year and will continue trying. He has done GREAT things for Xavier, to be sure, but if he wants out that bad I wish he'd get one so everyone can move forward. I'm sure all of you can recall a period of your careers when you were actively looking, remember how productive were you at your current spot? Not very.

Do you have any evidence to support this? Are you just guessing he's tried to get 5 jobs? Just because his name pops up during these searches doesn't mean he's actively trying to leave, and even if he were, it certainly doesn't mean his productivity at X has suffered. I think to suggest that his efforts at X have declined because he wants to be somewhere else is a totally baseless, bullshit comment, unless you have some kind of proof to support it which I strongly doubt.

xudash

01-05-2011, 04:25 PM