No stopwatches for UC game

[stophorseabuse]

Shot clock accidentally reset in UC game down the stretch prob. should have been a shot clock violation. Instead, refs look at it and estimate about 1 sec. on the shotclock. HOW ABOUT SOME F'N CONSISTENCY WITH OFFICIATING. CHRIST.

[stophorseabuse]

Jesus Christ, Cahil is basketball's worst fukin official, ever. A f'n thief.

At the end he decided to save face by changing who he called the foul on. Just like the shot clock situation, didn't want to disappoint the home team. Much like the Ohio St. game and refusal to call the INT on Oden.

[BiggieXU]

Jesus Christ, Cahil is basketball's worst fukin official, ever. A f'n thief.

At the end he decided to save face by changing who he called the foul on. Just like the shot clock situation, didn't want to disappoint the home team. Much like the Ohio St. game and refusal to call the INT on Oden.
Yup, based on when his arm went up the game shoulda gone to OT.

[xavierj]

Yeah he gave UC a gift. But I guess that is good for Xavier. UCONN is vastly overrated.

[bjf123]

On the first replay they showed in real time with sound, I thought the whistle sounded before the horn.

[AdamtheFlyer]

I think he got the time right, but I didn't see a foul. Edwards had all ball up top, and the contact down low didn't disrupt Stephenson in any way.

[chico]

Refs were pretty whistle happy the entire game. Listening to the sound the whistle blew just before the horn went off.

[xsteve1]

I think he got the time right, but I didn't see a foul. Edwards had all ball up top, and the contact down low didn't disrupt Stephenson in any way.

Definite no call in that situation. Cahill thinks he's bigger than the game.

[Hownowbrowncow]

I think he got the time right, but I didn't see a foul. Edwards had all ball up top, and the contact down low didn't disrupt Stephenson in any way.

How about the left arm across his chest? The defender had the right hand on the ball but his left arm went across Stephenson's chest. The right call was made.

[AdamtheFlyer]

How about the left arm across his chest? The defender had the right hand on the ball but his left arm went across Stephenson's chest. The right call was made.

Simple contact isn't a foul. Whatever contact Edwards made didn't disrupt Stephenson's shot or the path of his momentum. Very ticky-tack call.

[GoMuskies]

This shouldn't even count as a win for UC and a loss for Uconn. I mean, this was clearly UC's Superbowl, and UConn really had nothing to gain.

[Masterofreality]

This shouldn't even count as a win for UC and a loss for Uconn. I mean, this was clearly UC's Superbowl, and UConn really had nothing to gain.

Nice, Go.

Whatever. SucKS is semi dead to me. All I know is X83-79. The Borecats win a few games, it helps our RPI. They lose, I laugh.

It's a win-win.

BTW UCon hadn't played a true road game yet this year. Neither has Syracuse. Please selection committee, call BS on that.

[xavierj]

Nice, Go.

Whatever. SucKS is semi dead to me. All I know is X83-79. The Borecats win a few games, it helps our RPI. They lose, I laugh.

It's a win-win.

BTW UCon hadn't played a true road game yet this year. Neither has Syracuse. Please selection committee, call BS on that.

UCONN's best win is LSU and that is not saying much. They have beat no one. I guess they are in a rebuilding year. They will be lucky to go .500 in the Big Least.

[X-band '01]

BTW UCon hadn't played a true road game yet this year. Neither has Syracuse. Please selection committee, call BS on that.




My best advice to you - shut up.


I'm going to agree with Jimmy here.

[PM Thor]

I've seen the replay about 10 times now. I still have yet to see the foul that was called.

I HATE dayton.

[SlimKibbles]

I've seen the replay about 10 times now. I still have yet to see the foul that was called.

I HATE dayton.

If there was a foul on that sequence, it was right inside the 3-point line with a reach-in by Dyson, I think. I don't think Edwards or the other kid fouled Stephenson when he was driving the lane. Pretty lame. I'll take the W as helping X's RPI though.

[Snipe]

Nice, Go.

Whatever. SucKS is semi dead to me. All I know is X83-79. The Borecats win a few games, it helps our RPI. They lose, I laugh.

It's a win-win.

BTW UCon hadn't played a true road game yet this year. Neither has Syracuse. Please selection committee, call BS on that.

I root for them because we need all the RPI help we can get and I am nervous. I would like them to be a big win for us. But when they lose I never feel bad. I am with you on that. I am glad when they win because it makes us look better, and I am glad when they lose too. It is a win-win every game they play. Can't wait for Mick's third straight late season collapse...it is going to be comical.

To their credit, they do have talent. I think they could contend for the Big East and that is saying something. And Yancy Gates is a physical specimen. If that kid had a work ethic and some drive the sky would be the limit. You can see a dull glazed over look in his eyes. Like he is biding his time. WTF? For what are you waiting for? He could be a player.

[xavierj]

I root for them because we need all the RPI help we can get and I am nervous. I would like them to be a big win for us. But when they lose I never feel bad. I am with you on that. I am glad when they win because it makes us look better, and I am glad when they lose too. It is a win-win every game they play. Can't wait for Mick's third straight late season collapse...it is going to be comical.

To their credit, they do have talent. I think they could contend for the Big East and that is saying something. And Yancy Gates is a physical specimen. If that kid had a work ethic and some drive the sky would be the limit. You can see a dull glazed over look in his eyes. Like he is biding his time. WTF? For what are you waiting for? He could be a player.

If they contend for the Big East then the Big East blows. UC was better 3 years ago. I can see them going 8-10 in the Big East this year. Don't buy the Cincy media hype.

[Snipe]

If they contend for the Big East then the Big East blows. UC was better 3 years ago. I can see them going 8-10 in the Big East this year. Don't buy the Cincy media hype.

I am not buying the Cincy media hype. I don't spend my time reading any articles on the Bearcats. I don't know what the media is saying in the first place, so I can't buy the hype.

I do think that they have talent and inexerience. With more experience if things come together they could be very good just from watching them. I wouldn't mind if Cincy was the signature win that got us dancing either.

[D-West & PO-Z]

That Thomas dude, the transfer from ok state, is Terrible.

[Juice]

That Thomas dude, the transfer from ok state, is Terrible.

But he is supposed to be the final piece to their team just like Mike Williams was

[Masterofreality]

The "yellow toothed gnome" posing as a Borecat coach on the sideline is really tearing it up on recruiting. Let's review their "big recruits":

-Biggie McLain- Can barely get off the bench
-Yancey Gates- Lazy and slow. XU walked away from him. KFrease abuses him every time they play.
-Cashmere Wright- All the SucKS apologists claimed last year that his injury killed their season. Wrong. This kid is London Warren reincarnated. No shot and horrible decision making.
-Lance Stephenson - Fell into gnome's lap after no one else would touch him. A player, but one and done.
-Ibrahima Thomas- A skinny stiff. Wouldn't have left the bench at Oklahoma State. A 6:11 guy who can't rebound.
-Steve Toyloy- A hatchet foul machine. Think Sean Finn with skin pigment.
-Dion Dixon- A 6:3 guard who shoots 22% from 3. That's quality.
-Jaquon Parker- Who? Can't get off the bench.
- Sean Kilpatrick (edit) - Guard. "Star" of the Deveroes Summer League. So good he's been redshirted.

Yep. The future of Borecat basketball is bright.

Time check- It's 12:19pm on December 31, 2009, and uc still SucKS!

[Juice]

-Cashmere Wright- All the SucKS apologists claimed last year that his injury killed their season. Wrong. This kid is London Warren reincarnated. No shot and horrible decision making.

-Ibrahima Thomas- A skinny stiff. Wouldn't have left the bench at Oklahoma State. A 6:11 guy who can't rebound.

Yep. The future of Borecat basketball is bright.

Time check- It's 12:19pm on December 31, 2009, and uc still SucKS!

I think its hilarious looking back on all the things UC fans were saying about Cashmere, and how he would be their true PG so that Vaughn could move to SG. Cashmere is farther behind both Holloway and Cheeks in talent and overall play. Cashmere will be abused for his next 3 years by X's point guards.

Thomas was more or less kicked out of Oklahoma State. So much like Lance, they got lucky in getting him. But I don't know if lucky is the word because he sucks.

[hipsterdoofus]

http://www.basketballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=403

[xu05usmc]

The "yellow toothed gnome" posing as a Borecat coach on the sideline is really tearing it up on recruiting. Let's review their "big recruits":

-Biggie McLain- Can barely get off the bench
-Yancey Gates- Lazy and slow. XU walked away from him. KFrease abuses him every time they play.
-Cashmere Wright- All the SucKS apologists claimed last year that his injury killed their season. Wrong. This kid is London Warren reincarnated. No shot and horrible decision making.
-Lance Stephenson - Fell into gnome's lap after no one else would touch him. A player, but one and done.
-Ibrahima Thomas- A skinny stiff. Wouldn't have left the bench at Oklahoma State. A 6:11 guy who can't rebound.
-Steve Toyloy- A hatchet foul machine. Think Sean Finn with skin pigment.
-Dion Dixon- A 6:3 guard who shoots 22% from 3. That's quality.
-Jaquon Parker- Who? Can't get off the bench.
- Sean Kilpatrick (edit) - Guard. "Star" of the Deveroes Summer League. So good he's been redshirted.

Yep. The future of Borecat basketball is bright.

Time check- It's 12:19pm on December 31, 2009, and uc still SucKS!

A few complaints:
-Gates is anything but lazy and slow, XU did not walk away from him, he just chose UC. You cannot say that he wouldn't make XU better. He was All-Frosh last year in the Big Least, regardless of how "overrated" that conference is, it still says something.
-Thomas probably needs time to adjust like most transfers, yeah he basically got kicked off OK St. (where he started), but can't the same be said about Lavendar and CJ Anderson?
-Wright (as well as Mike Williams)- both tore major tendons (Wright: ACL, Williams: achilles), from everything I've heard about this, it takes a full 2 years to recover and gain the strength back from those types of injuries (look at Darnell Williams).
-Kilpatrick is being redshirted sure, but wasn't DBrown redshirted too? Doesn't mean much.
-As far as Stephenson the only school that officially withdrew interest in him was Maryland after they effed up his recruitment.

Sorry but I just hate ignorant posts. UC's future is bright regardless of whether we want to admit it or not. Besides wouldn't that be something we'd want? A quality RPI boosting win over a major conference opponent year in and out?

[SlimKibbles]

That Thomas dude, the transfer from ok state, is Terrible.

Cronin sure seems to love him though by the way he was calmly giving him some teaching lessons from the sideline.

[stophorseabuse]

USMC,

1.) Xavier did not walk away from Gates, but he is clearly lazy and unmotivated. So that is a part truth.

2.) Good point with Thomas and Anderson, not exactly sure with Lavender, there were always a lot of questions about that.

3.) Many Many schools withdrew interest in Stephenson. His only major offer in the end was UC.

Yes there was some BS posted, but there was also a lot of truth. Stephenson had basically no other major D-1 schools to choose from.

[Masterofreality]

A few complaints:
-Gates is anything but lazy and slow, XU did not walk away from him, he just chose UC. You cannot say that he wouldn't make XU better. He was All-Frosh last year in the Big Least, regardless of how "overrated" that conference is, it still says something.
-Thomas probably needs time to adjust like most transfers, yeah he basically got kicked off OK St. (where he started), but can't the same be said about Lavendar and CJ Anderson?
-Wright (as well as Mike Williams)- both tore major tendons (Wright: ACL, Williams: achilles), from everything I've heard about this, it takes a full 2 years to recover and gain the strength back from those types of injuries (look at Darnell Williams).
-Kilpatrick is being redshirted sure, but wasn't DBrown redshirted too? Doesn't mean much.
-As far as Stephenson the only school that officially withdrew interest in him was Maryland after they effed up his recruitment.

Sorry but I just hate ignorant posts. UC's future is bright regardless of whether we want to admit it or not. Besides wouldn't that be something we'd want? A quality RPI boosting win over a major conference opponent year in and out?


A) Gates is lazy and slow. And...once the Big Frease committed, XU's interest in Gates cooled considerably. Who would you rather have? I'll take KFrease. He outplays Gates every time on head to head.
B) Thomas was "kicked off" OK State. That is some endorsement. Time to adjust? How about the fact that he was practicing with the team the whole second half of last year even if he wasn't playing? How much "adjustment" time does he need? Seems as if CJ and DLav didn't take very long to "adjust". Thomas has shown nothing so far- especially rebounding for a 6:11 player. Rebounding takes no time to "adjust" to.
C) Wright's decision making has nothing to to with his knees. Passing the ball directly to the other team has nothing to do with knee recovery. If he's not physically able to play, he shouldn't be in there. The yellow toothed gnome thinks he's healthy enough. He's already gone through at least 60 practices of two hours each plus the games.
D) Kilpatrick is a guard who was supposed to be a player. DBrown was a forward. Totally different scenario. Big guys have to grow into their bodies. Guards are typically ready. THolloway wasn't redshirted nor was Dante Jackson. Guys who are supposed to be players aren't redshirted. Period.
E) Nice use of semantics to hide the issues with Stephenson. The only "official" withdrawal was Maryland. Well there were multiple "unofficial" withdrawals who, after looking at Stephenson's situation declined to offer. Anyway, I said the kid's a player. What is the point?

If you hate ignorant posts, how about analyzing yours? About the worst takes and comparisons I have ever seen on this board. The Borecats future is most assurredly NOT bright. Vaughan, the main scoring guard is gone after this year with no apparent replacement. Stephenson, the only other "go to" guy is also gone after this year. Toyloy is gone. Pray tell out of the group that SucKS has who will make their future "bright"?

A SucKS troll apologist in disguise? Quite possibly.

[DoubleD86]

A) Gates is lazy and slow. And...once the Big Frease committed, XU's interest in Gates cooled considerably. Who would you rather have? I'll take KFrease. He outplays Gates every time on head to head.
B) Thomas was "kicked off" OK State. That is some endorsement. Time to adjust? How about the fact that he was practicing with the team the whole second half of last year even if he wasn't playing? How much "adjustment" time does he need? Seems as if CJ and DLav didn't take very long to "adjust". Thomas has shown nothing so far- especially rebounding for a 6:11 player. Rebounding takes no time to "adjust" to.

MOR while I love reading your posts, I have to really disagree with these two points (and ONLY these two points) of your post.

First, while Frease did commit first and there may have been some cooling (which I saw no evidence of) you can not say X would not have taken Gates as well. In fact, I remember specifically all the posts arguing having Frease would HELP get Gates because Gates did not want to be a Center and with Frease in we could sell him on always playing the 4. While I agree he has shown laziness and slowness, he is still only a Sophmore and haven't we heard much of the same (in regards to speed) things about Frease. I love Frease, but I would love to have Frease AND Gates.

Second, you can not honestly say "How much 'adjustment' time does he need?" and think you are making a point. I don't remember CJ, but Lavender took half a year to get the rust off. Hell, right now we are talking about how Crawford needs/needed time to knock the rust off and get back into the flow of playing. Didn't he have a full year of practicing with the team?

I in no way think Thomas will be a huge game-changer for UC, but I do think he needs time to be able to get back into the flow and knock the rust off, and when that happens it should give UC a nice role player who can rebound and stretch the defense as well as give them some depth at the 4/5 positions.

Edit: This is not directed towards you specifically MOR but at the board in general. I understand the hatred towards UD and UC (and share in most of those feelings...especially UD) but it seems as if it is against the unwritten rules on this board to post anything non-anti-UC or UD. I just want you to know that this semi-pro UC post does not mean I am a UC Troll, I am most definitely an obsessed XU fan.

[Masterofreality]

No problem DD.

There was speculation on this board about the potential influence that Big Frease would have on other recruiting, but that was speculation only. Trust me, that with Freser in the fold, and with JLove, DBrown, and CJ also on the front line for 2009, the intensity for Gates went down considerably. The staff was already hot on Parrom, and no one on the staff at that time thought that Brown would leave early. We were more in need of guards at that time than big people. With Raccoon's departure and him taking two big recruits with him along with DBrown leaving, we are now a bit short, but thyat couldn't have been forseen.

As to Thomas and Crawford. Thomas has done nothing against everybody. Crawford started out averaging over 18 points per game early and that average has held up. His adjustments are more to getting more acclimated to his teammates rather than showing talent and effort. Here's a stat. Rebounds=effort. Crawford is averaging 4.7 rebounds per game. Thomas is averaging 4.0. Thomas is 6:11. JCraw is 6:4.

DD, You and I just may agree to disagree on the value of Thomas. So far, all I've seen that Thomas can do is yap.

[DoubleD86]

DD, You and I just may agree to disagree on the value of Thomas. So far, all I've seen that Thomas can do is yap.

Very true, and you may very well be right. The one thing that I absolutely agree with you in terms of Thomas is that rebounding = effort and he clearly hasn't shown too much of that (although I think he had like 9 or so against UConn).

Let's put it this way, I think we can both agree that Thomas being on the UC bench is nothing to be scared of.