Reasons the A10 is the best conference for Xavier:

[squidward]

There seems to be much debate as to whether Xavier should join the Big East or Big 10. Xavier should stay in the A10. This is because if they join the Big East, there is no guarantee they'd even make the tournament, and would essentially end up either getting the same seed or lower they get in the A10 if they do join the Big East. There is no way, playing Syracuse, WVU, at Marquette, Georgetown, that they would end up getting better than a 6 seed. I think Xavier would probably be a 18-12 team in the BE that gets an 8 seed. There is something about being the biggest fish in a medium sized pond, which is much more comfortable, controlling your own destiny than being a big fish, but in the open ocean with great white sharks where you can get mauled. And the whole Marquette-was it good for them to join the BE argument seems pretty neutral not on either side. But you can't ignore that they have not made it past 2nd round in the tournament since joining the BE, whereas when they had Wade they made the final 4 in CUSA. Marquette could have ended up becoming what Memphis became the past 4 years or so, and creating a false bubble of security for why they should be a top 3 seed every year, in a crap league, which may not be an honest/satisfying thing for some fans, but they would have probably ended up getting higher seeds had they stayed in CUSA and dominated the past 4 years or so since they joined the BE.
1.) Xavier can get a top 6 seed ANY year in the A10
2.) In the A10, Xavier has gotten a 3 seed and 4 seed, and made it to elite 8 twice, and sweet 16 past 2 years
3.) Depaul, Providence, Seton Hall, South Florida
4.) Xavier will ALWAYS be able to get a higher seed in the A10 then it EVER will in the BE
5.)The A10 had the 6th highest RPI last year
6.) The BE has 16 teams, and its RPI is distorted to make it seem AS IF it is much better than it really is
7.) Instead of begging to join a league Xavier simply wouldn't be a good match for, like the BE, what the A10 should do is try to convince a team like Davidson, Northern Iowa, or Providence to simply join the A10, and somehow get rid of St Bonaventure, or Fordham.
8.) The A10 is simply such a more, honest, hard working, earn your battle stripes league that says more about staying in it and proving yourself then just expecting to get a big pat on your back for joining the BE and not doing any better.

[wkrq59]

There really isn't much debate about that subject because Xavier won't be in the Big East as long as UC is in the Big East. Period.
All other speculation is just that. Also look for the Big East to find a money partner to set up its own TV network and then even more money will roll in.
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[GoMuskies]

[QUOTE=squidward;209911]There seems to be much debate as to whether Xavier should join the Big East or Big 10. [QUOTE]

Quit reading here. Big 10?!? Are you on crack?

And everyone knows we should go independent.

[SixFig]

Q is right...but that doesn't stop the debate...just for kicks and giggles.

Once again Squidward is wrong. He assumes failure! Everyone uses USF, UC, and Marquette as the examples of teams that failed in the Conference USA transition. However, I think Xavier would be much more like Louisville than the other three. Louisville is 59-27 in conference play with two Elite Eights since they made the switch.

Xavier recruits, spends money, has facilities, and has the mission that is, while not as grand in tangible amount as Louisville still makes it stand above USF, UC, and Marquette. I don't see those three getting the same upward trend in recruits like us. I don't see them spending huge money on their already great on-campus arenas like us. i don't see them making the Final Four in the next 5 years like we will.

Bottom Line: It could be the Atlantic 10, Big East, Big 10, Big 10,000,000 or the MonSTARS from Space Jam. Xavier will rise to the challenge. Take that to the bank!

[bobbiemcgee]

Bottom Line: It could be the Atlantic 10, Big East, Big 10, Big 10,000,000 or the MonSTARS from Space Jam. Xavier will rise to the challenge. Take that to the bank![/QUOTE]


Absolutely agree!!!!!

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[squidward]

Q is right...but that doesn't stop the debate...just for kicks and giggles.

Once again Squidward is wrong. He assumes failure! Everyone uses USF, UC, and Marquette as the examples of teams that failed in the Conference USA transition. However, I think Xavier would be much more like Louisville than the other three. Louisville is 59-27 in conference play with two Elite Eights since they made the switch.

Xavier recruits, spends money, has facilities, and has the mission that is, while not as grand in tangible amount as Louisville still makes it stand above USF, UC, and Marquette. I don't see those three getting the same upward trend in recruits like us. I don't see them spending huge money on their already great on-campus arenas like us. i don't see them making the Final Four in the next 5 years like we will.

Bottom Line: It could be the Atlantic 10, Big East, Big 10, Big 10,000,000 or the MonSTARS from Space Jam. Xavier will rise to the challenge. Take that to the bank!

once again i'm wrong? i have 4 posts total.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Q is right...but that doesn't stop the debate...just for kicks and giggles.

Once again Squidward is wrong. He assumes failure! Everyone uses USF, UC, and Marquette as the examples of teams that failed in the Conference USA transition. However, I think Xavier would be much more like Louisville than the other three. Louisville is 59-27 in conference play with two Elite Eights since they made the switch.

Xavier recruits, spends money, has facilities, and has the mission that is, while not as grand in tangible amount as Louisville still makes it stand above USF, UC, and Marquette. I don't see those three getting the same upward trend in recruits like us. I don't see them spending huge money on their already great on-campus arenas like us. i don't see them making the Final Four in the next 5 years like we will.

Bottom Line: It could be the Atlantic 10, Big East, Big 10, Big 10,000,000 or the MonSTARS from Space Jam. Xavier will rise to the challenge. Take that to the bank!

I agree. There is much wrong with squidward's post. It always amazes me how XU fans would assume failure if Xavier moved to a bigger conference. Also like I have said before its comical when people use Marquette as a point of failure. As I have pointed out before in Marquettes last 5 years in the CUSA they made the NCAA tournament twice. They have made it every year (5yrs) they have been in the Big East. They caught lightening in a bottle with Wade, they didnt make it to the final 4 because they were in the CUSA and not in the Big East. They havent been past the second rd but its not like they had a history of doing so before they joined the Big East.

Its not going to happen, we would never join the Big East in its current form tomorrow so its moot. And we would never join the Big 10, I have never even heard anyone mention that until this post. The comment that Xavier would NEVER get a seed higher in the Big East than it would in the A10 doesnt make much sense. You win that league one year and you are a one seed, two at the worst.

[Benxman]

[QUOTE=squidward;209911]There seems to be much debate as to whether Xavier should join the Big East or Big 10. [QUOTE]

Quit reading here. Big 10?!? Are you on crack?

And everyone knows we should go independent.

Right on! One would have to be on crack to even think the B10 would consider XU (no major football program, etc).
But really, independant?
Are you on crack?
GO MUSKIES!
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[muskiefan82]

once again i'm wrong? i have 4 posts total.

That should tell you something.

[Fireball]

I look at it this way...

Xavier in the A-10 competes for Final Four berths.

Xavier in the Big East would compete for National Championships.

[XULucho27]

I agree. There is much wrong with squidward's post. It always amazes me how XU fans would assume failure if Xavier moved to a bigger conference.... Its not going to happen, we would never join the Big East in its current form tomorrow so its moot. And we would never join the Big 10, I have never even heard anyone mention that until this post. The comment that Xavier would NEVER get a seed higher in the Big East than it would in the A10 doesnt make much sense. You win that league one year and you are a one seed, two at the worst.

You make great points and I have to agree with you and mostly everybody on this thread. There is no reason to think that X would fail if they moved to the Big East. While winning consistently in the A-10 always nets us a 3-6 Seed, winning at that same level in a conference with better teams (or consistently higher ranked teams) would only serve to: 1) Give us better preparation for the tournament, 2) Provide us with higher ranking and seeding in the tournament.

If the A-10 is a good fit for X, why wouldn't a better conference be a better fit? Wouldn't we get more national exposure, more highly touted recruits, etc? While I think X is just fine in the A-10 I would have no problem with them moving to the Big East.

[SM#24]

If you believe that X would fail (or not be as successful anyway) in the BE, then you must also believe that currently X is overrated and over seeded come tourney time.

[xudash]

If you believe that X would fail (or not be as successful anyway) in the BE, then you must also believe that currently X is overrated and over seeded come tourney time.

Agreed.

Xavier would manage up and excel in the BE just as it did in the MCC and then the A10. Xavier has a PROGRAM and it is a program that is firing on all cylinders. The competition would be fierce and we wouldn't have an expectation for running through the BE, but we would find ourselves in the top of the standings on a consistent basis.

[xu95]

[QUOTE=squidward;209911]There seems to be much debate as to whether Xavier should join the Big East or Big 10. [QUOTE]

Quit reading here. Big 10?!? Are you on crack?

And everyone knows we should go independent.

His name is squidward.

xu95