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xu15
03-12-2011, 10:15 PM
Had 37 tonight in the regional finals....


I hope he re-commits soon

His team will play Dee Davis's team next week in the state semi's

I thought Davis' team already lost.

gladdenguy
03-12-2011, 10:30 PM
DSR's team North Central will play Bloomington South and Dee Davis next Saturday in the semi-states.

gladdenguy
03-12-2011, 10:36 PM
DSR with 37 tonight. God Bless.....kid can ball.

MuskiePimp23
03-12-2011, 10:47 PM
I thought Davis' team already lost.

No they won and Dee had 18 pts today...His team plays DSR's team next Saturday in the State Semi's.

Xavgrad08
03-12-2011, 11:17 PM
Does anyone know if Mack was there to watch DSR play? On Twitter he mentioned he was going to watch a highschool b ball game.

bourbonman
03-12-2011, 11:25 PM
watching the game on http://www.livestream.com/ihsaa

I wish DSR would recommit!!!

I wish he will do what's best for him. We'll be fine, so will he. Would be nice if it was together. But so be what it will be.

SixFig
03-12-2011, 11:31 PM
Does anyone know if Mack was there to watch DSR play? On Twitter he mentioned he was going to watch a highschool b ball game.

One recruiting expert on twitter said that Xavier was there too watch.. I'm bettng Mack and Steele

Jesuit4Life
03-13-2011, 12:36 PM
Does anyone know if Mack was there to watch DSR play? On Twitter he mentioned he was going to watch a highschool b ball game.

The "they better have precision timing" comment was to clue you in. ;)

Also: http://twitter.com/BSnowScout/status/46747238147428352

Benxman
03-14-2011, 09:32 PM
I watched the video of that game when DSR had 37 points. Boy, that kid can shoot it long. I think he is a better get than Gary Harris, from what I saw in that game, but both are excellent players.

Harris is more the athlete, with perhaps more upside, I'm not sure.
DSR is a pure shooter with decent athleticism and great Bball IQ. I like him better for X. Their is nothing that takes the place of good shooting. You've got to play good defense too, and I think DSR is plenty capable of doing just that.

Go get him Chris and Travis!

GO MUSKIES!

:sword:

SixFig
03-19-2011, 04:28 PM
Dee Davis vs. DSR live.

Watch it online here

http://www.livestream.com/ihsaa

CinciX12
03-20-2011, 09:02 AM
You can either join him or get beat by him DSR..the choice is yours..

xufan02
03-20-2011, 09:44 AM
Still would love to have DSR in a Xavier uniform. It will be interesting to see what happens. I expect to see a few more of the 2012 Indiana kids decide soon, wonder if it will speed up DSR's process.

JimmyTwoTimes37
03-24-2011, 07:31 PM
Looks like our buddy up north Thad Matta is intensifying his efforts to recruit D'vauntes along with A.J. Hammons and DeJuan Marrero

Juice
04-12-2011, 09:31 AM
D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera (#32) on his favorite schools: “Texas, Baylor, UCLA and Georgetown are my favorites right now.”

Friggin great, just great

http://rushthecourt.net/2011/04/11/whos-got-next-a-recruiting-notebook/#more-36970

XUOWNSUC
04-12-2011, 09:45 AM
Damn. But why Baylor?

Juice
04-12-2011, 09:48 AM
Damn. But why Baylor?

Perry Jones is back this coming year. Quincy Miller and Deuce Bello, who are both big time prospects from the 2011 class, will be there. Who knows who will be there in 2012 but Scott Drew knows how to recruit (if you don't count the whole Hanner Parea ordeal).

MADXSTER
04-12-2011, 03:09 PM
In 2009-10 Baylor was in the Elite Eight.

PMI
04-12-2011, 03:32 PM
I've heard Baylor has some extremely shady shit going on down there that may eventually result in serious violations down the line. This is pure speculation based on nothing more than rumors, but it's probably not the most stable situation long-term if that's the case. I have followed Baylor off and on since they went through one of the ugliest scandals in the history of sports as far as I'm concerned. I actually did a paper on it awhile ago at X. I was always skeptical about how a program that was just destroyed in the worst possible way took so little time to not only return, but get to a level they'd never been at. It always just seemed suspicious and there have been multiple times that I read rumblings of things going on down there that aren't allowed, but at this point they are all rumors. Just doesn't smell right to me though.

Muskie1995
04-12-2011, 05:24 PM
Friggin great, just great

http://rushthecourt.net/2011/04/11/whos-got-next-a-recruiting-notebook/#more-36970

I wouldn't be too worried. I think he's just playing those schools some lip service since he's visiting them soon. He was quoted as recently as last week as being high on Xavier like he has always been.

Xman95
04-12-2011, 05:48 PM
Damn. But why Baylor?

They pay well.

Xman95
04-12-2011, 05:51 PM
I wouldn't be too worried. I think he's just playing those schools some lip service since he's visiting them soon. He was quoted as recently as last week as being high on Xavier like he has always been.

Honestly, at this point I'm not worried either way. I used to be concerned about this kid's decision but not so much anymore. If he wants to attend X, great. If he doesn't want to be here, I don't want him here. It would be more his loss than ours.

XUFan09
04-12-2011, 06:14 PM
I wouldn't be too worried. I think he's just playing those schools some lip service since he's visiting them soon. He was quoted as recently as last week as being high on Xavier like he has always been.

I missed that quote. Where did he say that?

Juice
04-12-2011, 08:23 PM
I've heard Baylor has some extremely shady shit going on down there that may eventually result in serious violations down the line. This is pure speculation based on nothing more than rumors, but it's probably not the most stable situation long-term if that's the case. I have followed Baylor off and on since they went through one of the ugliest scandals in the history of sports as far as I'm concerned. I actually did a paper on it awhile ago at X. I was always skeptical about how a program that was just destroyed in the worst possible way took so little time to not only return, but get to a level they'd never been at. It always just seemed suspicious and there have been multiple times that I read rumblings of things going on down there that aren't allowed, but at this point they are all rumors. Just doesn't smell right to me though.

This is my favorite story out of Baylor. They threatened to deport a recruit.

http://www.slamonline.com/online/college-hs/college/2010/10/report-baylor-coach-threatened-to-deport-recruit/

bobbiemcgee
04-12-2011, 08:32 PM
“Texas, Baylor, UCLA and Georgetown'. Odd since his mother said many times she thought he would play close to home so they could go to the games. When he considered prep schools, they decided they were too far away.

Juice
04-13-2011, 01:19 PM
http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/28495425


When it comes to recruiting, Smith-Rivera committed to Xavier in October before decommitting from the Musketeers in late December and reopening his recruitment.

“I just wanted to explore my options,” he said.

Chris Mack and company still have an edge on the rest of the suitors, though.

“I think Xavier has a leg up,” Smith-Rivera said. “They got on me early.”

Other schools in the mix include UCLA, Texas, Baylor, Miami (Fl.), Georgetown and Ohio State.

Expect the North Central (Ind.) product to take his time with his new decision – after he gets finished filling it up on the AAU circuit.

Xman95
04-13-2011, 09:57 PM
When it comes to recruiting, Smith-Rivera committed to Xavier in October before decommitting from the Musketeers in late December and reopening his recruitment.

“I just wanted to explore my options,” he said.

Chris Mack and company still have an edge on the rest of the suitors, though.

“I think Xavier has a leg up,” Smith-Rivera said. “They got on me early.”

Other schools in the mix include UCLA, Texas, Baylor, Miami (Fl.), Georgetown and Ohio State.

Expect the North Central (Ind.) product to take his time with his new decision – after he gets finished filling it up on the AAU circuit.


I seem to remember LBJ saying the Cavs had an advantage too!

Benxman
04-13-2011, 10:18 PM
DSR is a pure shooter. You can't have enough pure shooters. Redford will be leaving after 2012, and DSR would be more than a good replacement. Again, good shooting makes up for a lot of weaknesses. Go Mack and Co.

GO MUSKIES!

:sword:

JimmyTwoTimes37
04-13-2011, 10:20 PM
New Highlight Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAeoD4J9dFc&feature=player_embedded

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/dAeoD4J9dFc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

XMuskieFTW
04-13-2011, 11:26 PM
DSR is a pure shooter. You can't have enough pure shooters. Redford will be leaving after 2012, and DSR would be more than a good replacement. Again, good shooting makes up for a lot of weaknesses. Go Mack and Co.

GO MUSKIES!

:sword:

Redford won't be gone until 2013, but I don't think Redford is really a factor because he's too one dimensional to ever start. I wouldn't quite call DSR a replacement...

Jumpy
04-14-2011, 07:23 AM
This is my favorite story out of Baylor. They threatened to deport a recruit.

http://www.slamonline.com/online/college-hs/college/2010/10/report-baylor-coach-threatened-to-deport-recruit/

Jeebus. I hope that HS coach turned right around and forwarded that message to the NCAA.

X-band '01
04-15-2011, 05:46 PM
Baylor is f&%$ed if they have any sort of NCAA sanctions for the basketball program; they were 1 step shy of the death penalty back when they had the Dave Bliss fiasco. If they're considered a repeat offender, we're going to see sanctions similar to the SMU football program in the late 80s.

CleXU
04-21-2011, 11:16 PM
Louisville is now trying to make a strong push for Smith-Rivera... hopefully we still get him at X

http://network.yardbarker.com/college_basketball/article_external/pitino_staff_shifting_attention_to_smith_rivera/4601936?linksrc=foxrg_college_basketball

SixFig
04-22-2011, 01:08 AM
Louisville is now trying to make a strong push for Smith-Rivera... hopefully we still get him at X

http://network.yardbarker.com/college_basketball/article_external/pitino_staff_shifting_attention_to_smith_rivera/4601936?linksrc=foxrg_college_basketball

Last time Pitino made a strong push, he finished faaaaar too quickly.

xu15
04-22-2011, 08:13 AM
Last time Pitino made a strong push, he finished faaaaar too quickly.

Zing!

ballyhoohoo
04-22-2011, 10:15 AM
Last time Pitino made a strong push, he finished faaaaar too quickly.


Zing!

The premature ejactulator jokes about Quick Rick never get old.

X-man
04-22-2011, 10:56 AM
The premature ejactulator jokes about Quick Rick never get old.

They don't call him "Slick Rick" for nothing.

Professor X
04-22-2011, 06:26 PM
@KyleNeddenriep
Louisville interest picking up for North Central guard D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera (2012). Also picked up Georgetown offer this week, per his mom

xu15
04-22-2011, 07:16 PM
Well this sucks.

MarvAlbert
04-23-2011, 11:30 AM
If I remember correctly, he seemed to want to play with Rodney Purvis back when Purvis wasn't committed. Now with Purvis verballed to Louisville, that might make their offer a little more enticing.

GoMuskies
04-23-2011, 12:19 PM
Purvis isn't verballed to Louisville anymore. At least that's how I interpret his re-opening his recruitment.

Maybe that's overstated. But there are quite a few doubts that he will honor his commitment now that the coach that recruited him headed to Missouri.

MarvAlbert
04-23-2011, 12:45 PM
It seems like he's going to stay with Louisville, but only time will tell.

XUFan09
04-23-2011, 01:19 PM
If I remember correctly, he seemed to want to play with Rodney Purvis back when Purvis wasn't committed. Now with Purvis verballed to Louisville, that might make their offer a little more enticing.

I thought it was the other way around, that he didn't want to go to the same place as Purvis. I think they're friends, so they wouldn't want to compete for the ball (since both look to be impact players) or for playing time (since they both look to be combo guards and it won't just be them on the team). I could be totally off on this though. Maybe as friends, they like the idea of being on the same team.

HuskyMuskie
04-23-2011, 03:11 PM
Has anyone else wondered why Dez Wells and Purvis have decided to NOT play on the same team? They are constantly tweeting each other and are apparently great friends, and would make an absolutely dynamic pair of players together, one being a wing/guard, the other being a great combo guard.

Why not Xavier...? :confused:

INBRecruits
05-01-2011, 12:04 AM
Highlight mixtape of 6'4" PG D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera of North Central HS (2012) in Indianapolis, Indiana.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAeoD4J9dFc

Follow http://www.twitter.com/INBRecruits for the latest on D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera (offer) and other Xavier Musketeer basketball prospects with Indiana ties.

XUFan09
05-01-2011, 02:14 AM
Highlight mixtape of 6'4" PG D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera of North Central HS (2012) in Indianapolis, Indiana.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAeoD4J9dFc

Follow http://www.twitter.com/INBRecruits for the latest on D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera (offer) and other Xavier Musketeer basketball prospects with Indiana ties.

A couple of those clips look like he was going up against Dee Davis (which would make sense, considering they just faced each other in the playoffs). The first one was near the left baseline, where he drove out from the arc on a guy to lay it in. The second one was a block on the fast break. Fast footage and the camera wasn't zoomed in, so it was hard to be sure.

MarvAlbert
05-07-2011, 08:37 PM
TheRecruitScoop

Former Xavier commit D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera of North Central (IN) will attend Oak Hill next year, according to @INprepspotlight.

probably not the best news, oak hill tends to send players to major conferences...

MuskiePimp23
05-07-2011, 10:06 PM
probably not the best news, oak hill tends to send players to major conferences...

Xavier is a Major basketball program and we have had players from Oak Hill Academy before...Juwan Staten went there last year as well so if dayton can get somebody and keep him from that school, we certainly can...One T.J. Johnson went to Oak Hill Academy.

Norman Dale
05-08-2011, 11:43 AM
Yeah and unfortunately so did the infamous Lloyd Price

Thor in 204
05-08-2011, 12:33 PM
Yeah and unfortunately so did the infamous Lloyd Price

Infamous in some ways but I can still see the great steal he made in the backcourt late in the
Shootout that led to the win.

About DSR, I can still see us in the running for signing him as he likes Coach Mack very much and liked X enough to verbal early. The more bigger-school programs he sees the more he may perhaps be less impressed by them. Perhaps what he likes about X, as well as the success X is likely to have this upcoming season, and perhaps X's proximity to home, will lead him to decide to come here feeling confident that he has checked out all his options.

xtremefan13
05-14-2011, 12:14 AM
Shoutout to Patino and the Ville man, nice visit..(SOLD)

his tweet toinght

Spelled Pitinos name wrong. haha

danaandvictory
05-18-2011, 05:16 PM
Is on campus today, per Snow.

HuskyMuskie
05-18-2011, 05:46 PM
Well at least he didn't pick the shittiest summer day in the midwest in about ten years :mad:

tmac03
05-18-2011, 06:18 PM
Well at least he didn't pick the shittiest summer day in the midwest in about ten years :mad:

True, but he's from Indianapolis, so he's no stranger to crappy midwest weather.

HuskyMuskie
05-18-2011, 06:23 PM
True, but he's from Indianapolis, so he's no stranger to crappy midwest weather.

Funny you say that. I'm from Indianapolis too. And the weather went from suck to sucker during his drive.

Masterofreality
05-18-2011, 06:32 PM
As posted on the Tweet thread:

BSnowScout Brian Snow
Sounds like @Dvauntes44 is making an unofficial visit to Xavier today. He took trips to Louisville and Texas as well in recent weeks.

Keep your fingers crossed.

Close the deal, Chris!

jpbxu
05-18-2011, 07:02 PM
This is DSR's 5th visit...so hopefully he has had better weather during previous visits.

bobbiemcgee
05-18-2011, 08:56 PM
The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar
That tomorrow
There'll be sun!
Just thinkin' 'bout DSR
Tomorrow
Re-committing to X
And the sorrow
for Pitino and L'Ville
When I'm stuck a day
That's gray,
And Mack will work magic
I just stick out my chin
And Grin,
And Say,
Oh
The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on
'Til tomorrow
Come what may
Tomorrow!
Tomorrow!
I love ya
Tomorrow!
You're always
an LOI
A way!

HuskyMuskie
05-18-2011, 10:46 PM
The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar
That tomorrow
There'll be sun!
Just thinkin' 'bout DSR
Tomorrow
Re-committing to X
And the sorrow
for Pitino and L'Ville
When I'm stuck a day
That's gray,
And Mack will work magic
I just stick out my chin
And Grin,
And Say,
Oh
The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on
'Til tomorrow
Come what may
Tomorrow!
Tomorrow!
I love ya
Tomorrow!
You're always
an LOI
A way!

I love this board.

Masterofreality
05-19-2011, 08:13 AM
Apparently the visit by DSR went "very well".

We'll see, but X is right there..............

Michigan Muskie
05-19-2011, 09:17 AM
Apparently the visit by DSR went "very well".

We'll see, but X is right there..............

That makes me feel giddy, and I like feeling giddy.

bobbiemcgee
05-19-2011, 10:52 AM
Apparently the visit by DSR went "very well".

We'll see, but X is right there..............

Staff has certainly done everything they can do, that's for sure. 5 visits tells me it will be a hard decision to go elsewhere, but if that is his decision, we did it all.

X-man
05-19-2011, 11:55 AM
That makes me feel giddy, and I like feeling giddy.

Clearly you are suffering from "ritual withdrawel". I know that I am.

bobbiemcgee
06-01-2011, 01:10 PM
Will this have any effect on the DSR Sweepstakes?

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/05/kevin-ware-louisville-tennessee-central-florida-pitino/1

xufan02
06-01-2011, 01:29 PM
Will this have any effect on the DSR Sweepstakes?

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/05/kevin-ware-louisville-tennessee-central-florida-pitino/1

DSR is better than Ware so no.

SixFig
06-01-2011, 01:29 PM
Will this have any effect on the DSR Sweepstakes?

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2011/05/kevin-ware-louisville-tennessee-central-florida-pitino/1

Ware wants to play SG, while DSR wants to play primarily PG. Also, Ware is in 2011 wile DSR is 2012.

xu95
06-01-2011, 01:30 PM
Not really since wasn't going to choose Louisville anyhow.

xufan02
06-01-2011, 01:35 PM
Not really since wasn't going to choose Louisville anyhow.

It is a two horse race, and Louisville doesn't have a pony.

tmac03
06-01-2011, 02:51 PM
It is a two horse race, and Louisville doesn't have a pony.

So, assuming you're counting us, who's the other horse? I know UCLA has been making a push of late, but it's news to me that DSR wasn't considering Louisville anymore.

JimmyTwoTimes37
06-01-2011, 03:36 PM
So, assuming you're counting us, who's the other horse? I know UCLA has been making a push of late, but it's news to me that DSR wasn't considering Louisville anymore.

Hook em

smileyy
06-01-2011, 03:42 PM
Hook em

So what you're saying is that he's going to Oregon?

xu95
06-01-2011, 04:10 PM
So what you're saying is that he's going to Oregon?

Yes

tmac03
06-01-2011, 04:28 PM
Hook em

I hope you're right that it's down to us and Texas, though I wouldn't count UCLA out since he made an unofficial there a few days ago.

JimmyTwoTimes37
06-01-2011, 04:48 PM
I hope you're right that it's down to us and Texas, though I wouldn't count UCLA out since he made an unofficial there a few days ago.

I agree. That's just the word on the street. To be honest, I'm not sure if I believe any of the 4 (X, UL, UT, UCLA) and possibly GTown have been ruled out yet.

xufan02
06-04-2011, 01:16 PM
It sounds like DSR is not close to making a decision, plans on taking all his official visits in the fall.

http://blogs.indystar.com/recruitingcentral/2011/06/04/saturday-basketball-notes/

waggy
06-11-2011, 11:18 AM
Brian Snow interview of DSR

http://msn.foxsports.com/video?vid=45ce7afc-2315-426f-aa10-72ca49472a95&from=foxsports_en-us_videocentral

bobbiemcgee
06-11-2011, 11:55 AM
Nice. Good things to say about X. Good kid. I firmly believe the staff has done absolutely EVERTHING in their power recruiting-wise with this kid whether he comes or not. Great effort. After 5 visits, he can't know our system any better for a recruit.

JimmyTwoTimes37
06-12-2011, 09:43 AM
Not good. I'm with you Bobby. The staff has done all they can.

@IndyHSHoops: D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera told me that Michigan State is a new school to jump into his recruitment.

KyleNeddenriep Kyle Neddenriep
Talked to D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera for a while earlier. He said Louisville really coming on strong, though no favorites at this point.

Benxman
06-16-2011, 10:24 PM
The longer this plays out, the less I think we are going to get this kid.
Somebody talk me down off the ledge. I am not at all thrilled with the way this recruiting class is going. :(
1) Sim Buhllar - Has great potential, but is a major project.
2)Farr - Ranked a 2 star?
3)We are no longer in the running for any top rated guards except Canty. The others are at least a notch, maybe two below the grade were were hoping for.

The bright light I see for the next couple of years is adding Richardson's recruiting ability and his Chicago connections.

I hate to sound so gloom and doom, but really, I can not get excited with the way this class is coming along.

GO MUSKIES!

:logo:

MADXSTER
06-16-2011, 11:43 PM
Somebody talk me down off the ledge.

1) Sim Buhllar - Has great potential, but is a major project.
2)Farr - Ranked a 2 star?
3)We are no longer in the running for any top rated guards except Canty. The others are at least a notch, maybe two below the grade were were hoping for.

GO MUSKIES!

:logo:

Re: DSR...If he has not comitted somewhere by the end of August then I would agree and would consider him a write off.

Re: Sim...He has been turning some heads in recent AAU tourneys. At this point he may be a project but I wouldn't say a major project. At least from recent reviews that I have read about him. The biggest concern is his weight and conditioning and that seems to be getting better and better.

Re: Farr...Consider him as under the radar. Put it this way, if you like Jalen Reynolds, you'll like Farr. Very similar players. I'm actually very excited about seeing them play together. They are both uptempo guys, attack the basket on defense, follow up above the rim on offense, can shoot from outside, can handle the ball very well for bigs, look to push the ball after getting a rebound, run the court as good as any other big, etc.


Look at Frease, it took him till his junior year to really produce. That's three years away for these guys. Personally I don't think it will take that long for these guys to produce at the next level.

bobbiemcgee
06-16-2011, 11:46 PM
We have 2 G/F's in Martin/Wells for hopefully 4/3 yrs. Davis for 4 yrs. Redford and Lyons for 2 more yrs. Taylor and Philmore, Robinson, Reynolds, Griff and then 2 guys we will need to develop for a couple of yrs. If some guys don't work out there are plenty more Taylors and Philmores and possibly Holloway/Crawfords (ok, maybe not) out there who will love to come play for X. Cupboard is full. :D

waggy
06-17-2011, 12:08 AM
I love the class. PF's and centers are the hardest to recruit. We'll get a guard. Plenty of time. No worries.

ArizonaXUGrad
06-17-2011, 01:30 PM
We have 2 G/F's in Martin/Wells for hopefully 4/3 yrs. Davis for 4 yrs. Redford and Lyons for 2 more yrs. Taylor and Philmore, Robinson, Reynolds, Griff and then 2 guys we will need to develop for a couple of yrs. If some guys don't work out there are plenty more Taylors and Philmores and possibly Holloway/Crawfords (ok, maybe not) out there who will love to come play for X. Cupboard is full. :D

If i remember right, Holloway was not as highly rated as Lyons was their recruiting year. Trust in the staff, I don't care how high the recruit is if he doesn't buy into the system it won't work out.

In the 2012 class Bhullar and Farr are definitely projects but if one or both turn out you have a tall fantastic inside player. When I was in school Posey grew like 8 inches his freshman year and that worked out pretty good. Farr already grew and gets a year at Prep to fill in.

I know we lose Holloway and need to replace him but his replacement was already recruited. You don't have to replace the high scoring PG, we have a smart floor general in Lyons and Davis backing him up and some nice tall'ish wings in Wells and Martin.

Cupboard is definitely full and there is no need to pressure our 2012 class to be productive before they are ready.

GoMuskies
06-20-2011, 02:30 PM
DSR is Louisville's "top target".

http://blogs.courier-journal.com/jodydemling/2011/06/20/louisville-top-target-is-very-high-on-cards/

smileyy
06-20-2011, 03:15 PM
FWIW, if you search their 2008 ranking, Rivals had Holloway slightly ahead of Lyons.

Benxman
06-23-2011, 08:57 PM
OK guys, thanks for talking down off the ledge, LOL, but I still think we need more outside shooting, and a combo guard like DSR sure would be nice.

We'll see. For sure, we aren't hurting. We do have some very talented players in the fold, and I for one, am really glad to have Isaiah Filmore playing for us. He and Travis Taylor are the kind of 'swing' forwards, ie. they could play either the 4 or the 3, that make a team really difficult to prepare for. They can both go inside or outside, and are athletic players. I like Wells and Martin for the same reason. they are 'swing' wings. They could play either the 3 or the 4.

It will be interesting to see how J. Rob plays this year. Will he continue to improve? I think/hope so!

And Griffin McKenzie has put on weight this summer, is working hard in the weight room and also on his post moves. I look for significant improvement in his game this year.

So, for now and the next few years, the cupboard is definitely full.
Again, thanks for cheering me up. I was just in a funky mood when I wrote about the 2012 class being a disapointment, earlier. Heck, Sim got chosen for the Canadian Junior National Team. That is quite an honor and should be a great growing experience (no pun intended) for him.

GO MUSKIES!

:logo:

Juice
06-27-2011, 01:47 PM
D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera isn’t worried about which position he is going to play at the next level.

The 6-foot-3 combo guard from Indiana can fill it up like a scorer, but has the IQ and passing ability of a lead guard.

“I want to improve as an all-around player,” Smith-Rivera said. “I want to work on my point guard skills, but I want to be a complete basketball player.”

The former Xavier commit isn’t ready to make another decision, but Smith-Rivera did say he has a few schools standing out.

“Texas, UCLA, Georgetown, Xavier, Louisville,” he said. “That’s my top five.”

Smith-Rivera has also visited Michigan State, but he is not focused on the Spartans.

“I want to decide at the end of the summer,” Smith-Rivera said. “As of right now, who knows? There’s no favorite.”

When we spoke to Smith-Rivera in April, he admitted that Xavier still had a slight edge despite his decommitment. Now, the future Oak Hill Academy (Va.) guard is not leaning towards anyone.

“I wouldn’t say they have a leg up, but Xavier does have a lot to offer,” he said. “But so do the other schools.”



http://eye-on-college-basketball-recruiting.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29884776/30280533

A10fan
07-08-2011, 02:04 PM
Anyone have a Scout subscription? Evan Daniel just put up an article from Lebron Academy that infers he talked to DSR. Just curious what it says.

bobbiemcgee
07-08-2011, 02:51 PM
Slick Rick just happened to stop by, wonder if Mack did.

GoMuskies
07-08-2011, 03:22 PM
Slick Rick just happened to stop by

I doubt he stayed for more than 15 seconds.

xu15
07-08-2011, 03:42 PM
I doubt he stayed for more than 15 seconds.

Zing!

Masterofreality
07-08-2011, 05:20 PM
Slick Rick just happened to stop by, wonder if Mack did.

Don't worry. CMack is right there in Akron.

bobbiemcgee
07-08-2011, 05:29 PM
Anyone have a Scout subscription? Evan Daniel just put up an article from Lebron Academy that infers he talked to DSR. Just curious what it says.

Basically said DSR is learning the point to make himself more marketable. Nothing earth shattering. I know these are pay sites but you can basically goggle the article and find it on somebody else's blog where somebody will ask what they talked about and somebody else will spill the beans.

paulxu
07-08-2011, 10:43 PM
Today's Lebron camp update on him from ESPN:

D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera (Indianapolis/Oak Hill) gets credit in our book. This is the second camp he's stepped out of his comfort zone and handled point guard duties. A natural scorer and power guard, he's committed to learning the position and playing through mistakes for the betterment of his game long term.

boozehound
07-09-2011, 08:02 AM
I doubt he stayed for more than 15 seconds.

Hey Yo!

Juice
07-15-2011, 01:25 PM
This Louisville blog (retweeted by Musketeer Scoop) says that thing between Louisville and DSR have cooled off. Since many have considered them to be the main competitor to XU for DSR's committment, this is definitely a good thing.

http://www.thecardinalconnect.com/?p=5941

bobbiemcgee
07-15-2011, 02:04 PM
I remember his mom saying she wanted him to go somewhere where they could see him play. Ain't gonna happen @ G'Town, Texas or KSU.

xu15
07-15-2011, 02:25 PM
This Louisville blog (retweeted by Musketeer Scoop) says that thing between Louisville and DSR have cooled off. Since many have considered them to be the main competitor to XU for DSR's committment, this is definitely a good thing.

http://www.thecardinalconnect.com/?p=5941

Definitely good to hear, although it seems that the longer he takes to make up his mind the more guys we could miss out on (like another top guard) if he ends up going another way at the last second.

XUFan09
07-15-2011, 08:25 PM
Definitely good to hear, although it seems that the longer he takes to make up his mind the more guys we could miss out on (like another top guard) if he ends up going another way at the last second.

This doesn't worry me too much if he decides in August (which is around when other top recruits are probably committing). If it drags into the school year, that could be a problem, but DSR could be the only one of the guards the coaching staff is recruiting who they'll oversign for.

Benxman
07-19-2011, 09:04 PM
This doesn't worry me too much if he decides in August (which is around when other top recruits are probably committing). If it drags into the school year, that could be a problem, but DSR could be the only one of the guards the coaching staff is recruiting who they'll oversign for.

I agree XUFan09! The question is, who else are we going for that we would oversign for? I don't see anyone else out there at this time that we are recruiting, that we would do that for. Do any of you?

GO MUSKIES!

:logo:

XUFan09
07-19-2011, 09:17 PM
I agree XUFan09! The question is, who else are we going for that we would oversign for? I don't see anyone else out there at this time that we are recruiting, that we would do that for. Do any of you?

GO MUSKIES!

:logo:

Semaj Christon. More of a pure point guard but is able to fill it up when his team needs him to.

MuskieMAN5
07-21-2011, 06:53 PM
Dvauntes tweeted earlier thanking the u of l and x for "showing him love" ...maybe this means he still likes x or shows mack is still trying to get him to commit

bobbiemcgee
07-21-2011, 07:22 PM
can DSR come right NOW! We gotta scholly.

MuskiePimp23
07-21-2011, 11:04 PM
Dvauntes tweeted earlier thanking the u of l and x for "showing him love" ...maybe this means he still likes x or shows mack is still trying to get him to commit

Xavier's coaching staff is still recruiting D'Vauntes as much as they were before...Mack and staff really want him to come to X.

paulxu
07-22-2011, 07:42 AM
Dvauntes tweeted earlier thanking the u of l and x for "showing him love" ...maybe this means he still likes x or shows mack is still trying to get him to commit

Mack is in Las Vegas for Jam On It. DSR there also. Good sign that he noticed Mack following his activity out there.

xu95
07-22-2011, 08:52 AM
X has never been out of the recruiting picture. Other people have just joined.

xu95

XUFan09
07-22-2011, 10:29 AM
X has never been out of the recruiting picture. Other people have just joined.

xu95

That pretty much sums it up.

TUXU2011
07-25-2011, 11:07 PM
Even though we just got a commitment from Christon, we are still going after DSR. Mack has been following him around on the recruiting trail and it is down to Louisville and X. DSR plays the 2 while Christon plays point, so that shouldn't factor into his decision much at all. Look for DSR to recommit to X.

MuskiePimp23
07-25-2011, 11:19 PM
Even though we just got a commitment from Christon, we are still going after DSR. Mack has been following him around on the recruiting trail and it is down to Louisville and X. DSR plays the 2 while Christon plays point, so that shouldn't factor into his decision much at all. Look for DSR to recommit to X.

DSR will play both the 1 and 2 in college and if he commits to Xavier will certainly play PG as well...I agree though, that we are still very much in the mix for DSR.

XU 87
07-25-2011, 11:30 PM
I'd be a little surprised if DSR still comes to X. I thought he wants to play point guard. But even assuming he's a two, we just got a commitment from Davis. And assuming Reynolds still comes to X, we would be 2 scholarships over the limit if DSR commits.

That said, DSR is a top 25 player; so if he still wants to come to X, roll out the red carpet.

Xavgrad08
07-25-2011, 11:45 PM
I have not read anything about DSR being down to just X or Louisville. From what has been reported there are still a list of schools he is interested in. Last week, he talked to Brian Snow and mentioned some of the schools he will still visit.

At the recent Super 64 in Las Vegas, Smith-Rivera told Jeff Rabjohn (of the Indianapolis Star) that Michigan State has been recruiting him hard. Tom Izzo has made DSR a priority and has been spotted at a lot of his AAU games. DSR will likely be visiting MSU soon.

X, Louisville, MSU, Texas, Georgetown and UCLA, are all still very much in play. Also, it didn't sound like the kid is close to making a decision. It will certainly be interesting to watch it unfold, but I am thankful for the verbal commitments we already have.

waggy
07-26-2011, 01:19 AM
I think the staff stays in touch with DSR, but not to the same level, and I don't realistically see him at X anymore. I think it's basically on to 2013 at this point.

Titanxman04
07-26-2011, 06:41 AM
I'd be a little surprised if DSR still comes to X. I thought he wants to play point guard. But even assuming he's a two, we just got a commitment from Davis. And assuming Reynolds still comes to X, we would be 2 scholarships over the limit if DSR commits.

That said, DSR is a top 25 player; so if he still wants to come to X, roll out the red carpet.

I pretty much am on page with you here, 87 (usually a sign of trouble for you...be wary).

I thought DSR was pretty serious about being a PG in college. He's a combo now and certainly could be a combo at the next level, but I thought one of his sticking points was that he wanted to play the 1 at X or where ever else he goes.

The fact that it'd bring us two over the limit as opposed to 1 is what bothers me a bit. I know there has annually been the discussion of scholarships and whether or not players are "forced out" of X - and whether or not we're ok with that. I'm personally torn when it comes to that issue, but it seems that if we bring on DSR, we'll be intentionally forcing at least one out or at least be planning to do so. It's big time college basketball now and we're not at the level of MAC teams or anything. It's still an issue to consider.

There's no doubt DSR is one hell of a player, and I'll celebrate if he comes to X. But as far as peace of mind and whatnot, I would wonder what the players thoughts are. Will we have another ATay tell Mack that he'll give up his scholarship for him?

kyxu
07-26-2011, 06:56 AM
I know that it makes some uncomfortable to talk about this, but we have someone (sometimes) unexpectedly leave the program every year. And when you have a roster more packed with talent, you'll have fewer guys willing to take a supporting role on a team. Hence, people leave.

bobbiemcgee
07-26-2011, 07:00 AM
I don't buy the "forced out" deal. Schollies are one yr. committments. It's a big time biz. We need to win and put fannies in the seats. Recruits know they will be required to perform at a certain level to keep their scholly. The transfer list will continue to grow every year. If you have an academic scholly and you don't make the grade, guess what?

XUFan09
07-26-2011, 11:10 AM
At this level, players frequently leave early to look for more playing time. People complain that it's due to a sense of entitlement among the players. Really, though, if you were a Rivals 150 player, would you want to mostly sit the bench until your junior, maybe even senior year? This isn't years past when the team is replacing unranked 3-stars with unranked 3-stars. Mack and Co. are bringing in players that have a reasonable expectation of immediate playing time, so they are probably working off this idea, expecting someone to transfer.

HuskyMuskie
07-26-2011, 11:34 AM
As much as I agree with both sides of the scholarship argument, there is another piece to be considered too. Yes, more than likely ONE player will transfer out after this season. However, how many times do you have a unique situation like we have currently, with two "bubble" players, being Lyons and Redford, academically graduating, and maybe wanting to play another year?

In a unique circumstance, and I mean a very unique circumstance, I can see oversigning by two. That circumstance includes having two kids that are on the bubble of leaving, and a five-star recruit who loves Xavier knocking on our door.

GoMuskies
07-26-2011, 12:08 PM
I don't buy the "forced out" deal.

Me either. Unless UC's doing it. Then it's shady as hell!

stophorseabuse
07-26-2011, 12:14 PM
Guys, as much as I Love, and I mean LOVE, Bang Redford, He is a perfect candidate to finish at a MAC level school without having to sit out his Sr. year. I hope not, I hope he stays, but don't you think he will be itching for a year where he plays 30 minutes a game? That realistically just is not going to happen here, and with the 5th year sr. rule, and X getting another shooting specialist in (Davis), the coaches may just let Brad go do that, with his Xavier degree in hand.

If, IF, this happens, Brad Redford's new U will be my 2nd favorite college.

stophorseabuse
07-26-2011, 12:16 PM
BTW, If Brad went to a WMU type school, I expect single season NCAA 3 point records to be challenged.

GoMuskies
07-26-2011, 12:20 PM
BTW, If Brad went to a WMU type school, I expect single season NCAA 3 point records to be challenged.

Percentage-wise? Perhaps. Guys in the MAC are very athletic as well, though. I don't think he'd exactly be a 15-20 ppg scorer in that league.

stophorseabuse
07-26-2011, 12:24 PM
Percentage-wise? Perhaps. Guys in the MAC are very athletic as well, though. I don't think he'd exactly be a 15-20 ppg scorer in that league.

I do. If he gets 30 minutes a game I expect him to hit 4-5 3's a game on 10-12 attempts. thats 12-15 of the points right there. He would have to find the right situation, but he's a smart kid, and coach Mack would help him find a fit where he would be featured in the offensive sets.

All speculation, but I think it's pretty educated speculation. It's also a situation where no one looks bad at all, and I think a close relationship would be maintained.

GoMuskies
07-26-2011, 12:30 PM
If he's a 15-20 point scorer in the MAC, I sure as hell hope he doesn't go anywhere! If you score 15-20 ppg in the MAC, you're damned good.

ballyhoohoo
07-26-2011, 12:46 PM
Guys, as much as I Love, and I mean LOVE, Bang Redford, He is a perfect candidate to finish at a MAC level school without having to sit out his Sr. year. I hope not, I hope he stays, but don't you think he will be itching for a year where he plays 30 minutes a game? That realistically just is not going to happen here, and with the 5th year sr. rule, and X getting another shooting specialist in (Davis), the coaches may just let Brad go do that, with his Xavier degree in hand.

If, IF, this happens, Brad Redford's new U will be my 2nd favorite college.

I think Ball State has a hell of a good graduate broadcast communications program

Mark 3 Pointer
07-26-2011, 12:57 PM
I think Ball State has a hell of a good graduate broadcast communications program

Ohio U. has a great journalism school... With X's connections there that would seem more likely to me.

stophorseabuse
07-26-2011, 01:00 PM
How long until someone jumps our ass for speculating???

Honestly though, Brad could be a double figure scorer here, we just can't keep him oon the court long enough for various reasons. He is a specialist here. He would still be a specialist, but getting starter minutes there is just so many more opportunites to rack up points on free throws, open transition 3's, offensive rebounds when a defense is resetting. There would be many many more opportunities.

MCXU
07-26-2011, 01:10 PM
Maybe we could just petition the NCAA to allow us to field an A and B squad next year.

Kinda like CYO.

Maybe Brads Dad could "help coach" the B squad.

I bet the B squad still makes the NCAA Tournament... and Dayton doesn't.

Xman95
07-26-2011, 07:53 PM
I bet the B squad still makes the NCAA Tournament... and Dayton doesn't.

I'm guessing Vegas wouldn't even put out odds on that because it's such a slam dunk.

Pablo's Brother
07-26-2011, 09:19 PM
I think Ball State has a hell of a good graduate broadcast communications program

Boom, there goes the dynamite.

PMI
07-27-2011, 12:22 PM
It seems like a lot of people are writing off DSR now, which is totally understandable given that we're already one over for next year, but don't be so sure. Not only do I think DSR is still in the picture, but I think we are his leader. To make it interesting, I'll bet anyone here a beer that DSR will re-commit to Xavier.

bobbiemcgee
07-27-2011, 12:53 PM
It seems like a lot of people are writing off DSR now, which is totally understandable given that we're already one over for next year, but don't be so sure. Not only do I think DSR is still in the picture, but I think we are his leader. To make it interesting, I'll bet anyone here a beer that DSR will re-commit to Xavier.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_i9kNsv7OS24/SdzgrJOMn-I/AAAAAAAABX0/t47MVmoRKwE/a398_beer.jpg

I'm in.

Emp
07-27-2011, 12:56 PM
It seems like a lot of people are writing off DSR now, which is totally understandable given that we're already one over for next year, but don't be so sure. Not only do I think DSR is still in the picture, but I think we are his leader. To make it interesting, I'll bet anyone here a beer that DSR will re-commit to Xavier.

I really don't have an informed opinion on this, but this is a win win bet! I accept it. If X lands DSR, it costs me a beer. If X doesn't land DSR, I get a start on drowning my disappointment.

PMI, better put a lid on how many bets you will accept.

PMI
07-27-2011, 12:58 PM
I will put NO lid on how many bets I accept! Only rule is you have to take the bet before midnight tonight. If there are 30 takers, that's 30 beers. So far I've got Bobbie and Emp. It's going to be one hell of a toast when DSR re-commits!

xu95
07-27-2011, 01:11 PM
What the hell. I'm in.

xu95

XavierGJG
07-27-2011, 01:40 PM
I'm in!

JimmyTwoTimes37
07-27-2011, 02:16 PM
I will put NO lid on how many bets I accept! Only rule is you have to take the bet before midnight tonight. If there are 30 takers, that's 30 beers. So far I've got Bobbie and Emp. It's going to be one hell of a toast when DSR re-commits!

I'm in.

smileyy
07-27-2011, 02:30 PM
I'll bet the Larry Sykes basketball-ref sponsorship ($10) that DSR doesn't come to Xavier, and, more, doesn't play in the NBA.

Emp
07-27-2011, 02:33 PM
I will put NO lid on how many bets I accept! Only rule is you have to take the bet before midnight tonight. If there are 30 takers, that's 30 beers. So far I've got Bobbie and Emp. It's going to be one hell of a toast when DSR re-commits!

If you were to win, would you have to consume all winning bets in one seating?

PMI
07-27-2011, 02:39 PM
I'll bet the Larry Sykes basketball-ref sponsorship ($10) that DSR doesn't come to Xavier, and, more, doesn't play in the NBA.

I'll take the Larry Sykes bet for $10 but I'm out on the NBA bet. It wouldn't shock me if DSR doesn't make it to the NBA given his average athleticism.


If you were to win, would you have to consume all winning bets in one seating?

If we can arrange for all those involved to meet at a game/Dana's, I'd be happy to give it my best shot.

So, so far we've got Bobbie, Emp, xu95, GJG, and Jimmy for a beer, and smieyy for a $10 sponsorship (you'll have to provide me a link or something because I'm unfamiliar with it.)

KingCole
07-27-2011, 02:42 PM
I want to lose this bet to see you try and drink all that beer. Count me in.

smileyy
07-27-2011, 03:05 PM
I'll take the Larry Sykes bet for $10 but I'm out on the NBA bet. It wouldn't shock me if DSR doesn't make it to the NBA given his average athleticism.


Deal :) The more pimping of XU hoops we can get on Basketball Reference the better.

There's a link, just before his "career" stats to sponsor the page: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/sykesla01.html

GoMuskies
07-27-2011, 03:18 PM
I want to lose this bet to see you try and drink all that beer.

There would also, you know, be the matter of DSR coming to Xavier that would kind of be okay.

MADXSTER
07-27-2011, 03:51 PM
I think DSR will be at Xavier as well.

But I'm still betting you.

paulxu
07-27-2011, 04:02 PM
I'm in if you'll substitute bourbon for my bet...and I'll do the same.

94GRAD
07-27-2011, 04:03 PM
IN!

JimmyTwoTimes37
07-27-2011, 04:15 PM
If DSR commits, we should probably reserve an alcohol poisoning room at University Hospital for PMI

He is going to make Courtney Love look sober

xtremefan13
07-27-2011, 04:19 PM
Im in i hope you win the bet tho!

PMI
07-27-2011, 10:57 PM
So, with just over an hour left before the deadline we have the following in for a beer:

Bobbie
Emp
xu95
GJG
Jimmy
KingCole
MadX
94
xtreme13

For a bourbon (and perhaps what puts me over the top after those 9 beers):

My namesake, Paul

For a $10 sponsor to the Sykes page:

smileyy

Looks like we've got quite a contest so far. Getting drunk on you fellas would be great, but I really hope I win this thing for the right reasons. Here's to me getting shitfaced courtesy of Xavier's first 5 star commit!

HuskyMuskie
07-28-2011, 12:29 PM
So, with just over an hour left before the deadline we have the following in for a beer:

Bobbie
Emp
xu95
GJG
Jimmy
KingCole
MadX
94
xtreme13

For a bourbon (and perhaps what puts me over the top after those 9 beers):

My namesake, Paul

For a $10 sponsor to the Sykes page:

smileyy

Looks like we've got quite a contest so far. Getting drunk on you fellas would be great, but I really hope I win this thing for the right reasons. Here's to me getting shitfaced courtesy of Xavier's first 5 star commit!

You know what--I turned 21 today. So I think it's only right that I throw my hat into this ring as well. But in the other direction. I'm with PMI. I will side that DSR commits, and will stand in line with PMI and buy you one of these "beers" you speak of, if he does not.

But if he does--oh if he does--just lay our beverages by our thrones as we celebrate.

:cool:

muskiefan82
07-28-2011, 01:15 PM
You know what--I turned 21 today. So I think it's only right that I throw my hat into this ring as well. But in the other direction. I'm with PMI. I will side that DSR commits, and will stand in line with PMI and buy you one of these "beers" you speak of, if he does not.

But if he does--oh if he does--just lay our beverages by our thrones as we celebrate.

:cool:

I think you missed the deadline. If there are extended hours, count me in too.

PMI
07-28-2011, 02:51 PM
Happy birthday Husky. Maybe we should start a thread with a poll and everyone who selects "DSR will be a Muskie" will be one one side, with everyone selecting "DSR won't be a Muskie" on the other. Losing sides buy. I don't know, if you guys still want in that's fine with me.

JimmyTwoTimes37
07-28-2011, 03:14 PM
Happy birthday Husky. Maybe we should start a thread with a poll and everyone who selects "DSR will be a Muskie" will be one one side, with everyone selecting "DSR won't be a Muskie" on the other. Losing sides buy. I don't know, if you guys still want in that's fine with me.

Just to be clear, Im on the DSR will sign with X side(just gut feeling based on absolutely nothing).

But more importantly, I want to see if PMI can really drink all these free beers he will get should DSR commit. That's why I'm siding on the DSR will not commit side

PMI
07-28-2011, 04:42 PM
Just to be clear, Im on the DSR will sign with X side(just gut feeling based on absolutely nothing).

But more importantly, I want to see if PMI can really drink all these free beers he will get should DSR commit. That's why I'm siding on the DSR will not commit side

Oh that's not going to be an issue my friend. The bourbon may be the straw that breaks the camel's back, but the 9 beers are going down like a dayton flyer on a watermelon.

Emp
08-04-2011, 04:09 PM
Oh that's not going to be an issue my friend. The bourbon may be the straw that breaks the camel's back, but the 9 beers are going down like a dayton flyer on a watermelon.

You have me all mixed up. Go down on? I thought Flyers humped mellons, not gave them oral sex.

bobbiemcgee
08-05-2011, 06:56 PM
http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20110802/SPORTS02/308020097/Rick-Pitino-Louisville-staff-looking-sweet-16-recruits

Masterofreality
08-05-2011, 07:04 PM
http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20110802/SPORTS02/308020097/Rick-Pitino-Louisville-staff-looking-sweet-16-recruits

Wow. Like all those guys are falling all over themselves to go to Louisville and no where else.

Uh, Jody. Just because Pitino has them on his list doesn't mean that U of L is their first choice. But since you're writing for the CJ, your lemmings will probably believe that.

Xman95
08-05-2011, 07:07 PM
I just can't figure out why any top talent would go to UofL at this point. Without UK having his back, Pitino doesn't seem that much different than most coaches. He's good, but doesn't seem like anything special. In fact, it seems like UofL has fallen short of expectations quite a bit with Slick Rick at the helm.

I'm sure UofL has at least one draw ($$$) that has big time recruits considering playing there, but it doesn't seem to be the quality of its coach.

deepX
08-05-2011, 07:16 PM
I just can't figure out why any top talent would go to UofL at this point. Without UK having his back, Pitino doesn't seem that much different than most coaches. He's good, but doesn't seem like anything special. In fact, it seems like UofL has fallen short of expectations quite a bit with Slick Rick at the helm.

I'm sure UofL has at least one draw ($$$) that has big time recruits considering playing there, but it doesn't seem to be the quality of its coach.
Rick can also sell them on the lat night off-menu special offerings at local restaurants!

MADXSTER
08-06-2011, 04:07 PM
For 2012, Louisville has offered 19 players. None have yet to commit. They offered Samaj Christon but he decided to take Xavier's offer.

:logo:

CleXU
08-08-2011, 10:15 PM
Well sounds like it might be over with DSR and Xavier...

http://blogs.indystar.com/recruitingcentral/2011/08/08/big-ten-program-showing-more-interest-in-smith-rivera/

From DSR... also says Michigan State is coming on strong.
Xavier had been in the hunt until filling up at his position in its 2012 class.

“That kind of took them out of the mix,” he said. “They had two players at my position.”

xufan02
08-08-2011, 10:59 PM
I know a lot of people think we are still in it, and I have heard talk from people I trust that we still have a good shot, but I think we have too much working against us to get DSR. We would have to sign over two to get him, probably alienate another one of guards that just committed, and push someone else out the door. DSR is a great prospect, but when the new rankings come out I would be suprised if Semaj is not a consensus top 75 player.

PG- Semaj Christon
SG- Myles Davis
PF- James Farr
PF- Jalen Reynolds

Will be our 2012 class, while Sim will be a 2011 player.

deepX
08-09-2011, 11:41 AM
After giving DRS every chance to re-commit and continuing to show him he was a very high priority for us, we could not put off other high quality recruits that wanted to commit to Xavier. I believe X was still at the top of his list, but he couldn't/wouldn't pull the trigger for family, etc reasons.
This is unfortunate, but I think he really wanted to be at Xavier, but we will not go 2 over, as some people seem to assume we will.

-deepX

xu15
08-09-2011, 11:47 AM
After giving DRS every chance to re-commit and continuing to show him he was a very high priority for us, we could not put off other high quality recruits that wanted to commit to Xavier. I believe X was still at the top of his list, but he couldn't/wouldn't pull the trigger for family, etc reasons.
This us unfortuniate, but I think he really wanted to be at Xavier, but we will not go 2 over, as some people seem to assume we will.

-deepX

This is right, and I'm not concerned at all. Semaj Christon will be a stud.

Nigel Tufnel
09-07-2011, 04:11 PM
Haven't heard much on the DSR front, but did find this today on the IU Scout board....hope this guy has some good info....

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=170&f=2353&t=7884512

GoMuskies
09-07-2011, 04:17 PM
Haven't heard much on the DSR front, but did find this today on the IU Scout board....hope this guy has some good info....

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=170&f=2353&t=7884512

Holy f#%k would that be awesome!

More Cowbell
09-07-2011, 04:19 PM
New youtube video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvjEFMANGkY&feature=player_embedded#!

nkymuskie
09-07-2011, 04:39 PM
New youtube video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvjEFMANGkY&feature=player_embedded#!

He looks tiny in that video height wise. I always thought he was around 6'3" or 6'4". Built like a linebacker though. He's definitely not a string bean

PMI
09-07-2011, 06:33 PM
I might be about to get thirsty...

But more so than the drinks, I'd be very interested to see some of the responses on this board if and when it happens.

HuskyMuskie
09-07-2011, 07:13 PM
WE might be about to get thirsty...

But more so than the drinks, I'd be very interested to see some of the responses on this board if and when it happens.

Fixed it for you. More importantly, if he who shall not be name doesn't side with Xavier, we might be about to buy out Dana's :(

asmithxc
09-07-2011, 07:51 PM
Haven't heard much on the DSR front, but did find this today on the IU Scout board....hope this guy has some good info....

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=170&f=2353&t=7884512


That's great news. That guy actually usually does have great info -- he's well-connected in Indiana.

If he says it could happen, it is definitely a possibility. I'd be pumped if it happens.

OSUMuskie
09-08-2011, 10:43 AM
If this happens today my head may explode. Would definitely have to find some Muskie fans to celebrate with up here.

XU '03
09-08-2011, 11:35 AM
Per the Oak Hills coach on Twitter (@OHACoachSmith) Xavier will be on campus tomorrow which I can only assume is for DSR.

ArizonaXUGrad
09-08-2011, 12:40 PM
Cincinnati, Georgetown, Louisville, and Purdue are there also. XU could be looking at another kid on the Oak Hill roster.

Anyone know if they have a guy we are going after?

Edit: quick google and AJ Hammons is on Oak Hill. Semaj and Dee and you add the fact we lost our true center and they are visiting Oak Hill. We don't know for sure they aren't there to make a push for Hammons.

PMI
09-08-2011, 12:45 PM
Cincinnati, Georgetown, Louisville, and Purdue are there also. XU could be looking at another kid on the Oak Hill roster.

Anyone know if they have a guy we are going after?

Not sure off the top of my head, but those schools you mentioned are really not in the picture for DSR. Purdue and UC are nowhere near the discussion. It's X or Michigan St, and as I've been saying all along, it's pretty clear that he really just wants to be at X.

XU '03
09-08-2011, 12:49 PM
Oak Hill has 8 seniors being recruited by D-1 programs. Also of interest to X would be AJ Hammons on the roster.

http://www.oakhillhoops.com/roster-player-profiles/2010-2011-oak-hill-academy-basketball-roster/

HuskyMuskie
09-08-2011, 01:02 PM
From what I understand, MSU is after Gary Harris, and he is their #1 prospect.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/hickoryhusker/basketball/recruiting/player-Gary-Harris-96679

G'Town is hard after their own #1 prospect, Kyle Anderson:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Kyle-Anderson-87009

Xavier's long time #1 prospect, DSR, is waiting until REcommitting, to see where the cards land, as both G'Town and MSU have made him what seems to be their back-up plan. I don't blame DSR for waiting it out to see what works out best, or if he TRULY still wants to go back to Xavier. After all, de-committing just really means you want to best re-evaluate all of your options, right?

Like others stated, X staff might be at Oak Hills to make a late push for AJ Hammons:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-A.J.-Hammons-94068

Who was, at one time, a 5-star recruit who has recently seen a MAJOR downgrade in his national rankings. In either case, we have to be excited that Xavier will be at Oak Hill. Whatever happens can't be bad, and will most likely be great.

xufan02
09-08-2011, 01:19 PM
Steele is visiting Oak Hill tomorrow to see DSR; time to close.

whitesox
09-08-2011, 02:55 PM
From what I understand, MSU is after Gary Harris, and he is their #1 prospect.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/hickoryhusker/basketball/recruiting/player-Gary-Harris-96679

That's my understanding as well. They might be going pretty hard after DSR too, though, since Harris is also strongly considering Purdue and IU (his parents spent the day in Bloomington earlier this week). It would be great to get DSR commit before (if) Harris commits elsewhere -- we could definitely beat MSU out head to head, but it would be huge to get him back regardless of how it happens.

Masterofreality
09-08-2011, 09:12 PM
Cincinnati, Georgetown, Louisville, and Purdue are there also. XU could be looking at another kid on the Oak Hill roster.


If a gnome from SucKS is there, and no one can see him, did it really happen?

xu15
09-09-2011, 12:53 PM
Bob (Ann Arbor, MI)


Where does D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera end up. Georgetown, MSU, and Xavier seem to be the top three.

Paul Biancardi (12:00 PM)


Bob, I'll say Louisville or Georgetown.

ArizonaXUGrad
09-09-2011, 02:02 PM
My 2 cents, I am hearing from recruiting guru's over on the KU board that DSR himself is really big on us. He really wants to go to XU. However, his dad really wants him to look at Louisville, MSU, and G'town.

Not sure why MSU seems to be on the backburner but G'town really wants Anderson and has DSR as the backup. Anderson is looking hard at UCLA and G'town.

Honestly and this is really my opinion, I think this kid is too smart to fall for Slick Rick and head to Louisville. I do believe that he will end up at G'town if Anderson commits to UCLA. Now all that could change if he gets less pressure from his dad to commit elsewhere.

PMI
09-09-2011, 03:02 PM
[QUOTE=ArizonaXUGrad;285550]

Not sure why MSU seems to be on the backburner but G'town really wants Anderson and has DSR as the backup./QUOTE]

MSU is still trying to hold out for Gary Harris. DSR knows who his favorite is, and who wants him the most. If DSR chooses MSU, so be it. He'll be very well-coached and have a great chance at success. If he chooses to play for JT3, he's putting himself at an immediate disadvantage. He'll be poorly coached in a crappy system and he'll have to get used to first and second round tournament losses, both in the Big East and NCAA.

xufan02
09-09-2011, 03:28 PM
Bob (Ann Arbor, MI)


Where does D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera end up. Georgetown, MSU, and Xavier seem to be the top three.

Paul Biancardi (12:00 PM)


Bob, I'll say Louisville or Georgetown.

FYI, I'm Bob in Ann Arbor, not really named Bob, but I was interested in Biancardi's take.

ArizonaXUGrad
09-09-2011, 04:26 PM
I really hope Kyle Anderson goes to Georgetown and Harris goes to MSU now. That way it's between slick rick and us and I will take us in that mix.

SixFig
09-09-2011, 09:27 PM
OHACoachSmith Steve Smith by ReggieRankin

Purdue, Cinn in 4 AJ Hammons today. Xavier and Georgetown 4 D'Vauntes. Memphis coming tomorrow to visit with Damien Wilson.

Juice
09-11-2011, 12:17 PM
Louisville just got a verbal from a 2012 PG named Terry Rozier. I have no idea if this affects DSR's recruitment with them.

Masterofreality
09-11-2011, 12:46 PM
Louisville just got a verbal from a 2012 PG named Terry Rozier. I have no idea if this affects DSR's recruitment with them.

DSR is off Louisville. Remember, Biancardi works for B-Espn. Louisville & Georgetown, my a$$.

X, G-town and darkhorse Michigan State.

Go Travis, GO!!!

GreatWhiteNorth
09-11-2011, 02:12 PM
My worry regarding DSR's decision to come to X is that we have a lot of guards already. If he does come, I am sure X will play him, but who is going to be left out? I am sure Mack has that in his mind also.

Xman95
09-11-2011, 07:07 PM
My worry regarding DSR's decision to come to X is that we have a lot of guards already. If he does come, I am sure X will play him, but who is going to be left out? I am sure Mack has that in his mind also.

Probably means Semaj might have second thoughts. But that's just a guess on my part.

SixFig
09-11-2011, 07:22 PM
Probably means Semaj might have second thoughts. But that's just a guess on my part.

It could be any literally be any player, either current or future. Speculation is absurd at this point.

Not to call you out Xman, but I'd rather not play the "let's guess who will be a progammatic non-fit in 2012-13" game right now.

GoMuskies
09-11-2011, 08:51 PM
My worry regarding DSR's decision to come to X is that we have a lot of guards already. If he does come, I am sure X will play him, but who is going to be left out? I am sure Mack has that in his mind also.

Who gives a damn? If DSR is better than the guys we have, then I want him. This is Division I college basketball (in my best Dan Hawkins voice)!

Xman95
09-12-2011, 12:52 AM
It could be any literally be any player, either current or future. Speculation is absurd at this point.

Not to call you out Xman, but I'd rather not play the "let's guess who will be a progammatic non-fit in 2012-13" game right now.


Who gives a damn? If DSR is better than the guys we have, then I want him. This is Division I college basketball (in my best Dan Hawkins voice)!

Agree on both fronts. Only reason I mentioned Semaj was because he would be in the same class and it would seem that he would be "recruited over" immediately. That being said, from what I have read about Christon, I'm getting to the point where I might prefer him over DSR. Sounds like Semaj has some serious upside and can be a big time PG with a little bit more experience.

Regardless, I have a feeling I'll be happy with whatever players Mack & Co. land. Those cats have been killing it on the recruiting trail ever since Chris took over.

bobbiemcgee
09-13-2011, 02:32 PM
Kyle Anderson supposed to announce on 9/19 whether he picks G'Town or not. DSR visits there 9/23. Think this will be over in a week or so. I'm thinking 10% chance he comes to X. Very happy with Semaj and Miles but greed would be good. :D:D:D

A10fan
09-14-2011, 07:29 AM
Anyone have a subscription to Rivals? Seems they have moved GTown to high and X and Louisville medium.

Whispers on D'Vauntes (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1264651&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=)

BlueX
09-14-2011, 07:39 AM
http://eye-on-college-basketball-recruiting.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29884776/31955284

DSR's mom talks about his recruitment.

Masterofreality
09-14-2011, 12:32 PM
http://eye-on-college-basketball-recruiting.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/29884776/31955284

DSR's mom talks about his recruitment.

Well, that's positive. Ain't no champagne being opened yet, though.

bobbiemcgee
09-14-2011, 03:40 PM
DSR has more trips to X than the pizza guy.:D

Masterofreality
09-14-2011, 08:18 PM
Well,

DSR is apparently visiting NC State this weekend.

That one is out of the blue.....completely.

HuskyMuskie
09-14-2011, 08:26 PM
Yeah, I'm done following this kid's recruiting. Seriously not even worth it anymore. If he comes--great. If not--great. At least it's over either way.

GreatWhiteNorth
09-14-2011, 09:23 PM
Yeah, I'm done following this kid's recruiting. Seriously not even worth it anymore. If he comes--great. If not--great. At least it's over either way.
I feel the same way.

LA Muskie
09-15-2011, 02:15 AM
I'm sorry. I'm just not see it happening. He committed. Then he de-committed. Now he clearly is willing to listen to the pitch of anyone with a whistle. NC State and Memphis? It's like he feels the need to amass the most offers in his class.

By all accounts, despite "loving" X, nothing is stopping him from committing but himself. That may not be conclusive, but it's surely not a good sign.

MADXSTER
09-15-2011, 09:29 AM
I'm sorry. I'm just not see it happening. He committed. Then he de-committed. Now he clearly is willing to listen to the pitch of anyone with a whistle. NC State and Memphis? It's like he feels the need to amass the most offers in his class.

By all accounts, despite "loving" X, nothing is stopping him from committing but himself. That may not be conclusive, but it's surely not a good sign.

This ^

waggy
09-15-2011, 02:11 PM
I don't know what the big deal is. We've put lots of time into other guys only to see them go somewhere that makes you scratch your head. Ari Stewart comes to mind. I'm not knocking the kid - he should go where he wants - because despite his ranking no one knows how he'll develop or how good he'll ultimately be.

Some people need to stop acting like dumped teenagers.

XUmeat
09-16-2011, 09:05 AM
I'm only seeing NC State & Lousville responses to this one...

Dvauntes44 DVauntes SmithRivera
college visits comin soon, whos gonna show the most love i need to know who i can depend on..

GoMuskies
09-16-2011, 09:17 AM
I'm only seeing NC State & Lousville responses to this one...

Dvauntes44 DVauntes SmithRivera
college visits comin soon, whos gonna show the most love i need to know who i can depend on..

I hope no Xavier fans respond. This is pretty disgusting.

Woodburn
09-16-2011, 09:20 AM
I hope no Xavier fans respond. This is pretty disgusting.
I'm embarrassed for him.

boozehound
09-16-2011, 09:26 AM
I'm sorry. I'm just not see it happening. He committed. Then he de-committed. Now he clearly is willing to listen to the pitch of anyone with a whistle. NC State and Memphis? It's like he feels the need to amass the most offers in his class.

By all accounts, despite "loving" X, nothing is stopping him from committing but himself. That may not be conclusive, but it's surely not a good sign.

See: Exhibit 1A below...


I'm only seeing NC State & Lousville responses to this one...

Dvauntes44 DVauntes SmithRivera
college visits comin soon, whos gonna show the most love i need to know who i can depend on..

This kid seems pretty high maintenance.

HuskyMuskie
09-16-2011, 10:01 AM
The more I know about this kid and hear what's on his mind--the more don't want him to come. I am much more interested in the four players we have who are constantly tweeting about being hungry and wanting to get better.

Sorry, DSR. You had me for the longest time. Couldn't care less any more. The opposite of bonjour to you.

XUmeat
09-16-2011, 10:05 AM
See: Exhibit 1A below...



This kid seems pretty high maintenance.

From the outside it seems this way. However, if Mack & Steele think he fits in the system, I think he fits in the system

GreatWhiteNorth
09-16-2011, 10:16 AM
He committed and then de-committed, and in the meantime, X recruited 2 more guards. I don't see what Mack can tell him to make him change his mind and re-commit, unless the other schools he is considering are not giving him enough "love".

Juice
09-18-2011, 10:54 PM
From Rivals.com:


Did any visits surprise you recently - schools get a visit from someone you didn't think would be interested in them?

Meyer: D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera visiting North Carolina State caught my attention. Yes, he is teammates with Tyler Lewis, who is committed to the Wolfpack, and is taking the trip with Lewis. But North Carolina State has been heavily invested in recruiting Rodney Purvis, whose game is quite similar to Smith-Rivera's. You have to wonder what impact Smith-Rivera's visit has on Purvis.

Bossi: I don't know that it's necessarily a surprising visit, but I think that Tim Floyd and UTEP did pretty well for themselves to get a visit out of Twymond Howard. A native of Mississippi, most are expecting that the nation's No. 69 player will stay in the Southeast. But, Floyd is an aggressive recruiter and has always done pretty well in Mississippi and Louisiana so it's not a surprise to see him trying to go back to a well that has been pretty good to him in the past.

Eastside_J
09-19-2011, 10:55 AM
See: Exhibit 1A below...



This kid seems pretty high maintenance.

Yep - but you are still very much in the front of the hunt for him.

Just my .02 but if I were Mack I would consider limiting my exposure to more high maintenance new comers. "Close" has its benefits. But sometimes its good to get kids from a little farther out of the area.

XUmeat
10-13-2011, 12:40 PM
We can mercifully move on....

jeffborzello Jeff Borzello
Per @BSnowScout, D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera will announce his decision at 5 p.m. on Saturday. Georgetown, Louisville, Memphis, or NC State.

GoMuskies
10-13-2011, 12:54 PM
We can mercifully move on....

jeffborzello Jeff Borzello
Per @BSnowScout, D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera will announce his decision at 5 p.m. on Saturday. Georgetown, Louisville, Memphis, or NC State.

Raise your hand if you will be shocked if it's none of those four. My hand is certainly not raised.

xufan02
10-13-2011, 01:10 PM
Georgetown will be the call.

MADXSTER
10-13-2011, 01:47 PM
IUPUI just called so he's going to move his decision date out another week. ;)

More Cowbell
10-13-2011, 01:55 PM
Will there be a press conference? Maybe an espn special?

MADXSTER
10-13-2011, 02:14 PM
Will there be a press conference? Maybe an espn special?

I think a mini-series will be come out.

GoMuskies
10-13-2011, 02:20 PM
I think a mini-series will be come out.

Good idea. He could commit to each team for a week and have a documentary chronicaling him deciding who he liked being committed to best. And then he could sign with a fifth, yet-undetermined school.

This could be a ratings bonanza.

Emp
10-13-2011, 03:03 PM
PMI will be hosting the presser. Beer to flow immediately afterward.

JimmyTwoTimes37
10-13-2011, 04:30 PM
Hopefully his decision is solely based on conference affiliation and X moves into the same conference as GTown in 2 years. Wouldn't mind seeing DSR vs Semaj/Dee

SixFig
10-13-2011, 05:14 PM
Hopefully his decision is solely based on conference affiliation and X moves into the same conference as GTown in 2 years. Wouldn't mind seeing DSR vs Semaj/Dee

Dee Davis was pretty successful both offensively and defensively against DSR in the Indiana State Semifinals. Oh, and Dee's team won it all.

Xman95
10-13-2011, 08:30 PM
Honestly, I'm happier to have Semaj in the fold than I was to have DSR. Don't get me wrong, I would have gladly taken DSR at X and think he would have had a very good career. But Semaj seems to have a more athletic game and could have a greater upside. DSR looks like his game is primarily based on strength and that might even out over a college career.

Good luck to DSR wherever he goes.

Juice
10-15-2011, 05:02 PM
BSnowScout Brian Snow
D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera is official to Georgetown

Masterofreality
10-16-2011, 08:50 AM
Good luck to him.

He'll be playing for a coach who annually underachieves, plays a grinding style and in a league that is falling apart- and further away from home.

Have fun, DSR. The phone is open if you want to transfer in a year or two.

Thor in 204
10-16-2011, 12:04 PM
DSR's talents might be better suited to Georgetown's style of play than to the style we will be playing this year and for the next few years at least, with Coach Mack. Good luck to him. I'm happy we have Semaj and Myles coming in next year to play with Dee and Dez (who eventually could play a lot at the 2) and presumably Cheeks and Brad.

GoMuskies
10-16-2011, 07:46 PM
in a league that is falling apart

...that we are desperately hoping to join

Masterofreality
10-16-2011, 07:56 PM
...that we are desperately hoping to join

I'm not so sure of what the advantage is anymore. If the A-10 works this right, we can actually be better.

We know that UCon, West Virginia and Louisville will go away for football. Then what is left? The big TV advantage will no longer be there. Hmmm mm.

GoMuskies
10-16-2011, 08:02 PM
I'm not so sure of what the advantage is anymore.

Villanova, Georgetown, and St. John's.....or LaSalle, GW and Fordham. I've got a pretty good idea what the advantage would be.

golfitup
10-16-2011, 08:24 PM
Finally this crap is over. People who got worked up over this are not smart.

XUFan09
10-17-2011, 12:01 AM
DSR's talents might be better suited to Georgetown's style of play than to the style we will be playing this year and for the next few years at least, with Coach Mack. Good luck to him. I'm happy we have Semaj and Myles coming in next year to play with Dee and Dez (who eventually could play a lot at the 2) and presumably Cheeks and Brad.

You might be right about that. He's a very cerebral guard but not overly athletic. Obviously any team would adjust strategy to a degree to accommodate his skills, but there's only so much a team can stray from its identity and Xavier for the next few years will be an athletically-minded bunch.

PMI
10-22-2011, 11:30 AM
Looks like the following esteemed posters will be drinking one courtesy of this guy at some point. I only know a few of you, but I will pay up:

Bobbiemcgee
Emp
xu95
XavierGJG
JimmyTwoTimes
KingCole
MadXster
94Grad
xtremefan13

I'm sure I'll be seeing some of you at a game this year, and will bring my wallet. As for DSR, good luck to the kid, but I think his mom will regret her decision at some point when she realizes how it goes at Georgetown. He will be a key player for them for four years, and will likely never make a Sweet 16 playing for my fellow Gonzaga grad, JT3. Xavier is in excellent shape for the future, and it's a shame he didn't get to hop on for it like he wanted to, but such is the game of recruiting. Semaj and Mayles are going to join Dee and Dez in a loaded backcourt next year. See you guys at the bar!

Xman95
10-22-2011, 03:47 PM
but I think his mom will regret her decision at some point when she realizes how it goes at Georgetown

Mom may have personally derailed the money train! X is an elite program that's still on the rise, G'town is a program that's known primarily for Ewing, Mutombo, Mourning and Iverson...guys that haven't been there for a long, long time. It's also in a league that may struggle to find an identity in a couple years.

That being said, if the Big East keeps getting raped of schools with legit football programs, G'town and X may actually wind up in the same league, whether it's the A-10, a Big East focused on basketball, or some combination of both. But I have a feeling X would be the headliner of the league, not G'town.

smileyy
10-22-2011, 04:51 PM
I think I had a bet of a sponsorship of Larry Sykes' basketball-reference.com page in there too :)

Feel free to promote X however you want: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/sykesla01.html

Not to mention, support a great set of websites :)

Edit: I could be wrong though -- I make quite a few sports-reference sponsoring wagers.