Bengals Draft

[waggy]

Take Texas WR Jordan Shipley in the 3rd round. I like well-spoken slot receivers.

I like the 1st and 2nd round picks too.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Take Texas WR Jordan Shipley in the 3rd round. I like well-spoken slot receivers.

I like the 1st and 2nd round picks too.

I'm a little late. Go ahead and merge my am I missing something thread.

[DoubleD86]

Here is my rant:

1st round --> Not happy. Not because I don't think Gresham will be good, I think he will be a very good player for the Bengals, but my problem is how we did it. First off, I don't see why you pass of Dez Bryant there. He is a stud who screwed up. He will blow up like Randy Moss (not saying he will be as good) and we will regret missing out on him. I think you have to take the value of Bryant there, especially with the quality of TE we could have taken in 2nd round. Would have MUCH preferred Bryant and then either Gronkowski or Dickson in the second round. Still, if we are going to take Gresham in first round, why not trade back a couple spots. Both Denver and Dallas moved to get a WR in the first round. I truly believe we could have traded our spot to one of them and picked up an extra pick later in the draft while still getting Gresham.

Basically, either take Bryant or move back some and take Gresham, just don't like staying there and taking Gresham.

2nd round --> I am undecided on this pick. Got to love the talent of Dunlap, but his work ethic and motor questions scare me. I probably would have preferred Lee out of Penn St. or Cody out of Alabama. However, I think this is a guy Zimmer can whip into shape and gives us another freak athlete on the edge, which I am alright with.

3rd round --> Love this round. Love it. Shipley was my second choice at that pick (Decker being first) but I think the value for a slot receiver was huge there. This will allow the Bengals to spread the field, even being able to go 4WR with Caldwell and Shipley in the slots, definitely talent for 3WR set with Gresham and Caldwell/Shipley at the slot. Great pick value. LOVE the Ghee pick. Should be a great nickelback and could be groomed to take over at CB if JJo or Hall leave. Yes he had 1 pick in 3 years, but he also had the most passes defended last year (I believe) and was a second round value (hence being invited to the green room). Talks are either him or Trent could move to Safety, which would be helpful. If not, he is a good nickelback who is strong in run support and should be able to develop into a top level CB.

All in all, I am content with the draft, not as happy as many. I get the Gresham pick, just didn't love it. Dunlap I am unsure about and love the third round. Not as excited as last year, but I think this was a very successful first three rounds and definitely helps us.

Edit: Now that we took Gresham, I am excited for what he can do to this offense. If he and Chase step up, the passing game could become VERY dangerous. Either way, I expect the offense to be vastly improved this year.

[xavierj]

OK maybe it was a joke but what does well spoken have anything to do with being a good football player? And the other thing is the Bengals could not take Dez Bryant. The guy is a train wreck. He showed up for a workout without his shoes, was constantly late for practice at OSU and he could only be split to the side of the field of his coaches because he could not grasp the playbook and they had to tell him what to do. If he cannot understand the playbook in college he has no chance in the NFL. The Bengals biggest need was TE and they addressed it.

[chico]

I kind of agree with doubled. Gresham was a very solid pick but they could have had Bryant with that pick and still get the Hernandez kid from Florida in the third. Hernandez is a big, athletic guy - can't block well (but that's not what they want or need in a TE, anyway) but can catch anything thrown to him.

[D-West & PO-Z]

OK maybe it was a joke but what does well spoken have anything to do with being a good football player? And the other thing is the Bengals could not take Dez Bryant. The guy is a train wreck. He showed up for a workout without his shoes, was constantly late for practice at OSU and he could only be split to the side of the field of his coaches because he could not grasp the playbook and they had to tell him what to do. If he cannot understand the playbook in college he has no chance in the NFL. The Bengals biggest need was TE and they addressed it.

I agree. I think the Bengals actually did the anti-Bengals thing and the right thing by taking Gresham over Bryant. The Bengals have enough troubled wide recievers don't they? There is a reason Bryant dropped into the 20's. I applaud the Bengals for staying away and finally nabbing a big time TE.

[D-West & PO-Z]

On another note I thought the Bengals might take the Central Michigan QB with pick 131. Do Bengals fans feel they need to come out of this draft with a young QB? Lefevour has a lot of potential to be a good QB.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wow Johnathon Crompton from Tennessee picked by the Chargers at the end of the 5th round. I would not have expected him to be drafted but not only was he drafted, but in the 5th rd ahead of Lefevour and TonyPike. Interesting.

[chico]

OK maybe it was a joke but what does well spoken have anything to do with being a good football player? And the other thing is the Bengals could not take Dez Bryant. The guy is a train wreck. He showed up for a workout without his shoes, was constantly late for practice at OSU and he could only be split to the side of the field of his coaches because he could not grasp the playbook and they had to tell him what to do. If he cannot understand the playbook in college he has no chance in the NFL. The Bengals biggest need was TE and they addressed it.

Didn't read this before I posted about Bryant. Didn't know about all his problems with the playbook, but if that's the case it's probably a good thing they didn't take him. I still think Hernandez was a steal for NE - reminds me of Tony Gonzalez.

[AdamtheFlyer]

On another note I thought the Bengals might take the Central Michigan QB with pick 131. Do Bengals fans feel they need to come out of this draft with a young QB? Lefevour has a lot of potential to be a good QB.

I think the Bengals will wait until next year to take a development QB.

Loved the Gresham pick. Dez is a diva, taught by the queen diva Deion Sanders. And he's not the Ochocinco type diva, quietly putting in more work than anyone would ever give him credit for. He admitted to showing up for a game about a half hour before kickoff at OSU. And the Bengals already have their 1 and 2 receivers in Chad and Antonio Bryant. Caldwell is the three, Shipley the slot, and Simpson/Jones/whoever can battle it out just to make the roster.

Gresham is the best player in his class at a position of dire need. It's tough to do better than that with the 21st overall pick. "Value" is overrated in the first round. Go out and get a stud you can bank on for several years. Gresham is more likely to be that than Dez Bryant.

[chico]

Myron Rolle would be a Bengal if the old man was still alive. Maybe they'll take him in the 7th round - hopefully they will.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Myron Rolle would be a Bengal if the old man was still alive. Maybe they'll take him in the 7th round - hopefully they will.

Can you believe an NFL coach asked him in an interview what it was like to abandon his teammates when he accepted the Rhodes scholarship? Does that coach ask that to juniors who enter the draft early? What a jackass moron of a coach. I would love to know which coach asked that.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Pike to the panthers.

The new smartest man in the NFL to the Titans.

[MD Muskie]

Can you believe an NFL coach asked him in an interview what it was like to abandon his teammates when he accepted the Rhodes scholarship? Does that coach ask that to juniors who enter the draft early? What a jackass moron of a coach. I would love to know which coach asked that.

what a stupid coach. Myron is going to have a longer and more productive career as a neurosurgeon, which is what he stated is his ultimate goal. He might be THE only player in this draft that if he goes undrafted he will still be better off than everyone else.

by the way, i know a few texas people here in DC and they all say that Shipley made McCoy better. I think that was a great pick for the Bengals.

[DoubleD86]

Second day was not very good for the Bengals in my opinion.

Geno Atkins --> Small DT who has work ethic questions and has trouble getting off blocks. I like the idea of taking a DT for depth but I don't feel great about this guy, I give the pick a C+.

Roddrick Muckelroy --> I actually like this pick more than most of the experts I have read. Need LB depth and someone to groom for when Dhani is done. I understand that lack of speed/athleticism worries, but this kid just plays. Incredibly smart and solid player. At worst he gives us good depth at LB, at best he starts once Dhani moves on. I give it a B-.

Otis Hudson --> Hate this pick. Kid was graded by most as a 7th rounder/FA type prospect. Huge project, too big and slow. Should have gone Safety here I think (Asante would have been my choice). Even if you wanted an OL, there were better available. Just a bad pick. I give it a D-.

Dezmon Briscoe --> LOVE this pick. Kid has character questions I know, but has tons of talent. If you are going to take a risk on a character/red-flag guy, bottom of the sixth round is the time to do it. He had 31 TDs in 37 games. Very good value with very little risk. I give this an A.

Reggie Stephens --> A meh pick. A C/G hybrid is always nice for depth. Should be a versatile back up lineman. Could make the team and provide some depth, could just as easily be cut in training camp. Not really much else we needed, although I wouldn't have minded a LS like that Clint Gresham kid out of TCU. He is someone we better be on the phone with soon. Could be a 10 year starter in the NFL as a LS. Give this pick a C.

Overall, a disappointing day. Other than Briscoe, no real value picks. I like Muckelroy but some have worries/questions about him. The other three are underwhelming to say the least.

All in all, I think the Bengals had an adequate/solid draft. Filled needs, got some good value, and found some players that will contribute this year and in the future. I think the draft could have gone better, but its not a disappointing draft at all.

Overall, I would give the draft a B- grade. solid, sufficient, but could have been better.

Now need to find a couple gems in the FA pool (Clint Gresham, possible RB depth, S depth).

[DoubleD86]

Can you believe an NFL coach asked him in an interview what it was like to abandon his teammates when he accepted the Rhodes scholarship? Does that coach ask that to juniors who enter the draft early? What a jackass moron of a coach. I would love to know which coach asked that.

Absolutely ridiculous. I wanted Rolle for the Bengals badly. Wanted him to fall to them in 7. I hope Rolle has a GREAT career and makes everyone else feel stupid. I can not believe a coach actually asked that question. I wonder if that coach ever switched coaching jobs to better his own life? Did he feel like he abandoned his players then? Why is it ok to better your life within football and leave people behind but not do so outside of football? I would have punched that coach...

[Strange Brew]

Absolutely ridiculous. I wanted Rolle for the Bengals badly. Wanted him to fall to them in 7. I hope Rolle has a GREAT career and makes everyone else feel stupid.

I have a feeling he already makes a lot of people feel stupid. :D

[DoubleD86]

I have a feeling he already makes a lot of people feel stupid. :D

Very true. Not gonna lie, being 8 days older than him, he makes me feel quite underachieving.

[kenny powers]

Now need to find a couple gems in the FA pool (Clint Gresham, possible RB depth, S depth).

They'll pick up the long snapper from uc not Gresham.

[waggy]

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article/2010-04-24/bengals-tiger-stripes-looking-burnt-orange

[waggy]

First off, I don't see why you pass of Dez Bryant there. He is a stud who screwed up. He will blow up like Randy Moss (not saying he will be as good) and we will regret missing out on him. I think you have to take the value of Bryant there, especially with the quality of TE we could have taken in 2nd round. Would have MUCH preferred Bryant...

Bryant: "My dad was a pimp."

Ireland: "What did your mom do [for a living]?"

Bryant: "She worked for my dad."

Ireland: "Your mom was a prostitute?"

Bryant: "No, she wasn't a prostitute."

I debated whether to put this in the "Best Self-Aggrandizing Quote" thread.

[Juice]

Bryant: "My dad was a pimp."

Ireland: "What did your mom do [for a living]?"

Bryant: "She worked for my dad."

Ireland: "Your mom was a prostitute?"

Bryant: "No, she wasn't a prostitute."

I debated whether to put this in the "Best Self-Aggrandizing Quote" thread.

Remember that time when everyone jumped to conclusions because they didn't know all the facts and got real pissed at a guy who in actuality asked a pretty normal question considering the answer before?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Remember that time when everyone jumped to conclusions because they didn't know all the facts and got real pissed at a guy who in actuality asked a pretty normal question considering the answer before?

Ya, I agree.

I think Bryant is denying that is how it went down though.

And the Miami guy came out and apologized for the question which made people think he was wrong.