Michael Chandler

[hipsterdoofus]

http://www.indystar.com/article/20101022/SPORTS02/10220327/Chandler-sets-visit-to-Xavier?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Sports

Indy Star article mentioned Xavier several times.

[dc_x]

Curious since we have no scholarships available.

[GoMuskies]

Curious since we have no scholarships available.

A scholarship always opens up.

[A10fan]

A scholarship always opens up.

He very well may up at a prep school next year and a 2012 recruit.

[XU '03]

Chandler commits to Xavier as well today! per Evan Daniels/Scout on twitter.

[XU '03]

Musketeer Madness works wonders this year! First DSR and now a commit from Michael Chandler per Evan Daniels twitter feed...

[FIGHTING MUSKETEER]

BASKETBALL ORGASM (Can I say that here?). Seriously, if this is confirmed I'm going to stop working and start celebrating big time.

[BBC 08]

BASKETBALL ORGASM (Can I say that here?). Seriously, if this is confirmed I'm going to stop working and start celebrating big time.

It's very true. Confirmed by both Scout and Rivals.

[waggy]

Which class is he in?

[X Factor]

Whoooooo hooooooooo!!!!

Amazing weekend for Xavier basketball on the recruiting front!

Welcome to Xavier Michael!!

2 Top 50 kids in one weekend...niiiiiiiiiiiice.

[FIGHTING MUSKETEER]

Ohhhh My Lord. UNBELIEVABLE! For those like me that attended XU prior to the 90's, this is just beyond our immagination. The Xavier Nation has done such an amazing job. Congrats.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

Giggity!

[FIGHTING MUSKETEER]

It seems he is going to be a 2011. I did not know we had the space. I guess we will make the space.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1014992.html

[xtremefan13]

I think he is going to reclassify to the 2012 class.

Can't confirm was a source but feel like its a strong possibility.

[X Factor]

Can you imagine next year's team??? Holy Cow.

PG - Tu, Lyons, Davis
SG - Lyons, Redford, Wells
SF - Martin, Canty, Wells
PF - Taylor, Latham, Robinson, Reynolds
C - Frease, Chandler

BIG TIME talent at every position!

Chandler is a true center at 6'10 with athleticism and skill. Sweet!!

[FIGHTING MUSKETEER]

I think he is going to reclassify to the 2012 class.

Can't confirm was a source but feel like its a strong possibility.

I think that's even better. I'm going to let my boss (that's me) know I will put my work on hold and get my rum and coke out. The situation calls for it. Cheers!

[GuyFawkes38]

Congrats to Mack and Chandler!!!!!

woooohoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The_Mack_Pack]

How good is next season's recruiting class..Wow.

[sirthought]

This is incredible.

This kid was going to Louisville and decommitted for some reason (you can fill in your own reason)...Rivals was talking a lot about him leaning towards going to UK...then I heard they backed off because his grades weren't so great and they are actually sweating their GPA right now...and then all kinds of schools were after him (Georgetown, Providence, W. Va.)

I think it's great that XU is getting him. He made the right choice!

In Chris Mack's first four recruiting classes...how many four star recruits? This is some kind of a roll.

[bobbiemcgee]

http://blogs.indystar.com/recruitingcentral/2010/10/24/chandlers-commitment-tops-big-weekend-for-xavier/

[BandAid]

Welcome to the family, big guy!

[madness31]

I believe it was ESPN that ranked the X recruiting class at number 10 after this commit. Obviously X will drop back if he is 2012 but the 2012 class will be that much better.

Shouldn't matter to X which class he is part of as the team has plenty of depth next year at all positions. Frease might be the only true Center (without Chandler) but the talent and depth at PF is more than enough for the team to thrive without Chandler next season.

[BigMoeMusketeer]

I have heard he will stay in '11 if he can qualify, which, everyone knows, isn't terribly likely. He'd be a HUGE addition for next year if they can get it done, but otherwise, he steps right in for Kenny in '12-'13.

[paulxu]

I like the idea that recruits are publicly stating their desire to help us get to a Final 4. That's what happens when you are in 3 straight Sweet 16's.

I can't wait to get there.

[Lamont Sanford]

Chandler was seated next to Jalen Reynolds on ther bench Saturday night and it appears the big fella from Detroit got his first XU assist! Congrats Jalen!!!

Welcome to Xavier Nation, Michael!

[bobbiemcgee]

DSR and Chandler‏
10/24/10
Neddenriep, Kyle Neddenriep, KyleKyle.Neddenriep@indystar.com

From: Neddenriep, Kyle (Kyle.Neddenriep@indystar.com)
Sent: Sun 10/24/10 8:35 PM
To:

Wow, no doubt. I thought DSR might happen, but didn't think Chandler would too. That's major.

________________________________________From:: Sunday, October 24, 2010 4:28 PMTo: Neddenriep, Kyle

Subject: DSR and Chandler
Not a bad weekend for X!!!!

Email to me from the Indystar recruiting guy -

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

Some Michael Chandler Highlights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVomkQClecs

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/videos/_/id/56341/michael-chandler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0K2Cs8Z7hM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLb43t8BjKo&feature=related



Here's interviews:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl92IUqUfsw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frqCDD-Mkzo

[pizza delivery]

I can see him going to the NBA as a result of the committment to XU, if he works hard and buys in to the Xavier Way.

[BigMoeMusketeer]

I can see him going to the NBA as a result of the committment to XU, if he works hard and buys in to the Xavier Way.

Yeah, he never would have made the NBA had he stayed with UL or decided on UK or West Virginia.

Come on folks, I know the "Xavier Way" is a big deal, but let's not lose sight of reality. Michael Chandler will end up in the NBA via Xavier or John Carroll. He is a beast! Now, let's hope and pray that a year from now we just got done watching him at Musketeer Madness (maybe, God forbid, in front of a packed house this time) and he isn't in a prep school somewhere for an extra year!

[pizza delivery]

Yeah, he never would have made the NBA had he stayed with UL or decided on UK or West Virginia.

Come on folks, I know the "Xavier Way" is a big deal, but let's not lose sight of reality. Michael Chandler will end up in the NBA via Xavier or John Carroll. He is a beast! Now, let's hope and pray that a year from now we just got done watching him at Musketeer Madness (maybe, God forbid, in front of a packed house this time) and he isn't in a prep school somewhere for an extra year!

Yeah, that's not what I said.

[Drew's Crew]

I am so pumped about this commitment.

I read last night that this guy didn't even start playing organized ball until he was a freshman in high school. Not sure if that is true, but it was in an Enquirer blog, so I assume it is.

If he can become the #4 Center in the country in 3 years of organized ball, just imagine the improvement and potential this guy has. This could be such a huge get for us.

[BigMoeMusketeer]

Yeah, that's not what I said.

Actually, to be fair, it's sort of exactly what you said. That he can make the NBA as a result of committing to Xavier, working hard, and adopting the Xavier Way. Or thereabouts. That is directly inferring he would not make the NBA without those things.

[madness31]

BigMoe, I have to disagree. It is not saying that he cannot make the NBA by going to another school but that he can by coming to X. You inferred that but it was not inferred by the author.

[GuyFawkes38]

I've always rolled my eyes a bit when I hear about "the Xavier way". IMHO, "the Xavier Way" is just hire a coaching staff and athletic department that will work really, really hard.

I do think it's true though that some schools seem to do a better job at developing players. Brian Gregory is widely regarded as a good coach. Yet, I think it's true that he doesn't really have a great record of developing players. Chris Wright should be an NBA player. Yet he lacks the polish of an NBA player and it's questionable if he will ever step foot on an NBA court.

[whitesox]

Now, let's hope and pray that a year from now we just got done watching him at Musketeer Madness (maybe, God forbid, in front of a packed house this time) and he isn't in a prep school somewhere for an extra year!

From what people have been saying about Chandler for the last year or so, it sounds very likely that he will need a year of prep school first (no inside information, but that has been the talk in Indiana for some time). I am preparing myself for Chandler being a 2012 recruit (which means we have quite the start on that class); if he gets here a year earlier, that is just a bonus!

Regardless, this is going to be fun to watch.

[BigMoeMusketeer]

BigMoe, I have to disagree. It is not saying that he cannot make the NBA by going to another school but that he can by coming to X. You inferred that but it was not inferred by the author.

Truth be told, I could care less what he inferred as it certainly isn't worth the time it takes me to type this. But to say: "...as a result of...." most assuredly infers that coming to Xavier (and the rest of the pollyana Xavier Way stuff) will be how he gets to the NBA. Agree, disagree, it's all good.

[BandAid]

Truth be told, I could care less what he inferred as it certainly isn't worth the time it takes me to type this. But to say: "...as a result of...." most assuredly infers that coming to Xavier (and the rest of the pollyana Xavier Way stuff) will be how he gets to the NBA. Agree, disagree, it's all good.

I think you two are are both inferring that you can't stand each other, and you would fight to the death if you were to meet in real life. That's just the vibe I was picking up... :p

[Xman95]

I think you two are are both inferring that you can't stand each other, and you would fight to the death if you were to meet in real life. That's just the vibe I was picking up... :p

But neither should be entered in the thread with hot women fighting to the death. They'll only mess it up.

[BigMoeMusketeer]

I think you two are are both inferring that you can't stand each other, and you would fight to the death if you were to meet in real life. That's just the vibe I was picking up... :p

I'm not inferring that, I'll just come out and say it! I'll fight using the "Xavier Way"! :D :p

[barrack 9]

It seems Justin Martin was ruled a partial qualifier because a course he passed at Lawenece North High School was not acceptable to the NCAA and not because he did poorly in the course. Since Michael Chandler also attends Lawence Horth HS, odds are he has, or will take, the same course. Not sure how our coaching staff can have much effect on this situation; especially with the past reports of LN HS coach's hard feelings towards Mack. Has this been discussed earlier?

[waggy]

It seems Justin Martin was ruled a partial qualifier because a course he passed at Lawenece North High School was not acceptable to the NCAA and not because he did poorly in the course.

Is there a link for this?

[BigMoeMusketeer]

It seems Justin Martin was ruled a partial qualifier because a course he passed at Lawenece North High School was not acceptable to the NCAA and not because he did poorly in the course. Since Michael Chandler also attends Lawence Horth HS, odds are he has, or will take, the same course. Not sure how our coaching staff can have much effect on this situation; especially with the past reports of LN HS coach's hard feelings towards Mack. Has this been discussed earlier?

I'm not expert on either Lawrence North, nor their core course curriculum, but I believe the challenges with Chandler qualifying will go well beyond his core courses. As the NCAA put it, there are 3 things that can ding you: test scores, GPA, core courses -- I think Chandler's struggles are with A and B, not necessarily C. I'll try to find a link, but one of the national recruiting guys (daniels? bosse? telep?) mentioned months ago that his scores and gpa were an issue..at least I think that is what I recall.

[ballyhoohoo]

It seems Justin Martin was ruled a partial qualifier because a course he passed at Lawenece North High School was not acceptable to the NCAA and not because he did poorly in the course. Since Michael Chandler also attends Lawence Horth HS, odds are he has, or will take, the same course. Not sure how our coaching staff can have much effect on this situation; especially with the past reports of LN HS coach's hard feelings towards Mack. Has this been discussed earlier?

The problem with Justin Martin was not the course at Lawrence North itself. The problem was that a core course he took at Moutain State Academy (his second high school) was to similar (in the eyes of the NCAA) to a course he took at Larry North. MSA was trying to say that they were two different course and the NCAA was not having any of it.

[BiggieXU]

Not that this is a source or anything, but the Purdue fan I'm friends with made fun of Xavier for getting Lawrence North guys because they apparently have problems qualifing from there.

[muskiefan82]

Not that this is a source or anything, but the Purdue fan I'm friends with made fun of Xavier for getting Lawrence North guys because they apparently have problems qualifing from there.

I hope you then referred him to the video of the last meeting between X and Purdue

[joe titan]

BMOE: Sorry but you fall victim to believing highly inaccurate statements from questionable sources. For sure SAT/ACT scores are easily verified and GPA, both from Lawrence North & Mountain St, are within arms' reach to check.

Some other "big name" schools who were rejected by Chandler fueled the incorrect basis why they could not land such a touted local recruit.

Not saying they are holding a Rhodes for Chandler, nor that Lawrence & Mountain St. should compare to Jesuit secondary schools, but it is only questions about his core coursework that doomed Justin Martin.

It does seem perplexing that NCAA goes to substantial lengths to compare specific core courses at Lawrence to determine the overlap to courses at Mountain St, but cannot figure out on timely basis how a Memphis player received passing grade in one more advanced math course without passing a more basic course first.

[BiggieXU]

I hope you then referred him to the video of the last meeting between X and Purdue
Ha, I actually watched that game with him. It was great, but he expected to lose since they were young then.

[LA Muskie]

The problem with Justin Martin was not the course at Lawrence North itself. The problem was that a core course he took at Moutain State Academy (his second high school) was to similar (in the eyes of the NCAA) to a course he took at Larry North. MSA was trying to say that they were two different course and the NCAA was not having any of it.
That is what I have heard as well. Also, when it comes to core course requirements, it is almost always due to a transfer and an issue as to whether a course taken a the new school satisfies another core requirement or is too similar to a course taken at the prior school and therefore does not constitute an additional core credit.

[whitesox]

BMOE: Sorry but you fall victim to believing highly inaccurate statements from questionable sources. For sure SAT/ACT scores are easily verified and GPA, both from Lawrence North & Mountain St, are within arms' reach to check.

Some other "big name" schools who were rejected by Chandler fueled the incorrect basis why they could not land such a touted local recruit.

Not saying they are holding a Rhodes for Chandler, nor that Lawrence & Mountain St. should compare to Jesuit secondary schools, but it is only questions about his core coursework that doomed Justin Martin.

It does seem perplexing that NCAA goes to substantial lengths to compare specific core courses at Lawrence to determine the overlap to courses at Mountain St, but cannot figure out on timely basis how a Memphis player received passing grade in one more advanced math course without passing a more basic course first.

There have been a lot of rumors about Chandler's ability to qualify for a long time. These certainly did not come up just because he chose to attend Xavier.

I hope he qualifies and certainly have no idea how close he is, but these questions did not arise because he ended up at Xavier instead of a "bigger" school.

[wkrq59]

Whitesox,
I still believe as I have stated in the past that there is just too much coincidence in the fact that Xavier has a player denied full qualifying status by the NCAA after a high school coach bitched out both Xavier and Mack when the player decided to go to an academy to bolster his academics.
It's plain the coach has motive and opportunity to screw Xavier by simply sending a transcript to the academy which shows the student completed one core course when in fact he hadn't or affixing a name to a so-called core course when in fact it was not.
As far as Memphis not knowing about Rose, that was as BS as Kentucky not knowing about Bledsoe and the NCAA not knowing about either. The NCAA doesn't give a damn about the kid when it comes to a smaller school v. one of the B6. All you have to do is see the movie "Blind Side" to get a clear picture of the NCAA and how it is manipulated every year by coaches who lost out on signing a blue chip prospect. Please don't ever tell me Tom Crean nor the Purdue coach had nothing to do with vengeance, because both are small people who can't stand the fact that Xavier is a more attractive school than their basketball factory as far as many parents are concerned.:D:D

[Xman95]

It does seem perplexing that NCAA goes to substantial lengths to compare specific core courses at Lawrence to determine the overlap to courses at Mountain St, but cannot figure out on timely basis how a Memphis player received passing grade in one more advanced math course without passing a more basic course first.

Ha! That's good stuff.

[danaandvictory]

I still believe as I have stated in the past that there is just too much coincidence in the fact that Xavier has a player denied full qualifying status by the NCAA after a high school coach bitched out both Xavier and Mack when the player decided to go to an academy to bolster his academics.
It's plain the coach has motive and opportunity to screw Xavier by simply sending a transcript to the academy which shows the student completed one core course when in fact he hadn't or affixing a name to a so-called core course when in fact it was not.

How would the coach at St. Vincent St. Mary have access to Justin Martin's transcripts?

[flatspat]

How would the coach at St. Vincent St. Mary have access to Justin Martin's transcripts?

Last year the coach( Keefer I think ) from Lawrence North went on a similar tirade against Mack & Co.

[danaandvictory]

Last year the coach( Keefer I think ) from Lawrence North went on a similar tirade against Mack & Co.

I did not know that.

[wkrq59]

Last year the coach( Keefer I think ) from Lawrence North went on a similar tirade against Mack & Co.

Thank you flatspat. I was thinking of the coach at LN. He was far more pissed than the guy at ASTVSTM. Thing was, Tom Crean was involved supplying nasty asides to the Indy Star reporter who wrote the story. Thing is, Justin Martin is ujltimately the one who is hurt by this, and if it can be proved, Steele's hunting in the fine Hoosier state can only get better.

:logo::shield::sword:

[Masterofreality]

Last year the coach( Keefer I think ) from Lawrence North went on a similar tirade against Mack & Co.

Yeah, well, the HS coaches who bitch need to take a chill pill.

I lost a lot of respect for Dru Joyce over his tirade on Jakarr Sampson. Uncalled for. I had always thought that Joyce was a good coach, a good man and only had his kids best interest at heart, not his own selfish "State Championship" needs. That little bitch session changed my opinion. Sampson and his family made the decision themselves. CMack or the staff had nothing to do with it. Joyce has never sent a kid to Xavier though. Whatever.

How the HS coaches should handle it is how St. Edwards' Eric Flannery handled it after Pitino directed James "Zach" Price to move to Kentucky- with class. All Flannery said was that he wished "the best for James and his development." Period. Eric Flannery has the 100% respect of every college coach in America because A) He develops good basketball players and kids, B) When he gives a coach a player analysis, he never sugarcoats it or pumps it up, C) He never, ever throws a coach under the bus. Flannery has been named to coach many National under 18 teams that competed Internationally and he's developed plenty of D-1 talent.

If the NCAA wants to investigate stuff, they should investigate Slick Rick. What he did with Price was almost identical to BeelzeBob suddenly relocating Dumbtonio Wingfield to Cincinnati a few years ago to a school who would write any grade they needed on a transcript to make Wingfield eligible- with one exception- St. Eds actually educates their kids and Price's grades were OK. The Price move had nothing to do with academics only Slick being able to get Price closer to monitor him.

The NCAA ought to look in the state next door to the south. It's a close easy drive, there's plenty of dirty laundry in Louisville and Lexington to clean out and it wouldn't be to hard to find it.

[xu05usmc]

I think I've posted this before but I have an old friend from HS who works in the guidance department at Hughes HS and he told me that the requirements to qualify for NCAA are really black and white. There are a list of courses that the NCAA requires you to take, and have different Test score and GPA requirements. They are laid out clearly in Prop 16 and 48 (http://www.fastweb.com/student-life/articles/347-ncaas-clearinghouse-rules---whos-looking-out-for-the-student-athlete) of the NCAA rules (Actual rules not linked, just article explaining them). Additionally schools are required to review transcripts of student-athletes prior to them making an official visit to help check out whether they will qualify. I do not know who is at fault but somewhere along the lines someone wasn't doing their job properly which is how Martin took the wrong classes and didn't qualify.

I've also read places, I can't recall where, but Chandler's de-commitment from Louisville had to do with an academic situation similar to Martin's. Let's just hope that Xavier's compliance department is now on notice because of Martin and make sure the same thing doesn't happen a second time around.

[LA Muskie]

I think I've posted this before but I have an old friend from HS who works in the guidance department at Hughes HS and he told me that the requirements to qualify for NCAA are really black and white. There are a list of courses that the NCAA requires you to take, and have different Test score and GPA requirements. They are laid out clearly in Prop 16 and 48 (http://www.fastweb.com/student-life/articles/347-ncaas-clearinghouse-rules---whos-looking-out-for-the-student-athlete) of the NCAA rules (Actual rules not linked, just article explaining them). Additionally schools are required to review transcripts of student-athletes prior to them making an official visit to help check out whether they will qualify. I do not know who is at fault but somewhere along the lines someone wasn't doing their job properly which is how Martin took the wrong classes and didn't qualify.

I've also read places, I can't recall where, but Chandler's de-commitment from Louisville had to do with an academic situation similar to Martin's. Let's just hope that Xavier's compliance department is now on notice because of Martin and make sure the same thing doesn't happen a second time around.

The requirements are black-and-white. But the titles and curricula of courses are not. The issue of CORE course qualification almost arises (as it did with Martin) when a player transfers during high school and takes a class at his new school that the NCAA determines was too similar to a course at his prior school and therefore is repetitive of (instead of in addition to) CORE courses previously taken. Now GPA and test scores, those are black-and-white in all respects.

[TheHoopSide1]

http://www.thehoopside.com/top-prospects.php
this is a list of the top 20 in Indiana regardless of grade...note that marquis teague is NOT #1 as his stats are fairly average (16 and 5 last season) and Hanner Perea is not as high as most people would put him but the two games that I have seen him at he had 13 points and 9 points while getting somewhere in the neighborhood of 8-12 rebounds each time. His athleticism is insane but the rest is just hype because they saw him do an astounding dunk. I really like the way Xavier is recruiting in Indiana, it is definitely a solid source of recruits in the upcoming seasons as a lot will be overlooked due to the standout players who already receive so much attention.


Grady Byrnes
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[xavierj]

That site can't be serious placing Austin Etherington ahead of D'Vauntes & Darwin. I have seen that kid play and to me do not think he will be all that great of a college player. I think he will have a hard time playing much at IU and would not be surprised if he transfers out at some point with the way IU is trying to recruit over him.

[SixFig]

http://www.thehoopside.com/top-prospects.php
this is a list of the top 20 in Indiana regardless of grade...note that marquis teague is NOT #1 as his stats are fairly average (16 and 5 last season) and Hanner Perea is not as high as most people would put him but the two games that I have seen him at he had 13 points and 9 points while getting somewhere in the neighborhood of 8-12 rebounds each time. His athleticism is insane but the rest is just hype because they saw him do an astounding dunk. I really like the way Xavier is recruiting in Indiana, it is definitely a solid source of recruits in the upcoming seasons as a lot will be overlooked due to the standout players who already receive so much attention.



Any list of Indiana players that doesn't have Smith-Rivera and Dee Davis ranked 1 and 2 isn't valid in my book. :)

And why did you post this in the Chandler thread. We aren't recruiting him any more to my knowledge

[bobbiemcgee]

Any list of Indiana players that doesn't have Smith-Rivera and Dee Davis ranked 1 and 2 isn't valid in my book. :)

And why did you post this in the Chandler thread. We aren't recruiting him any more to my knowledge

DSR already "schooled" Pike and Teague this yr. DSR had 35-36 and is scoring 33 ppg:

http://www.highschoolsports.net/local/Indianapolis/leaders/Basketball/Varsity/Boys/2010/All/

[TheHoopSide1]

That site can't be serious placing Austin Etherington ahead of D'Vauntes & Darwin. I have seen that kid play and to me do not think he will be all that great of a college player. I think he will have a hard time playing much at IU and would not be surprised if he transfers out at some point with the way IU is trying to recruit over him.

The reason why Austin is ahead of them is because his ratings are overall more balanced. If Darwin was 6'1" 180 then it would be a different story. D'Vauntes is not quick whatsoever, he can score still, so I'm not knocking him as a player; he can play. I just don't see him being able to guard players laterally that well at the next level, let alone drive (which all stems off of his quickness). Perhaps once he gets to Xavier, Coach will take some of those pounds off of him which will help him improve in every facet. But as of right now, his quickness is what is holding back his ranking. You are welcome to click on a player's first name to see their profile which includes a breakdown of their rating/highlight/interview/etc. Another reason why he may not be as high is simply because Etherington has a year on him. I got a chance to see Etherington play this year and he put on a show. His summer campaign was really hindered because he had a stress fracture in his back. Now that he is back in top form, I expect him to give out more performances like he did when I was there (showing great all-around play) and go back to his averages of 22.9 points, 7.6 rebounds, 2.1 assists and 1.4 blocks (junior). Regardless, X did a tremendous job in recruiting Indiana this year and won't be disappointed next season. You should check out Tyler Wideman, 6'8" 240 pound freshman who just recently put up 13 and 8 for Lake Central High School (a team that features Glenn Robinson III who signed to Michigan). www.thehoopside.com/tyler-wideman.php

Also, I know that we aren't recruiting M. Chandler anymore, I couldn't find another thread that encapsulated Indiana recruiting for X as much as this one.

Grady

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[TheHoopSide1]

@Sixfig
....
@bobbie
I agree his scoring output is pretty solid this season, but I expected his numbers to go up after Terone Johnson left....that makes DSR an elite option for them. Also, if it was entirely based off of scoring, Austin Richie (Lowell HS, Lowell IN) would be signed to Duke and not Western Michigan.

[bobbiemcgee]

@Sixfig
....
@bobbie
I agree his scoring output is pretty solid this season, but I expected his numbers to go up after Terone Johnson left....that makes DSR an elite option for them. Also, if it was entirely based off of scoring, Austin Richie (Lowell HS, Lowell IN) would be signed to Duke and not Western Michigan.

Lowell ain't the State champs North Central, DSR plays against Teague, Patterson etc., etc and the games haven't been close yet. Huge diff. Austin is a good pu for IU, but I don't think he will be playing any great d either right away.

[xavierj]

@Sixfig
....
@bobbie
I agree his scoring output is pretty solid this season, but I expected his numbers to go up after Terone Johnson left....that makes DSR an elite option for them. Also, if it was entirely based off of scoring, Austin Richie (Lowell HS, Lowell IN) would be signed to Duke and not Western Michigan.

Well DSR is the best player on his team and already got the better of Pike and Teague. He has a good chance of leading his team to another state championship as a junior. You can either play or you can't, he can play. If he were signed with IU and did not have an injury this summer his rating would be way higher.

D'Vauntes plays for one of the best teams in Indiana, Lowell however where Richie plays is not very good. Yes there is more than just scoring and Rivera obviously does that, he just wins and I will take winners every day of the week.

[TheHoopSide1]

DSR has the greatest will to win I have seen in a while. In an AAU tournament where the game did not matter in the slightest (lack of coaches, etc.) Rivera single handedly willed his team to win. And I agree about him being the best player on one of the best teams. But the last time I saw him his quickness was such a glaring weakness (but of course it didn't matter because his pull-up is stellar) that I had a hard time putting him ahead of many people. He still has another year to climb the charts and I scheduled myself a visit to see him play since I heard what he did to Pike (did not think he could play that well against that quick of a team) *Note: he also only had 2 three pointers in that game, so his driving must have been on*
Like I said, right now, he is an astounding player, but he needs help on his first step to become truly elite; it is hindering every facet of his game (imagine if he had a Marquis Teague-esque first step how many points he would score). The sites rankings are based off of the ratings, and right now his athleticism is holding back his defensive rating as well. Some may call it a flaw, but you need quickness to guard at the point at the next level.

[xsteve1]

Hoopside, is Xavier still going strong after Gary Harris? I know Steele was supposedly watching him play last weekend.

[TheHoopSide1]

I think Xavier is doing what they can but Illinois, Michigan State, Ohio State and 18 schools in total are also involved. I believe 14 have offered, I would like to see X do more as he will be one of the more hotly contested recruits in the country coming up. Got a chance to see him play...athleticism and control is UNREAL. And yeah I got the report that Steele was watching him too, along with a few other coaches (Pitino, vandy assistant, someone elsewho I forgot...dang.) lol. he has a great frame and has an immensely bright future ahead of him
www.thehoopside.com/gary-harris.php -garys profile
www.thehoopside.com/top-prospects.php -see how gary stacks up (regardless of class)
ww.thehoopside.com/ratings.php -see how the ratings work

[MADXSTER]

Watching him play actually reminds me of Byron Larkin. Great body control and consistently hits the mid range jumper.

[Masterofreality]

DSR has the greatest will to win I have seen in a while. In an AAU tournament where the game did not matter in the slightest (lack of coaches, etc.) Rivera single handedly willed his team to win. And I agree about him being the best player on one of the best teams. But the last time I saw him his quickness was such a glaring weakness (but of course it didn't matter because his pull-up is stellar) that I had a hard time putting him ahead of many people. He still has another year to climb the charts and I scheduled myself a visit to see him play since I heard what he did to Pike (did not think he could play that well against that quick of a team) *Note: he also only had 2 three pointers in that game, so his driving must have been on*
Like I said, right now, he is an astounding player, but he needs help on his first step to become truly elite; it is hindering every facet of his game (imagine if he had a Marquis Teague-esque first step how many points he would score). The sites rankings are based off of the ratings, and right now his athleticism is holding back his defensive rating as well. Some may call it a flaw, but you need quickness to guard at the point at the next level.

I seem to remember another guy who played for DePaul back in the day that didn't have much quickness either- Mark Aguirre. He didn't play point, and I do not think that DSR will either. DSR is more of a 2 or some 3 as I see it. We've got PGs.

All that Aguirre guy did was take the whole program on his back, including old Ray Meyer, and take them to Final 4's.

[boozehound]

Watching him play actually reminds me of Byron Larkin. Great body control and consistently hits the mid range jumper.

That will be nice. Who is the last guy we had that consistently took and hit mid-range jumpers? It seems to be almost a lost art.

[XU 87]

I'm curious about one thing. Assuming that DSR lacks quickness, how did he get ranked in the top 30 nationally by Rivals? He must do some things exceptionally well to make up for his perceived lack of quickness.

[xu15]

I'm curious about one thing. Assuming that DSR lacks quickness, how did he get ranked in the top 30 nationally by Rivals? He must do some things exceptionally well to make up for his perceived lack of quickness.

I'm sure he's at least got deceptive quickness, but you don't get rated as a 5 star recruit without having some serious tools. Let's just say I doubt he'll leave Xavier being know as a guy who just isn't that quick.

[madness31]

Quickness is great but if you are mentally tough and do other things well you can be a great player without quickness.

I believe DSR wants to play point and was told he could at X if he earns the job. I suspect he will primarily play SG but get minutes at point. I expect Davis to be a very good PG and have the starting job once Tu and maybe Lyons leave. If everyone plays to potential it is going to be very difficult to get everyone minutes. Most likely someone will be a bust or transfer for more PT but there are a lot of players capable of minutes.

PG - Lyons, Davis, DSR
SG - Redford, Martin, DSR
SF - Wells, Canty, Martin
4/5 - Taylor, Latham, Reynolds, McKenzie, Robinson, TBA?

Depending on defensive and rebounding ability Canty could get some minutes at the 4. If the big men deliver I expect a final 4 with the above team. Plenty of experience with 3.5 second year players and 1 freshman plus another yet to be named. Martin is given a .5 since he is practicing with the team. Taylor has experience at D1 plus is practicing this year so he is counted as an upper classman. And the great news is that the team should stay at the top for years to come with the exceptional youth (based on rankings). Another big man would be a great get for the above class to keep depth at those positions.

[XU 87]

I'm sure he's at least got deceptive quickness, but you don't get rated as a 5 star recruit without having some serious tools. Let's just say I doubt he'll leave Xavier being know as a guy who just isn't that quick.

You never know until the player gets here. I'm in no way saying, or even insinuating, that I think DSR is overrated (I've never seen him play). But I still recall highly ranked recruits that never got even close to their expectations- Lloyd Price (who my dad called Floyd Prince), Churchill Odia, Joey Rey, Erik Edwards, Brian Henley, etc.

In light of the fact that DSR is in the top 25, and chose X over some big programs, I expect that he'll be a very, very good player. But we'll see.

[madness31]

Lloyd Price wasn't due to a lack of quickness. If I recall correctly he injured his ankle and was never the same after that. Normally that is an injury you can come back from but in his case it seemed to have lasting effects.

[TheHoopSide1]

I seem to remember another guy who played for DePaul back in the day that didn't have much quickness either- Mark Aguirre. He didn't play point, and I do not think that DSR will either. DSR is more of a 2 or some 3 as I see it. We've got PGs.

All that Aguirre guy did was take the whole program on his back, including old Ray Meyer, and take them to Final 4's.

I think DSR is a better PG than the current PG's at Xavier...and to use a rough analogy Gilbert Arenas (granted the scandal and everything) played PG but John Wall came in and moved Gil to SG (also granted that Gil shot 3's too much anyway, the point is you put your best player at their best position). If you go to DSR's profile http://www.thehoopside.com/dvauntes-smith-rivera.php and scroll down to watch his highlight, you'll see what I mean by lack of quickness...that isn't knocking his skills at all...he is still one of the best players in the country..i would just to like to see his quickness develop (note :27 (seconds) and on in the video, he gets buckets, no doubt, but i don't know how he is getting passed these guys..he isn't quick, but he is very VERY crafty).

[TheHoopSide1]

I'm curious about one thing. Assuming that DSR lacks quickness, how did he get ranked in the top 30 nationally by Rivals? He must do some things exceptionally well to make up for his perceived lack of quickness.

http://www.thehoopside.com/dvauntes-smith-rivera.php

*Note that unlike other sites, our ratings are the same for each grade..meaning that he isn't compared against other 2012's, but compared to other high-schoolers..period. also, check out his highlight video that shows off his skill set..

[shock3]

Chandler commits to Central Florida tonight. Judging by his past, I would assume he will de-commit from there in a few weeks.

[Xman95]

Now that time has gone by, I am thrilled that this kid didn't wind up at X. Seems like he has the potential to be an issue. Well, assuming he's ever academically eligible.

[Masterofreality]

Chandler commits to Central Florida tonight. Judging by his past, I would assume he will de-commit from there in a few weeks.


Now that time has gone by, I am thrilled that this kid didn't wind up at X. Seems like he has the potential to be an issue. Well, assuming he's ever academically eligible.

Looks like he's taking whoever will offer him, now.

Like some others (Robert Whaley), he is talented but has issues- not the least of which are academics. If he is declared eligible next year, while Justin Martin is not, there should be a Grand Jury investigation.

I'm surprised BeelzeBob is not involved. This kid looks right down his alley.

[Woodburn]

Chandler commits to Central Florida tonight. Judging by his past, I would assume he will de-commit from there in a few weeks.

You're probably right: the banks are closed on New Years Day, so it may take a bit longer than usual to make sure checks clear etc.

[Muskiefornia]

EDIT: Forgot about UCF commit. Now I am glad he isn't coming to Xavier.

(Tweets linked together)

"Fight just broke out between Michael Chandler of LN and someone from North Central. Not sure who it was. Really, really ugly scene...Benches cleared and some fans rushed the floor. Cops had to come out and pull people off of each other ... The North Central player was Timothy Bass. He is a 5'7 senior guard. He and Chandler have been ejected. Don't know what started it, but... Chandler was seriously trying to hurt him. He was over the top of him throwing punches... Michael Chandler just came out of the locker room for the 2nd half. He is sitting one row behind his teammates. I thought an ejected player ... couldn't return to the court. Honestly, he doesn't deserve to be out here. Poor move by LN and Keefer to allow that... "

http://twitter.com/#!/mb_weaver

[Xavier Nation]

Let UCF have him i am glad that DSR was not involved.

[Xavier Nation]

lol ur addition totally defeats the purpose of my post

[Muskiefornia]

I gave you reps, don't worry.

[xuphan]

D'vauntes was involved in that fight. I live in Indy and they show a replay of the fight on 13 WTHR. The video clearly shows D'vauntes throwing a punch and then running away from the fight. I hope he just got caught up in the moment and let his emotions get the best of him. He is a great talent but I am starting to question the character of this kid.

[stophorseabuse]

I was involved in a bench clearing brawl during a baseball game while in high school. Guy charged the mound after a brush back. You are expected to stand up for teammates in sports. I have never been arrested for anything in my life, I have never been in a street fight, and I am in no way a person who would have ever been a bad representive to my college.

Do you not run out to protect teammates? If DSR's teammate was getting attacked, and he is coming to Xavier, he better damn well do something. Xavier players don't take that shit, and haven't been since we have become a true power. It is part of our identity. Starting brawls--No. Mind fuking teams--YES, Standing up or teammates--YES.

[BBC 08]

Why is something on DSR in the Chandler thread?

[rhyno2110]

D'vauntes was involved in that fight. I live in Indy and they show a replay of the fight on 13 WTHR. The video clearly shows D'vauntes throwing a punch and then running away from the fight. I hope he just got caught up in the moment and let his emotions get the best of him. He is a great talent but I am starting to question the character of this kid.

I hope you have more information on DSR that we don't know. If your doubting him for throwing a punch, thats weak.

[Woodburn]

I hope you have more information on DSR that we don't know. If your doubting him for throwing a punch, thats weak.

A indirect link to the video of the incident is here: http://www.wthr.com/category/89371/operation-basketball. Click the 5:25 "Operating Basketball" Video on the right side. He definitely threw a little punch into the scrum, but he didn't go all Ron Artest on anyone and it sure as hell isn't enough to make me doubt the kid's character. But that's me.

I live in Indy too, graduated from North Central, and have several friends that coach HS and AAU ball here and are close to both LN and NC etc. I'm not trying to get into a "I'm so connected" debate, but I think it's important to note that I've never heard a bad word about DSR. Michael Chandler? Not so much.

[HuskyMuskie]

Do you not run out to protect teammates? If DSR's teammate was getting attacked, and he is coming to Xavier, he better damn well do something. Xavier players don't take that shit, and haven't been since we have become a true power. It is part of our identity. Starting brawls--No. Mind fuking teams--YES, Standing up or teammates--YES.

Reps. I have never heard a single bad word about DSR from anyone, and in this instance he is just doing what I expect from him, and that is standing up for his teammate. Would absolutely love to have this kid back. Chandler? Not so much.

[xuphan]

I was involved in a bench clearing brawl during a baseball game while in high school. Guy charged the mound after a brush back. You are expected to stand up for teammates in sports. I have never been arrested for anything in my life, I have never been in a street fight, and I am in no way a person who would have ever been a bad representive to my college.

Do you not run out to protect teammates? If DSR's teammate was getting attacked, and he is coming to Xavier, he better damn well do something. Xavier players don't take that shit, and haven't been since we have become a true power. It is part of our identity. Starting brawls--No. Mind fuking teams--YES, Standing up or teammates--YES.

Here is another video of the fight http://yfrog.com/0o2ttz

The video clearly shows DSR running into the fight, punching Chandler in the head and then running away. I really dont have a problem with him getting into a fight to protect his teammates but the video shows that this was not the case. If he was trying to protect his teammates he would have stayed in the fight. I dont think one punch and running away shows that he is standing up for his teammates. It is interesting to see a Xavier decommit punching another Xavier decommit. Maybe Chandler said something about Xavier and DSR decided to lay one on him because of it.

[LyonsIsFlyin]

Here is another video of the fight http://yfrog.com/0o2ttz

The video clearly shows DSR running into the fight, punching Chandler in the head and then running away. I really dont have a problem with him getting into a fight to protect his teammates but the video shows that this was not the case. If he was trying to protect his teammates he would have stayed in the fight. I dont think one punch and running away shows that he is standing up for his teammates. It is interesting to see a Xavier decommit punching another Xavier decommit. Maybe Chandler said something about Xavier and DSR decided to lay one on him because of it.

This is a bit of an odd topic to be discussing, when to fight and not to. From what I have been reading, between the players on both teams this wasn't the biggest surprise in the world, apparently alot of trash talking and what not before hand. If DSR were to have done something to stand up for a teammate though, what he did do is exactly what I would prefer cause the alternative would be continuing to hit Chandler and doing possible bodily harm, which would clearly not be what I would want.

Lose, lose situation but as it was stated above, X players do not get punked so I have 0 problems with what DSR did.

[moepvc04]

http://blogs.indystar.com/preps/2011/03/05/more-on-north-centrals-win-over-lawrence-north-and-unfortunate-incident/

Not sure if this has been posted yet. Very unfortunate and I've read reports that DSR could be facing a suspension because of multiple punches thrown. Makes me not so regretful that we lost out on them (most likely in DSR's case)

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

http://blogs.indystar.com/preps/2011/03/05/more-on-north-centrals-win-over-lawrence-north-and-unfortunate-incident/

Not sure if this has been posted yet. Very unfortunate and I've read reports that DSR could be facing a suspension because of multiple punches thrown. Makes me not so regretful that we lost out on them (most likely in DSR's case)

We have not officially lost out on DSR yet. All indications are that he still is high on Xavier. But he will take some visits after the season to other schools. We'll see how that plays out

[MCXU]

I'm not seeing where it says DSR threw punches. Is that in a different article? I do see where it says Chandler was fighting.

DSR is still a target for X. I don't want to start a discussion about him getting into a fight if it never happened.

[Juice]

http://blogs.indystar.com/preps/2011/03/05/more-on-north-centrals-win-over-lawrence-north-and-unfortunate-incident/

Makes me not so regretful that we lost out on them (most likely in DSR's case)

I don't give two shits that DSR threw a punch in a benches clearing brawl. Was he supposed to sit off to the side while every other player got into it? Chandler is obviously a moron but DSR didn't do anything in that situation that a lot of us wouldn't have done. Let's not play the holier than thou card.

[smileyy]

Was he supposed to sit off to the side while every other player got into it?

Yes, because every basketball player, especially every talented basketball player, should have it drilled into his head that nothing good, and lots of bad, will come from joining a scrum out on the floor.

[XUFan09]

If he threw a punch initially and then moved away, it's possible that in that moment it clicked that he needed to get away from the fight before it got out of hand.

[X Factor]

From those videos, I have zero problem with DSR and his actions. He didn't instigate the fight. He took a swing...big deal. Jordan, Bird, Magic, and on and on got into fights on the court where punches were thrown.

I'm not condoning fighting and throwing punches, but this is a non issue to me. DSR is a great kid by all accounts.

[A10fan]

INBRecruits D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera will sit out of North Central's game Saturday against Pike per a source with team. No others received suspensions

Tweeted last night

[Professor X]

@KyleNeddenriep: Central Florida commit Mike Chandler has withdrawn from school @ Lawrence North,per AD Grant Nesbit

The more I hear, the more I am glad Xavier is no longer involved with this kid.

[xufan02]

I'm also glad we cut ties with this kid. He and his crew are nothing but trouble.

[PMI]

Yea, I'd be surprised if didn't end up becoming just another great talent who doesn't make it because of the other circumstances.

[Masterofreality]

Related:

BSnowScout Brian Snow Now that Mike Chandler has withdrawn from LN, the real question is which of the schools he committed to will Jack Keefer blast on the radio?

[LA Muskie]

I don't give two shits that DSR threw a punch in a benches clearing brawl. Was he supposed to sit off to the side while every other player got into it? Chandler is obviously a moron but DSR didn't do anything in that situation that a lot of us wouldn't have done. Let's not play the holier than thou card.
I do. Everyone knows you can't throw a punch. If you feel you have no choice but to leave the bench, then you go get your guy. You don't escalate the issue with roundhouses. It's not "holier than thou." It's judgment. And it's important.

[bobbiemcgee]

Related:

BSnowScout Brian Snow Now that Mike Chandler has withdrawn from LN, the real question is which of the schools he committed to will Jack Keefer blast on the radio?

http://www.indystar.com/article/20110405/SPORTS02/110405021/1001/sports0615/Central-Florida-basketball-commit-Michael-Chandler-withdraws-from-Lawrence-North?odyssey=nav%7Chead

[DoubleD86]

I find this hard to blame or judge Chandler from. Keefer has kids (especially high level prospects, often some with questionable eligibility) leave his program often. If I am not mistaken, Justin Martin also left Lawrence North. I have heard that LN is easy to qualify for because they do not have a minimum GPA requirement. Kids often leave so they can go somewhere and get their stuff in order to qualify for college.

I just wonder if this is the case of Chandler gaining another blemish or its just another kid trying to get out of Lawrence North to better his chances for college.

[tmac03]

I find this hard to blame or judge Chandler from. Keefer has kids (especially high level prospects, often some with questionable eligibility) leave his program often. If I am not mistaken, Justin Martin also left Lawrence North. I have heard that LN is easy to qualify for because they do not have a minimum GPA requirement. Kids often leave so they can go somewhere and get their stuff in order to qualify for college.

I just wonder if this is the case of Chandler gaining another blemish or its just another kid trying to get out of Lawrence North to better his chances for college.

I'd be more inclined to agree with you if not for the timing of the withdrawal. If he was leaving to get academics in order, it would make more sense to do so at the beginning of a semester, not two months before he is supposed to graduate. Of course, for all I know LN or the school he is transferring to operates on quarters or the high school equivalent. Still, given his history, I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[bobbiemcgee]

My guess is there was no way he was going to pass some or any of his classes. If that's the case, he could take a "W" or course withdrawal rather than an "F" ,which would further kill his GPA, and repeat the classes somewhere else. Looks like he will have to repeat the whole year at least. I don't know if you can go to college on a GED, but sounds like he isn't smart enough to pass that.

[bobbiemcgee]

How do you change high schools and graduate with a month to go? Guess things have changed since this old man was in school:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/knights/os-michael-chandler-signs-with-ucf-20110413,0,3442152.story

[Juice]

How do you change high schools and graduate with a month to go? Guess things have changed since this old man was in school:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/knights/os-michael-chandler-signs-with-ucf-20110413,0,3442152.story

At St. X from time to time, we had some kid who screwed up with a month or two to go and would get kicked out. He would then go to his local public high school and get his diploma. It happens but it doesn't change the fact that Michael Chandler is still an idiot.

[bobbiemcgee]

OK, so I assume LN told him he wasn't going to graduate so he can just transfer over to Dumbbell High? Meanwhile, Lyons and Martin have to sit for a year. What a system.

[DC Muskie]

Kid from my senior class dropped out t the beginning of the second semester of his senior year after failing three classes in the fall. managed to transfer to another Catholic school and graduate.

[bobbiemcgee]

Kid from my senior class dropped out t the beginning of the second semester of his senior year after failing three classes in the fall. managed to transfer to another Catholic school and graduate.

I'm sure there is now a wing of the school bearing his dad's name.

[Muskie]

There is an article in the NYT discussing potential NCAA violations at UCF. Check out the XH 's twitter account for the link.

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[Professor X]

ESPN article about UCF recruiting, with quotes from Mack about Chandler's recruitment as well:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=6453617

[bobbiemcgee]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/30/sports/ncaabasketball/30recruit.html?_r=3&pagewanted=1&ref=sports

[nkymuskie]

Macks quote is right at the end. That's interesting that we could not get a hold of Chandler. I would have liked to see him here at X too

[waggy]

So much bs to sort thru in this story, but one thing sticks out to me.. The DePaul association just seems out of the blue. The guy literally steers no one to DePaul but suddenly it's the right fit for Chandler? I think I know what determines the right fit.

What's unfortunate is Chandler is the one who will ultimately pay here. Reminds me of Miles. When you look at it objectively, X probably offered the best situation for the kid. Relatively close to home, friends on the team, and he'd get the help he needs academically.

[PMI]

Macks quote is right at the end. That's interesting that we could not get a hold of Chandler. I would have liked to see him here at X too

From a pure talent standpoint, me too, but I'm SO glad our ties were cut with this kid. He and the people around him are trouble, and regardless of what he could've brought to the court for us, I have a feeling he would have done more harm than good for our program.

[Professor X]

From a pure talent standpoint, me too, but I'm SO glad our ties were cut with this kid. He and the people around him are trouble, and regardless of what he could've brought to the court for us, I have a feeling he would have done more harm than good for our program.

Totally agreed..There has been one issue after another with this kid since his decommitment. Feel like in some ways we dodged a bullet here.

[wkrq59]

ESPN article about UCF recruiting, with quotes from Mack about Chandler's recruitment as well:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=6453617

After reading Pat Forde's story, I thank heaven this kid de -committed from Xavier and has gone elsewhere. He probably will get CFU at least censured by the NCAA if not worse. Is his high school coach the same guy that raised a stink with Chris over Martin's decision to go to a prep school for his senior year? Also, I'm betting that Crean is somehow involved in this whole mess.

:logo::shield::sword:

[Xavgrad08]

Anyone around the City of Louisville can tell you that Brandon Bender is bad bad news. If that guy is involved with a recruit, I hope X cuts ties immediately. According to the New York Times article, the NCAA is already investigating the Chandler recruitment.

I am sure the NCAA will have some questions for Mack. Obviously I don't think Mack broke any rules or did anyting wrong. However, I am sure the NCAA wants to know what Mack talked about with Bender the two times they spoke. If Bender was looking for money that would be incriminating against UCF.

Coaches contacting runners who work for agents in order to get recruits is unfortutately a dirty side of the college game. Hopefully, the NCAA can crack down on the culprits.

Here is a link that tells a little more about Brandon Bender. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6453773

[bobbiemcgee]

" UCF is still waiting to find out whether star center Michael Chandler will qualify academically and can join the team during the fall semester."

- Orlando Sentinel today as UCF leaves for Canada trip -

[TapsPlunkett]

Wasn't this guy a verbal to X at one time?

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/sports/ncaa_football/ncaa-launches-investigation-into-ucf-recruiting-081811

[Tu 4 MVP]

From the article:


Bender has been accused of influencing Chandler, a 6-foot-10 center, to renege on his commitment to Xavier and attend UCF.

[waggy]

This is old news and discussed in the Chandler recruiting thread months ago. He hasn't been an X target for a long time, so this off to the general NCAA forum..

[XUFAN 51795]

Now he is going to prep school instead of ucf... I'm so glad he never made it to x.

[Juice]

Now he is going to prep school instead of ucf... I'm so glad he never made it to x.

His old coach at Lawrence North has no idea where is or where he is going to prep school


Lawrence (Ind.) North coach Jack Keefer told SNY.tv Tuesday that he has no idea where Chandler is or what prep school he will attend after failing to qualify at UCF.

http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/08/30/the-curious-case-of-mike-chandler/#more-56814

[bobbiemcgee]

More trouble for UCF:

http://www2.tbo.com/sports/breaking-news/2011/nov/09/ucf-athletic-director-resigns-amid-recruiting-alle-ar-302012/

[xavierj]

More trouble for UCF:

http://www2.tbo.com/sports/breaking-news/2011/nov/09/ucf-athletic-director-resigns-amid-recruiting-alle-ar-302012/

Didn't the Big East just whore out to this program? Nice addition.

[Juice]

Remember Michael Chandler?

The 6-foot-10 big man out of Indianapolis (Ind.) Lawrence North was the No. 5 center in the Class of 2011 and committed to three different schools – Louisville, Xavier and Central Florida — before being deemed academically ineligible by the NCAA.

Chandler has resurfaced at Northwest Florida State where he is playing for coach Steve Forbes, the former Tennessee assistant, and alongside Louisville-bound point guard Chris Jones.

“Michael sustained a leg injury late in October that slowed his overall progress, which in turn limited the minutes he could play before Christmas,” Forbes, whose team is 24-2, 10-1 in the Panhandle Conference, told SNY.tv.

“Since Christmas, Michael has become one of the best post players in the Panhandle Conference and will be one of the best, if not the best post player in the country next year. He’s shooting 61 percent from the field since that time.”

Chandler is averaging 5.2 points and 2.6 rebounds on the season, but has had several breakout games. He went for 16 points and six rebounds in a recent win over Chipola, had 12 and four against Tallahassee and 15 and eight against Gulf Coast.

Forbes said Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, Auburn, Butler, Pittsburgh, Marquette and N.C. State have shown interest in Chandler, who will be eligible for a Division 1 school in 2014.

“Michael is very coachable and has a sincere desire to become a dominant player,” Forbes said. “He is starting to draw double-teams which tells me how much respect his opponents have for his abilities”

“His positive attitude and bright outlook is refreshing to be around.”

http://zagsblog.com/articles/michael-chandler-thriving-at-northwest-florida-small-forward-cook-visiting-oregon-gonzaga/

[Masterofreality]

Meanwhile, no word on how he's doing in, what I'm sure is, a stringent academic pursuit of knowledge.

[SM#24]

"Chandler is averaging 5.2 points and 2.6 rebounds on the season, but has had several breakout games. He went for 16 points and six rebounds in a recent win over Chipola"

Meanwhile, Chris Thomas had 0 points on 0-6 shooting in the same game.

[GIMMFD]

"Chandler is averaging 5.2 points and 2.6 rebounds on the season, but has had several breakout games. He went for 16 points and six rebounds in a recent win over Chipola"

Meanwhile, Chris Thomas had 0 points on 0-6 shooting in the same game.

Dear lord, what the hell?

[ArizonaXUGrad]

"Chandler is averaging 5.2 points and 2.6 rebounds on the season, but has had several breakout games. He went for 16 points and six rebounds in a recent win over Chipola"

Meanwhile, Chris Thomas had 0 points on 0-6 shooting in the same game.

This kid is the poster child to teach recruits to 'not' listen to handlers. How much better off would he have been if he had just stayed at either Louisville or XU. Instead he chases cash down at UCF and ends up at a CC.

[Juice]

This kid is the poster child to teach recruits to 'not' listen to handlers. How much better off would he have been if he had just stayed at either Louisville or XU. Instead he chases cash down at UCF and ends up at a CC.

I think his main problem is that he would not have been eligible academically but listening to a handler certainly didn't help.

[MADXSTER]

I think he is just mis-understood. ;)

[Juice]

This kid is still being courted by lots of good programs.


Meantime, 6-10 center Michael Chandler is now being courted by Arizona, Oregon, Memphis, Minnesota, Wichita State, ECU and Dayton, DeMeo said.

Allan Chandler, Michael’s uncle, told SNY.tv Michael “will take an official to Arizona,” although no date is set.

Chandler previously committed and decommitted from Louisville, UCF and Xavier.

“He is very talented and has been playing really well,” DeMeo said. “He finishes everything near the rim and has 15-feet range. His work ethic on the court an din the classroom has been outstanding.”

http://zagsblog.com/recruiting/juco-big-man-stephen-hurt-taking-visits-michael-chandler-has-many-suitors/#more-101729

[LA Muskie]

This kid is still being courted by lots of good programs.



http://zagsblog.com/recruiting/juco-big-man-stephen-hurt-taking-visits-michael-chandler-has-many-suitors/#more-101729
That list is not a surprise to me. Every one of those coaches either considers himself a "redeemers" or is trying to make a name for himself -- they will give 2nd and 3rd chances because they believe they can change the kids.