Spank Your Kids!

[Snipe]

Will spanking make your child successful?
A new study suggests spanking young children can help them grow into better-functioning adults (http://theweek.com/article/index/104745/will-spanking-make-your-child-successful)


According to Calvin College psychology professor Dr. Marjorie Gunnoe, spanking children under the age of 6 can make them happier and more successful later in life. Gunnoe questioned 2,600 people, a quarter of whom had never been spanked, about everything from academic success to their optimism about the future and found that those who had been disciplined with spanking between the ages of 2 and 6 faired best in all categories. By contrast, those spanked past age 6 faired the worst. Is it time for parents to reclaim spanking as a healthy way to punish young children?

I have spanked my kids, but now that they are over age six I think the stats don't look so good. The great thing about having spanked them before is that I can still threaten them and give them the fear of God without having to do it again.

Nobody likes spanking kids, and if you do you shouldn't have had children. I couldn't imagine taking the spank out of the arsenal.

Spare the rod, spoil the child. Go outside and pick your switch.

I have even given the belt! Once one of my kids threw a matchbox car and almost hit the other in the eye. He whipped that baby at point blank range and I witnessed it. He never did that again. Cut my other kids head open.

Liberals say that spanking just teaches them violence is the solution. I think those liberals need a good spanking.

Feel free to spank your kids from now on, they will turn out better for it. Just don't overdo it or do it in anger. I like to schedule the spank, because the worst part isn't the spank but the anticipation of the spank. That is horrible on them. By the time I have had to spank them I really don't want to do it. Not to say a quick spank is all that bad either, a quick correction can get their attention right away.

I think we need some studies on how spanking can be beneficial to wives. Men are more rational than women, who are often childlike with emotion and all those bleeding hormones. I think a firm hand could go a long way to promote a healthy marriage.

[rhyno2110]

Thanks Doctor Phil.:p

[Muskie1000]

I know that this has been debated over and over and its been said that's it the problem with todays kids. I have never spanked my kids on the butt - not once, not ever. The closest I came to a spanking was when my son was 2 and tried to touch the hot stove and I hit his fingers because I did want him to fear that. (Let me tell you, it worked). I'm a firm believer in time outs. They do work, the problem is that you have to be diligent and consistent. Something many parents aren't these days. I think the spanking is actually the easy way out - its much easier to hit the butt 2-3 times then have to keep them in a sitting position for any length of time.

[Jumpy]

I'm not a parent, but I will be soon. My wife and I have discussed this issue a lot lately, and we have decided that spanking will be used in correcting a child. We agreed to treat it much like Snipe described- never in the heat of the moment. If our child deserves a spanking, they will be told and it will happen at a later time. for one, I don't want to get caught up in the moment and secondly, I would prefer to do it in the privacy of my own home so that I don't find myself in court for correcting my child like the "hop scotch spanker" that just recently had his case thrown out of court.

The problem is, I always envisioned employing corporal punishment with boys. I never gave it much thought with girls. Now that my daughter is only a couple of months away from joining this world, I am rethinking my stance.

For those of you with children of both sexes, do you treat punishment differently based on the sex of your child?

[Kahns Krazy]

I've spanked Snipe's wife. It only made her more naughty. I think he's right about that after 6 years old thing.

[Frambo]

Never spanked my daughter (oldest)....she would cry and apologize when sent to her room. Had to spank my oldest boy when he was young. My youngest (also a boy) didn't need it because he saw his brother. All 3 turned out fine with the one spanked now a CPA with a Xavier MBA.

When I started teaching in 1977, we were still paddling some boys. It really hurt when that was taken away. Some boys need that reminder. When done properly, without malice, there is nothing wrong with it.

[tmac03]

For those of you with children of both sexes, do you treat punishment differently based on the sex of your child?

I have a 3 year-old daughter and a 7-month old son. Obviously, spanking my son won't come into play for a good long while, but my wife and I have spanked our daughter a few times (we reserve it for when she has done something dangerous after having been warned not to do so). We have no plans to treat our kids differently based on their sex, as a boy or girl is equally capable of putting themselves in harm's way.

My personal opinion is that it is best to tailor your discipline to the personality of the child. For one of my nephews, just the threat of a spanking from his dad is highly effective, whereas for the other, it couldn't faze him less. As you get to know your daughter, you'll figure out the most effective discipline for her, which may look nothing like it is for my own daughter.

[D-West & PO-Z]

My mom spanked me and my brother growing up. I also have a 10 year old brother and she I believe rarely has with him. She has gone soft. My dads words were scary enough for us but my mom had to spank. As we grew older her hand couldnt cut it, haha, she may have used a hanger or two. It worked though let me tell you.

[Jumpy]

My mom spanked me and my brother growing up. I also have a 10 year old brother and she I believe rarely has with him. She has gone soft. My dads words were scary enough for us but my mom had to spank. As we grew older her hand couldnt cut it, haha, she may have used a hanger or two. It worked though let me tell you.

Yeah, my mom had a special paddle made for us. That thing was no joke.

Thanks for the insight guys. I'm sure it will all come in time, but as I look at it now, parenthood just looks like a big ball of uncertainty and worry.

[ballyhoohoo]

The worst was having to get your own switch to be spanked with.

[drudy23]

I don't even understand why they do these studies. Spanking vs not spanking has about as much to do with success as drinking red kool-aid vs drinking green kool-aid...yet they don't study the effects of drinking different colored kool-aid.

I can buy the argument if spanking turns to beating, or if time-outs turn to the complete ignoring of a child....but comparing regular spanking and time-outs and how the two shapes a person is completely assinine.

[XUglow]

Spanking probably worked for me. I remember being out with friends when I was younger. When someone would suggest that we do something bad, I would decline. Being in trouble with the cops didn't cross my mind. Getting a spanking from my dad did.

[Snipe]

My mom used to take to my behind with the hot wheel track. When she went for the legs it was a killer.

My mom is a psychologist who also advised me in later years against spanking my child. I asked her where that thought was when she was giving me the hot wheel track. Man that was painful.

My grandfather used to get a handful of hair if you didn't do what he said when it was time to work in the yard. "No means NOW!". He would take one step toward you and you would get working so fast. That man put the fear of God in me.

I deserved every bit of it and more.

[GoMuskies]

I'm not worried about my kids. I think I should be able to spank other people's children. Some of them desperately need it.

[nuts4xu]

From time to time, I still spank the monkey. It takes the edge off and keeps me sane.

http://media.43places.com/entry/271318pw150.jpg

[MADXSTER]

I've spanked my two boys when they were younger but never my two girls. As they are getting older, the two boys are much easier to raise than the two girls. Corelation....hmmm.

My oldest boy and his friend would do stupid things in which I would grab both of them by the top of the head with a handful of hair in my hands. Thus talking sense into them and explaing how stupid their actions were. My son's friend eventually went and got a buzz cut. He was soo proud of his cleverness. I could only smile/chuckle and congratulate him on his intelligent thinking and resourcefulness.

[ballyhoohoo]

From time to time, I still spank the monkey. It takes the edge off and keeps me sane.

http://media.43places.com/entry/271318pw150.jpg

When are you getting an 18 year old exchange student who needs spanked, err i mean disciplined?

[xudash]

Yeah, my mom had a special paddle made for us. That thing was no joke.

Thanks for the insight guys. I'm sure it will all come in time, but as I look at it now, parenthood just looks like a big ball of uncertainty and worry.

Jumpy sticks the landing!

[MADXSTER]

Looks like this thread may need to be moved into the X-Lounge before too long. :p

[blobfan]

I've spanked Snipe's wife. It only made her more naughty. I think he's right about that after 6 years old thing.
Dang it! Can't rep you.

...I can buy the argument if spanking turns to beating, or if time-outs turn to the complete ignoring of a child....but comparing regular spanking and time-outs and how the two shapes a person is completely assinine.
Agreed. I think the effectiveness of spanking has at least as much to do with the parent. For young parents spanking may be the most effective way to get their point across. Older parents may be more clever and patient and better able to manage time outs and diversion to correct a child. I wonder too how many 6+ yr old kids that are spanked are also yanked, slapped, or otherwise physically handled and if that affects whether or not spanking works.

Too many variables to come up with a definitive answer, in my opinion.

...My oldest boy and his friend would do stupid things in which I would grab both of them by the top of the head with a handful of hair in my hands. Thus talking sense into them and explaing how stupid their actions were. My son's friend eventually went and got a buzz cut. He was soo proud of his cleverness. I could only smile/chuckle and congratulate him on his intelligent thinking and resourcefulness.
Go for the ears next time. I bet he'll miss having hair after that!

[Nigel Tufnel]

Spanking probably worked for me. I remember being out with friends when I was younger. When someone would suggest that we do something bad, I would decline. Being in trouble with the cops didn't cross my mind. Getting a spanking from my dad did.

Ditto for me. My dad beat the shit out of me when I deserved it. I can guarantee that it kept me from being a juvenile delinquent. My old man put the fear of God into me and I needed it. I'm not saying that's how I parent my kids, but I can look back in hindsight and acknowledge that cracking my ass, when necessary, worked for parenting me specifically.

My mom never spanked me..."go to your room and wait until your father gets home and I tell him what you did." That was all it took. Of course, now that I'm a parent and my wife does that with our kids, I hate it. Makes me look like the bad guy. I guess I need to ask my dad if it bugged him when my mom did that to him...hmmm. Either way, dude was a principal and he knew how to bring the pain....and thank God, for my sake, he did.

[Kahns Krazy]

...My grandfather used to get a handful of hair if you didn't do what he said when it was time to work in the yard. "No means NOW!". He would take one step toward you ....



There was a football player in my freshman dorm that had this same interpretation. The judge saw it differently and gave him 8 years to think about it.

[bobbiemcgee]

These spank stories make me laugh. The Holy Cross Brothers in my HS hit you with a huge ass BOARD (on bare butt) with holes drilled in it to cut down on the aerodynamic drag. Blood was ALWAYS a byproduct of these lashings and they never hit you just once.

[Xman95]

Somebody took a picture of MOR that proves he's not opposed to spanking:

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww145/SwoogieKilla/man-spanking-maid.jpg

[XUglow]

These spank stories make me laugh. The Holy Cross Brothers in my HS hit you with a huge ass BOARD (on bare butt) with holes drilled in it to cut down on the aerodynamic drag. Blood was ALWAYS a byproduct of these lashings and they never hit you just once.

My father-in-law would have long discussions about how the Brothers managed discipline, and it wasn't just in school. If you were bad anywhere in town, you knew they were coming after you when they found out. If we said something about Sister So-and-so, he would get started. "Nuns?! Nuns?! You think you had problems with nuns? You don't know anything about discipline. The nuns were easy on us compared to the brothers. The brothers would hit you so hard that they would knock your head off or knock you out of your skin, then they would pick up your head or skin, hand it to you, and tell you to get cleaned up and get back to class, and we would go, but Brother Carl, it's Saturday, and he would tell us to go to sit on broken glass until Mass started the next day, and boy oh boy, if he found out later that you didn't go sit on broken glass..."

[nuts4xu]

Somebody took a picture of MOR that proves he's not opposed to spanking:

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww145/SwoogieKilla/man-spanking-maid.jpg

Did you take that picture on Monday? That is certainly MOR and it looks a lot like the lady serving drinks at hole #10.

[surfxu]

For some reason I think this quote from the movie Team America applies here. Not sure why but I'm posting it anyway. I've cleaned it up a bit.

We're dicks! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks! And the Film Actors' Guild!.. are pussies. And Kim Jong Il!.. is an asshole. Pussies don't like dicks!.. because pussies get screwed by dicks. But dicks also screw assholes. Assholes who just want to poo on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way, but the only thing that can screw an asshole... is a dick... with some balls. The problem with dicks is that sometimes they screw too much, or screw when it isn't appropriate, and it takes a pussy to show 'em that. But sometimes pussies get so full of poo that they become assholes themselves. Because pussies are only an inch and a half away from assholes. I don't know much in this crazy, crazy world, but I do know that if you don't let us screw this asshole, we are gonna have our dicks and our pussies... all covered in poo.

I guess the moral of the story is spanking is probably OK when done at appropriate times and in moderation.

[blobfan]

For some reason I think this quote from the movie Team America applies here. Not sure why but I'm posting it anyway. I've cleaned it up a bit.

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:eek:

[stophorseabuse]

Yeah, my mom had a special paddle made for us. That thing was no joke.

Thanks for the insight guys. I'm sure it will all come in time, but as I look at it now, parenthood just looks like a big ball of uncertainty and worry.

It really is a piece of cake. Make sure your kid knows you love him/her. Value education and make that clear. Find a discipline that works. I discipline most severely if mine does something that could hurt him physically. I do that the moment it happens to connect the thought with trouble. If your religious of course you would have to value that like education too. (Gotta pound that in before critical thinking starts :).

Raising a kid has been much easier than I ever imagined. It limits your life a lot, but I'm sure you are prepared for that. Bad parents are scum. I don't know how you can have a kid and let yourself be a bad parent. You will be fine.