Born Ready arrested

[STL_XUfan]

Anyone surprised:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/08/15/2010-08-15_lance_stephenson_indiana_pacers_nba_player_arre sted_for_pushing_his_girlfriend_d.html

[Titanxman04]

Well well, you stay classy everyone...

I have never, NEVER, understood why people feel the need to beat someone down who's weaker. Sure, there's the psychological approach, and I'll surely point to the fact that that person clearly hasn't developed correctly. It's just immaturity. I almost feel sorry for the piece of shit.

There's a line in the sand where feeling the need to be better than others (call it the competitive spirit), and then the need to prove that you're better than others. There are times when I really want to beat the shit out of someone for their actions or their words to me. But I stand my ground and take the higher road. I'm glad I can seperate myself from assholes like Born Ready.

[GoMuskies]

I'm a little surprised. Did Huggins not offer him a scholarship?

[Roach]

The tradition continues ...

[Snipe]

Wow what a dick.

Something strong about the time honored Bearcat tradition.

I still give props to Big John Grove for throwing his eigth-month pregnant girlfriend into a bathtub and then breaking beer bottles on her skull. I mean nothing says lovin like...

What disappointed me was that I don't think she is pregnant. Pushing someone down the stairs is Old School Pro Choice! You can't waste that on any young nymph.

I wonder what the 17 year old he sexually abused in high school is thinking now.

Sometimes I am surprised their isn't more vigilante justice. If someone sexually abused my child and walked away into the NBA I would be seething with rage.

It also gives a pattern to follow. They get away with it in high school and they grow up knowing that they can get away with whatever they want. They are animals, pure and simple animals. Rubin Patterson bashed his girlfriends brains open on a bedpost and John Burlew and the Bob Huggins Political Machine got him off. He went on to rape his nanny. Animals and sexual predators. What a proud tradition. Flowerpots. Barstools. Kidnapping. Torture. Shawn Myrape, drugging and raping a minor. UC really contributes to the community where it counts. I wish we could at least sterilize them all.

Speaking of that, I bet Big John Grove is a stand up baby daddy to that kid too.

[Masterofreality]

Yeah, but according to BeelzeBob and the Yellow Toothed Gnome, they are just giving guys the chance to clean up their lives.

Glad that SucKS has such a great rehabilitation curriculum. It sure seems to work.:rolleyes:

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

I honestly believe that after Mick is canned and the dust has settled, the NCAA will be investigating UC for something related to Lance Stephenson. Maybe him talking with an agent while at school or some other violation. There is a reason nearly everyone backed off of one of the most talented players in the 09 class last year

[blobfan]

There are some things I'd prefer to be proven wrong about, such as the ability of UC players with previous legal issues to become productive citizens.

Doesn't Lance know that only lottery picks can get away with that type of behavior?

[Masterofreality]

Doesn't Lance know that only lottery picks can get away with that type of behavior?

Well, Lance did pick Lottery numbers last week.

[bobbiemcgee]

He bashed the mother of his child's head into a step after throwing her down the steps and evidentally had a weapon of some kind. Looks like the Pacers haven't cleaned up the image yet.

http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/123821/pacers--lance-stephenson-arraigned-on-assault--menacing-charges

[rickf]

I hope he is punished severly before he kills someone.Looks like that could have happened this time.

[xu05usmc]

I hope he is punished severly before he kills someone.Looks like that could have happened this time.

I once served a 60 day stint at 2020 when I was 15, didn't teach me anything. In fact when I got out I temporarily dropped out of school and went to the corners thinking I wouldn't be able to shake the thug label. Draconian measures are not always the answer. In fact the only reason I returned to school was because I thought I could be on the basketball team.

Stephenson likely grew up with people catering to his every whim, no one has ever told him no and he always got what he wanted. What he really needed was better guidance from those around him or a mentor. It has just been no one ever had the balls to stand up to him. Cronin had an opportunity last season but he decided to crown Stephenson as soon as he walked on campus. Stephenson always thought everything should be handed to him, that he didn't need to earn it. This is really a shame no matter how we look it, Stephenson had the chance to put his past behind him and blew it. It looks like he will be joining the long list of guys who wasted their talent.

[Masterofreality]

Stephenson likely grew up with people catering to his every whim, no one has ever told him no and he always got what he wanted. What he really needed was better guidance from those around him or a mentor. It has just been no one ever had the balls to stand up to him. Cronin had an opportunity last season but he decided to crown Stephenson as soon as he walked on campus. Stephenson always thought everything should be handed to him, that he didn't need to earn it. This is really a shame no matter how we look it, Stephenson had the chance to put his past behind him and blew it. It looks like he will be joining the long list of guys who wasted their talent.

Reps for this. Well said.

[muskiefan82]

I think he pushed his career down the stairs...

[MADXSTER]

I think he pushed his career down the stairs...

Well put.

[danaandvictory]

There are some things I'd prefer to be proven wrong about, such as the ability of UC players with previous legal issues to become productive citizens.

Doesn't Lance know that only lottery picks can get away with that type of behavior?

Speaking of Lance, I wonder how UC apologist Lance McAllister is whitewashing this latest mess? I mean, after all he wanted Terrell Holloway locked up for attempted murder after the Butler game last year. I'm sure, given his commitment to being fair and balanced, he's calling for the death penalty.

[X-band '01]

Speaking of Lance, I wonder how UC apologist Lance McAllister is whitewashing this latest mess? I mean, after all he wanted Terrell Holloway locked up for attempted murder after the Butler game last year. I'm sure, given his commitment to being fair and balanced, he's calling for the death penalty.

Is he still accusing UC players of point shaving? (http://1530homer.com/cc-common/mediaplayer/playerccas.html?mps=LanceMcAlister.php&mid=http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/CINCINNATI-OH/WCKY-AM/090310_1_mcalister.mp3?CPROG=PCAST%3FCCOMRRMID&CPROG=RICHMEDIA&MARKET=CINCINNATI-OH&NG_FORMAT=sports&NG_ID=wcky1360am&OR_NEWSFORMAT=&OWNER=&SERVER_NAME=www.1530homer.com&SITE_ID=1120&STATION_ID=WCKY-AM&TRACK=)

[Titanxman04]

Born Ready is now being placed up there in the rankings for Biggest Douche in the Universe... Look out John Edwards

http://depletedcranium.com/John_Edward_awarded_on_South_Park.jpg

[SC in DC]

Another of UC's finest!
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Prosecutors-says-Pacers-rookie-Lance-Stephenson-hit-girlfriends-head-on-step-081610

[Juice]

Dez Wells gave his opinion on this via twitter:

dwells_21: 12 years Lance?? #thatswild

[DoubleD86]

This story is just sad. I hope the truth comes out and justice is served, and that Lance can grow and mature from this. Never like to see things like this.

As for UC, I have trouble taking shots at them for this. In fact, as much as I hate to say it, he was in trouble with the law the year before going to UC and in trouble with the law after leaving UC. If anything, you could say being at UC was very good for him since he stayed out of trouble.

I just don't think UC can be blamed or attributed for this. If that is the case, aren't there a couple of XU basketball alums who have done some pretty bad things after leaving Xavier? I don't consider them indicative of the XU program. To me this is just a stupid person who did a horrible thing, for whatever reason (probably the ones xu05usmc pointed out). This stupid person has a history of stupid things, but seemed that UC is the one place he was able to stay out of trouble.

Maybe I am the only one, but I think if anything this shows that Mick and UC did a good job of keeping the kid out of trouble.

[D-West & PO-Z]

This story is just sad. I hope the truth comes out and justice is served, and that Lance can grow and mature from this. Never like to see things like this.

As for UC, I have trouble taking shots at them for this. In fact, as much as I hate to say it, he was in trouble with the law the year before going to UC and in trouble with the law after leaving UC. If anything, you could say being at UC was very good for him since he stayed out of trouble.

I just don't think UC can be blamed or attributed for this. If that is the case, aren't there a couple of XU basketball alums who have done some pretty bad things after leaving Xavier? I don't consider them indicative of the XU program. To me this is just a stupid person who did a horrible thing, for whatever reason (probably the ones xu05usmc pointed out). This stupid person has a history of stupid things, but seemed that UC is the one place he was able to stay out of trouble.

Maybe I am the only one, but I think if anything this shows that Mick and UC did a good job of keeping the kid out of trouble.

UC isnt directly responsible for any of their current or former players getting arrested or in trouble. Its not like they have a class for every player on how to break the law and do dumb things. What this is, is it is indicative of the types of people UC recruits and brings to their school. They have a long history of recruiting guys who arent exactly outstanding citizens. Every other school in the country had backed off Born Ready except for UC. Surely that says something about UC.

UC wasnt to blame when Art Long punched a police horse, or when Donald Little (do I have that right?) tied his roommate up and burnt him. They do have a history of bringing those types of kids in though.

Every school has guys who get in trouble during or after their stay but UC just seems to have quite a few more than most.

[Masterofreality]

UC isnt directly responsible for any of their current or former players getting arrested or in trouble. Its not like they have a class for every player on how to break the law and do dumb things. What this is, is it is indicative of the types of people UC recruits and brings to their school. They have a long history of recruiting guys who arent exactly outstanding citizens. Every other school in the country had backed off Born Ready except for UC. Surely that says something about UC.

UC wasnt to blame when Art Long punched a police horse, or when Donald Little (do I have that right?) tied his roommate up and burnt him. They do have a history of bringing those types of kids in though.

Every school has guys who get in trouble during or after their stay but UC just seems to have quite a few more than most.

This. But add BJ Grove to the above list.

[DoubleD86]

UC isnt directly responsible for any of their current or former players getting arrested or in trouble. Its not like they have a class for every player on how to break the law and do dumb things. What this is, is it is indicative of the types of people UC recruits and brings to their school. They have a long history of recruiting guys who arent exactly outstanding citizens. Every other school in the country had backed off Born Ready except for UC. Surely that says something about UC.

UC wasnt to blame when Art Long punched a police horse, or when Donald Little (do I have that right?) tied his roommate up and burnt him. They do have a history of bringing those types of kids in though.

Every school has guys who get in trouble during or after their stay but UC just seems to have quite a few more than most.

But everyone from this "long history" is gone. They have a new president, new AD, and new coach from those days. This UC program has had very little trouble over the last 4 years. The people letting those "types" of people in have moved on.

These reasons are also why I have no problem with people taking shots at Huggins or the Huggs/WVU marriage for the "types" of people, because that is who was doing it.

I just don't see the Lance example as indicative of a patter for Mick or the UC administration post-Huggins. Much more so it is a one time thing and also is not a coincidence in my mind that in the last three years, his year at UC is the only one he didn't get in trouble.

[D-West & PO-Z]

But everyone from this "long history" is gone. They have a new president, new AD, and new coach from those days. This UC program has had very little trouble over the last 4 years. The people letting those "types" of people in have moved on.

These reasons are also why I have no problem with people taking shots at Huggins or the Huggs/WVU marriage for the "types" of people, because that is who was doing it.

I just don't see the Lance example as indicative of a patter for Mick or the UC administration post-Huggins. Much more so it is a one time thing and also is not a coincidence in my mind that in the last three years, his year at UC is the only one he didn't get in trouble.

I guess the fact that every team except one backed off of Stephenson as the recruiting process went on makes me question UC's decision. Also this article brings up a good point how UC bringing in Born Ready was risky irregardless of him getting in trouble or not. It has to do with their APR score. Did Born ready finish his second semester classes? If not this article points out how he could really hurt UC. This article was from a yr ago, so I'm not sure if the penalties it mentions happened or will happen, or if Lance finished his 2nd semester.

http://ncaabasketball.fanhouse.com/2009/06/30/cinci-risks-academic-progress-with-stephenson/

[Titanxman04]

I guess the fact that every team except one backed off of Stephenson as the recruiting process went on makes me question UC's decision. Also this article brings up a good point how UC bringing in Born Ready was risky irregardless of him getting in trouble or not. It has to do with their APR score. Did Born ready finish his second semester classes? If not this article points out how he could really hurt UC. This article was from a yr ago, so I'm not sure if the penalties it mentions happened or will happen, or if Lance finished his 2nd semester.

http://ncaabasketball.fanhouse.com/2009/06/30/cinci-risks-academic-progress-with-stephenson/

I would argue that UC really had no choice when presented with the option.

Alright, maybe thats a bit extreme, but it's not like Mick is winning much or making the program look good with all his bitching and moaning. He knew he'd have him for a year, it'd bring media attention to his program which was until then, suffering, and would be another player that he could tell recruits went to the NBA.

Really, UC and Mick were already in the shitter as far as I am concerned. Might as well allow a high risk kid with lots of talent in. They could be busted for violations, but the risk probably kept Mick in the job for another couple of years.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I would argue that UC really had no choice when presented with the option.

Alright, maybe thats a bit extreme, but it's not like Mick is winning much or making the program look good with all his bitching and moaning. He knew he'd have him for a year, it'd bring media attention to his program which was until then, suffering, and would be another player that he could tell recruits went to the NBA.

Really, UC and Mick were already in the shitter as far as I am concerned. Might as well allow a high risk kid with lots of talent in. They could be busted for violations, but the risk probably kept Mick in the job for another couple of years.

Potentially minus some scholarships and a possible post season ban of Lance didnt finish out the semester. That is if the article cited is accurate. Plus I would guess the post season ban would be on the extreme side. Not to mention I have no idea if he finished his classes or not.

"The odds of him actually finishing his classes in his second semester at Cincy seem only slightly higher than the odds of Megan Fox showing up on my doorstep covered in nothing but whipped cream.

That would be a big step back for the basketball program, and likely the end of any waivers from the NCAA for their below average APR. Not only would scholarships be at risk, but starting in 2009 the penalties for a poor APR can also include postseason bans. "

[Titanxman04]

Potentially minus some scholarships and a possible post season ban of Lance didnt finish out the semester. That is if the article cited is accurate. Plus I would guess the post season ban would be on the extreme side. Not to mention I have no idea if he finished his classes or not.

"The odds of him actually finishing his classes in his second semester at Cincy seem only slightly higher than the odds of Megan Fox showing up on my doorstep covered in nothing but whipped cream.

That would be a big step back for the basketball program, and likely the end of any waivers from the NCAA for their below average APR. Not only would scholarships be at risk, but starting in 2009 the penalties for a poor APR can also include postseason bans. "

Hahahaha, now THATS a sight I'd like to see. If only she didn't talk though. I mean, I heard she was kind of rude, and Beardface here is kind of sensitive about his figure....

As for the postseason ban? I doubt it would be as harsh as you'd think. If there were violations, it would be the first under this basketball administration at UC in quite sometime. The school, as noted by others, have shown improvement in terms of staying out of trouble off the court, along with academics. There could be a scholarship reduction, and that would probably be more expected. But in terms of a postseason ban, I think the violation would have to rank up there.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Apparently Stephson pushed her down the stairs and slammed her head into a step because she did not answer his calls on a girls night out. Seems reasonable.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/hoop_star_phone_frenzy_W2DLhoDTvoGIZwiedSuJIM

Apparently the girlfriend had been victim of his abuse before but she kept quiet not wanting to ruin his hoops career chances. Those incidents could have possible been when he was at UC? So maybe he didnt stay out of trouble there, it just wasnt reported to the authorities.

[Masterofreality]

Remember the little confrontation during the SucKS game last year. I only have one thing to say in retrospect.

Jordan Crawford is balling.
Born Ready is appalling.

The tale of two programs in a nutshell.

[boozehound]

The more details come out the worse the story sounds. What an amazing scumbag this guy is. I just hope that the Pacers decide that he isn't worth the trouble and cut ties with him.