Arachnids v. cryers

[LutherRackleyRulez]

Tipoff 2'night @ 7 PM.


Game will be broadcast by CBS College Sports.


Current Betting Line: Richmond -4




http://www.docsports.com/college-basketball-lines.html

[LutherRackleyRulez]

Game Previews......



Dayton Daily News......


Rob Lowery hurt his left ankle in practice Wednesday, March 3, and watched with his lower leg submerged in a bucket of ice. If he can’t play, look for senior Mickey Perry to take his place. ... The game is crucial for the Flyers. A victory likely would get them into NCAA tournament at-large territory, while a loss probably means they’d have to win the A-10 tourney to make the field




http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayton-sports/university-of-dayton-flyers/preview-ud-at-richmond-579420.html





Richmond Times-Dispatch.......


Expect a low-scoring game that UR can win if it keeps Dayton under control on the boards. The Flyers lead the A-10 in rebounding margin (plus-6.1). UR ranks 13th (minus-4.9).





http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/sports/college/college_basketball/article/URBB04S_20100303-212805/328180/

[BandAid]

Rob Lowery hurt his left ankle in practice Wednesday, March 3, and watched with his lower leg submerged in a bucket of ice. If he can’t play, look for senior Mickey Perry to take his place. ...

Excellant - a built in excuse for failure.

[XU05and07]

Excellant - a built in excuse for failure.

beat me too it...damn you

[American X]

Excellant - a built in excuse for failure.

Thought the exact same thing, accept my thoughts are spellled correctly.

[Smails]

Thought the exact same thing, accept my thoughts are spellled correctly.

Spelled correctly yes, not so much on the grammar side. Except...accept

Snizap!

[bobbiemcgee]

Perry is an improvement over Lowery's recent play.

[BandAid]

Thought the exact same thing, accept my thoughts are spellled correctly.

Except I couldn't decide whether to write it in English or Spanish...

so we got "excellant" - Everyone wins! or no one wins...depending on how you look at it.

[A10fan]

Thought the exact same thing, accept my thoughts are spellled correctly.

I thought spelled only had 2 l's?

[THill42]

This is a weird thread.

[PM Thor]

I'm bored, so I'm watching this game (322 Directv in Cincy).

It's gotta kill dayton fans to hear Pete Gillen calling this game. Oh and dayton is up 4 early on.

[Flexo]

Richmond is 1 of 9 from 3-point range right now. They shot 41 percent against us.

[GoMuskies]

Can't see it, but looks like Flyers are taking it to the Spiders early on. I dislike Dayton as much as the next guy, but I wouldn't mind seeing the Flyers sneak into the Tournament, and a win tonight just might get them there.

[GoMuskies]

Richmond is 1 of 9 from 3-point range right now. They shot 41 percent against us.

Can't see the game, so I don't know the answer to this, but is Dayton contesting their threes? They had a lot of wide open looks against us.

[PM Thor]

Richmond doesn't look like the same team we played. They look incredibly flat and tired. dayton is outhustling them big time, down 11.

[xufandownsouth]

is there a link to watch this online?

[GoMuskies]

Dominate the first half yet manage to blow almost the whole lead before halftime. Well done Flyers.

[PM Thor]

Not that I could find. Channelsurfing doesn't have it, and it looks like no one is streaming it. Not sure if it's because of CBS or not.

Oh and halftime it's dayton 29 Richmond 25. 6-0 run to end it for the Spiders. Typical ending for dayton, holy crap.

And now we will see one team make the appropriate adjustments, and one won't. Guess which.

[PM Thor]

I hope I'm wrong, but dayton just looks better than Richmond. Getting all the rebounds, just flat out getting after it. Richmond seems lethargic, like their heads aren't into it or something, I don't know what. They can't get a rebound to save their lives.

If Richmond comes back, it will be a testament to that team, and an indictment of dayton.

34-29.

[PM Thor]

IF dayton shows patience and feeds the ball inside, there is no way they lose this game. They need to be disciplined to win this game, because Richmond lives and dies by the three, and they ain't hitting.

[X-band '01]

Richmond has an extra day of rest compared with Dayton - they'd better not be coming up with excuses. UD is king in that regard.

[Xman95]

Just looked at UD's team and, honestly, I think they might be better next season. Can't believe I'm saying that, but...

PG - Staten
SG - Williams (?)
SF - C.Johnson
PF - Wright
C - Searcy

I really can't figure out what Gregory has been doing with some of these guys this year. C.Johnson is one of the two best/most talented players on the team, if not at the top of the list. But Gregory still turns to guys like Lowery and M.Johnson. Huelsman has been a joke for four years, but BG loves him. Next year he'll almost have to start a better five because his favorites will be gone. Regardless of who starts at SG, the guards will be better. CJ is an upgrade over MJ. Wright has another year under his belt. Searcy can't be worse than Huelsman and might wind up being a little better.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

John Cahill Starting to take control

[GoMuskies]

This is going to be a heartbreaker for Dayton.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

This is going to be a heartbreaker for Dayton. :D

Fixed it for you

[PattyMac1021]

Dayton falling apart again. Their fans are going to be on suicide watch after this one.

[Flexo]

Dayton is outrebounding Richmond 40-19. The Flyers have 20 offensive rebounds.

[XULucho27]

Dayton falling apart as expected. Their fans are going to be on suicide watch after this one.

That's more like it.

[PattyMac1021]

Dayton is outrebounding Richmond 40-19. The Flyers have 20 offensive rebounds.

Well good news for Dayton. If the rules for basketball are ever changed so that the team with the most rebounds wins, they'll be a shoe-in for the National Championship.

[GoMuskies]

Poor Dayton.

[bourbonman]

Dayton's momentum was ruined when they were up 8 with about 8 minutes left and they substituted 4 players. WOW!

[PM Thor]

I simply cannot believe dayton lost this game. It would be sad if it wasn't so hilarious. NIT dayton.

How did Richmond win this? dayton totally dominated on the boards. Complete domination, yet a loss.

[blueballs]

...for UD.

Whatever small hopes they had were eliminated tonight when they let the Spiders come back and put the dagger in.

Outside of winning A10 tourney, looks like the 'best UD team ever' is going to the NIT.

[GuyFawkes38]

unbelievable. They dominated that game and still lost.

[bourbonman]

I did LOVE the inbound play by Richmond late when they were being pressed full court. I get heartburn watching X inbound the ball. They might want to take a note. Anyway, congrats to Richmond. Hope to see you in the semi-finals.

[mr. zimpher]

HAHAHAHAHAHA. I love it. I couldn't have scripted it any better than this. UD gets out to a double digit lead, their fans start believing in their team and their season again. Then...... wait for it, wait for it......... THE REAL UD team shows up, craps down their collective leg, chokes away another crucial game, and puts the entire township of dayton on suicide watch. The boys cleaning the shores of the Great Miami should have alot of trash to clean up tomorrow.

[GuyFawkes38]

I think Gregory should have called some time outs when momentum was shifting. Such. An. Awful. Coach.

[SixFig]

...for UD.

Whatever small hopes they had were eliminated tonight when they let the Spiders come back and put the dagger in.

Outside of winning A10 tourney, looks like the 'best UD team ever' is going to the NIT.

Don't forget next year is the "best UD team ever"


YOUR DAYTON FLYERS - 2010 A-10 PAPER CHAMPIONS!!!

[XULucho27]

This game truly was a microcosm of Dayton's season. Strong start, followed by overachievement, all leading to inevitable let-down. I hope they're picked to win the A-10 again next year, it just makes the late season collapse that much more enjoyable.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

Don't forget next year is the "best UD team ever"


YOUR DAYTON FLYERS - 2010 A-10 PAPER CHAMPIONS!!!

Preseason A10 champs. Chris Wright Player of the Year. Sweet 16. Elite 8. Final 4.

You name it, it was predicted on UDPride.

[GoMuskies]

Remember when we used to get relegated to the NIT on occasion? Yeah, that sucked.

[blueballs]

I love to reflect on all the shit UD fans say to me all year long, at the end of the season.

"best UD team ever" really sat with me this year. And I never saw it, and felt bad they thought that.

Another good one was "you guys lost to Baylor? Who is Baylor?" Well, ranked 21/22, RPI of 10, SOS of 28 and in, what I believe to be, the toughest conference.

Suck it long and hard UD

[Pablo's Brother]

how many NBA players have they developed now?

[blueballs]

how many NBA players have they developed now?

Even their own thread tonight says CW is doubtful for the NBA. Failure is in the water up there.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

how many NBA players have they developed now?

About as much as Lasalle...I take that back, Lasalle had Rasual Butler and Steven Smith for a year...About as many as Fordham

[vee4xu]

I will never shed a tear when ud loses. But, I was especially rooting for Richmond tonight because them winning pretty much puts Richmond in the NCAA tourney. A ud win would have created too much doubt about Richmond to the selection committee. A two point, double overtime loss to X in Cincy is one thing to consider. But losing to the cryers at home is quite another. Especially in light of how bad ud has been on the road this year. So, to me the A-10 now has three solid NCAA bids and this would be true even if someone other than X, Temple or Richmond would win the A-10 tourney.

[XU-XHI]

Preseason A10 champs. Chris Wright Player of the Year. Sweet 16. Elite 8. Final 4.

You name it, it was predicted on UDPride.

I think you might have misunderstood what they said. "Preseason A10 Champs (not season), NIT Final 4, Chris Wright1st team NIT. Something like that, I believe, is what they meant.

[payday]

Dayton's momentum was ruined when they were up 8 with about 8 minutes left and they substituted 4 players. WOW!

Anybody else notice the last UD timeout when they were down 4? The cameras stayed on the UD huddle, and Gregory looked around and had to ask who was in the game. Five guys raised their hands simultaneously. Looked like a CYO huddle. He subs so much, he loses track of who's in and who's not. Give him another extension, UD.

[Masterofreality]

I just can't stop laughing. It is almost incredible how bad a coach the Midget is. I was sitting there thinking that if this game got really close in the last two minutes, Shorty would get schooled by Mooney- and it happened!

How happy am I that the dump gave Gnome Jr. a contract extension last year?....

....Almost orgasmic!

[GoMuskies]

About as many as Fordham

Smush Parker thinks that's bulls***.

[kyxu]

UD has lost 7 conference games now by 4, 1, 1, 2, 3, 2, 8 and 4 points.

That has got to be frustrating. Wow.

[golfitup]

I feel like substitution patterns in college ball just in general is kind of out of control. But BG takes it to a whole new level...

[jdm2000]

Just looked at UD's team and, honestly, I think they might be better next season. Can't believe I'm saying that, but...

PG - Staten
SG - Williams (?)
SF - C.Johnson
PF - Wright
C - Searcy

I really can't figure out what Gregory has been doing with some of these guys this year. C.Johnson is one of the two best/most talented players on the team, if not at the top of the list. But Gregory still turns to guys like Lowery and M.Johnson. Huelsman has been a joke for four years, but BG loves him. Next year he'll almost have to start a better five because his favorites will be gone. Regardless of who starts at SG, the guards will be better. CJ is an upgrade over MJ. Wright has another year under his belt. Searcy can't be worse than Huelsman and might wind up being a little better.

I would almost buy that, but I think they will struggle breaking in a frosh PG; I am not sold on Paul Williams; and Searcy hasn't gotten to develop because of his odd allegiance to Huelsman.

I think it's very difficult for any team to lose four seniors who play a lot and expect to be better. No matter how bad they may have been.

[PM Thor]

I cannot believe dayton lost that game. I mean, everyone knows how I feel about dayton, but I was trying to watch the game as an unbiased observer.

Think about it, Team A outrebounds Team B at home by 18, gets 14 offensive rebounds compared to 6, but has 20 TOs to 12. Leads throughout the game. Team B, reliant on the 3, goes 6-18...while Team A also goes 6-18..

and Team B wins.

N
I
T

[Cheesehead]

Winners find a way to close games. UD is doing its annual late season melt-down.

Give Gregory a 10 year extension. UD has the #1 recruiting class coming in next year.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[XULucho27]

UD has lost 7 conference games now by 4, 1, 1, 2, 3, 2, 8 and 4 points.

That has got to be frustrating. Wow.

The worst part is that with the exception of the Xavier, St. Joe's, and Temple games they either had the lead or were tied with less 5 or less minutes to go in each of those losses. Granted some of these leads were minimal (i.e. 1 or 2 point lead), but as they've shown time and time again, every lead they have (even an 8 point lead with 6 minutes) is tenuous at best.

Good riddance UD, the Dance is better off without you.

[Snipe]

If Dayton beats SLU and makes a run to the A-10 Tourney Final they could be in. They might not have to win it all.

Boy can they blow games. They really blow goats.

[Xman95]

How happy am I that the dump gave Gnome Jr. a contract extension last year?....

....Almost orgasmic!

I just threw up a little. Check that, a lot.

[Cheesehead]

Preseason A10 champs. Chris Wright Player of the Year. Sweet 16. Elite 8. Final 4.

You name it, it was predicted on UDPride.

Yes, I have heard this for years from the UD faithful. It's comical at this point.

Enjoy the NIT Cryers!

[XU-XHI]

This ud team just doesn't have any consistent shooters. They are desperatly in need of even a sick Brian Roberts. Athleticism doesn't win games. You have to put the ball in the peach basket.

[Snipe]

I feel bad for Flyers fans. They choked again. How can those guys stand it? It would rip me apart.

[Masterofreality]

Good riddance UD, the Dance is better off without you.

As proven by udump/DePuke a few years ago.

That game was as bad as the Gay Porn on UD Pride.

[SixFig]

Richmond, XU, and Temple appear to be destined for better than 8 seeds easy.

[X-band '01]

Anybody else notice the last UD timeout when they were down 4? The cameras stayed on the UD huddle, and Gregory looked around and had to ask who was in the game. Five guys slowly raised their hands simultaneously. Looked like a CYO huddle. He subs so much, he loses track of who's in and who's not. Give him another extension, UD.

Priceless.

[GuyFawkes38]

I've had my quetions about Mack's use of Redford.....But he gets a lot of shots.

Luke Fabrizus (sp), Dayton's first true 3 point specialist, is completely ignored.

[kyxu]

I feel bad for Flyers fans. They choked again. How can those guys stand it? It would rip me apart.

I'm in the same boat. I read some of the stuff on UD Pride, and I winced.

Sure it's nice to see UD's season go down with a thud, but it's too much.

Must...look...away, but...can't.

[GoMuskies]

I feel bad, too.......I bet on Dayton to win. Stupid, stupid!

[SixFig]

I'm in the same boat. I read some of the stuff on UD Pride, and I winced.

Sure it's nice to see UD's season go down with a thud, but it's too much.

Must...look...away, but...can't.

It's tragicomical how they view their failures in light of the team "down south"

[XU05and07]

Can Brian Gregory get a lifetime contract?

[SlimKibbles]

I've had my quetions about Mack's use of Redford.....But he gets a lot of shots.

Luke Fabrizus (sp), Dayton's first true 3 point specialist, is completely ignored.

And he has height! Can you imagine Brad Redford being 6'9" like Fabrizius?

[XU97]

This will become a yearly event for ud just like getting beat in Cincy has become for them....

[XU-XHI]

You know you're in trouble when your AD is already trying to figure out how to get a Home NIT game.

this from today's DDN:

Home NIT game?

If the Flyers play in the NIT, UD Arena would be available for a first-round game, according to Athletic Director Tim Wabler.

If I'm an AD, I'm only talking about the NCAA tourney and doing all I can to promote my team...but then this is the flyers.

[XU-XHI]

UD is now whining about the POD they were in this season:

UD may get new conference ‘pod’ group (http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayton-sports/university-of-dayton-flyers/ud-may-get-new-conference-pod-group-576918.html)

This is a joke.

ud's pod had them playing X twice, SLU twice and Duquesne twice. SLU preseason was picked 12th with the Dukes 5th, and X 2nd.

X's pod has dayton 1st, Charlotte 7th and Fordham 14th.

Very little pre-season difference. There is no way anyone can predict which team, like SLU, would take off and have a great year. It just as easily could have been Charlotte at the top.

Give me a frickin' cryer baby break!

[vee4xu]

If the ud crowd isn't complaining about something, they are not happy. Yet, the events are such that they will always be complaining and thus never happy. Wow, knowing this makes me happy. Glad I read this thread.

[XU-XHI]

One other thing...the cryers should be counting their blessings that SLU is a quality team this season. They desperatly need another quality win at the end of the season. SLU could be a quality win and a rpi assist. If pre-season rankings held up, SLU would be a rpi killer for ud right now.

Crash & Burn flyers

[MADXSTER]

When you're a young team aka Saint Louis, you would want an easier pod. When you are preseason favorites to win the league, preseason top 25, returning an entire team from the second round of the NCAA tourney the year before, then you would want a tougher pod, wouldn't you???

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

I've never heard a more ridiculous argument from Dayton fans, and that is saying a lot. The fact that they can sit there with a straight face and blame something as stupid as this for their woes is mind-boggling.

Duquesne and St Louis were terrible just two years ago. They aren't world beaters now, but they are competitive teams in the A10. Get over it DDN.

Xavier had to play 5 road games from Feb 3rd to Feb 23, against quality teams (UMass, UD, Florida, Charlotte, St Louis) with 1 home game...That is an absolutely brutal stretch. Xavier didn't complain. They went out there and finished 5-1.

[XU-XHI]

When you're a young team aka Saint Louis, you would want an easier pod. When you are preseason favorites to win the league, preseason top 25, returning an entire team from the second round of the NCAA tourney the year before, then you would want a tougher pod, wouldn't you???

I would and I wouldn't whine about how the schedule falls. Did X whine about having to play almost the entire month of February on the road. They didn't like it but they went out and won.

This from the article:
"UD generally has opted for two opponents from the top group and one from the middle to help its RPI and make its home schedule more attractive."

BS

ud had one top (X), one middle (Dukes), and one bottom (SLU).

I hear the world's smallest violin playing when I read that article.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

I would and I wouldn't whine about how the schedule falls. Did X whine about having to play almost the entire month of February on the road. They didn't like it but they went out and won.

This from the article:
"UD generally has opted for two opponents from the top group and one from the middle to help its RPI and make its home schedule more attractive."

BS

ud had one top (X), one middle (Dukes), and one bottom (SLU).

I hear the world's smallest violin playing when I read that article.

It's like we're in bizarro world...Before the season, they were screaming about how their OOC schedule needs more "big names" and strength. Now we're hearing their schedule is "too tough." Yes, "too tough" for the preseason A10 champs, preseason player and coach of the year in the A10, preseason sweet 16/elite 8/final 4 team, preseason undefeated A10 run, preseason A10 tournament champions...

[Frank D.]

UD is now whining about the POD they were in this season:

UD may get new conference ‘pod’ group (http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayton-sports/university-of-dayton-flyers/ud-may-get-new-conference-pod-group-576918.html)

This is a joke.

ud's pod had them playing X twice, SLU twice and Duquesne twice. SLU preseason was picked 12th with the Dukes 5th, and X 2nd.

X's pod has dayton 1st, Charlotte 7th and Fordham 14th.

Very little pre-season difference. There is no way anyone can predict which team, like SLU, would take off and have a great year. It just as easily could have been Charlotte at the top.

Give me a frickin' cryer baby break!

Logically, complaining solely about the pod you're in really doesn't make any sense. The only way the schedule could be considered unfair in an unbalanced conference (where you don't play everyone home and away) is if you have an inordinate number of tough road games. Road games make or break a conference schedule. And having tough home games is a good thing (as XU-XHI mentioned) - it's a way to rack up quality wins. So, let's look at our conference road games vs. theirs: (our games against each other not included)

Xavier: Fordham, St. Louis, Temple, LaSalle, G.W., UMass, Charlotte

Dayton: Fordham, St. Louis, Temple, St. Joe's, Duquesne, Bonnies, Richmond.

Is there really a quality difference in our road schedules? Yet, they lost 5 of those. We lost 1 of ours - that's the difference.

[smileyy]

Dayton "unfortunate" or "unlucky", or however you want to describe playing below their statistically expected performance level:

http://www.basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=964

Interesting fact: Dayton was the 5th luckiest team in the nation last year (their record should have been worse). This year, they're the 7th unluckiest (last I checked).

[Frank D.]

Dayton "unfortunate" or "unlucky", or however you want to describe playing below their statistically expected performance level:

http://www.basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=964

Interesting fact: Dayton was the 5th luckiest team in the nation last year (their record should have been worse). This year, they're the 7th unluckiest (last I checked).

Everything evens out. Fact is, they probably weren't as good a team as they appeared last year, and they probably aren't as bad a team as they appear this year.

[smileyy]

Last year, they basically won all of the close games that they ended up losing this year.

[xubrew]

not only is this stupid, it's irrelevant. the selection committee factors in unbalanced conference schedules. for instance, they know virginia tech played the easiest acc conference schedule possible and will factor it in. same for the atlantic ten, big east, and every other unbalanced league. it's actually in your best interest to play the better teams because it gives you more chances at statement wins.

[xavierj]

Dayton complaing because they had to play duquesne twice? They are losing to fordham at home right now.

[xupuck10]

Dayton complaing because they had to play duquesne twice? They are losing to fordham at home right now.

Where's the logic in having a Friday afternoon game?

[XU-XHI]

Everything evens out. Fact is, they probably weren't as good a team as they appeared last year, and they probably aren't as bad a team as they appear this year.

I agree that they are probably a bit better than last season's team. They're problem, similar to uc, is that their players marginally improve from Frosh to Seniors. Whatever POD they are in, you can bet that those teams with any sort of experience have improved more from the previous season than ud.

[Lamont Sanford]

Where's the logic in having a Friday afternoon game?

I think they wanted to mercifully put a swift end to this season!