Wise returning to AZ

[pickledpigsfeet]

According to the bottom line on ESPN, Nic Wise is pulling out of the NBA draft and is returning to Arizona.

Not that a lot of people care, because of Miller leaving Xavier, but I thought I would mention it. He may have something to work with there after all.

[GuyFawkes38]

He was never a 1st rounder. I think he thought about playing in Europe. Probably a good choice to stay another year.

Edit: he was never really in the realm of being a 2nd rounder either.

[sirthought]

Nick Wise is a good college PG. Miller is lucky to have him on the squad, but next year should be a challenge with a new coach and system.

Cincinnati was hoping to have Wise, but I think Cronin is trying to be more like XU and get guys who will stay for four years, if possible. The kid certainly doesn't want to be in school.

[GuyFawkes38]

Nick Wise is a good college PG. Miller is lucky to have him on the squad, but next year should be a challenge with a new coach and system.

Cincinnati was hoping to have Wise, but I think Cronin is trying to be more like XU and get guys who will stay for four years, if possible. The kid certainly doesn't want to be in school.

Very true Sir. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think UC ever recruited the top talents that other top 15 schools brought in.

Recruiting at UC was always a challenge for even the great Bob Huggins, who often had to get creative and seek top juco players.

I'm not a big Huggins fans, but he worked miracles at UC.

[golfitup]

I hate my life

[AviatorX]

Nic Wise is an undersized PG who is a good college player.

Derrick Brown is a freak athlete who has an incredibly high ceiling.

Nothing to report here. Wise should have a good time playing PG for Miller, just ask Tutu how much fun it is having him on you ass 24/7.

[Raoul Duke]

Nic Wise is an undersized PG who is a good college player.

Derrick Brown is a freak athlete who has an incredibly high ceiling.

Nothing to report here. Wise should have a good time playing PG for Miller, just ask Tutu how much fun it is having him on you ass 24/7.

Tutu needed it. Lavender did just fine under Miller.

[AviatorX]

Tutu needed it. Lavender did just fine under Miller.

I didn't say PG's didn't perform under Miller, just that he is wayyyyy harder on them than the rest of the team.

I really don't think he needed it. At some points last year, there was literally no margin for error for Holloway before he would be pulled, IMO, he was at his best when he was able to get into the flow of his game after shaking off a few quick mistakes.

[kyxu]

I didn't say PG's didn't perform under Miller, just that he is wayyyyy harder on them than the rest of the team.

I really don't think he needed it. At some points last year, there was literally no margin for error for Holloway before he would be pulled, IMO, he was at his best when he was able to get into the flow of his game after shaking off a few quick mistakes.

Honestly, I wouldn't have it any other way. I knew Miller was hard on Tutu, and had no problem with it. Holloway was (sometimes) running the show on a top 15 team with a lot of veterans, so Miller needed to demand and expect a little more from the freshman point guard. And there were times when Terrell made some pretty terrible mistakes in trying to do too much or just not being focused, which is what often sent Miller into a frenzy.

It's understood that freshmen will be freshmen, but Holloway is really good, and once the calendar hit January and February, Miller needed to take off the kid gloves for the good of the team. It would have been a great disservice to the team and Terrell's future if Miller wasn't as demanding of Holloway as he was.

[Juice]

Very true Sir. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think UC ever recruited the top talents that other top 15 schools brought in.

Recruiting at UC was always a challenge for even the great Bob Huggins, who often had to get creative and seek top juco players.

I'm not a big Huggins fans, but he worked miracles at UC.

I have no idea what Huggins' recruiting classes were like overall but the one year he did get Satterfield and Johnson who were both top 10 or 20 players that year. That year may have been the exception though.

[Muskie]

until this thread I had no idea who this player was.

[D-West & PO-Z]

until this thread I had no idea who this player was.

Seriously?

[Muskie]

Seriously?

I don't follow the Pac-10 very closely, and all I knew about Airzona last season was that Lute was out and that there was some sort of friction between the Pastner camp and the Kevin O'neal camp.

Pac-10 games are on late, and as I get older (more responsible) I don't stay up to watch them on a work night.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I don't follow the Pac-10 very closely, and all I knew about Airzona last season was that Lute was out and that there was some sort of friction between the Pastner camp and the Kevin O'neal camp.

Pac-10 games are on late, and as I get older (more responsible) I don't stay up to watch them on a work night.

Oh I got ya. We have talked about him possibly returning or not on here before. I was hoping he wouldnt go back. Thats a big plus for Miller.

[Muskie]

Oh I got ya. We have talked about him possibly returning or not on here before. I was hoping he wouldnt go back. Thats a big plus for Miller.

Got it. I've tried to stay away from any Arizona talk, so I obviously missed the previous threads.

[AdamtheFlyer]

Yeah, that takes Arizona from a probable NIT berth to a near lock for the NCAA. All they need is 18-20 wins, and they'll get it. A school like that gets to play by different rules.

[PMI]

You never know whether this will be better or worse for Miller. Obviously, he was a good college player, and I have no idea about his attitude/conduct but I can tell you that as promising as Dedrick Finn was his first two years, everyone involved with the 04-05 team would have been better off had he transferred. Finn and Miller didn't get along and it showed on and off the court. We all remember how that season went. If Wise comes back and respects Miller and gets along with him, it will work out fine. Unfortunately for us, that wasn't the case with Finn after Matta left.

[AviatorX]

You never know whether this will be better or worse for Miller. Obviously, he was a good college player, and I have no idea about his attitude/conduct but I can tell you that as promising as Dedrick Finn was his first two years, everyone involved with the 04-05 team would have been better off had he transferred. Finn and Miller didn't get along and it showed on and off the court. We all remember how that season went. If Wise comes back and respects Miller and gets along with him, it will work out fine. Unfortunately for us, that wasn't the case with Finn after Matta left.

I sort of see where you're coming from, and I'm all for putting a negative spin toward Zona on this situation, but Nic Wise is one of the leading candidates for Pac 10 POY, Finn was never that good and certainly not a game breaker like Wise can be.

[Roach]

I have no idea what Huggins' recruiting classes were like overall but the one year he did get Satterfield and Johnson who were both top 10 or 20 players that year. That year may have been the exception though.

Huggins recruited some other high level recruits to UC. Dontonio Wingfield and Danny Fortson are obvious examples, but even Damon Flint, Melvin Levett, and Steve Logan were HS All-Americans. They may not have materialized as legitimate NBA prospects, but they were highly sought out of high school. Also, Huggins is clearly adept at luring some of the best JUCO talent every year, which is not suprising given his track record with academics. Names like Nick Van Exel, Ruben Patterson, Art Long, and Pete Mickael come to mind.

I'm not a Huggins apologist (in fact, I despise the man), but he definitely recruited some high-level talent at UC.

[jco17]

Nic Wise was the number 1 player in his class at one point in time, but he never grew. He led his hs teams to a couple 5A state titles in Texas and just nearly missed another one. He's one of the all time winningest pg's in the state of Texas HS Basketball. He commited to play for Arizona when he was in 9th grade and this year will be player for his fifth different coach in as many years. There was a ton of turbulance going on at Arizona, but he wants to be at Arizona, and he's been one of the most commited players that we've ever had. He's just had to deal with a lot of crap and it almost ran him off, but he believes in coach Miller and has wanted to be a Wildcat his entire life.

He is one of the best pg's in the country and will be a candidate all season long for Pac 10 POY. The public perception of Wise is way off from the type of person he really is and others have criticized him for exploring other options. If Miller had not landed this great recruiting class and the team was entirely decimated like it looked it would be in the beginning, there was no reason for Nic to be in Tucson. He could have pursued a much better option somewhere else and I would have understood.

Nic and his family have been completly honest and made well informed decisions, based on facts. Each time he waited to see what Arizona was going to do, he spoke with the coaching staff, and decided to come back to Arizona. He's a very high character young man and has conducted himeself with class throughout his entire time in Tucson. Believe me there were plenty of others that didn't and I will not name them, but they are no longer with our program.

[jco17]

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=jn-wise061909&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

This may be a little helpful.