Josh Selby Decision

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

Only out 9 games...You gotta be kidding me

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/11/19/kansas-selby-must-sit-nine-games/

[bobbiemcgee]

and we can't get Martin qualified?

[SixFig]

“I’m happy for Josh and his family that they can put this behind them and so can we,” said KU Interim Athletics Director Sean Lester. “This process had several moving parts, the first one being academics, the second being money. Once that was addressed we and the NCAA moved to the eligibility aspect ...a couple million dollars here and there helps. We knew it would take time, and we appreciate our partnership with the NCAA and our constant communication during this process of pocket greasing.”

[Juice]

If anyone follows Gary Parrish on twitter, it got pretty funny last night. I guess UK fans are pissed and are comparing Selby to Kanter.

[smileyy]

Unless the charity was the "Josh Selby Achievement Fund", there's a pretty big difference between Kanter and Selby.

That said, it's pretty frustrating to see bribery result in the loss of only a few games, whereas a kid with academic problems going to a school with a stellar academic reputation w.r.t. academics loses an entire year.

[smileyy]

There's something sad about college basketball fans arguing about which amateur-who-got-paid should be eligible and which shouldn't.

It's like one guy covered in dog shit and another guy covered in cat shit arguing about which one of them smells better.

[Muskied]

definately the one in cat shit...cuz you can sprinkle that litter on it and make it smell fresh and breezy

[xumuskies08]

Well, I for one am excited to see him play on December 18th against USC (I'll be in the building for sure). KU will be scary good once he gets into the lineup.

[Titanxman04]

I just don't understand where the line is drawn.

I support the NCAA on a lot of decisions. I think that in whole, they act reasonably and studying sport management, I would love to have a chance to work for the NCAA to be honest.

But alas, I just don't get it. I'm sure they have their reasoning, but where is the line in the sand on whether or not a kid can be eligible or not? It's a shame that college athletics comes down to such a thing, and I don't think anyone out there is naive enough to think that pay-to-play situations like Cam Newton's is not that frequent. This stuff, unfortunately, is way more frequent than what's being reported right now. It's a damn shame.

[xubrew]

I just don't understand where the line is drawn.

I support the NCAA on a lot of decisions. I think that in whole, they act reasonably and studying sport management, I would love to have a chance to work for the NCAA to be honest.

But alas, I just don't get it. I'm sure they have their reasoning, but where is the line in the sand on whether or not a kid can be eligible or not? It's a shame that college athletics comes down to such a thing, and I don't think anyone out there is naive enough to think that pay-to-play situations like Cam Newton's is not that frequent. This stuff, unfortunately, is way more frequent than what's being reported right now. It's a damn shame.

you are sick, you know that??

but, since you put it that way, it is my experience that this is actually pretty consistent. he made less than $10k and more than $1k. he has to pay it back, and miss a third of the season. that is pretty standard across the board, be it baseball, soccer, or in this case men's basketball.

another thing that helps is that he accepted the benefits PRIOR to signing the scholarship and athletic aid agreement.

comparing it to justin martin really isn't even apples and oranges. apples and oranges are both round pieces of fruit of similiar size that grow on trees. it's more like apples and steering wheels. it's two COMPLETELY different issues. martin was not a full qualifier. that will make anyone miss a season regardless of sport or school. it had nothing to do with receiving improper benefits.

[Titanxman04]

you are sick, you know that??



I guess you make a fair point about the consistency. As for my depravity, I figured I could be an inside man for X in there. You know, banning any decent recruits UD or UC get, while giving X the pass? :D:D:D

Disclaimer: In case I ever have a chance for an interview at the NCAA though, I am only kidding!

[AdamtheFlyer]

Kanter was directly paid by a professional team. I know they say it was for school, but he was given a pay check. There's no gray area. He's a pro.

Martin didn't meet the academic criteria to play his freshman year. He can still get all 4 years. No gray area, and a kid with academic issues has not been denied anything.

Selby got benefits from a third party. Happens with at least one recruit every year, and the result is pretty much always the same. They sit a certain number of games and repay the cash value of a benefit. If it happens with a school, such as the Damon Flint at Ohio State case ($60, really?), the kid will just go somewhere else and play.

For as much crap the NCAA spews, all three rulings were consistent with their own rules. All three were the proper decisions.

[wkrq59]

There's something sad about college basketball fans arguing about which amateur-who-got-paid should be eligible and which shouldn't.

It's like one guy covered in dog shit and another guy covered in cat shit arguing about which one of them smells better.


Tried to rep you but couldn't...consider yourself repped

[Juice]

comparing it to justin martin really isn't even apples and oranges. apples and oranges are both round pieces of fruit of similiar size that grow on trees. it's more like apples and steering wheels. it's two COMPLETELY different issues. martin was not a full qualifier. that will make anyone miss a season regardless of sport or school. it had nothing to do with receiving improper benefits.

I think Selby did have some academic issues as well, but yes the main issue was the improper benefits.