"Our guys don't respect Xavier" - Raccoon face

[bobbiemcgee]

http://tucsoncitizen.com/wildaboutazcats/2010/02/21/time-for-arizona-to-respect-itself-and-get-things-back-to-good/

Lexus running on Empty?

[The_Mack_Pack]

Bad team chemistry is on the coach and the players he recruits. Parrom sounds like a punk with all the incidents he's had over the years and I'm kind of glad he isn't on Xavier.

[blobfan]

I think it best to give new coaches at least 2 seasons to show what they are worth so it's a little soon for me to laugh at this.

But I have to admit I'm smiling.
:D

[Masterofreality]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

The guy is trying to cover for raccoon by saying he "probably meant his players don't know Xavier."

Listen. The guy is a head coach and usually those guys are pretty guarded in what they say and think closely about it first. I'm not buying the writer's take.

Me thinks that a little jealousy is now setting in out in the desert. No way that the raccoon thought that his job would be this crappy out there, and, by contrast, I'm sure that he thought that with DBrown leaving and the other 2 seniors, that Xavier would be doing a rebuild.

HA!

Memo to the most recent former coach. Our coach now is doing a fantastic job, and arguably better than you could have done. You went for the $$$ and got them so take the garbage that goes along with it.

No respect? It goes both ways.

[goxavier84]

-We are currently sitting at the top of the Atlantic 10 with a high probability of wearing white for our first game of the tournament.

-We have highly rated recruits committing to come to Xavier.

-Dayton is in line for a 7 seed...in the A-10 Tournament.

-The future looks as bright as ever for Xavier Basketball.

So why in the world is anyone wasting their time being bitter still? Who cares? Honestly. Stuff like this makes us sound whiny, jealous, and bitter. It's "Daytonesque" behavior, and yes, that's the worst adjective I can use to describe something.

The team has moved forward. I suggest we all do the same.

[SixFig]

Frankly I don't respect Arizona much either...not that he cares.

[XU05and07]

Other than that, it’s a safe bet the rest of the Wildcats from Nic Wise to D.J. Shumpert did not watch an Xavier game last season.

Can someone tell me what's wrong with this sentence? I hate people that don't know what they are talking about.

[boozehound]

I don't really know what to make of that quote without any context. My first reaction is not to assume it is meant in a negative manner. You could take is as a 'our guys don't respect Xavier and that is the problem', which very well could be the way he meant it.

Weird article overall. I thought it started out OK, then the guy started quoting Matchbox Twenty lyrics from 10 years ago. I'm not really sure that enhanced the article a whole lot.

[kyxu]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

The guy is trying to cover for raccoon by saying he "probably meant his players don't know Xavier."

Listen. The guy is a head coach and usually those guys are pretty guarded in what they say and think closely about it first. I'm not buying the writer's take.

Me thinks that a little jealousy is now setting in out in the desert. No way that the raccoon thought that his job would be this crappy out there, and, by contrast, I'm sure that he thought that with DBrown leaving and the other 2 seniors, that Xavier would be doing a rebuild.

HA!

Memo to the most recent former coach. Our coach now is doing a fantastic job, and arguably better than you could have done. You went for the $$$ and got them so take the garbage that goes along with it.

No respect? It goes both ways.

Respectfully disagree.

I don't think Miller was taking a shot at Xavier, where he still has a very close relationship with Bobinski, Mack and a lot of former players.

I do think Miller was jabbing at his current team as in they don't "respect" the workmanlike programs that don't have the flash or ink, but have lots of success, like Xavier. Simply put, such a program isn't going to strike the same chord, or motivate such a group of kids.

Miller did leave us in his dust for more dough, but I don't think he's the type of guy to take public shots at the Xavier program.

[kyxu]

I don't really know what to make of that quote without any context. My first reaction is not to assume it is meant in a negative manner. You could take is as a 'our guys don't respect Xavier and that is the problem', which very well could be the way he meant it.

Weird article overall. I thought it started out OK, then the guy started quoting Matchbox Twenty lyrics from 10 years ago. I'm not really sure that enhanced the article a whole lot.

Yeah, agreed. It was a very poor article to begin with.

Still, I don't think it was Miller's intention to take a shot at Xavier.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Can someone tell me what's wrong with this sentence? I hate people that don't know what they are talking about.

He put an instead of a? Do I win reps?

[boozehound]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

The guy is trying to cover for raccoon by saying he "probably meant his players don't know Xavier."

Listen. The guy is a head coach and usually those guys are pretty guarded in what they say and think closely about it first. I'm not buying the writer's take.

Me thinks that a little jealousy is now setting in out in the desert. No way that the raccoon thought that his job would be this crappy out there, and, by contrast, I'm sure that he thought that with DBrown leaving and the other 2 seniors, that Xavier would be doing a rebuild.

HA!

Memo to the most recent former coach. Our coach now is doing a fantastic job, and arguably better than you could have done. You went for the $$$ and got them so take the garbage that goes along with it.

No respect? It goes both ways.

After I just said I wouldn't speculate too much on intent I am not going to speculate on the intent some more.

If this is the case, and you make a good point about coaches being guarded, MOR, then it really comes off negatively on Miller, I think.

It kind of sounds like the guy who had a great girl and dumped her for a 'hotter' girl. The thing is that it turns out the hotter girl is a total head case. The dumped girl, meanwhile, is doing just fine without him...

Without any context at all it is tough to really know what to think.

[XU05and07]

He put an instead of a? Do I win reps?

Yeah...so the author is under the assumption that it is Eggs-vier instead of Zavier...otherwise the "an" is not necessary.

[AviatorX]

He put an instead of a? Do I win reps?

Thus he was "pronouncing" it Ex-xavier.

[XUglow]

The end of the article talks about Sendek possibly being the Pac 10 coach of the year. This may be the first time that the thing to do would be to leave that position open.

[DC Muskie]

Parrom has got to grow up. He's getting people to watch what he does during timeouts.

That's not good.

[NoDaker84]

Personally I don't think this writer has a clue what he is talking about...just look at the title!

"Time for Arizona to respect itself and get things back to good"

I rest my case!

[Muskie]

Respectfully disagree.

I don't think Miller was taking a shot at Xavier, where he still has a very close relationship with Bobinski, Mack and a lot of former players.

I do think Miller was jabbing at his current team as in they don't "respect" the workmanlike programs that don't have the flash or ink, but have lots of success, like Xavier. Simply put, such a program isn't going to strike the same chord, or motivate such a group of kids.

Miller did leave us in his dust for more dough, but I don't think he's the type of guy to take public shots at the Xavier program.

This was my interpretation as well. I think deep down Miller probably wishes his guys "did respect" X enough to watch last seasons tapes and take something away to add to their game.

[DC Muskie]

This was my interpretation as well. I think deep down Miller probably wishes his guys "did respect" X enough to watch last seasons tapes and take something away to add to their game.

My question to this is...how does he even know whether his guys respect Xavier or not? Did he ask them? When he talks about Xavier, does Nic Wise respond, "Child Please." Does Sean even talk about Xavier?

Does he even need to?

[blobfan]

I thought the article said Sean was asked if he would show X tape to his current team. He wasn't the one to bring up X in this case so I'm willing to give him a little more slack for a confusing response. It probably wasn't on his list of prepared topics and he's never seemed comfortable with the media. I sort of expect him to sound stilted and confusing.

[kyxu]

My question to this is...how does he even know whether his guys respect Xavier or not? Did he ask them? When he talks about Xavier, does Nic Wise respond, "Child Please." Does Sean even talk about Xavier?

Does he even need to?

Yeah, it's a very, very peculiar statement to make. I really didn't know what the hell was meant the first time I read it.

Maybe I'm giving Miller too much the benefit of the doubt, but I interpreted it to mean something along the lines of "my players don't respect a team like Xavier, because my players think their sh*t doesn't stink."

I dunno. I just can't fathom Miller, or any coach, taking a shot at their former team in public.

[boozehound]

Yeah, it's a very, very peculiar statement to make. I really didn't know what the hell was meant the first time I read it.

Maybe I'm giving Miller too much the benefit of the doubt, but I interpreted it to mean something along the lines of "my players don't respect a team like Xavier, because my players think their sh*t doesn't stink."

I dunno. I just can't fathom Miller, or any coach, taking a shot at their former team in public.

Yeah. I have gone back on forth on this, but the more I think about it the more I find it hard to believe that he would take a shot at Xavier publibly like that. I don't see what the benefit for him would be, and he is still friendly with the AD and a lot of the coaching staff, particularly Mack. I think that kyxu's intrepretation may be the correct one here.

[Masterofreality]

Yeah. I have gone back on forth on this, but the more I think about it the more I find it hard to believe that he would take a shot at Xavier publibly like that. I don't see what the benefit for him would be, and he is still friendly with the AD and a lot of the coaching staff, particularly Mack. I think that kyxu's intrepretation may be the correct one here.

It's more fun to believe the alternative, however. :p

Hee, hee.

[DC Muskie]

Maybe I'm giving Miller too much the benefit of the doubt, but I interpreted it to mean something along the lines of "my players don't respect a team like Xavier, because my players think their sh*t doesn't stink."

Can you blame them really? I mean it is Arizona and the coach left Xavier to go there. The players pretty much have a walking example of not really having to respect Xavier.

But I don't think Miller was taking a shot at us. But I really don't understand the concept, really. This is a program that has gone to 25 dances in a row, Final Fours, Elite 8's and a National Championship 13 years ago. Why do you need to compare to Xavier?

[paulxu]

OK, one of you bright guys explain this last sentence of the article for me.

The time is now for Arizona to respect itself, not the way Xavier did things when Miller was there. They must co-exist with each other once and for all to get things back to good before it gets too late

What is he getting at there? It almost sounds like he is implying that when Miller was at X, that Xavier did not respect itself. I think our players co-existed and we had it good...back with Miller...and now.

Help me out here.

[xsteve1]

This guys a hack writer. There's a reason he's stuck in that media juggernaut.

[waggy]

It's interesting that the oil and water analogy was used, because the Miller-Arizona union isn't exactly peanut butter and jelly either.

[AviatorX]

Any college basketball article featuring Matchbox Twenty lyrics is a bad one if you ask me.

[SlimKibbles]

Respectfully disagree.

I don't think Miller was taking a shot at Xavier, where he still has a very close relationship with Bobinski, Mack and a lot of former players.

I do think Miller was jabbing at his current team as in they don't "respect" the workmanlike programs that don't have the flash or ink, but have lots of success, like Xavier. Simply put, such a program isn't going to strike the same chord, or motivate such a group of kids.

Miller did leave us in his dust for more dough, but I don't think he's the type of guy to take public shots at the Xavier program.

Good post. That's the way I took it as well.

[Xman95]

It kind of sounds like the guy who had a great girl and dumped her for a 'hotter' girl.

Then he gets closer and realizes that the "hot" girl actually isn't that pretty and was just hiding behind layers of make-up. The girl he just left was a natural beauty and didn't have to try to look good...she rolled out of bed looking good.

[Xman95]

By the way, somebody's getting fatter...

http://tucsoncitizen.com/wildaboutazcats/files/2010/02/SeanMiller9.jpg

[golfitup]

It's 3 AM and I must be lonely!

[GoMuskies]

By the way, somebody's getting fatter...

http://tucsoncitizen.com/wildaboutazcats/files/2010/02/SeanMiller9.jpg

He's getting Lexus money now. He was probably skimping by on Ramen and water here at Buick U.

[The_Mack_Pack]

Then he gets closer and realizes that the "hot" girl actually isn't that pretty and was just hiding behind layers of make-up. The girl he just left was a natural beauty and didn't have to try to look good...she rolled out of bed looking good.

It wasn't until then that he realized that true beauty isn't in make-up products and salons but true beauty is who you were happiest with.

[golfitup]

It wasn't until then that he realized that true beauty isn't in make-up products and salons but true beauty is who you were happiest with.


Then he gets closer and realizes that the "hot" girl actually isn't that pretty and was just hiding behind layers of make-up. The girl he just left was a natural beauty and didn't have to try to look good...she rolled out of bed looking good.

These are definitely the words of guys who went to Xavier.

[Ledgewood]

Well that was insulting.

I'm glad his first season has been more or less an embarrassing failure. I hate Sean Miller.

[Gimino]

Xavier fans...

Let me give you the context of the press conference where Miller made his "Our guys don't respect Xavier" comment. It was 100 percent NOT a slam at Xavier.

Part of the discussion at the press conference was if the Arizona players had a certain sense of "entitlement" -- if there was a sense that they felt they were better than they really are because of the name across the front of the jerseys. This has been an Arizona problem for at least three, four years. I suspect it was never a problem for Xavier.

Miller, in fact, was the one who used the word "entitlement" regarding his players. It hasn't always been easy to get them to play as consistently hard as he wants them to play.

Given where the discussion was headed, I asked Miller if he ever used Xavier game tape as an example of how to do things. That's when he said, "Our guys don't respect Xavier." Not that there would be nothing to learn, but that his "entitled" guys mistakenly would think they were above that.

Given Arizona's youth, player defections and more new systems on offense and defense, Miller had done about as well as could be expected in his first season. He just needs more time to get his kind of players on board.

I've never heard him say one bad thing about his time at Xavier. To me, it seems as if Arizona and Xavier both have bright futures.

[golfitup]

I wanna push you around
Well I will, well I will
I wanna take you for granted
Yeah, I will I will...

[Masterofreality]

I've never heard him say one bad thing about his time at Xavier....


Yeah, it's what has been said after he left.

"Xavier's a Buick. Arizona is a Lexus.." Quoth Sean Miller from Kevin Parrom.

[Xpectations]

I can believe we're now fabricating (make that reversing) what Miller actually meant so he can be hated more. That's silly. it was pretty obvious what the context was (i.e., it was a shot at his players) when reading the article.

[bobbiemcgee]

Xavier fans...

Let me give you the context of the press conference where Miller made his "Our guys don't respect Xavier" comment. It was 100 percent NOT a slam at Xavier.

Part of the discussion at the press conference was if the Arizona players had a certain sense of "entitlement" -- if there was a sense that they felt they were better than they really are because of the name across the front of the jerseys. This has been an Arizona problem for at least three, four years. I suspect it was never a problem for Xavier.

Miller, in fact, was the one who used the word "entitlement" regarding his players. It hasn't always been easy to get them to play as consistently hard as he wants them to play.

Given where the discussion was headed, I asked Miller if he ever used Xavier game tape as an example of how to do things. That's when he said, "Our guys don't respect Xavier." Not that there would be nothing to learn, but that his "entitled" guys mistakenly would think they were above that.

Given Arizona's youth, player defections and more new systems on offense and defense, Miller had done about as well as could be expected in his first season. He just needs more time to get his kind of players on board.

I've never heard him say one bad thing about his time at Xavier. To me, it seems as if Arizona and Xavier both have bright futures.

Thx for the post. I suspect that you are absolutely correct. We just like to rag on raccoun face. Can't be helped. Same with Beaknose.

[KabeX]

Damn I tried but I just can't find a way to car about some mediocre PAC-10 team. What I care about is 21-7 #25 AP and FOUR STRAIGHT. I also care about beer but that pretty much goes without saying.

[Gimino]

Thx for the post. I suspect that you are absolutely correct. We just like to rag on raccoun face. Can't be helped. Same with Beaknose.

Don't let me get in the way of your fun; just wanted to help set the record straight. Enjoy the rest of the season and the NCAAs.

[bobbiemcgee]

hey gimino....did you do the press conference/interview?

[Gimino]

hey gimino....did you do the press conference/interview?

Yes... I was there. It was Miller's weekly news conference a couple of weeks ago.

[DC Muskie]

Xavier fans...

Let me give you the context of the press conference where Miller made his "Our guys don't respect Xavier" comment. It was 100 percent NOT a slam at Xavier.

Part of the discussion at the press conference was if the Arizona players had a certain sense of "entitlement" -- if there was a sense that they felt they were better than they really are because of the name across the front of the jerseys. This has been an Arizona problem for at least three, four years. I suspect it was never a problem for Xavier.

Miller, in fact, was the one who used the word "entitlement" regarding his players. It hasn't always been easy to get them to play as consistently hard as he wants them to play.

Given where the discussion was headed, I asked Miller if he ever used Xavier game tape as an example of how to do things. That's when he said, "Our guys don't respect Xavier." Not that there would be nothing to learn, but that his "entitled" guys mistakenly would think they were above that.

Given Arizona's youth, player defections and more new systems on offense and defense, Miller had done about as well as could be expected in his first season. He just needs more time to get his kind of players on board.

I've never heard him say one bad thing about his time at Xavier. To me, it seems as if Arizona and Xavier both have bright futures.

This is really interesting. I thought Arizona was Arizona, because well, it is Arizona.

I really have a hard time understanding, most things really, but the idea that Arizona somehow fell off the map, and that Miller did as well as expected. Hasn't Arizona made 25 straight trips to the dance? I could have sworn I read that somewhere.


Yes... I was there. It was Miller's weekly news conference a couple of weeks ago.

No disrespect, but where in the hell are all of these Arizona fans coming from?

[gladdenguy]

Again....I'll say it...I hope Miller never goes to another NCAA tourney....2010....check.
And yes 95...he is getting fatter. A "slob" is a good word to describe the raccoon. Going back to Pitino..."how can we as coaches be in bad shape when we try to get these athletes in tip top shape"....Rick Majerus, Sean Miller, Bob Huggins, etc.
Miller is all about money and food now. Obviously not coaching.

[Gimino]

This is really interesting. I thought Arizona was Arizona, because well, it is Arizona.

I really have a hard time understanding, most things really, but the idea that Arizona somehow fell off the map, and that Miller did as well as expected. Hasn't Arizona made 25 straight trips to the dance? I could have sworn I read that somewhere.

DC Muskie...

Arizona was not expected to be a tournament team this season. Arizona was picked fourth in the Pac-10, which is where it figures to end up if it holds serve at home this week. Whatever problems Arizona has with personnel and attitude and whatever ... Miller mostly inherited those after two years of disarray in the program.


No disrespect, but where in the hell are all of these Arizona fans coming from?

I'm not a fan. I'm a Tucson writer who just wanted to give you some context to Miller's comments. Nothing more than that ... think of him what you will.

[Xman95]

Again....I'll say it...I hope Miller never goes to another NCAA tourney....2010....check.
And yes 95...he is getting fatter. A "slob" is a good word to describe the raccoon. Going back to Pitino..."how can we as coaches be in bad shape when we try to get these athletes in tip top shape"....Rick Majerus, Sean Miller, Bob Huggins, etc.
Miller is all about money and food now. Obviously not coaching.

Yeah, but that douchebag stays in shape by nailing anything that doesn't move. Hell, the players probably shower with their shorts on. Pitino's a dirtball.

[GuyFawkes38]

I think the talk about Miller getting fat is ridiculous (likewise, do we really need a reminder that Majerus if fat everytime his name is mentioned on the board).

That being said, I've heard rumors that Mack engages in an insanely challenging workout program. A lot of motivated people, likewise, take their workouts extremely serious (Obama and Bush come to mind....they spend hours in the early morning at the gym). Of course, you can be fat and motivated. But there aren't that many people who wake up at 5am and spend 3 hours at gym who are unmotivated. I think it's a good sign for Mack.

Also, I really appreciate Mack's love of Oprah. I think it sends a strong signal to recruits and their parents that Mack is in touch with his feelings.

[PMI]

I think Miller was trying to light a fire under our team before the home stretch since his team won't be dancing. He was just trying to throw us a bone so one of his programs could do damage. He can always point to Xavier when questioned about his own ability.

Alright, I don't literally believe all that, but to me, there's no way Miller was taking a shot at Xavier. He may have left us in a less-than-favorable fashion, but I simply don't believe he'd ever hold a grudge against us or look back on his Xavier experience in a negative light. There is absolutely no logical reason Sean Miller would have to make a derogatory comment about the Xavier Musketeers, particularly one year later with all his people still in the program. It was a difficult quote for me to interpret given the lack of context and additional quotes provided, but I really doubt it was a knock on us.

[wkrq59]

Is this another "oops" statement out of Miller's mouth???? First, "can't win a national championship here," then "Buick to Lexus, now "No respect." BTW, I don't think you motivate your players by telling a reporter they don't respect your former school. But even giving him credit for trying to give Xavier a left-handed compliment, it was a poor choice of wording.
He took the money and ran, and that's fine. You gotta do what's best for your family. But really, we have far more happy things on which to concentrate. Why waste energy on someone who obviously appears to be unhappy in his work.
We've got two of the biggest games in the season to see won, regular mentions for top 10 plays and as a team that could shock a lot of people in the NCAA tournament. And we're now recognized nationally as being among the top 25 teams. Why even think about him. The racoon is gone. Long live the Mack Truck.:D:D:D

[Porkopolis]

After this comment--even though I believe no ill will was intended--I'm done with paying attention to Coach Miller. I love Chris Mack and am choosing to focus on him, not our old coach. Sean Miller did great things for us, but it is time to close the book on him. I am not even going to worry about Miller any more.

[xubrew]

i've heard miller is a much bigger tipper now, and has stated numerous times that the tex mex restaurants in arizona are much better than what he was used to before. i think that is a slight toward xavier, and toward cincinnati in general. just one more sign about how he really never was fully dedicated and would jump at the first big opportunity.

[xsteve1]

The name calling of Miller looks weak. Miller left for the money just get over it. I think he's finding out he probably was a better fit at X with these statements. The high four star and 5 star guys think they have a sense of entitlement and go more off of their ability and probably don't feel the need to work as hard as the 3 star guys. His best player Derrick williams was a 3 star recruit.

[boozehound]

The name calling of Miller looks weak. Miller left for the money just get over it. I think he's finding out he probably was a better fit at X with these statements. The high four star and 5 star guys think they have a sense of entitlement and go more off of their ability and probably don't feel the need to work as hard as the 3 star guys. His best player Derrick williams was a 3 star recruit.

I agree 100%. I would rather have a guy with less raw talent and loads of work ethic coming out of high school (Jason Love) than a highly recruited guy who doesn't think he has to put the work in (Nancy Gates).

I think that many coaches sometimes get a little too wrapped up in how high a player can jump and how well he can shoot and overlook some laziness and attitude problems.

[Ledgewood]

I'm sure what Miller meant was that his players don't appreciate what XU does. I'm sure it was meant to be a compliment. But whatever, screw that guy.

The article itself is what's insulting. It's poorly written, and I have no idea what the point is he is trying to get accross, sans the jabs at XU. Like, what is that comment about how they need to respect themselves and co-exist unlike XU under Sean???

[Xman95]

The high four star and 5 star guys think they have a sense of entitlement and go more off of their ability and probably don't feel the need to work as hard as the 3 star guys.

I have to disagree with this. First, we are in on 4- and 5-star guys. Should we tell Justin Martin to stay home because he's a 4-star recruit so he won't work hard? Second, it depends on the individual. You'll find a bunch of lazy 3-star players and a bunch of ass-busting 5-stars. John Wall seems to be carrying his weight at UK. It just depends on the individual and, to some extent, the coaches who have that individual.

I'm not trying to get in a debate on this one. I know what you were getting at and understand your point. I just think it's to large of a net to cast.

[wkrq59]

I have to disagree with this. First, we are in on 4- and 5-star guys. Should we tell Justin Martin to stay home because he's a 4-star recruit so he won't work hard? Second, it depends on the individual. You'll find a bunch of lazy 3-star players and a bunch of ass-busting 5-stars. John Wall seems to be carrying his weight at UK. It just depends on the individual and, to some extent, the coaches who have that individual.

I'm not trying to get in a debate on this one. I know what you were getting at and understand your point. I just think it's to large of a net to cast.

In the future think Jason Love when you classify players by how somebody rates them one through five stars. It is damn near impossible to predict what is in the heart of a 18-19-year-old kid.
Did anyone rate Jason Love when he came to Xavier overweight and needing a lot of work. The improvement of Jason Love over the last three years is not only a testimony to his work ethic and chracter, it is a testimony to Xavier.
Rating or ranking players before their college careers even start is just plain silly. Ponder if you will how long it took Drew Lavender to adjust to Xavier, how long it took Lloyd Price, one of the highest ranked players ever to come to X and never live up to his rating and if you want some non-Xavier ecamples. try UC's Dumbtonio Wingfield, and even Lance "Born Ready" Stevenson has yet to live up to his "rating." :D

[GuyFawkes38]

Miller commented a couple weeks ago that he's never been disappointed more by a group of players than his team this year.

It is an interesting aspect about Miller. He is far, far from the "players coach" that some of us expected him to be.

[bobbiemcgee]

Miller commented a couple weeks ago that he's never been disappointed more by a group of players than his team this year.

It is an interesting aspect about Miller. He is far, far from the "players coach" that some of us expected him to be.

Nic Wise must have a pantload....anybody think he goes in the draft?

[cutterX]

I agree with kyxu on this one. I think Miller's quote was meant as more of a jab at his own players. I agree with the theory that what the AZ players don't respect is the blue collar, Joe Lunchpail approach to getting it done that most XU players have been known for.
Don't get me wrong I have as much of a chip on my shoulder as anyone when it comes to perceived slights directed at XU but in this case I don't think he meant it the way some are taking it.

[Xman95]

In the future think Jason Love when you classify players by how somebody rates them one through five stars. It is damn near impossible to predict what is in the heart of a 18-19-year-old kid.
Did anyone rate Jason Love when he came to Xavier overweight and needing a lot of work. The improvement of Jason Love over the last three years is not only a testimony to his work ethic and chracter, it is a testimony to Xavier.
Rating or ranking players before their college careers even start is just plain silly. Ponder if you will how long it took Drew Lavender to adjust to Xavier, how long it took Lloyd Price, one of the highest ranked players ever to come to X and never live up to his rating and if you want some non-Xavier ecamples. try UC's Dumbtonio Wingfield, and even Lance "Born Ready" Stevenson has yet to live up to his "rating." :D

I agree to an extent. People often put too much stock in how many stars a player has. Well, those stars are never a guarantee of how the player will turn out. My post was actually saying something similar...whether 3- or 5-stars, it doesn't mean a player will work any harder. It all depends on the individual and those around him.

That being said, some stock should be put into the recruiting tools. I mean, there's a reason they exist. But too often we think the stars actually tell us what we're getting when the end product is ultimately determined by the player.

[bobbiemcgee]

Yes... I was there. It was Miller's weekly news conference a couple of weeks ago.

Oh yeah, he's a Sports Writer:

http://tucsoncitizen.com/wildcatreport/author/wildcatreport/