Who has the most delusional fan base?

[beatuc]

Does UC or Dayton have the most delusional fan base? Both fan bases are pretty bad and like to re-live moments that happened mostly before they were born. By reading and hearing from both fan bases I have come to the conclusion that neither is in-touch with reality, or even close for that matter.

- Dayton fans think they are so talented and a dangerouse team come tourney time(if they even get in) once they put it together.
- Dayton fans think that they have one of the most talented starting five in the country(with a mule playing center and a PG who couldn't shoot over me) and would challenge any roster's first five.
- Dayton fans think just because they beat WVU in the tournament last year, they somehow arrived as a national power.
- Dayton fans think that the current domination by X over them is purely luck, and has nothing to do with X having a lot better talent and coaching.



- UC fans think just because they won two titles in the 60's and a final four in the early 90's that they are still relevant in college basketball.
- UC fans think that just because they play in the Big East they are a better program than X.
- UC fans think that their roster was so much more talented than X's this year that there was no reason they shouldn't have blown X out.
- UC fans think that their football program is now on par with Ohio State's.

So who's is worse?

[PM Thor]

dayton fans, no doubt. They talk so much crap and just don't back it up.

UC fans are more concerned with football anyway, and they aren't showing up for their games either.

I HATE dayton.

[OSUMuskie]

Well since we're talking delusional I'd have to go with UD since their fans are always the ones running their mouths. If we're talking about not being on the same planet then I would, without hesitation, put a write in vote for the UK fan base, but that's a whole different story.

[Xavier]

UC fans--When I brag about Xavier to them they always have great comebacks with how great the conference they are in is and I guess they think thats better then making the tournament every year like Xavier. Bunch of clowns

[Statman]

I harken back to the chat on ESPN where the Dayton fan asked Dana O'Neill if she thought Dayton would win out . . . maybe the better question would be, "Dana, do you see Dayton winning in the A10 again this year? And do you agree with me that the Flyers have passed the Musketeers as a program, since we were the pre-season favorites this year?"

[Xpectations]

UC fans--When I brag about Xavier to them they always have great comebacks with how great the conference they are in is and I guess they think thats better then making the tournament every year like Xavier. Bunch of clowns

I always think those conference responses are humorous too. It's like saying, "Sure, I suck but my dad can beat up your dad."

The inference is that we get in The Dancebecause we're in the A-10. The reality is that we get in The Dance in spite of it -- meaning we've only needed the automatic bid one time (the '04-'05 season as a #14 seed) since joining the A-10.

Every other season we've been an at-large-level seed, even if we won the A-10 Tournament to receive it's auto-bid. We have had to overcome the conference's weaker SOS in the earlier years of joining it. In recent years though we've scheduled such a strong OOC SOS that we end up with a better SOS than a large number of BCS conference teams.

Still, I don't consider all that delusional. Most at least acknowledge that their team currently sucks and really hasn't done much for the past 10 years (even during the final Huggs years).

[joebba]

UD. They attend the games well year after year despite the disappointments year after year.

UC fans practically abandon the team after Hugs is fired.

[BBC 08]

I always think those conference responses are humorous too. It's like saying, "Sure, I suck but my dad can beat up your dad."

The inference is that we get in The Dancebecause we're in the A-10. The reality is that we get in The Dance in spite of it -- meaning we've only needed the automatic bid one time (the '04-'05 season as a #14 seed) since joining the A-10.

Every other season we've been an at-large-level seed, even if we won the A-10 Tournament to receive it's auto-bid. We have had to overcome the conference's weaker SOS in the earlier years of joining it. In recent years though we've scheduled such a strong OOC SOS that we end up with a better SOS than a large number of BCS conference teams.

Still, I don't consider all that delusional. Most at least acknowledge that their team currently sucks and really hasn't done much for the past 10 years (even during the final Huggs years).

It was 05-06 season. 04-05 was Miller's first year in which he finished 17-12 and didn't make the tournament.

[xutag77]

Dayton is a small town that thinks its big, Cincinnati is a big town that thinks its small.

[Pete Delkus]

Dayton - No doubt.

UC - When the going got tough, the tough shaved their 'UC Thuggy Bear' mullet.

[Muskie]

I'd say every fan base has the potential to be delusional.

[DC Muskie]

I'd say every fan base has the potential to be delusional.

Not true, Xavier is the greatest program in the country. We have the best resources, the best players, the best fans, the tv package, the best radio package, the best mascot, the best cheerleaders, the best conference, the best away uniforms, the best coaches, the best marketing deal, the best ball toss, the best beer sales, the best parking.

We are not delusional.

[Muskie]

Not true, Xavier is the greatest program in the country. We have the best resources, the best players, the best fans, the tv package, the best radio package, the best mascot, the best cheerleaders, the best conference, the best away uniforms, the best coaches, the best marketing deal, the best ball toss, the best beer sales, the best parking.

We are not delusional.

:eek: haha... nice post.

[PeterG]

Dayton fans are the most...

But Kentucky fans, if we included them are pretty delusional.

Here's a funny series of posting from the K board this morning...after their undefeated team was finally ranked No. 1, but lost to South Carolina last night:

Poster 1: When SC was asked where their motivation came from they answered..."Coach put pictures up in our locker room of Sarah Palin. He said if we won she would call us on the phone."

Poster 2: Ridiculous post. Not even funny.

Poster 3: Who's Sarah Palin? LOL!!!!!!

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

UD

"With a little more of something(s), we could be 20-0. " http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12703

"I personally do not think there are many teams that have a better starting 5 than UD" http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12696

"I think it would take 100 pounds to slow CJ down. He should be one of the top 4 players this year, and may have been last year." http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11018

"Now, BG has every player and recruit coming in and buying into it because they've seen the results. IMO, this program is close to being at it's highest point in history, and it's a beautiful thing to see." http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11091

"I truly believe this is going to be a special year. The kids deserve it, the fans deserve it and the city deserves it. From all I have read, this team is on a mission to excell." http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11091

"there is actually a link to this article on the main page of espn near the bottom with the title "Will Dayton Finally Get Some Respect?"

Answer:well our 2009-2010 Final Four appearance should help" http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11091

"You know it's going to be a good season when the x fans feel they have to get all their trash talk in before the games are actually played." http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11182

"Give him(Kavanaugh) some time! I've also seen basicly all of his games as a high school player and see him dominate some one of the best big men in the country without getting into foul trouble" http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11134

"Yes it is a great day to be a flyer, and return to the big time." http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11155

"West Virginia is getting incredible predictions that they could take the Big Least. they certainly have good players, but if they are ranked top 20, then we are Top 10. Go UD Baby!" http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11245

"It occurs to me that for the first time in a long time, I have no doubt that Dayton should finish 1st in the A10.
Better yet, on Saturday, the best Dayton team in my life time will take the court. It's going to be a fun and exciting year.
These guys might not win every game this year, but they are capable of doing just that. This could shape up to be an unforgettable year." http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11330

"Villanova quite different team from last year....much more guard-centric, with no real beef in middle. Speed is one of our strengths, so the matchup really does work in our favor. If we can limit turnovers from pg position, i like our chances. Look for CW to explode, no one near as athletic in their frontcourt. Now is the time he can make a (national) statement.....

We are.....UD!!" http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11536

"I think that for the first time in a long time, we actually have a legitimate shot at beating Xavier in Cinci." http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12428

"Dayton Flyers- 75
Norwood Community College 71

The last memories of Jimmy Carter fade away" http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12433

"Possible rematch against Nova in the 2nd round and G-Tech in the sweet 16. We should coast into the Elite" http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11324&highlight=elite

[DC Muskie]

UD

"It occurs to me that for the first time in a long time, I have no doubt that Dayton should finish 1st in the A10.
Better yet, on Saturday, the best Dayton team in my life time will take the court. It's going to be a fun and exciting year.
These guys might not win every game this year, but they are capable of doing just that. This could shape up to be an unforgettable year." http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11330


Please read out loud the second response on this thread and tell me you don't burst out laughing.

I feel so so sorry for our friends up north.

[94GRAD]

http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12712

[paulxu]

http://udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12712

I'm not sure there's room enough on this board to note all the delusion on their board. And in that thread I think we are refered to as the "blue people". I like that!

But the last commentator on that thread pretty much sums up the state of their program:

"The sense of entitlement here really is making me hate UD fans. And I am one."

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

UC

"22 W in the regular season schedule. 2 W in BE tourney. 1 W in NCAA tourney. 25 W overall.Or better."
http://forums.bearcatnews.com/showthread.php?t=5066

"Top 5 in the Big East. Top 6 at worst. Top 25 team all year long. Between a 5-8 seed . At least second round in the dance. Sweet 16 very possible." http://forums.bearcatnews.com/showthread.php?t=5066

"I'll say 26 wins" http://forums.bearcatnews.com/showthread.php?t=5066

"This is the year.

25+ wins
top four in the Big East
3-5 seed in the NCAA tourney
sweet sixteen or better finish
top 25 most of the year" http://forums.bearcatnews.com/showthread.php?t=5066

"intimidate,dominate,celebrate, the cats will be back this yr!!!!!!!!!!!! The bearcats have slowly improved each season under MC, now its time to take it to the next level!!! 22-24 wins top, 4 BEast, sweet 16!!!!!!" http://forums.bearcatnews.com/showthread.php?t=5066&page=2

"UC will NEVER be down by one with 5 seconds on the clock with Born Ready on the team!" http://forums.bearcatnews.com/showthread.php?t=5115

"Just curious what everyone is predicting and exprecting from this team.
I believe this is a legitimate top 4 team in the Big East. I expect atleast a trip to the Sweet 16" http://forums.bearcatnews.com/showthread.php?t=6370

"30-7

3rd Place Big East (14-4)

Final 4 - Deonta carries the team home to Indy for his last game!" http://forums.bearcatnews.com/showthread.php?t=6370

[xubrew]

- UC fans think just because they won two titles in the 60's and a final four in the early 90's that they are still relevant in college basketball.

judging by what i've seen of the attendance, i'm not so sure uc fans think they're still relevant in the city of cincinnati, much less all of college basketball.

dayton fans are more dellusional...by far.

[Cheesehead]

I don't really need a poll to confirm what I already knew about UD fans. It's beyond comical and besides, UC is a football school. Haven't you heard?

[Titanxman04]

Alright, seeing as I may be biased as I am living with three UD grads and basically their girlfriends/fiances...

They are WAAAAY more delusional.

For one, they believed they had a solid schedule put in place. Obviously thats wrong, because it's hurting them now.

They think that Brian Gregory is a good coach....especially in game. They are happy with what he's brought to the program and honestly fear him leaving for a bigger job. Really? One tourny win... How many A-10 championships? And they then rip on Mack and Miller, saying they were/are over-rated.

They think Christ Wright is Jesus (No lie, they really refer to him as Jesus).

Thats all I've got for now.

On a side note, we had a new roommate from Canada move in. He does not look like this:

http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/05/Canada_iPod_Settlement.jpg

But they took him to the Rhode Island game last night, and spent the evening filing his mind about awful things about X. Once they came home, I quikcy corrected him. The NBA players, consecutive seniors graduated, championships, etc.. He wants to go to the game tomorrow. We need Canadian flags there and Maple Leafs to swing him to our side. Who's in?

[SixFig]

But they took him to the Rhode Island game last night, and spent the evening filing his mind about awful things about X. Once they came home, I quikcy corrected him. The NBA players, consecutive seniors graduated, championships, etc.. He wants to go to the game tomorrow. We need Canadian flags there and Maple Leafs to swing him to our side. Who's in?

Our club hockey team will beat their club hockey team.

And the Mounties are the Musketeers of Canada, eh?

http://esask.uregina.ca/management/app/assets/img/enc2/selectedbig/51C3A9B3-1560-95DA-437C133B6E92171B.jpg

EDIT: I think Ludacris said it best: "I used to think that it was way too cold til I went to Canada and saw some beautiful hoes,"

[rhyno2110]

dayton fans... end of discussion

[picknroll]

By far, Obama the has the most delusional fan base.

[bobbiemcgee]

El Rushbo, Glenn Beck and Snipe.

[BandAid]

I pride myself on being delusional (Xavier is always pciked to win the NCAAs in my brackets), but to put it into baseball terms: I'm a AAA has-been compared to the perennial All-Stars up 75.

[cwxu02]

Dayton fans no doubt. Dayton fans honestly think, as a program, they are not that far off from X. Of course I always take it as a compliment that we are what they strive to be. I always like to ask the neutral fan (not fans of X or Dayton) what they think of the two programs. Most laugh at the Dayton fans for even thinking they fit in the same sentence as us.

X strives to be the UConn, Cuses, Mich States of the world...Dayton strives to be us!

[coasterville95]

On a side note, we had a new roommate from Canada move in. He does not look like this:

http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/05/Canada_iPod_Settlement.jpg

But they took him to the Rhode Island game last night, and spent the evening filing his mind about awful things about X. Once they came home, I quikcy corrected him. The NBA players, consecutive seniors graduated, championships, etc.. He wants to go to the game tomorrow. We need Canadian flags there and Maple Leafs to swing him to our side. Who's in?

I have a Canadian flag in my flag collection, but how will its appearance help the Musketeer cause?

[coasterville95]

I had to vote UD. My experience with real UC fans, meaning not the ones that hide behind a screen name taking potshots on message boards, is that true red UC fans despise their coach more than we do. (Shoot, we want him signed to an iron clad long term contract, right? Along with Gregory?) They are also now pretty realistic in realizing that the current Bearcat team isn't going to cut it.

[vee4xu]

So, with all of this talk about ud fans, where is the always congenial, yet moderately disagreeable Adam the Flyer (sarcasm intended here)? That guy is a joke! He comes around here and plays nice-nice when things are going well, let me rephrase, he thinks thinks will go well for ud. Yet, when his team hits the crapper nowhere to be found.

Come out of your hole Adam. You are here reading this stuff and not replying. Grow a pair, man-up and tell us what you think of your vaunted flyers now. Yeah, that's what I thought. Loser.

[rhyno2110]

So, with all of this talk about ud fans, where is the always congenial, yet moderately disagreeable Adam the Flyer (sarcasm intended here)? That guy is a joke! He comes around here and plays nice-nice when things are going well, let me rephrase, he thinks thinks will go well for ud. Yet, when his team hits the crapper nowhere to be found.

Come out of your hole Adam. You are here reading this stuff and not replying. Grow a pair, man-up and tell us what you think of your vaunted flyers now. Yeah, that's what I thought. Loser.

I love it!

I kind of want to make a thread on udpride with a link to this thread just to piss ud fans off more. It's so fun to keep slamming them into the ground.

[KabeX]

So I'm driving from Detroit to Chicago tonight and had an accident just west of Kalamazo (some young punk going way too fast for the slippery conditions spun out in front of me and we both ended up in a ditch - me after hitting a very large tree). After all the crap and check out at a local hospital, I'm finally in a hotel in Paw Paw (yes Paw Paw), MI. So of course I crank up the net and check out XH as my priorities were not injured in the accident. But, now I'm laughing my ass off at this thread. AND IT HURTS! Bruised ribs - noting too bad. But it was just too damn funny. I'd rep all of you if I could. Thanks for the comic relief!

[PM Thor]

So I'm driving from Detroit to Chicago tonight and had an accident just west of Kalamazo (some young punk going way too fast for the slippery conditions spun out in front of me and we both ended up in a ditch - me after hitting a very large tree). After all the crap and check out at a local hospital, I'm finally in a hotel in Paw Paw (yes Paw Paw), MI. So of course I crank up the net and check out XH as my priorities were not injured in the accident. But, now I'm laughing my ass off at this thread. AND IT HURTS! Bruised ribs - noting too bad. But it was just too damn funny. I'd rep all of you if I could. Thanks for the comic relief!

I bet the other driver was a dayton fan.

Why? Because he had an excuse for why he wrecked.

I HATE dayton.

[KabeX]

I bet the other driver was a dayton fan.

Why? Because he had an excuse for why he wrecked.

I HATE dayton.

Ouch! That hurt again. Actually he's prob a Michigan Fan since he was coming from Ann Arbor. Prob thought BCS had a God given right to the road.

[X-man]

Every program has its share of delusional fans, but the UC fans who post to their boards seem to generally be pretty clear-eyed about their program even if they are less realistic about the quality of their prograam relative to the Muskies. UD fans, on the other hand, seem to me to be delusional across the board (with some exceptions on the A10 board). So in my view, the cryers fans win this poll hands-down.

[BandAid]

UC fans need to step up their game. They're getting destroyed in this poll.

[CinciX12]

Dayton fans for sure! I can't wait to make the trip up there and watch the game next weekend. Its always amazing how we get treated. Incest white trash.

[94GRAD]

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It's where you set the bar...

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It't true that college teams win about 70% of the time at home and lose more than 50% of the time on the road.

But we're not talking about "college teams". We are talking about the University of Dayton...and for UD the bar is much higher than it is for "college teams". Div 1 "college teams" do not put 12,500 fannies in the seats for every home game; they do not state as an objective being consistently good enough to compete for the national championship; the importance of their basketball team to overall school objectives does not warrant attention is the school's report on strategic objectives.

A half century of tradition and our legacy establishes the bar at a high level. The university administration welcomes that and does not shy away. Indeed, it invests accordingly...does all it can to clear that bar.

That being the case, we cannot, should not compare ourselves to other "colleges". Our peer group, given where the bar is positioned, is the Top 25 programs in the country. In fact, when the season began everyone thought we were in that group.

The won/loss perecentages at home and away for the Top 25, based on their RPIs as of today are as follows: Winning percentage at home, 93%.....away from home, 66%. I doubt if those figures will chnage significantly by year end; in fact, I'll bet those numbers are typical of most years.

The Flyers meet the Top 25 test when at home, almost always winning more than 90% of the time and sometimes 100%. But, we do not come close to meeting the standard of the Top 25 when on the road,....ever! I think to meet our annual objectives we simply must win half of our road games. Less than half is not enough for us to be where we want to be. Clearly, getting to where we want to be means we've got to focus on our road problems.

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Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[danaandvictory]

they do not state as an objective being consistently good enough to compete for the national championship;

Just to emphasize this point -- this is a program that has won one NCAA tournament game in the last 20 years. How completely up their own asses are these people?

[Fear the Cough]

But we're not talking about "college teams". We are talking about the University of Dayton...and for UD the bar is much higher than it is for "college teams".

I dont understand why they think that they have an elite program. No one outside of Dayton believes they have an elite program, i just dont get it...

[IVANHOE]

http://www.udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13185

You want delusional?

now they are talking about Brad Stevens being the new coach at Dayton!

No way, NO WAY, would Stevens ever leave butler for Dayton

LOL

[IVANHOE]

In D1 ball, consistency year-by-year is one of the hardest things to achieve. Look at the Xavier coaches. They are a true mark of coaching excellence. It really hurts to say that as a UD fan, but their program makes ours look pathetic in all reality.

Finally, a non delusional Dayton Fan.

[Kahns Krazy]

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It's where you set the bar...

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It't true that college teams win about 70% of the time at home and lose more than 50% of the time on the road.
...

My brain asploded trying to figure out how approximately 20% of NCAA basketball games somehow end with both teams winning.

[Kahns Krazy]

By the way, I am one of the 8 that voted for UC. Several UC fans I know do not think Cronin is a yellow toothed gnome. Some days, the sky isn't blue, but every day, Mick is an angry jaundiced leprechaun.

[Snipe]

My brain asploded trying to figure out how approximately 20% of NCAA basketball games somehow end with both teams winning.

That is because you didn't factor in neutral court games, where teams only lose 45% of the time.