Good Get for Charlotte 49ers

[LutherRackleyRulez]

Per Jody Demling....Louisville C-J.....


Guyn headed to Charlotte

Scott County High School (KY) standout guard Ge'Lawn Guyn - considered by some analysts as the top basketball player statewide (KY) in the Class of 2010 - has committed to Charlotte.

The 6-foot-3 Guyn also had an offer from Western Kentucky and was getting a lot of interest from Dayton, Indiana, Virginia Tech, Cincinnati, Oklahoma State and several others.

Guyn committed to the 49ers while he was in Charlotte for the school's Elite Camp with his family.

As a junior at Scott County, Guyn 15.4 points, 3.7 rebounds, 2.9 assists and 2.8 steals a game. He hit 49.6 percent from the field, including 39.8 percent from three-point range.




http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs/demling/2009/06/guyn-headed-to-charlotte.html#comments

[kyxu]

Eventually, Charlotte's bound to challenge for the A-10 title.

Eventually....

[therick44]

Guyn has really looked good on the AAU ciruit this spring and his stock was definitely rising. I like his game a lot and think he will be a great player in the A-10. His quickness is elite and when he's on from outside he's almost impossible to defend.

I really wish he would have went to Western Kentucky. Between him and Derrick Gordon they would really have a nice recruiting class going.

[golfitup]

What the eff kind of name is Ge'Lawn?

[SixFig]

Plus he'll get on ESPN at least once a year when the 49ers play Xavier. Thats got to be a huge selling point.

[Ninerballin]

Plus he'll get on ESPN at least once a year when the 49ers play Xavier. Thats got to be a huge selling point.

At least he won't be on the losing end :D.

In all seriousness, Charlotte even in a down year was on TV a good bit, including some games on MASN & of course the dreadful CBS College Sports. We were on a ESPN network 5 or 6 times, and it wasn't our first time upsetting a team from Cincinnati on ESPN.

[kyxu]

At least he won't be on the losing end :D.

Xavier leads the all-time series 6-1. Just saying.

EDIT: what's funny is if you go to youtube, there are about 10 videos commemorating Charlotte's first-ever in school history win over Xavier last February.

[Ninerballin]

Xavier leads the all-time series 6-1. Just saying.

EDIT: what's funny is if you go to youtube, there are about 10 videos commemorating Charlotte's first-ever in school history win over Xavier last February.

What's funny if you go to youtube, there's 25 videos on Sean Miller leaving, including this classic.

MON 5:32 PM - Sean Miller you broke my heart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyR8Mk1nb4U

PS, also mentions John Mayer & Garth Brooks! Sean Miller + John Mayer + Garth Brooks = Xavier Basketball!

[kyxu]

I'm sure if any program actually wanted Bobby Lutz, Niner Nation would be lamenting in full force

[GuyFawkes38]

MON 5:32 PM - Sean Miller you broke my heart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyR8Mk1nb4U

PS, also mentions John Mayer & Garth Brooks! Sean Miller + John Mayer + Garth Brooks = Xavier Basketball!

I enjoyed that youtube clip. Until you have loved and lost like us X fans, I don't think you should criticize.

[Ninerballin]

I'm sure if any program actually wanted Bobby Lutz, Niner Nation would be lamenting in full force

Far from it, but Bobby is a pretty good coach, a guy who's the all time wins leader in 49er history surpassing Jeff Mullins, who resurrected the program in the late 80's and early 90s. He's a guy who's never got in the trouble with the NCAA, never been questioned for malicious recruiting practices (Huggins, Calipari) and a guy with a good reputation throughout the NCAA.

If Bobby ever leaves, we have guys in line that can get the job done, just like Xavier has Pat Kelsey who is probably a better coach in all aspects than Mack right now.

[GuyFawkes38]

I've always been impressed with Lutz.

Charlotte lies in the most competitive college basketball region without the recruiting base to back it up. Yet, Lutz has put together a good program.

[kyxu]

Far from it, but Bobby is a pretty good coach, a guy who's the all time wins leader in 49er history surpassing Jeff Mullins, who resurrected the program in the late 80's and early 90s. He's a guy who's never got in the trouble with the NCAA, never been questioned for malicious recruiting practices (Huggins, Calipari) and a guy with a good reputation throughout the NCAA.

That's really sweet. He sounds a lot like a Xavier coach, only less successful.

But I'm teasing. I have no reason to disrespect or think any ill of Bobby Lutz.


If Bobby ever leaves, we have guys in line that can get the job done, just like Xavier has Pat Kelsey who is probably a better coach in all aspects than Mack right now.

I'm interested to hear what you base this on.

[Ninerballin]

I've always been impressed with Lutz.

Charlotte lies in the most competitive college basketball region without the recruiting base to back it up. Yet, Lutz has put together a good program.


Lutz has done a good job here, could he have done better? Most certainly. The one thing that hurt Lutz and the transition to the A10 was recruiting before and after the transition. First of all we lost our top recruiter and one of the best in the country in Rob Moxley. The guy is responsible for a ton of our success over the years, tied to names like Rodney White (Freshman of the year in 01 and lottery pick), Diego Guevera, Demon Brown, Brendan Plavich, and so on. He left for Maryland and he recruited Grieves Vasquez while there (Maryland's best player).

Rob only spent a year with the terps before coming back, but that year through off about 2 years of recruiting.

You couple that with the Mike Beasley decommit and numerous of other players decommitting (Cameron Tatum, Tennessee; Kenyon Harmon (who knows). And you've got two years in there of low value recruiting where JUCOs and transfers lead the way. It didn't allow us stability and hurt our players who were already here (Withers for instance).

Last year, Injuries killed this team. Gerrity (only backup PG) quit the team at the beginning of the year, our only true shooter besides Andersen (who can't play D very well) was freshman Shamarr Bowden and he went down with a season ending injury before he saw the court. Then our converted SF new backup PG Charles Dewhurst went down with a season ending injury in the Maryland game after having a great 1st half. & SF Anjuan Wilderness was hampered by injuries all year.

Lutz has had a lot of bad breaks lately, but the recruiting has picked up tremendously and we seem set to do damage this year with a bunch of new faces in Shamari Spears (BC), Chris Braswell (top 100), Shamarr Bowden, Derio Green, KJ Sherrill, Gokhan Sirin, & Trevin Parks ( I think that's all). The team will be anchored by returning players Dijuan Harris, Phil Jones, Anjuan Wilderness, Charles Dewhurst, Ian Andersen, and Rashad Coleman.

That's a ton of a talent on that team.

As for Miller,

Miller was by and far the best coach in the A10. I really do believe Pat Kelsey is the best coach on the staff, but that's my opinion. Chris Mack seems like a likable guy, but can he coach?

I doubt the recruiting drops off too far, because of the good crop of assistants that surround Mack, but I'm not convinced on Mack's game coaching.

[GuyFawkes38]

Miller was by and far the best coach in the A10. I really do believe Pat Kelsey is the best coach on the staff, but that's my opinion. Chris Mack seems like a likable guy, but can he coach?

I doubt the recruiting drops off too far, because of the good crop of assistants that surround Mack, but I'm not convinced on Mack's game coaching.

Mack's ability to game coach is a complete unknown. That's kind of why I, and some others, favored a coach with more experience.

But I guess that's all in the past now.

[kyxu]

Miller was by and far the best coach in the A10. I really do believe Pat Kelsey is the best coach on the staff, but that's my opinion. Chris Mack seems like a likable guy, but can he coach?

I doubt the recruiting drops off too far, because of the good crop of assistants that surround Mack, but I'm not convinced on Mack's game coaching.

Chris Mack has coached as many college games as Pat Kelsey (0), so I'm not sure how you can say one's game coaching is better than the other's.

There's a lot that's unknown, but Mack's the guy Mike Bobinski selected. I trust Bobinski, so I have faith.

[GuyFawkes38]

Chris Mack has coached as many college games as Pat Kelsey (0), so I'm not sure how you can say one's game coaching is better than the other's.

There's a lot that's unknown, but Mack's the guy Mike Bobinski selected. I trust Bobinski, so I have faith.

I trust Bobinski. But of course, I would be much less stressed out about the state of X basketball if Mack had 2-3 successful seasons as a head coach somewhere.

Thus far, Mack has made all the right moves in the off season, including twittering.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Lutz has done a good job here, could he have done better? Most certainly. The one thing that hurt Lutz and the transition to the A10 was recruiting before and after the transition. First of all we lost our top recruiter and one of the best in the country in Rob Moxley. The guy is responsible for a ton of our success over the years, tied to names like Rodney White (Freshman of the year in 01 and lottery pick), Diego Guevera, Demon Brown, Brendan Plavich, and so on. He left for Maryland and he recruited Grieves Vasquez while there (Maryland's best player).

Rob only spent a year with the terps before coming back, but that year through off about 2 years of recruiting.

You couple that with the Mike Beasley decommit and numerous of other players decommitting (Cameron Tatum, Tennessee; Kenyon Harmon (who knows). And you've got two years in there of low value recruiting where JUCOs and transfers lead the way. It didn't allow us stability and hurt our players who were already here (Withers for instance).

Last year, Injuries killed this team. Gerrity (only backup PG) quit the team at the beginning of the year, our only true shooter besides Andersen (who can't play D very well) was freshman Shamarr Bowden and he went down with a season ending injury before he saw the court. Then our converted SF new backup PG Charles Dewhurst went down with a season ending injury in the Maryland game after having a great 1st half. & SF Anjuan Wilderness was hampered by injuries all year.

Lutz has had a lot of bad breaks lately, but the recruiting has picked up tremendously and we seem set to do damage this year with a bunch of new faces in Shamari Spears (BC), Chris Braswell (top 100), Shamarr Bowden, Derio Green, KJ Sherrill, Gokhan Sirin, & Trevin Parks ( I think that's all). The team will be anchored by returning players Dijuan Harris, Phil Jones, Anjuan Wilderness, Charles Dewhurst, Ian Andersen, and Rashad Coleman.

That's a ton of a talent on that team.

As for Miller,

Miller was by and far the best coach in the A10. I really do believe Pat Kelsey is the best coach on the staff, but that's my opinion. Chris Mack seems like a likable guy, but can he coach?

I doubt the recruiting drops off too far, because of the good crop of assistants that surround Mack, but I'm not convinced on Mack's game coaching.

This might be the longest post that nobody cares about ever written on this board.

[Ninerballin]

That's really sweet. He sounds a lot like a Xavier coach, only less successful.

But I'm teasing. I have no reason to disrespect or think any ill of Bobby Lutz.



I'm interested to hear what you base this on.

I've talked to a few Wake fans, some big paying alums who don't miss basketball games and they thought Kelsey was as good if not better than Gaudio. Don't get me wrong, he probably still needs to learn more, but some of those same people said he's one of the best recruiters as far as top level talent goes that Wake has seen.

[Ninerballin]

This might be the longest post that nobody cares about ever written on this board.

If you don't care about it, why the hell did you feel compelled to replying? A bit of a contradiction eh? Also, unless someone appointed you God, I don't think you can speak for others on the board.

Edited. Learn manners on a board moderated by another fanbase Niner. This crap don't fly here.

[GuyFawkes38]

I've talked to a few Wake fans, some big paying alums who don't miss basketball games and they thought Kelsey was as good if not better than Gaudio. Don't get me wrong, he probably still needs to learn more, but some of those same people said he's one of the best recruiters as far as top level talent goes that Wake has seen.

It sounds like Guadio is starting to receive some pressure (I know Skip was also before he passed away).

The ACC is a brutal conference for coaches.

[Ninerballin]

It sounds like Guadio is starting to receive some pressure (I know Skip was also before he passed away).

The ACC is a brutal conference for coaches.

Gaudio will always be under pressure, Wake fans think they should be at the top of the ACC every year. It's hell to coach in the ACC unless you get the Prunell deal and get to go coach a dormat team in Clemson who's willing to overpay any coach just to make the NCAA Tournament.

[kyxu]

I've talked to a few Wake fans, some big paying alums who don't miss basketball games and they thought Kelsey was as good if not better than Gaudio. Don't get me wrong, he probably still needs to learn more, but some of those same people said he's one of the best recruiters as far as top level talent goes that Wake has seen.

So you're basing "your" opinion on what some Wake fans who sit behind the bench told you? Maybe I should ask them how they got that impression, as they probably witnessed first-hand the supergreat in-bounds play Pat Kelsey drew up that time.

Assistant coaches don't do a ton of in-game coaching to form much of a basis, especially for some fans sitting behind the bench.

And we all know Kelsey is a very gifted recruiter, but that's not the argument here.

[GuyFawkes38]

So you're basing "your" opinion on what some Wake fans who sit behind the bench told you? Maybe I should ask them how they got that impression, as they probably witnessed first-hand the supergreat in-bounds play Pat Kelsey drew up that time.

Assistant coaches don't do a ton of in-game coaching to form much of a basis, especially for some fans sitting behind the bench.

And we all know Kelsey is a very gifted recruiter, but that's not the argument here.

I know that Wake fans think highly of Kelsey and lowly of Gaudio.

In fact, I've heard that Gaudio is shopping for other job opportunities in fear for his future at Wake.

[Ninerballin]

So you're basing "your" opinion on what some Wake fans who sit behind the bench told you? Maybe I should ask them how they got that impression, as they probably witnessed first-hand the supergreat in-bounds play Pat Kelsey drew up that time.

Assistant coaches don't do a ton of in-game coaching to form much of a basis, especially for some fans sitting behind the bench.

And we all know Kelsey is a very gifted recruiter, but that's not the argument here.

Everyone knows about Kelsey's recruiting, but Kelsey also was the main guy who worked with the big men at Wake. He was the guy instrumental in helping James Johnson transform into the #16 overall pick this year in the NBA Draft.

He also worked extensively with future top ten pick Al-Forouq Aminu, and helped Chas McFarland develop into an impact player for the Deacs.

I don't care if you believe me or not, but if you don't think Kelsey knows how to draw up an inbounds play after years under Prosser, and years of playing at Wyoming & Xavier, then there's nothing I can say that can convince you.

Coaches who can recruit, can win (obviously), and Kelsey brought in a 1st round pick (James Johnson), a future lottery pick in Aminu, and a top 20 recruit in Center Tony Woods (sophomore this coming year) in his short time as an assistant at Wake.

EDIT- just looked through this thread again (thought I'd go back and find it). Seems like Kelsey was also the "go to guy" for the players when they had any issues.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=192&f=1118&t=4273123

Some quick quotes -


This is a big hit for Wake's program. Pat is the best recruiter on the staff. Based on comments he is also the "go to guy" for the players.

Also, losing an assistant to X is not a good sign, even if he is considered the number 2 assistant here and will be the top assistant at X.

Not a good day for the program.
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Great guy gave me a shot to work camp when he was DBO and gave me some great insight for my coaching career. I always saw Pat as a stand up guy who does all the right things. If he going to X I wish him amd his family well hopefully this will propel him into a well-deserved head coaching slot.



Kelsey's path to becoming a head coach much faster at X than Wake, especially the way that job turns over.


I am not in agreement with everyone here that this is a good career move. I think Pat is going to have a difficult time getting the same quality of kids to commit to Xavier as he has with Wake Forest. My feeling is that if he had put in another two years at Wake something very good would have happened.

Everyone assumes Chris Mack is destined for a high level spot, but that is a good five years away minimum. So ... I think by going to X, Kelsey is taking a longer route to a head coaching position at a major school.

I wish him well and hope only for the best. Just don't think this is a super wise decision.


Kelsey leaving Wake for a mid-major is a bad sign. Can't spin it otherwise.


This seems like a good move for Coach Kelsey and puts him closer to the X program where he played and served as team captain. Certainly can't blame him for that. Our recruits all mentioned Kelsey as a key factor in choosing Wake, so he will obviously be sorely missed on the recruiting front.

I agree with the others that getting somebody who can recruit into this coaching slot is key.

[D-West & PO-Z]

If you don't care about it, why the hell did you feel compelled to replying? A bit of a contradiction eh? Also, unless someone appointed you God, I don't think you can speak for others on the board.

BTW, do you attend SLU? If so you are trash. Transfer kid, If I saw a student on our campus wearing other conference member's apparel, after I would get done throwing up in my mouth a little, I'd probably go cuss the kid for all he's worth.

Uh, oh, dont do that! Man you have to be a tough guy. You would cuss him out for all he is worth!?

I am a strong supporter of SLU basketball, go to the majority of the games but I am not someone who chose my college because of the athletic program. Have been diehard Xavier basketball fan since birth and that is not something that was lost or even diminished once I went to college.

Anyway why should I be defending myself to someone who has probably never left Charlotte?

[D-West & PO-Z]

If you don't care about it, why the hell did you feel compelled to replying? A bit of a contradiction eh? Also, unless someone appointed you God, I don't think you can speak for others on the board.



I cared enough about how worthless the actual post was I felt compelled to reply.

[kyxu]

There's no doubt Kelsey is highly though of, both at Wake and at Xavier. We were all thrilled to bring Pat Kelsey back. However, nothing you've posted has given any indication or supported your argument that he's a better "all around" coach than Chris Mack.

Mack was a big figure under Sean Miller for both his recruiting ability and knowledge of the game, and many thought it would only be a matter of time before he would be lured with a head coaching job elsewhere.

In the end, I'm not sure your argument is really provable at this juncture, which is why I found it so curious.

And the "in bounds play" remark was a joke, of course.

[D-West & PO-Z]

There's no doubt Kelsey is highly though of, both at Wake and at Xavier. We were all thrilled to bring Pat Kelsey back. However, nothing you've posted has given any indication or supported your argument that he's a better "all around" coach than Chris Mack.

Mack was a big figure under Sean Miller for both his recruiting ability and knowledge of the game, and many thought it would only be a matter of time before he would be lured with a head coaching job elsewhere.

In the end, I'm not sure your argument is really provable at this juncture, which is why I found it so curious.

And the "in bounds play" remark was a joke, of course.

Wait, what? Didn't you read his post? He talked to some Wake fans, some who are big paying alums. They clearly know more than Mike Bobinski about who would be a better head coach for Xavier basketball at this point. C'mon ky, your reading comprehension is pretty bad tonight.

[danaandvictory]

If I saw a student on our campus wearing other conference member's apparel, after I would get done throwing up in my mouth a little, I'd probably go cuss the kid for all he's worth.

Then you are a complete freaking douchebag and a disgrace to your institution.

[kyxu]

C'mon ky, your reading apprehension is pretty bad tonight.

You're right. I am pretty apprehensive about reading Ninerballin's posts.

[D-West & PO-Z]

You're right. I am pretty apprehensive about reading Ninerballin's posts.

HA, sorry. It was a late night of studying and my brain was fried.

[Tardy Turtle]

BTW, do you attend SLU? If so you are trash. Transfer kid, If I saw a student on our campus wearing other conference member's apparel, after I would get done throwing up in my mouth a little, I'd probably go cuss the kid for all he's worth.

Not even a week in and we already have "July's Douchiest Post." No others need apply.

Well done, Ninerballin.

[danaandvictory]

Not even a week in and we already have "July's Douchiest Post." No others need apply.

Between that and ATF/MHettel's efforts on the softball thread it's going to be a hell of a choice this year.

[Ninerballin]

Not even a week in and we already have "July's Douchiest Post." No others need apply.

Well done, Ninerballin.

"Douchiest" whered you come up with that one? Is that a trending word in Cincinnati these days?

[Ninerballin]

Uh, oh, dont do that! Man you have to be a tough guy. You would cuss him out for all he is worth!?

I am a strong supporter of SLU basketball, go to the majority of the games but I am not someone who chose my college because of the athletic program. Have been diehard Xavier basketball fan since birth and that is not something that was lost or even diminished once I went to college.

Anyway why should I be defending myself to someone who has probably never left Charlotte?

Sounds like every Chapel Hill redneck around here. "I was pulling for tha HEELZ in the wound!" Like I said, transfer to Xavier, you're a disgrace to SLU.


Never left Charlotte? Haha. Almost right, I visited Ohio once, decided I better stay in Charlotte.

[Ninerballin]

Then you are a complete freaking douchebag and a disgrace to your institution.

Thanks, I'm glad you think so!

[kdawg23]

Back on topic, I hope I am wrong, but I don't think that Guyn ends up at Charlotte. Lot's of rumors going aroung about him possibly de-committing and he has even described it as a "soft verbal". Seems to be having a lot of second thoughts.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Sounds like every Chapel Hill redneck around here. "I was pulling for tha HEELZ in the wound!" Like I said, transfer to Xavier, you're a disgrace to SLU.


Never left Charlotte? Haha. Almost right, I visited Ohio once, decided I better stay in Charlotte.

In the wound? Pretty gross.

Like I said, I decided aginst picking my college based on sports affiliation, I know, what was I thinking!? Xavier doesnt even have the program I am in. The guy who apparently thinks people should pick schools based on sports affiliations is calling me a disgrace? I am pretty sure that no one from your school would want to claim you right now after reading these posts. Most likely no one from your message board either.

I just cant get over the concept that I am supposed to change what I want to become in life because I root for Xavier. You sir, are a freaking idiot.

[AviatorX]

Charlotte? We own them even more than we own Dayton as of late, and that's saying something.

(Yes, I know that your season was completed by upsetting Xavier on ESPN, so no need to mention that again.)

[danaandvictory]

Thanks, I'm glad you think so!

Sorry, if you think cursing at someone for wearing the T-shirt of another college for no good reason is acceptable behavior, please shoot yourself in the face.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Sounds like every Chapel Hill redneck around here. "I was pulling for tha HEELZ in the wound!" Like I said, transfer to Xavier, you're a disgrace to SLU.




Sorry, if you think cursing at someone for wearing the T-shirt of another college for no good reason is acceptable behavior, please shoot yourself in the face.

He clearly has issues. But I guess anyone would if they lived in North Carolina and was somehow a Charlotte fan as opposed to a UNC fan. Man, rough luck.

[AdamtheFlyer]

Sounds like every Chapel Hill redneck around here. "I was pulling for tha HEELZ in the wound!" Like I said, transfer to Xavier, you're a disgrace to SLU.


Never left Charlotte? Haha. Almost right, I visited Ohio once, decided I better stay in Charlotte.

Really? And I thought I sucked at smack talk.

Stick to them french fried potaters, mmmhmm.

[Ninerballin]

Really? And I thought I sucked at smack talk.

Stick to them french fried potaters, mmmhmm.

Adam you're from Dayton. Go back to your singlewide and hope your lighting bug jar doesn't run out tonight. Dayton is the pisstank of Ohio, I honestly think a bunch of West Virgina citizens moved up there and created the city. At least Cincy looks and feels like a high class city, Dayton on the other hand......

[Ninerballin]

He clearly has issues. But I guess anyone would if they lived in North Carolina and was somehow a Charlotte fan as opposed to a UNC fan. Man, rough luck.

Yea, I guess it makes no sense that someone would actually PULL for the school they go to above all others. Man what a concept!

[PMI]

Yea, I guess it makes no sense that someone would actually PULL for the school they go to above all others. Man what a concept!

Being a Xavier fan doesn't mean you don't pull for your school in the other games. I don't recall DWest ever having anything negative to say about the Billikens, perhaps maybe other than a Majerus fat joke. But I have noticed that Charlotte fans suffer from a major case of little dick syndrome when it comes to defending their team against the others in state. You guys are like the 13th most important team in your own state and you despise UNC, Duke, Wake, hell even Davidson fans. But I guess it must be pretty tough knowing you will never be in the Top 3 most relevant college basketball teams in your own state, no matter what you accomplish on the court.

Honestly though, if I were a Charlotte basketball fan I'd take my main shots at the state of Ohio rather than Xavier basketball too. I would probably rather live their than Ohio too, despite the amount of rednecks. Seriously, that place made me realize how big NASCAR really is in this country (mostly due to inbreeds of course.) I'd still probably choose to live their over Ohio because I'm big on weather. Fortunately, our players, coaches, AD, recruits, etc. don't feel the same way, thus the 49ers along with the other thirteen 2nd tier teams in the conference continue to smell the glove every year. I'll bet your school has hotter girls too. Still doesn't change the whole basketball thing.

So your smack talk is about the state of Ohio, an X fan at a different school, hotter girls, and pretty much everything non-basketball related. Makes me wonder why you waste your time here when you've got all those hot chicks and nice weather around.


Adam you're from Dayton. Go back to your singlewide and hope your lighting bug jar doesn't run out tonight. Dayton is the pisstank of Ohio, I honestly think a bunch of West Virgina citizens moved up there and created the city. At least Cincy looks and feels like a high class city, Dayton on the other hand......

I actually thought this was pretty funny.

[Ninerballin]

Being a Xavier fan doesn't mean you don't pull for your school in the other games. I don't recall DWest ever having anything negative to say about the Billikens, perhaps maybe other than a Majerus fat joke. But I have noticed that Charlotte fans suffer from a major case of little dick syndrome when it comes to defending their team against the others in state. You guys are like the 13th most important team in your own state and you despise UNC, Duke, Wake, hell even Davidson fans. But I guess it must be pretty tough knowing you will never be in the Top 3 most relevant college basketball teams in your own state, no matter what you accomplish on the court.

Honestly though, if I were a Charlotte basketball fan I'd take my main shots at the state of Ohio rather than Xavier basketball too. I would probably rather live their than Ohio too, despite the amount of rednecks. Seriously, that place made me realize how big NASCAR really is in this country (mostly due to inbreeds of course.) I'd still probably choose to live their over Ohio because I'm big on weather. Fortunately, our players, coaches, AD, recruits, etc. don't feel the same way, thus the 49ers along with the other thirteen 2nd tier teams in the conference continue to smell the glove every year. I'll bet your school has hotter girls too. Still doesn't change the whole basketball thing.

So your smack talk is about the state of Ohio, an X fan at a different school, hotter girls, and pretty much everything non-basketball related. Makes me wonder why you waste your time here when you've got all those hot chicks and nice weather around.



I actually thought this was pretty funny.

I spend some free time on here, sometimes when I'm bored with my phone in hand, I may have spent a total of 3 hours ever on here (if you combine all the time I've spent on this board).

The first part made me chuckle a little bit. Davidson fans wish they were Charlotte. Davidson's record against Charlotte is abysmal, and they've never once won in Hatlon Arena. You're right though, as far as fan support, we'll never be able to compete with Duke or Chapel Hill without football.

Wake basketball support isn't the best. When Withers was a senior we played them at their place, and our contingent of fans were much louder than theirs the whole game. On TV it was obvious as well as FORRTTTYYY-NINNNERR chants drowned out their arena. When they came to Bobcats Arena (now Time Warner Cable Arena) a year ago (Lee's senior year), they had maybe a thousand or 1500 fans show up. The rest were 49er fans, and it was no contest on the noise scale. I never heard the Wake fans at all, and there was quite a few of them around me.

I can understand pulling for your school, but honestly, I don't care if you go to UCLA or UC-SB. You should pull for your school FIRST in all cases. I don't care if your parents, your brother, your mommy, or daddy went there. To put another school (ESPECIALLY IN YOUR CONFERENCE) ahead of the school you attend, is absurd. Does it happen here? Of course it does.

Do the kids here who wear Chapel Hill crap on campus get jeered? You bet they do by the students who actually understand this simple concept.

As far as the "little dick" theory goes, that's the same crap Cincy fans said (and probably still do for some reason) about you guys for years when they were winning in CUSA with their Goon Squad.

[xuinnc]

If you don't care about it, why the hell did you feel compelled to replying? A bit of a contradiction eh? Also, unless someone appointed you God, I don't think you can speak for others on the board.

BTW, do you attend SLU? If so you are trash. Transfer kid, If I saw a student on our campus wearing other conference member's apparel, after I would get done throwing up in my mouth a little, I'd probably go cuss the kid for all he's worth.

i set up an account just to reply to this one thread...ninerballin, i go to xavier and i am from charlotte...i just completed a summer course at charlotte and i wore an x shirt almost every day and did not receive any crap at all for it so im real sorry you couldnt be there to cuss me out for all im worth...its a commuter school and there is hardly any pride on campus...i saw more unc, state, and even ecu shirts on campus then uncc ones. theres also a tiny school 15 min away that just produced the 7th pick in the nba draft so basically charlotte isn't even the most popular program in mecklenburg county...you guys slightly edge out the bobcats though

[MuskieCinci]

Niner, I don't understand your argument about having to root for the school you attend over any other school. What if a kid grows up in Cincinnati his whole life and all of his family went to Xavier and he had season tickets his whole life but he always wanted to be an engineer, should he HAVE to go to Xavier since that is the school he roots for? Should he turn down scholarships to great engineering schools just so he can continue to root for Xavier? I also don't think you can exactly choose who you root for. When it comes to making a selection for where you go to college you can sit down and think about it logically and pick the best school for you. When t comes to rooting for teams people just fall in love with certain teams and there isn't always a logical reason. As for wearing a rivals clothing around campus I definitely think that is a no-no and should probably get some dirty looks but you are a real ass if you would actually cuss someone out for it.

[GuyFawkes38]

i set up an account just to reply to this one thread...ninerballin, i go to xavier and i am from davidson...i just completed a summer course at charlotte and i wore an x shirt almost every day and did not receive any crap at all for it so im real sorry you couldnt be there to cuss me out for all im worth...its a commuter school and there is hardly any pride on campus...i saw more unc, state, and even ecu shirts on campus then uncc ones. theres also a tiny school 15 min away that just produced the 7th pick in the nba draft so basically charlotte isn't even the most popular program in mecklenburg county...you guys slightly edge out the bobcats though

I hate to be repetitive, but the above only strengthens the case for Lutz and the Charlotte program. There's a lot of competition within 150 miles of the school. Yet, Lutz and the Charlotte administration have built a really good program.

There's some great programs within a 150 miles of Xavier. But there's more of a recruiting base to back us up (Indiana and Ohio have been spectacular in the past 10 years).

[D-West & PO-Z]

i set up an account just to reply to this one thread...ninerballin, i go to xavier and i am from davidson...i just completed a summer course at charlotte and i wore an x shirt almost every day and did not receive any crap at all for it so im real sorry you couldnt be there to cuss me out for all im worth...its a commuter school and there is hardly any pride on campus...i saw more unc, state, and even ecu shirts on campus then uncc ones. theres also a tiny school 15 min away that just produced the 7th pick in the nba draft so basically charlotte isn't even the most popular program in mecklenburg county...you guys slightly edge out the bobcats though

Ha! I love it. The guy thinks he can make up whatever he wants because non of us are from there and then you come in and own him.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I hate to be repetitive, but the above only strengthens the case for Lutz and the Charlotte program. There's a lot of competition within 150 miles of the school. Yet, Lutz and the Charlotte administration have built a really good program.

There's some great programs within a 150 miles of Xavier. But there's more of a recruiting base to back us up (Indiana and Ohio have been spectacular in the past 10 years).

Charlotte has really gone downhill though since joining the A10. I thought they would be a top 4/5 team every year but they are .500 in league play and 1 game over .500 in overall games since joining the A10. They have been less than stellar.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Once again ninerballin if you could go back to your board that would be great. You know you arent welcome when you decide to disable your reputation because you were far into the red. You are a douche.

However if you do leave we would lose some of the comedy on the board. A Charlotte fan who cant talk basketball because their team has nothing to offer so he attacks Ohio and the fact that I chose my college based on my education and my future career instead of who I liked both in basketball.

[SixFig]

I have to side with a charlotte fan, but if you choose to go to a school you must cheer for that school, and that school alone, till death do you part. Alma mater means "nourishing mother" in Latin...that school chooses you and you choose it. To root for any other school, I don't care if your entire family, Jesus, and Gandhi went there, is tantamount to treason.

For example, two years ago a student at Xavier, lets call him St. Joes Douche (SJD), wears his St. Joes shirt everywhere on campus. No big deal, hell, he might be short on shirts. Then SJD shows up at the actual Xavier vs. St. Joes game decked out in Hawk gear. He causes a ruckus and is thrown out. SJD doesn't love Xavier, but is merely using it for an education. Its like marriage...St. Joes may have been his first flame but now its time to settle down with your the woman whose name is on your marriage certificate.

Your school's sport's team enhances the value of your degree to some extent (Less people call it Egg-savior than ever before and know exactly where XU is, for instance) so therefore you need to root for them above all else.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I have to side with a charlotte fan, but if you choose to go to a school you must cheer for that school, and that school alone, till death do you part. Alma mater means "nourishing mother" in Latin...that school chooses you and you choose it. To root for any other school, I don't care if your entire family, Jesus, and Gandhi went there, is tantamount to treason.

For example, two years ago a student at Xavier, lets call him St. Joes Douche (SJD), wears his St. Joes shirt everywhere on campus. No big deal, hell, he might be short on shirts. Then SJD shows up at the actual Xavier vs. St. Joes game decked out in Hawk gear. He causes a ruckus and is thrown out. SJD doesn't love Xavier, but is merely using it for an education. Its like marriage...St. Joes may have been his first flame but now its time to settle down with your the woman whose name is on your marriage certificate.

Your school's sport's team enhances the value of your degree to some extent (Less people call it Egg-savior than ever before and know exactly where XU is, for instance) so therefore you need to root for them above all else.

I agree with nothing you just said. But as you have not experienced it I would expect you to be ignorant on the topic.

SLU wasnt even in the A10 my first year in college it was a non issue until my sophomore year. Anyway I have always been first and foremost a Xavier basketball fan. I have become a very big SLU basketball fan and support them to the fullest, except when they play Xavier. I even said on this board (or was it the SLU board?) that if Xavier and SLU would have met in the A10 tourney semi-finals that I probably would secretly be hoping deep down that SLU won as their only way into the tourney would have been A10 tourney champs. I wanted Lisch and Liddell to get that.

Anyway I am was not able, nor dis I want to be able, to drop my allegiance to Xavier basketball for the 18 years leading up to before I went to college, and automatically become more of a SLU fan than Xavier fan. That doesnt even make sense.

I chose my school based on what program I wanted to be in and the fact that I wanted to get away from Ohio for a while. I actually know people who have admitted to going to schools based on football teams and other sports teams. I have a cousin who went to OSU because she wanted to go to a school with a football team even though they it put her in a tougher spot for the major she wanted to major in.

Anyway I no longer feel I have to defend my position as I have already done so and others have done for me.

[PMI]

I hate to be repetitive, but the above only strengthens the case for Lutz and the Charlotte program. There's a lot of competition within 150 miles of the school. Yet, Lutz and the Charlotte administration have built a really good program.

There's some great programs within a 150 miles of Xavier. But there's more of a recruiting base to back us up (Indiana and Ohio have been spectacular in the past 10 years).

You contradict your point here. There's a lot of competition within 150 miles of us too. To say the talent in Indiana and Ohio is better than the Carolinas, Georgia, Virginia, etc. doesn't make sense. Plus, the top two schools in the state, Duke and UNC, recruit nationally as much as any program could, so it's not like they're just hogging all the in-area talent ala OSU some years. What Lutz has done for Charlotte is no more impressive than what Coles has done for Miami, or at Western Kentucky, or at Wright State even. Don't act like Lutz is so special for leading a UNCC team to mediocrity in the A10 while having such an uphill battle recruiting in arguably THE basketball state. It's really no more impressive than a lot of other programs, which is why they're mediocre.

[GuyFawkes38]

You contradict your point here. There's a lot of competition within 150 miles of us too. To say the talent in Indiana and Ohio is better than the Carolinas, Georgia, Virginia, etc. doesn't make sense. Plus, the top two schools in the state, Duke and UNC, recruit nationally as much as any program could, so it's not like they're just hogging all the in-area talent ala OSU some years. What Lutz has done for Charlotte is no more impressive than what Coles has done for Miami, or at Western Kentucky, or at Wright State even. Don't act like Lutz is so special for leading a UNCC team to mediocrity in the A10 while having such an uphill battle recruiting in arguably THE basketball state. It's really no more impressive than a lot of other programs, which is why they're mediocre.

I'm really tired.

But still, the part in the bold doesn't make much sense to me. I stated that there's some great programs within a 150 mile radius of us too.

How exactly am I contradicting myself?

And I think it's undeniably true that the talent coming out of Ohio and central/eastern Indiana has been spectacular for the past 10 years (much better than the talent coming from the football enthused and less densely populated south). ACC schools have to look nationally. Schools around us, including OSU which almost won a championship, don't have to look nationally.

[GuyFawkes38]

I'm not sure if I explained myself well in the previous post.

The Big East is a great conference because there's a lot of basketball talent in such a densely populated region in the country.

The Big 10 has also benefited from the talent of the midwest.

On the other hand, there's a lot less talent coming from the south. Yet, the ACC proves to be the best conference in the country because such schools have tradition and attract players nationally.

It's impressive that schools like Charlotte and Davidson have built such good programs in a region that relies on national recruiting.

[SixFig]

I agree with nothing you just said. But as you have not experienced it I would expect you to be ignorant on the topic.

SLU wasnt even in the A10 my first year in college it was a non issue until my sophomore year. Anyway I have always been first and foremost a Xavier basketball fan. I have become a very big SLU basketball fan and support them to the fullest, except when they play Xavier. I even said on this board (or was it the SLU board?) that if Xavier and SLU would have met in the A10 tourney semi-finals that I probably would secretly be hoping deep down that SLU won as their only way into the tourney would have been A10 tourney champs. I wanted Lisch and Liddell to get that.

Anyway I am was not able, nor dis I want to be able, to drop my allegiance to Xavier basketball for the 18 years leading up to before I went to college, and automatically become more of a SLU fan than Xavier fan. That doesnt even make sense.

I chose my school based on what program I wanted to be in and the fact that I wanted to get away from Ohio for a while. I actually know people who have admitted to going to schools based on football teams and other sports teams. I have a cousin who went to OSU because she wanted to go to a school with a football team even though they it put her in a tougher spot for the major she wanted to major in.

Anyway I no longer feel I have to defend my position as I have already done so and others have done for me.

What do you mean "not experienced it"? What, choosing a college? Going out of state? Dropping an old favorite team?

I am not a lifetime fan of Xavier basketball. An Albany, NY native, I knew only a little about it (Tournament success, Crosstown shootouts, Lionel Chalmers went to my high school etc). Only after choosing to go to X did I dig deep into Xavier hoops. I dropped any allegiances I had and picked up the banner of Xavier.

It makes perfect sense. You can't have your cake and eat it too. SLU and X can't both win. A man cannot serve two masters. No matter how you determine your Alma Mater, the sports team goes along with it. If I wanted to be an engineer and went to Virginia Tech, I would be having nightmares of Dante Jackson right now. Its a hard choice to make, to drop your childhood team. But that's why they call it sacrifice. Stanley Burrell rooted for IU, I believe, as a kid. Now he bleeds Xavier blue, and not just because of basketball.

I suppose we can agree to disagree. Just don't call others ignorant...

[danaandvictory]

What if a kid grows up in Cincinnati his whole life and all of his family went to Xavier and he had season tickets his whole life but he always wanted to be an engineer, should he HAVE to go to Xavier since that is the school he roots for? Should he turn down scholarships to great engineering schools just so he can continue to root for Xavier?

This is pretty much my biography, except substituting "pursue a specific course of study" for "be an engineer".

[AdamtheFlyer]

Once again ninerballin if you could go back to your board that would be great. You know you arent welcome when you decide to disable your reputation because you were far into the red. You are a douche.

However if you do leave we would lose some of the comedy on the board. A Charlotte fan who cant talk basketball because their team has nothing to offer so he attacks Ohio and the fact that I chose my college based on my education and my future career instead of who I liked both in basketball.

Winning post. Back into a corner with nothing to go on, start throwing verbal punches. It's pretty much what the entire A10 board has become. People get so deep in an argument, try so hard to win, that they end up looking stupid.

It's a stupid argument. Myself, I grew up a Flyer fan. My maternal grandfater played for Coach Blackburn. I went to every game as a kid, attended Purnell's camp every year, all of that. So because I got a free education from another school I have to throw that out the window?

Doesn't work like that. I am forever thankful for my alma mater, and support the athletics with time and money, but the teams don't hold my heart. It's more of a business relationship. They gave me so much, it's only right to give a little back. I'm able to separate what happens on the floor with what happens behind the scenes.

[kyxu]

Niner, I don't understand your argument about having to root for the school you attend over any other school. What if a kid grows up in Cincinnati his whole life and all of his family went to Xavier and he had season tickets his whole life but he always wanted to be an engineer, should he HAVE to go to Xavier since that is the school he roots for? Should he turn down scholarships to great engineering schools just so he can continue to root for Xavier? I also don't think you can exactly choose who you root for. When it comes to making a selection for where you go to college you can sit down and think about it logically and pick the best school for you. When t comes to rooting for teams people just fall in love with certain teams and there isn't always a logical reason. As for wearing a rivals clothing around campus I definitely think that is a no-no and should probably get some dirty looks but you are a real ass if you would actually cuss someone out for it.

I can't even believe this argument has to be made. This just seems like common understanding to me.

The people who believe they have to choose their academic institution of higher learning based off of their favorite team are the same kinds of people who won't speak to and refuse to associate with others just because of where they went to school. These kinds of people are completely out of touch with reality.

[Ninerballin]

i set up an account just to reply to this one thread...ninerballin, i go to xavier and i am from charlotte...i just completed a summer course at charlotte and i wore an x shirt almost every day and did not receive any crap at all for it so im real sorry you couldnt be there to cuss me out for all im worth...its a commuter school and there is hardly any pride on campus...i saw more unc, state, and even ecu shirts on campus then uncc ones. theres also a tiny school 15 min away that just produced the 7th pick in the nba draft so basically charlotte isn't even the most popular program in mecklenburg county...you guys slightly edge out the bobcats though

Not the most popular program in Meck. County? I guess you've never been to Davidson's HS gym or you've never been to a Charlotte/Davidson game. It's bad enough they they've never won in Halton Arena, and if you make the trip up to their tiny gym for the a Charlotte/Davidson game, you would know that Gym is taken over by 49er fans.

You were on campus in the summer dimwit, how many people actually stay on campus in the summer for summer courses? I'd say 80% (probably more) of the kids on campus in the summer are HS kids attending SOAR sessions.

Yea, there's a collection of Chapel Hill shirts on campus all year long. When you're a public university of 20k plus, you're going to have those. Does it piss me off? You bet, but let's say I saw a kid wearing a UMass shirt around campus, I'd definitely confront him about it. A lot of the tar hole fans on campus are idiots who've never touched foot in Chapel Hill. I tell every one of them they should transfer. They have no excuses as far as tuition goes, since all 4 of those you mentioned are public schools.

Of course, it goes the other way around, I know kids who go to other schools that come down for some 49er basketball games.

Since you're new, I'm going to offer a little tip next time you post: please use the ENTER key to make your post more legible. Thanks.

[Ninerballin]

I have to side with a charlotte fan, but if you choose to go to a school you must cheer for that school, and that school alone, till death do you part. Alma mater means "nourishing mother" in Latin...that school chooses you and you choose it. To root for any other school, I don't care if your entire family, Jesus, and Gandhi went there, is tantamount to treason.

For example, two years ago a student at Xavier, lets call him St. Joes Douche (SJD), wears his St. Joes shirt everywhere on campus. No big deal, hell, he might be short on shirts. Then SJD shows up at the actual Xavier vs. St. Joes game decked out in Hawk gear. He causes a ruckus and is thrown out. SJD doesn't love Xavier, but is merely using it for an education. Its like marriage...St. Joes may have been his first flame but now its time to settle down with your the woman whose name is on your marriage certificate.

Your school's sport's team enhances the value of your degree to some extent (Less people call it Egg-savior than ever before and know exactly where XU is, for instance) so therefore you need to root for them above all else.

Exactly, first of all I could care less if someone goes to a university and pulls for another team, as long as they don't go around like an ass flashing that schools apparel around campus like they are there recruiting our students right off our campus.

That's one thing, but when you come to the student section flashing other schools gear around like you're a badass, then that's another story. That deserves an asskicking.

I guess I should've asked these earlier before I typed, but:
So DWest, do you show up in X gear when X plays @ SLU? Do you sport your X clothing around campus?

[Ninerballin]

Once again ninerballin if you could go back to your board that would be great. You know you arent welcome when you decide to disable your reputation because you were far into the red. You are a douche.

However if you do leave we would lose some of the comedy on the board. A Charlotte fan who cant talk basketball because their team has nothing to offer so he attacks Ohio and the fact that I chose my college based on my education and my future career instead of who I liked both in basketball.

What's with the word douche? Honestly you hear it every now and then around here, but you'd think the term originated on this board. You guys even have posters giving out awards with made up words involving douche. Wierd. I think I've seen the word douche more on this message board in the past couple of days than I have in the past two years.

But, big deal, douche, what a deteriorating word, I think I'm going to go cry now!:rolleyes:

Also, I turned my reputation back on, like I care about reputation. I just turned it off because I was playing around with my profile. I'm glad it matters so much to you, because it sure doesn't to me.

As a matter of fact, can everyone who reads this post please negative rep me so I can get more red bars for DWest? I'm kind of pissed I went from 2 red bars to 1 red bar.

As for your comment Adam, I'm sorry but:


AdamtheFlyer
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[xufan02]

Per Jody Demling, Ge'lawn's verbal is soft.

http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs/demling/blog.html

[Ninerballin]

Per Jody Demling, Ge'lawn's verbal is soft.

http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs/demling/blog.html

Not good. I'm really looking forward to seeing Ge'lawn in a Niner uni.

[Tardy Turtle]

I hate to be repetitive

This is a lie.

[X Factor]

Ya gotta hate the flacid verbal.

[D-West & PO-Z]

What do you mean "not experienced it"? What, choosing a college? Going out of state? Dropping an old favorite team?

I am not a lifetime fan of Xavier basketball. An Albany, NY native, I knew only a little about it (Tournament success, Crosstown shootouts, Lionel Chalmers went to my high school etc). Only after choosing to go to X did I dig deep into Xavier hoops. I dropped any allegiances I had and picked up the banner of Xavier.

It makes perfect sense. You can't have your cake and eat it too. SLU and X can't both win. A man cannot serve two masters. No matter how you determine your Alma Mater, the sports team goes along with it. If I wanted to be an engineer and went to Virginia Tech, I would be having nightmares of Dante Jackson right now. Its a hard choice to make, to drop your childhood team. But that's why they call it sacrifice. Stanley Burrell rooted for IU, I believe, as a kid. Now he bleeds Xavier blue, and not just because of basketball.

I suppose we can agree to disagree. Just don't call others ignorant...

What team did you drop alliegeance to? You didnt even mention them so I am sure it wasnt a team you rooted for diehard your entire life. So yes, you are ignorant on the topic.

And the Stanley Burrell comparison is not a good one. He played basketball for XU.

[D-West & PO-Z]

But, big deal, douche, what a deteriorating word, I think I'm going to go cry now!:rolleyes:



Ha! Coming from the tough guy who would confront someone on campus for wearing UMASS shirt!

[D-West & PO-Z]

I guess I should've asked these earlier before I typed, but:
So DWest, do you show up in X gear when X plays @ SLU? Do you sport your X clothing around campus?

X has not played in SLU's new stadium yet. In the Scott Trade Center where SLU used to play it was so big I did not have to sit in the student section if I did not want to. So I would go in my Xavier #34 Llyod Price jersey and cheer for XU. Never once did I entice other SLU fans into a fight or act inappropriate.

I will not be here next year for the game here as I will be in Phoenix for a clinical rotation so it will not be an issue. I also have two Xavier shirts I wear around campus occasionally and never once in 6 years has a person made a comment to me about it. Never. I cheer for both teams one a little harder than the other. There is one time a year sometimes two where I cannot root for SLU to my fullest. Not a big deal. You have issues dude.

[kdawg23]

Per Jody Demling, Ge'lawn's verbal is soft.

http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs/demling/blog.html

Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen that earlier when I posted, but was refering to this blog entry.
http://www.allkyhoops.com/2009/07/gelawn-guyn-to-decommit-from-charlotte.html

[AviatorX]

Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen that earlier when I posted, but was refering to this blog entry.
http://www.allkyhoops.com/2009/07/gelawn-guyn-to-decommit-from-charlotte.html

Good get for Charlotte...;)

[PMI]

I'm really tired.

But still, the part in the bold doesn't make much sense to me. I stated that there's some great programs within a 150 mile radius of us too.

How exactly am I contradicting myself?

And I think it's undeniably true that the talent coming out of Ohio and central/eastern Indiana has been spectacular for the past 10 years (much better than the talent coming from the football enthused and less densely populated south). ACC schools have to look nationally. Schools around us, including OSU which almost won a championship, don't have to look nationally.

Look, I know the talent in that area has been good, but don't act like it's been number 1 or so much better than other places. There are areas of the east coast that have been at least as good over the past decade. The point is, if you give Lutz credit for doing more with less, which I disagree with, you have to give all the mediocre schools in XU's area credit too. It's foolish to think those schools have some better pool of talent to choose from than Charlotte. Actually, I would go the opposite way in terms of whose got an easier opportunity to build a good program. Charlotte is closer to a real beach and has better weather (and arguably women) than all those midwest schools, yet they still can't get near where they were a decade or so ago. I really think you give Lutz too much credit and I think there are lots of coaches (many in the midwest) that would do a much better job at a school that, quite frankly, has every resource to be a regular A10 contender and tournament team. Just my opinion, but I don't think there's anything special about Bobby Lutz.

[Ninerballin]

Our beat writer Jim Utter said Ge'lawn was 100% Charlotte decked out in Charlotte gear the past few days in Cincy at a AAU tournament where his AAU team, Indiana Elite, has made the final four of the tournament.

Charlotte coaches have been on hand at the AAU tournament, and a guy who's from KY, watches a ton of Scott County games, talks to Ge'lawn on a regular basis, and been posting on our since Ge'lawn's commitment said that Ge'lawn said he hasn't talked to the media.

He said Ge'lawn will definitely be suiting up for Charlotte in 2010-11 and has no doubts about that.

[ThePowerOfX]

And he has re-opened his recruiting process...