Will Barton - ineligible

[Xman95]

Didn't see this on here yet (if so, feel free to move). Apparently Will Barton has been declared ineligible by the NCAA for next season. Here's what Barton posted about it:


"It dont get no worse than this," Barton tweeted on Wednesday afternoon. "The hardest thing I ever had 2 face is here. Need vision cuz everything blurry now. Where do I go from here?"

Where to go? How about a classroom? Seems like a good start to me.

Unfortunately way too many schools/coaches/programs look at these kids as athletes and nothing more. Granted, that is the reason they are getting the free ride. But places like X have shown you can have athletes and be concerned about their education. The NCAA needs to start giving more exposure to schools that do it the right way.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Didn't see this on here yet (if so, feel free to move). Apparently Will Barton has been declared ineligible by the NCAA for next season. Here's what Barton posted about it:



Where to go? How about a classroom? Seems like a good start to me.

Who is he? A UC player?

[Xman95]

Who is he? A UC player?

Have they even figured out how to use Twitter or Facebook?

[Masterofreality]

Memphis.

Looks like Josh Pastner recruited in the mode of Slimy Calamari...except that Calamari had figured out a way to get guys eligible- at least for one year.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Have they even figured out how to use Twitter or Facebook?

Ha, good point.

I feel that ever since Huggins left and their program has been falling apart I pay them almost no attention. I used to be able to name most of their players, at least the ones who played, and now the only guy I can name for certain is Nancy Gates.

[GoMuskies]

Memphis.

Looks like Josh Pastner recruited in the mode of Slimy Calamari...except that Calamari had figured out a way to get guys eligible- at least for one year.

Did Calipari teach Pastner nothing about having someone take the SAT for his less intelligent stud recruits?!? Pastner should be ashamed.

[More Cowbell]

Xavier would have been happy to take Barton. Ineligibility is not always the athlete's fault, just ask Mark Lyons. As far as the tweet goes, try comparing it to any of CJ Anderson's tweets.

[smileyy]

If he's that good, he goes to the D-League or Europe, and gets paid right away, and drafted in 2011.



But places like X have shown you can have athletes and be concerned about their education.


I'd be more concerned about his overall future, and while education is a big part of that future, so is playing professional basketball.

[xubrew]

Didn't see this on here yet (if so, feel free to move). Apparently Will Barton has been declared ineligible by the NCAA for next season. Here's what Barton posted about it:



Where to go? How about a classroom? Seems like a good start to me.

Unfortunately way too many schools/coaches/programs look at these kids as athletes and nothing more. Granted, that is the reason they are getting the free ride. But places like X have shown you can have athletes and be concerned about their education. The NCAA needs to start giving more exposure to schools that do it the right way.

we don't know for sure what the situation is. it MIGHT not be his fault. it might not be memphis's fault either.

the issue is that he did not complete his high school courses until this august. the rule is that they have to finish within eight semesters (not including summers), and have everything completed before june. he DID finish high school, but allegedly not on time.

another problem is that he changed high schools....twice. the clearing house asks for transcripts from each high school a student ever attended. i believe it used to be that you only needed to present the transcript from the high school you graduated from. every course that you completed at another high school would be on that transcript anyway, but the ncaa wants to see both.

to explain this better, if any of you ever took a course over the summer at a school other than xavier and transferred that credit in, it would be on your xavier transcript. it's the same with the high schools. it's just that the ncaa wants students to produce both transcripts.

so, something went awry. i believe the issue is that he took a course at one high school, and was given credit for a similiar, but not identical course at the high school he graduated from. (that isn't uncommon, btw, even in college). upon discovering this, he took the course again, but did so AFTER the allotted time he had to graduate. if that is the basis of his appeal, then in my opinion he has a point and a case. i also hope he wins it.

the fault could lie more with the red tape of the ncaa than with his barton. having said all that, when you read something like this, it doesn't exactly ooze intelligence...



"It dont get no worse than this," Barton tweeted on Wednesday afternoon. "The hardest thing I ever had 2 face is here. Need vision cuz everything blurry now. Where do I go from here?"

[kyxu]

Xavier would have been happy to take Barton. Ineligibility is not always the athlete's fault, just ask Mark Lyons. As far as the tweet goes, try comparing it to any of CJ Anderson's tweets.

This.

And to echo brew, we don't know Barton's situation.

Xavier did recruit Barton, and if he had accepted a scholarship offer to play here, our coaches would have taken him. Then he would have been declared ineligible and we would all be on here bitching about how the NCAA doesn't care about the kids.

[Masterofreality]

This.

And to echo brew, we don't know Barton's situation.

Xavier did recruit Barton, and if he had accepted a scholarship offer to play here, our coaches would have taken him. Then he would have been declared ineligible and we would all be on here bitching about how the NCAA doesn't care about the kids.

Just because a kid is recruited doesn't mean that the coaches were positive on him to the end. He didn't come here, but went to Memphis that has a checkerd history.

Maybe our guys soured on him, not him souring on Xavier?

[kyxu]

Just because a kid is recruited doesn't mean that the coaches were positive on him to the end. He didn't come here, but went to Memphis that has a checkerd history.

Maybe our guys soured on him, not him souring on Xavier?

Maybe, but Xavier was fairly late to the Will Barton party, and they offered him a scholarship. I'm not Chris Mack, but despite any perceived academic risk, there are certain players with certain talents the staff is just not going to say "no" to if they want to come on board, and I am confident in saying Barton would have been one of them.

Right now, there's a certain player in the 2011 class Xavier has been on for awhile, but this player is in danger of not qualifying for D-I competition. Still, I would surmise if he wanted to commit to Xavier tomorrow, Mack & Co aren't going to say "no, thanks."

Memphis' past is irrelevant in this situation, and I'm not sure anyone had reason to believe Barton wouldn't qualify. I don't think it's all that different from Lyons' situation where a technicality is keeping this player from playing his freshman year.

Reading his "tweet", I feel for the guy. I'm sure he feels his world has been turned upside down now, and that's never a great feeling. Though I hope he understands this isn't the death knell to his career.

[SixFig]

Though I hope he understands this isn't the death knell to his career.


Heck, even pitching in the California Penal League wasn't the death knell for this guy:

http://www.ibiblio.org/spite/bile/lineup/art/vaughn.jpg

[More Cowbell]

Will Barton - Eligible

http://community.foxsports.com/goodmanonfox/blog/2010/08/21/memphis_gets_good_news:_freshman_barton_cleared_to _play_this_season

[bobbiemcgee]

Heck, even pitching in the California Penal League wasn't the death knell for this guy:

http://www.ibiblio.org/spite/bile/lineup/art/vaughn.jpg

The way he's going, look for a comeback in the penal league.

[waggy]

So how big of a check did FedEx write? Bigger than Kentuckys?

[Jumpy]

Heck, even pitching in the California Penal League wasn't the death knell for this guy:

http://www.ibiblio.org/spite/bile/lineup/art/vaughn.jpg

I'm pretty sure he caught when he was in the penal league.