Darwin Davis (COMMIT XAVIER)

[Runningman]

Point guard
Bloomington (IN) Bloomington South
Ht: 5-foot-9
Wt: 160 lbs
Class: 2011 (High School)

Interest:
Indiana, Iowa, Tennessee, Xavier, Butler, Ohio.

Offers:
Xavier, Ohio, Purdue

Very solid floor leader, Drew Lavender like guard who is quick as hell and a nice passer. Being from Bloomington, I would imagine it might be tough getting Davis away from IU if they offer him.

[AviatorX]

We're in early, so that can't hurt.

I think some may overrate the lure of playing for IU for those from the state of Indiana, although he is from Bloomington so there may be a stronger connection.

[xufan02]

IU already has a verbal from a PG for 2011. I'm not saying they would not take two, but Darwin would have to compete with a player in his class for time.

[Muskie]

IU is under a lot of pressure from their fanbase to start collecting local talent. In my opinion they will get around to offering Davis a scholarship at some point. It will be up to Davis to determine if IU is really a plausible scenario by then.

Not to mention that IU has quite a logjam of scholarships in the 2008 and 2009 classes. We'll have to see how it plays out.

[toledomuskie]

Bloomington South guard Dee Davis has added an offer from Xavier University and new Musketeers head coach Chris Mack.

The 5-foot-11 sophomore made an unofficial visit to the campus and added the offer to go along with those from Ohio University and New Mexico.

Davis averaged 13.2 points a game and helped Bloomington South to a 26-0 record.

http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs/demling/blog.html

[boozehound]

We just offered a sophomore who's only other offers are New Mexico and Ohio.

Huh.

[AviatorX]

We just offered a sophomore who's only other offers are New Mexico and Ohio.

Huh.

It's early. X is the first of what will likely be many major programs to offer.

[LutherRackleyRulez]

Jody Demling, who writes a superb recruiting blog for the Louisville C-J,

had a recent blog posting re: Mr Davis....



http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs/demling/2009/04/indy-pg-talent.html

[MuskieMark]

New Mexico eh? Wonder what kind of connections Steve Alford has kept in Btown

[Runningman]

We just offered a sophomore who's only other offers are New Mexico and Ohio.

Huh.

Xavier has definitely moved up in the recruiting world but they still have to get in early with elite players to increase their odds. Xavier has yet to earn the privilege to hold off on guys they like and offer late. With the 2010 class looking to shape up soon, Mack and Co. have intelligently shifted their attention to the 2011. Word is Dee has some great talent to him and I would love to see the Muskies land him.

[DoubleD86]

To add to this, his Rivals page shows he is being recruited by (although not offered by) Purdue, Cincinnati, Indiana, Tennessee, and Iowa.

He must have some talent to be getting looked at from those schools.

[A10fan]

We just offered a sophomore who's only other offers are New Mexico and Ohio.

Huh.


How many offers did Jordan Latham have when he committed? James Madison and Richmond. Don't look at the offers given to sophs. unless they are top 25. Davis will have a ton of major D1 offers before his senior year.

[boozehound]

Fair enough. Personally I'm not crazy about recruiting Sophomores at all, but that is a part of the recruiting landscape so we have to play the game. I always kind of scoff when a school offers a 15 year old kid a scholarship. A lot can change from Sophomore year of high school to college.

[Muskie]

Davis now has a Purdue Offer.

[Raoul Duke]

When it comes to recruiting, it's survival of the fittest.

Sorry.

[AviatorX]

When it comes to recruiting, it's survival of the fittest.

Sorry.

Was Davis naturally selected by god to be the PG that leads XU to the title?

[golfitup]

I don't believe in evolution.

[SixFig]

Was Davis naturally selected by god to be the PG that leads XU to the title?

Nope, whoever God picks to win the Holloway/Lyons competition will be the PG to lead XU to the title.

[kyxu]

Darwin Davis would be a fantastic pick-up for Xavier. Hope we remain in the picture for as long as we can.

[therick44]

I really like Dee's game. The only thing at this point holding him back is his size.

It'd be nice to see them go after a guy like this who is a true PG and not a scoring PG or Combo guard.

[Nocalmuskie]

...from the HeraldTimes ...

http://blogs.heraldtimesonline.com/quickhits/?p=2052

It’s the summer. It’s a teenager’s job to sleep in.

So it’s easy to forgive South guard Dee Davis for being asleep at 11 a.m. Monday. It is equally forgivable that Dayton assistant coach Jon Borovich woke Davis up with a phone call.

Monday was the first day college coaches could call Davis.

Borovich was first, but Davis also heard from Xavier head coach Chris Mack, Michigan assistant John Mahoney and a coach at Ohio State. There were a few others, but Davis could not remember everyone.

Davis, who has offers from Purdue and Xavier, visited Xavier last week with South assistant coach Kyle Simpson. Davis was able to play in a pickup game with some of the current Musketeers.

He said former IU guard Jordan Crawford was “something else,” but that he felt like he was able to play with them. That is, when they were not fouling Davis to keep him from scoring.

The 5-foot-10 rising junior was invited to Indiana’s Elite Camp, but said he had mixed up the date and times and found out too late he had missed it. Oops.

[THRILLHOUSE]

After reading that I'm more excited about Jordan Crawford than anything about this recruit. Losing Brown hurts, but I cannot wait to see Crawford out there.

[More Cowbell]

I remember watching the blue/white games last year and Crawford was sick. In my opinion he was the best player on the court.

[Xpectations]

Miller has stated that Crawford could be remembered as Xavier's best-ever shooting guard.

Anyone attending the postseason banquet will recall BJ Raymond looking across the entire crowd (3 different times throughout his speech) and stating, "You guys are in for a big treat ... and I mean a big treat!" when referring to Jordan Crawford.

The consensus was that Crawford was going to be our best player next year -- even with Brown returning, and comfortably so.

There is a very legitimate chance that we will only get to watch him for one year wearing Xavier blue & white.

[Juice]

I like the part about him missing the IU camp because he messed up the dates, whatver it takes to keep our competitors away.

[Madfan]

Forgetting the dates was a tackful way of saying he's not interested in IU. I am impressed that this teenager showed his respect to our current players. Would be interested to know what Crawford thought of him?

[Madfan]

I agree with Boozehound that recruiting starts way to early. A kid with maturity will not commit until after their Junior season IMO. You never know what will happen in a coaching staff two-three years in advance.

[DC Muskie]

There's an idea that bigger schools, like Duke, need to move in quicker with their recruiting, ratherthen waiting like they have done in the past, mostly because schools like Xavier land kids quicker because they get in quicker.

[principal]

The consensus was that Crawford was going to be our best player next year -- even with Brown returning, and comfortably so.

But just imagine Brown playing with Lyons and Crawford? Nice.

[Xpectations]

But just imagine Brown playing with Lyons and Crawford? Nice.

Trust me. I have. We would have been just stupid good next year with DBrown. You could put multiple lineups on the court with just ridiculous athleticism.

Imagine being able to put McLean, Brown, Jackson, Crawford and Lyons on the court together at the same time. That is some freakin' freakish athleticism.

Damn, what might have been.

[ChrisFarley]

Davis will probably got Purdue or IU, he's an Indiana kid.

[ballyhoohoo]

Davis will probably got Purdue or IU, he's an Indiana kid.

I would not put money on that notion.

Top talent has been leaving the state of Indiana for years. Only with the class of 2009 has the trend reversed a little the past two years.

But looking at the Indiana All-Star Teams/ Mr. Basketball winners from the past few years will show that top talent has been leaving Indiana left and right.

(4/9 to in state schools)
2002 Sean May, UNC
2003 Justin Cage, Xavier
2004 AJ Ratlif, IU
2005 Luke Zeller, ND
2006 Greg Oden, OSU
2007 Eric Gordon, IU
2008 Tyler Zeller, UNC
2009 Jordan Hulls, IU
2010 Deshaun Thomas (most likely to win) OSU

2009: (7/13 in state)
Jordan Hulls, IU
Patrick Bade, Purdue
Kendal Brown, So. Illinois;
D.J. Byrd, Purdue
Derek Elston, IU
Bruce Grimm Jr., East Tenn;
Justin Jordan, SLU
Matt Kenney, Valpo;
Jake Odum, Ind State;
Errick Peck, Cornell
Colt Ryan, Evansville
Stephan Van Treese, Louisville
Scott Wood, NC State.

2008 (7/14 in state)
Tyler Zeller UNC
Garrett Butcher Butler
Randy Davis Ball State
Gordon Hayward Butler
Braydon Hobbs, Bellermine
Kyle Kuric, Louisville
Julian Mavunga, Miami
Julius Mays, NC State
Daniel Moore, IU (walk on)
Zack Novak, Michigan;
Walter Offutt, OSU
Chase Stigall, Butler
Larry Stone, IUPUI (transferring to a juco)
Alex Young, IUPUI.

[tmac03]

Davis will probably got Purdue or IU, he's an Indiana kid.

I just heard a radio interview with the sports reporter for the Bloomington paper yesterday, and he said that IU hasn't shown any interest in Davis. I don't know the reason for that, but Crean doesn't seem to be interested.

[BBC 08]

Officially committed to Xavier.

[MuskieCinci]

Time for a celebratory beer! This was unexpected but I will take it. I feel like this new coaching staff can really recruit and we will continue to get better and better kids. The offseason is starting to take a turn for the better and I predict we will hear good news from at least one more recruit before the summer is over.

[bobbiemcgee]

Muskie...Davis now has a Purdue Offer.
__________________



When it comes to recruiting, it's survival of the fittest.

Sorry.

Sorry to PU you mean

[principal]

Please enlighten the ignorant (me) - did Davis verbal or sign an LOI? Can a player even sign an LOI at this time of year? Is there a nice summary I could read somewhere that outlines the early signing period, when it begins, ends, etc...and the regular signing period, when it begins, ends, etc?

Thanks in advance.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Please enlighten the ignorant (me) - did Davis verbal or sign an LOI? Can a player even sign an LOI at this time of year? Is there a nice summary I could read somewhere that outlines the early signing period, when it begins, ends, etc...and the regular signing period, when it begins, ends, etc?

Thanks in advance.

I believe a player cant sign until their senior year with the first signing period being in November of the senior year. The most he could do right now is verbally commit.

[kmcrawfo]

Interesting article.... Indiana State MVP as a sophomore. Pretty impressive.

http://www.hoosierscout.net/2009/05/darwin-dee-davis-indiana-high-school.html

[surfxu]

Very good news. Heck I'll take anything at this point but it sounds like some traction is beginning to take place. First Latham and now Davis. Granted they are different years it seems like a year since something has gone positive on the recruiting front...even though that is obviously not the case, it just seems like it. Hopefully JD recommits soon and I can REALLY enjoy my vacation with some good old Xavier buddies (including Cheesehead) in the OBX next week.
Thanks for the link kmc...I tried to rep you but like a French whore I've got to spread myself around a bit more. Interesting that there's very little written about X in the article...more of an IU vs Purdue vibe but I guess that's to be expected. "Defensive specialist"...I like it.

[Madfan]

This kid is pretty no nonsense. Heard he made a list of the reasons he wanted to go to Xavier then tried to make a list of why he would like to go to all the other schools he had offers from and some that were about to offer. Obviously Xavier won. Why wait if it's a good fit. If he was using Xavier as the measuring stick and others schools didn't measure up-it shows where this kids heart is!! Go X!

[Madfan]

Trust me IU has been sending Davis info for awhile, including his invitation to IU elite camp. I think Davis may have expressed that IU was NOT at the top of his list early on. IMO.

[kyxu]

The Rivals 150 rankings for 2011 just came out, and our man Darwin checks in as a 4-star recruit, #72 nationally.

Not bad!

[Xman95]

the rivals 150 rankings for 2011 just came out, and our man darwin checks in as a 4-star recruit, #72 nationally.

Not bad!

Niiiiiiiccccceeeeee!!!!!!!

Would he have been Top 50 if he gave a verbal to a Big 6?:D

[xunorm]

Niiiiiiiccccceeeeee!!!!!!!

Would he have been Top 50 if he gave a verbal to a Big 6?:D

Probably would have been, because as you see from the list; all the other PGs X was or still is recruiting are ranked ahead of him.

[SixFig]

http://www.rehabilitation.org.nz/yk-images/867bfa63dabbdde371a7f6636f2adb7b/main/darwin.jpg

One can only hope a sweet beard like this is forthcoming.

Darwin is proof of Xavier's evolution

[bobbiemcgee]

Jun. 23
Darwin Davis, PG

Bloomington, IN


Bloomington South H.S.

Scouts Grade:
ESPN100 Rank: 61
Position Rank: 16
Jr. PG Darwin Davis commits to Xavier
5-foot-10 point guard Darwin "Dee" Davis verbally committed to Xavier on Monday night, according to multiple sources. The Bloomington, Ind. native had interest from Indiana, Butler, Purdue and Cincinnati.

"Davis is a true point guard that can do it all," according to ESPN.com Recruiting Coordinator Reggie Rankin. "He has excellent speed and quickness pushing the ball in transition and can be at the rim in the blink of an eye.

"Dee also has a tight handle and does a great job of distributing once he gets into the lane. His passing and court vision is excellent and for a young point guard. He makes good decisions and handles full court pressure with ease."

Davis can also score it when he needs to.

"He has a smooth pull up jumper when he can't get all the way to the rim," Rankin offered. "But he must continue hone his three point shooting which should improve as he adds strength.

"Davis also is an excellent on ball defender and has great anticipation in the passing lanes."

Rankin loves this catch for the new staff at Xavier.

"What a great get for first year head coach Chris Mack," he said. "Davis will be a great floor general and will excel in the Xavier half court set and while also pushing the ball for easy baskets."

[xu15]

Jun. 23
Darwin Davis, PG

Bloomington, IN


Bloomington South H.S.

Scouts Grade:
ESPN100 Rank: 61
Position Rank: 16
Jr. PG Darwin Davis commits to Xavier
5-foot-10 point guard Darwin "Dee" Davis verbally committed to Xavier on Monday night, according to multiple sources. The Bloomington, Ind. native had interest from Indiana, Butler, Purdue and Cincinnati.

"Davis is a true point guard that can do it all," according to ESPN.com Recruiting Coordinator Reggie Rankin. "He has excellent speed and quickness pushing the ball in transition and can be at the rim in the blink of an eye.

"Dee also has a tight handle and does a great job of distributing once he gets into the lane. His passing and court vision is excellent and for a young point guard. He makes good decisions and handles full court pressure with ease."

Davis can also score it when he needs to.

"He has a smooth pull up jumper when he can't get all the way to the rim," Rankin offered. "But he must continue hone his three point shooting which should improve as he adds strength.

"Davis also is an excellent on ball defender and has great anticipation in the passing lanes."

Rankin loves this catch for the new staff at Xavier.

"What a great get for first year head coach Chris Mack," he said. "Davis will be a great floor general and will excel in the Xavier half court set and while also pushing the ball for easy baskets."


Well that sounds amazing.

[Madfan]

Dee Davis will be playing in the IT TAKES FIVE tournament in Cincy this Monday. Plays with Indiana Elite/Team Indiana. Austin Etherington also on this team, as well as Jeremiah Davis and some big men. Good chance to check out the newest commitment. Scheduled to play in Louisville the following weekend.

[bobbiemcgee]

Pumped about his verbal. This kid is a player with no apparent downside. Loves X. Lots of maturity for a guy who just turned 16!!!

[xunorm]

I think the one link between most recruits that X brings in is that they are winners. They each know what it takes to win, and perform accordingly. Davis coming in as a freshmen in a couple years seems to me like he would be ready for a leadership role because of how he has performed so far in high school. bobbi, I agree that as he develops, he could be scary good. It is very difficult for someone to develop quickness and speed as well as the will and toughness to win.

[therick44]

Dee had a solid day. His team won both of their games.

He didn't exert himself too much in the first game. Just handled the ball, buried threes, and helped teammate Jeremiah Davis explode onto the scene in front of the coaches.

[xsteve1]

Dee had a solid day. His team won both of their games.

He didn't exert himself too much in the first game. Just handled the ball, buried threes, and helped teammate Jeremiah Davis explode onto the scene in front of the coaches.

Xavier needs D. Davis' first assist for X to convince J. Davis to come as well.:D

[therick44]

Xavier needs D. Davis' first assist for X to convince J. Davis to come as well.:D

Actually, an Indiana reporter that was interviewing JD today asked him if he felt any pressure with Dee committed to X and he laughed and said yeah Dee's been on him hard.

[xu15]

Actually, an Indiana reporter that was interviewing JD today asked him if he felt any pressure with Dee committed to X and he laughed and said yeah Dee's been on him hard.

Interesting.

Im just pumped about Dee right now but that would be nice.

[Madfan]

Dee had a solid day. His team won both of their games.

He didn't exert himself too much in the first game. Just handled the ball, buried threes, and helped teammate Jeremiah Davis explode onto the scene in front of the coaches.

That's just the kind of kid Dee Davis is! He's not arrogant or ego driven-he's a confident kid who like to see his teammates shine also!:D

[dto]

Davis was the first 2011 recruit mentioned in Rivals report on the It Takes 5ive Camp:

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=962668

Darwin Davis (Indiana Elite) - With his instincts and quickness, Davis is a disruptive force defensively both off and on the basketball. His body control and ability to make plays off the dribble make him special offensively. If the Xavier commitment can take his outside jumper up a level, it will take his entire game up a level or two.

[bobbiemcgee]

Dee Davis' application for the 2011 LeBron camp has been rejected by Nike.

[bobbiemcgee]

Full Disclosure: The above post was a joke, again, just joking....hahaha...ha

[Madfan]

Don't worry Bobby-I got it!:D

[bobbiemcgee]

Davis was the first 2011 recruit mentioned in Rivals report on the It Takes 5ive Camp:

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=962668

Darwin Davis (Indiana Elite) - With his instincts and quickness, Davis is a disruptive force defensively both off and on the basketball. His body control and ability to make plays off the dribble make him special offensively. If the Xavier commitment can take his outside jumper up a level, it will take his entire game up a level or two.




QUICKHITS FANS FORUM | AREA H.S. SPORTS NEWSNews & notes from Cincinnati
• By Hugh Kellenberger | Monday, July 6, 2009 at 10:02 pm
CINCINNATI — Well, the July AAU evaluation season has begun, with day one of the Adidas It Takes 5ive Classic now completed.

Today was a big Indiana day, since I watched 2010 commit David Williams play twice for the Atlanta Celtics. But I was able to watch some local guys play, so here are a few observations.

■Dee Davis definitely turned some heads with his play for Indiana Elite Team Indiana. The South junior committed to Xavier in June and is definitely off the open market, but he was a topic of conversation among media types. I knew he was fast enough and a good enough distributor to make an impact on this level, but I was really impressed with the way he shot the ball. He made several 3-pointers during one game Monday, including a catch-and-release jumper with a hand in his face. The outside shot has been the one weakness in his game. Maybe that’s no longer the case.

Guess he cured that problem already...............

[therick44]

I thought the same thing while watching him at the Take 5ive... especially that first game against the team from Cinci that they played. I keep hearing that he's not a great shooter, but every time I see him play he usually knocks down a few threes and it's not like he takes a lot of them.

[Madfan]

Just saw he lead the team in scoring in their finals against Team Takeover out of Canada. Lead the team in scoring almost every game. I must say-these guys have to be getting tired! They have been gettting far in each tourney bracket, then going right to another tourney. On their way to Memphis for morning game today. Wow-to be young again!

[therick44]

Just saw he lead the team in scoring in their finals against Team Takeover out of Canada. Lead the team in scoring almost every game. I must say-these guys have to be getting tired! They have been gettting far in each tourney bracket, then going right to another tourney. On their way to Memphis for morning game today. Wow-to be young again!

You know... You kinda wonder if that's going to hurt a guy like Vinny Zollo. Most of his appeal is his work ethic and high motor. If he starts to tire out and is unable to play as hard his stock will more than likely fall you would think.

[UCGRAD4X]

...and where would DD's stock be had his shooting not only NOT beeen an issue but an asset, but also committed to a B6 team...

not that it matters, but, just saying is all...

[therick44]

...and where would DD's stock be had his shooting not only NOT beeen an issue but an asset, but also committed to a B6 team...

not that it matters, but, just saying is all...

What? ... I'm not sure I follow.

[xu15]

What? ... I'm not sure I follow.

I think he is saying that if his shot had not been a concern, he would have committed to a big 6 school.

The comment is stupid, irrelevant, and wrong in my opinion, but I think thats what hes going for. No offense^

[therick44]

I think he is saying that if his shot had not been a concern, he would have committed to a big 6 school.

The comment is stupid, irrelevant, and wrong in my opinion, but I think thats what hes going for. No offense^

Haha OK thanks for helping clear that up. I felt like he was making a follow up comment to my post about Vinny Zollo.

You said it best.... Irrelevant.

[UCGRAD4X]

What? ... I'm not sure I follow.

Just from what I have been reading here, the knock on Davis seemed to be his outside shooting, or lack thereof. Now it seems that his outside shooting is getting kudos.
I also seem to recall that his 'rating' dropped after signing with X. I'm really not into all of that ranking stuff - it's probably a guideline but certainly not the be-all-to-end-all in the long run by ant stretch.

[UCGRAD4X]

I think he is saying that if his shot had not been a concern, he would have committed to a big 6 school.

The comment is stupid, irrelevant, and wrong in my opinion, but I think thats what hes going for. No offense^

Offense taken. That was not the point I was trying to make, although I will certainly give you the irrelevant part.

[LyonsIsFlyin]

The rankings for the 2011 class were not released until after Dee committed, so he has not slipped since committing.

[Madfan]

After leading his team in scoring in almost every game from It Takes Five through Kentucky Hoopfest, I would think that his ranking will rise in the next updated version.

[AviatorX]

After leading his team in scoring in almost every game from It Takes Five through Kentucky Hoopfest, I would think that his ranking will rise in the next updated version.

I'd say this is likely, although there isn't too too much room for him to go up without vaulting into near 5-star territory.

[SixFig]

If he continues to perform exceptionally, how long will it be before certain "big time" coaches try to poach him (Like Calhoun tried with Lyons...allegedly)

Stay strong Dee! You'll soon be playing for the National Champs.

[X Factor]

From Jody Demling's Blog. (http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs/demling/blog.html)


Watched a lot of Bloomington South's Dee Davis, who is headed to Xavier. The guard is sooooo much better when he has the ball in his hands. Several times on the final day, Jeremiah Davis and Nick Moore had the ball. When Davis took it, he not only scored some but just seemed to always make something good happen.

I can't believe we have to wait two years to watch Davis in a Xavier uniform. He could be a great college point guard.

[dto]

I can't believe we have to wait two years to watch Davis in a Xavier uniform. He could be a great college point guard.

He WILL be a great college (and NBA) point guard ;)

[bobbiemcgee]

He WILL be a great college (and NBA) point guard ;)

Kellenberger on twitter (All Muskies agree)

http://twitter.com/HWKellenberger/statuses/2664329753

[LutherRackleyRulez]

Per Jody Demling....Louisville C-J...

from Las Vegas, NV...


It was a good day for Hoosiers also. Bloomington South's high school team is now 7-0 and plays in the semifinals of the 17 & under championship bracket of the Main Event tournament. Matt Carlino hit two free throws late in a one-point win over the Indy Magic late tonight in the quarterfinals. I have heard Xavier commitment Dee Davis and Spencer Turner played outstanding on this day. Not sure what team they play yet in the morning but the game will be at 10 a.m. Vegas time!




Here's link to 7/25 article penned by JD re: Bloomington South squad......



http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20090725/SPORTS11/907250351/It+s+been+viva++Las+Vegas+for+Bloomington+South+ba sketball+team

[Madfan]

Watched Dee Davis in Vegas. Missed South's last game-but UNOFFICIALLY Davis avg. 14.1 pts per game, 4.6 asst, 3.1 reb, 2.7 steals. Shot 75% from the free throw line. Not bad for a 16 yr. old in an 18 & U tourney.

His teammate Spencer Turner can flat out shoot the ball. When he's hot he's good for @ 6 per game. Noticed teams didn't really defend him until he hit a few, and then he had a harder time. One game I watched he was guarded pretty tight and struggled with his shot. If a team can hide him in the corner he can shoot the lights out in the gym.

[X-man]

Watched Dee Davis in Vegas. Missed South's last game-but UNOFFICIALLY Davis avg. 14.1 pts per game, 4.6 asst, 3.1 reb, 2.7 steals. Shot 75% from the free throw line. Not bad for a 16 yr. old in an 18 & U tourney.

His teammate Spencer Turner can flat out shoot the ball. When he's hot he's good for @ 6 per game. Noticed teams didn't really defend him until he hit a few, and then he had a harder time. One game I watched he was guarded pretty tight and struggled with his shot. If a team can hide him in the corner he can shoot the lights out in the gym.

Thanks for the update. Davis is going to be a very special player for the Muskies. While Xavier's NBA resume' is largely limited to front court players, we have had our share of fabulous guards including the one doing the play-by-play on WLW; Davis appears to be another one.

[bobbiemcgee]

South's team made it to the final four in 17U and lost to Team Nike from Florida. They were the only team playing their whole HS team as far as I know so very, very impressive... several of the kids, including Dee Davis, were playing "up" from the 16U class. They were 7-1 in this tournament, which had to be exhausting.

[bobbiemcgee]

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200990918026

[Xman95]

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200990918026

First, isn't Carlino also a PG? If so, I wonder how that will work with Dee Davis. (EDIT: I just looked up a little info and it seems he's a combo guard, so it shouldn't be an issue. Good thing for IU...it would be tough to see their 2011 recruit have to ride the pine behind Xavier's for two years!)

Second, I can't believe I have to wait two years until I see Davis playing for X. I'm very excited about this commit.

[bobbiemcgee]

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=53942&season=2011&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb %2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d539 42%26season%3d2011

guess Sean whiffed on him.

[goxavier84]

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=53942&season=2011&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb %2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d539 42%26season%3d2011

guess Sean whiffed on him.

The kid committed to IU in August 2008, well before Coach Miller made his way west so I wouldn't say Miller "whiffed" on him. At this point the Arizona Wildcats really should be an afterthought. The Xavier brand is as prominent to recruits as it has ever been. We continue to fill our recruit pipeline with high level talent. Dee Davis will come to X in 11' not to save our program, but to be a part of something big. And you know what? I'm pumped about that.

[Madfan]

Per jody Demling's blog- Dee Davis' South team is ranked #5 in the Sporting News College Basketball magazine. Not too shabby.

[Madfan]

Just found new youtube video on Davis.

No link available yet-or I just can't find it! On youtube: Search Juice 2124 listed under baby D.

Pretty good stuff.:D

[xunorm]

looks like a couple wicked moves with the spin and the crossover. Game looks very slow to him and he has great vision.

[Muskie]

Per jody Demling's blog- Dee Davis' South team is ranked #5 in the Sporting News College Basketball magazine. Not too shabby.

Bloomington South has a couple of IU commits who moved to Indiana a year early. They are both playing for South. It's almost an All-Star Team of HS prospects.

[More Cowbell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4aa88M7Sis

[Titanxman04]

not much else to say than,

Sweeeeeeeeeet:D

[Madfan]

Dee Davis' Bloomington South team(ranked #1 in Indiana) beat New Albany #2 69-61 Saturday night. Davis had 22 pts. 7 asst. Talked to a buddy who was at the game and was told that Dee made a few moves that made the crowd go wild and made the defenders fall! LOVE IT!!:D:D:D

[bob729]

Wish we could ship him in tonight. Our points are athletic, but weak on BB IQ.

[kyxu]

Wish we could ship him in tonight. Our points are athletic, but weak on BB IQ.

Seriously???

[Titanxman04]

Wish we could ship him in tonight. Our points are athletic, but weak on BB IQ.

I think they are weak on execution at times, and more so just raw still. Don't write these players off so quickly. This is upsetting to see folks. Thats how Dayton acts. Let's have some faith.

[xu15]

I agree. Relax. I would argue that Holloway does have a good basketball IQ for the most part. And I just think Lyons gets ahead of himself, which will be remedied with time. Our points will be just fine

[Madfan]

Highlight video available linked to Dee's rivals page.

[xu15]

Highlight video available linked to Dee's rivals page.

Anyone want to post the general idea of what's on the video? I'm not a rivals subscriber.

I'm pumped for this kid.

[Madfan]

Couple of threes, couple of drives to the bucket, and an impressive move where he takes two defenders to his right then spins back to his left and loses them both for an easy bucket!

[Madfan]

sorry-screen froze!

[More Cowbell]

Looks like he is having a decent year

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20091217/SPORTS06/912170358/Jeff+gets+a+shot+at+upending+No.+1+Bloomington+Sou th

[A10fan]

Looks like he is having a decent year

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20091217/SPORTS06/912170358/Jeff+gets+a+shot+at+upending+No.+1+Bloomington+Sou th

Decent? I hope you're being sarcastic. Kid is averaging 18.5 ppg and I will bet many asssists for the No.1 ranked team in Indiana.

[The_Mack_Pack]

18.5 ppg on the number 1 team in Indiana... as a junior! I can't wait to see him in a Muskie uniform.

[GoMuskies]

Here is the story on the game that the other article was previewing. Davis was okay that night. I mean, if you like 26 points, 6 assists, 6 steals and 0 turnovers against the #12 team in the state on the road.

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20091219/SPORTS06/912190366/1034/No.+1+Bloomington+South+KO+s+Jeffersonville+boys+8 6-55

[More Cowbell]

I would say that it was a decent game

[Xpectations]

Here's a blog about Bloomington basketball (http://bloomingtonsouthbasketball.blogspot.com/). You'll see plenty of mentions of Dee in all the November and December articles. I'd love to go see him play. Sounds like everyone is blown away by what he can do.

[JAX 3758]

Wish we could ship him in tonight. Our points are athletic, but weak on BB IQ.

This might be one of the dumbest comments I have ever seen posted on xavier hoops

[golfitup]

Dee Davis' Bloomington South team(ranked #1 in Indiana) beat New Albany #2 69-61 Saturday night. Davis had 22 pts. 7 asst. Talked to a buddy who was at the game and was told that Dee made a few moves that made the crowd go wild and made the defenders fall! LOVE IT!!:D:D:D

You better bring your "A" game to New Albany. We don't mess around...

[bobbiemcgee]

Can't wait for the Dee and Dez show. Awesome!!

[MADXSTER]

AP State Boys Basketball Poll

Class 4A
W-L Pts Prv
1. Bloomington South (15) 15-0 300 1
2. Indpls N. Central 14-2 258 2
3. Valparaiso 14-1 240 3
4. New Albany 12-2 174 6
5. E. Chicago 11-1 167 5
6. Carmel 11-3 144 7
7. Munster 13-2 130 4
8. Center Grove 12-2 111 8
9. Noblesville 11-2 88 9
10. Homestead 13-1 79 10


IBCA Top 20 State Poll

1 Bloomington South 400 15-0 20
2 North Central (Indianapolis) 363 14-2
3 Valparaiso 350 14-1
4 East Chicago Central 298 11-1
5 Danville 240 14-0
6 Bowman Academy 220 15-0
7 Center Grove 218 12-2
8 Carmel 204 11-3
9 Mt. Vernon (Fortville) 195 14-2
10 Munster 194 13-2
11 Washington 173 14-1
11 Merrillville 173 12-2
13 New Albany 164 12-2
14 Homestead 140 13-1
15 Noblesville 134 11-2
16 Greensburg 106 15-0
17 Hamilton Southeastern 89 13-2
18 Bluffton 80 14-0
19 Brownstown Central 73 13-0
20 Peru 65 13-1

[bobbiemcgee]

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=20101300379

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

Wish we could ship him in tonight. Our points are athletic, but weak on BB IQ.

You can't be for real with that comment.... UD or UC fan?

[MADXSTER]

Maybe it's GUY!

[Michigan Muskie]

Tuesday, January 26, 2010
Davis likes the gym, full or empty

By Rex Kirts

Dee Davis spends a lot of time in gyms, and he likes it there if it's full of rowdy fans or nearly empty so he can concentrate on practice.
All that time doesn't, of course, explain all those extraordinary shake-and-bake moves on his way to the basket. Those are to be enjoyed, but they're simply not explainable, by him or anyone else. They're just reactions.
The Panther junior point guard concentrates on academics and
basketball, and he's doing well in both. The last report card showed four As and a B, and his basketball stat sheet is just as impressive.
Can you believe that in the last nine games the 5-11, 165-pounder had committed only two turnovers while making 39 assists? That's what is meant by impressive.
SO IS SHOOTING 55 per cent from the field and 74 per cent at the free throw line and leading the team in scoring with a 16.8 average. He's a pest on defense, also, with a team-leading 32 steals.
"Dee is quick, deceptive and has a scoring mentality," coach J.R. Holmes said. "He's very, very good with the ball as far as his assist to turnover ratio.
South has been blessed in recent years with playeres who spend a lot of time on basketball. Jordy Hulls and Spencer Turner came along to set the tone, and guys like Davis, Erik Fromm and Matt Carlino from this year's starting unit continue the trend.
Davis sometimes slips into the gym late at night with his father, Darwin Sr., to shoot around. He shoots on weekends, too, with his dad and North's Julian Boatner at the IU's HPER facility.
Occasionally when he shoots at South in the evenings, "The custodians lock the door and tell me to shut it when I leave."
Sundays is a double workout day. "After shooting I go with my dad to where he coaches baseball, out by the Starlight drive-in, and work on my legs," Davis said.
MAYBE THAT LEG workout is a big factor in his ability to take the ball to the basket with such a quick burst.
Nobody Holmes has ever coached can penetrate like Davis. "He's little," Holmes grinned. "They (the defense) lose him. And he can get his shot off with his right hand, his left hand, with spins and hooks." The end result is often pure pizzazz.
One of the things Davis likes about basketball is playing in front of big crowds, which South has done a lot of the last two seasons.
"I like playing in front of the fans," he said. "I like clutch time. It's entertainment for the fans who pay money."
Big games are extra special. "You always like to see how you can do against the best players," he said. "Like Marquis Teague. He's supposed to be the No. 1 guard in the country. I know Matt (Carlino) is fired up about playing the game, too."
Pike comes to South Friday night in a matchup of the only teams left without a loss in Conference Indiana. Davis started out on Teague last year, and Teague was a handful. The Panthers switched to a zone defense to slow him and the rest of the team down and come out with a win.
THAT WIN WAS one of 21 straight the Panthers currently own in the conference. They are 14-0 this year and have won 40 straight over two seasons, which ties them with the 1984-86 Marion team for the third longest in Indiana history.
"Pike will try to speed it up more than we want to," Davis said. "I think we'll have more structure and get good shots. If they get out it will be tough for us to keep up."
Davis has already committed to Xavier to play his college ball." They're going to let me have the ball in my hands," he said. "Their program is based on guard play, and they play an up-tempo game.
"They have a nice campus, real small. You can't get lost getting to class, so I like that, too."
Before his senior season Davis, who said too much basketball can get a little stale, plans to take a little time off from his hectic hoops pace.
"I'm not going to play AAU ball this summer," he said. He will still work out, but he "wants to enjoy being a kid a little bit."

[MADXSTER]

SOLD!!! What's not to like.

[AviatorX]

Interesting that he'll be sitting out the AAU circuit going into his senior year.

[xavierj]

Interesting that he'll be sitting out the AAU circuit going into his senior year.

Good.

[AviatorX]

Good.

It could go either way, at least in the manner that I see it.

On one hand, him sitting out the circuit means less chance of another coach snaking in and trying to steal a committment, it seems Davis is extremely talented, so this could definitely have been a problem I'd think.

Looking at it the other way, say what you want about AAU ball (no fundamentals, coaching, etc.), while that may be true, I think there is definitely something to be said for playing with and against other top talent. Not to say that Dee wouldn't be playing basketball, just found it interesting.

[BandAid]

Dee playing on ESPNU right now if anyone is interested

EDIT: lies. sorry guys.

[rhyno2110]

I'm sure the guys that visit MM have already seen this video, but I will post it for those who haven't.

Here is a video of Canty and Wells: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p11FziYoqqU&feature=player_embedded#

They make some nasty dunks in this video.

Canty comes just after the 2 minute mark and Wells follows Canty.

[Madfan]

I have heard that Dee will be going to several skills camps this summer and may play a couple of AAU tournaments but is not playing the full summer schedule of AAU tourneys. One thing X wants Davis to do is gain weight and he lost several pounds last summer with all of the traveling and playing. Dee is a competitor-played last week with the flu-and not playing AAU won't hurt him a bit. IMO:)

[Xman95]

I'm sure the guys that visit MM have already seen this video, but I will post it for those who haven't.

Here is a video of Canty and Wells: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p11FziYoqqU&feature=player_embedded#

They make some nasty dunks in this video.

Canty comes just after the 2 minute mark and Wells follows Canty.

Did anyone catch the inbound play during the CJ Leslie highlights? Leslie inbounds the ball, the other guy makes a great catch and return alley-oop pass to Leslie. Pass was right on the money and Leslie threw it down. Great, great play. By the way, the "other guy" was Dezmine Wells!

[PM Thor]

Did anyone catch the inbound play during the CJ Leslie highlights? Leslie inbounds the ball, the other guy makes a great catch and return alley-oop pass to Leslie. Pass was right on the money and Leslie threw it down. Great, great play. By the way, the "other guy" was Dezmine Wells!

That was nice.

I HATE dayton.

[More Cowbell]

http://blogs.indystar.com/recruitingcentral/2010/02/weekend-rewind-5.html

[Madfan]

Heard an interview with Dee Davis. His high school team is currently ranked anywhere from #3 to #9 in the nation(depending on what site you visit). Davis currently has 22 turnovers in 21 games this season. He is averaging somewhere around 6 assists a game. South is also about to knock off Conley and Odum's record of longest winning streak. South plays at noon on Saturday in Seymour for regionals.:D

[JimCoker]

I will take that kind of productivity. Thanks Madfan.

[SixFig]

Hopeful the big conference poachers (I'm looking at you Calapari and Calhoun) stay away.

[Xman95]

Hopeful the big conference poachers (I'm looking at you Calapari and Calhoun) stay away.

Actually, I'm not too worried about that. I think Mack and Co. have an ability to connect with today's high school players. Kids like Davis know what Xavier is all about and they commit to X for a reason. It's not because of boosters or lies. They commit because they understand what X offers: great program, great university, great coaches, great university family. Those things don't change. Those things are Xavier University.

[The_Mack_Pack]

When do Davis and Wells sign their letters?

[sash19]

When do Davis and Wells sign their letters?

Earliest they can is November of 2010 I believe....

[SixFig]

Wells and Davis sign sometime in November.

Some perspective:

Xavier began it's recent run of dominance (8 NCAA tourneys in 9 years) in 2001. Wells and Davis are presumably 17ish...meaning they were 8 years old when Xavier became a national powerhouse. They don't know anything other than that Xavier is a consistent NCAA team, wins on that level, and puts players in the NBA. As more and more kids grow up seeing Xavier as a top 20 national program, they will more easily see themselves there too.

We will see top 25 type recruits SOON. We will make the Final Four SOON. We will see a National Championship...well...we'll see.

[Juice]

Actually, I'm not too worried about that. I think Mack and Co. have an ability to connect with today's high school players. Kids like Davis know what Xavier is all about and they commit to X for a reason. It's not because of boosters or lies. They commit because they understand what X offers: great program, great university, great coaches, great university family. Those things don't change. Those things are Xavier University.

Has X recently had any recruits poached from them? And I do not count Weatherspoon and Parrom because of the coaching change. I am talking about recruits who verbal but then go somewhere else.

If there have been some recently, I don't see it happening anytime soon.

[SixFig]

Has X recently had any recruits poached from them? And I do not count Weatherspoon and Parrom because of the coaching change. I am talking about recruits who verbal but then go somewhere else.

If there have been some recently, I don't see it happening anytime soon.

Former 4 star recruit Nate Miles was once a Xavier commit and the left to join, guess who, UConn. Which is good cause he ended up allegedly sexually abusing a girl and was expelled.

[bobbiemcgee]

South may end up playing DSR and North Central on 3-20.

[A10fan]

Former 4 star recruit Nate Miles was once a Xavier commit and the left to join, guess who, UConn. Which is good cause he ended up allegedly sexually abusing a girl and was expelled.

Miles didn't leave! His offer was taken off the table.

[PMI]

Has X recently had any recruits poached from them? And I do not count Weatherspoon and Parrom because of the coaching change. I am talking about recruits who verbal but then go somewhere else.

If there have been some recently, I don't see it happening anytime soon.

I remember it almost happened with Churchill Odia when Pitino slid in.

[Madfan]

Don't see Davis leaving for anywhere else. His commitment seems very solid. Have heard that he's trying to bring DSR aboard. MAck and Co. have done a great job recruiting a team to play with Davis so I like our chances of seeing that letter signed in November!:D

[xnatic03]

It's kinda scary to think that Holloway, Lyons, and Davis will at one point all be on this team AT THE SAME TIME!

[OSUMuskie]

Don't see Davis leaving for anywhere else. His commitment seems very solid. Have heard that he's trying to bring DSR aboard. MAck and Co. have done a great job recruiting a team to play with Davis so I like our chances of seeing that letter signed in November!:D

Wasn't Dee trying to bring along Jeremiah Davis too or are JD's sights officially set elsewhere?

[Xman95]

Wasn't Dee trying to bring along Jeremiah Davis too or are JD's sights officially set elsewhere?

I thought we had backed off Jeremiah Davis. Could be wrong though.

[xu95]

Jeremiah I believe has committed to Michigan St. He would not have come here anyhow, he wants to be a PG in college.

xu95

[Xman95]

Jeremiah I believe has committed to Michigan St. He would not have come here anyhow, he wants to be a PG in college.

Don't think he has committed there yet, but they seem to be on the short list. Somebody put a post/story on the MSU board today that Davis is keeping an eye on MSU. Hey, if Izzo could lure Adreian Payne away from that UD powerhouse, I'm sure he'll be able to land Davis!

[smileyy]

Has X recently had any recruits poached from them? And I do not count Weatherspoon and Parrom because of the coaching change. I am talking about recruits who verbal but then go somewhere else.

If there have been some recently, I don't see it happening anytime soon.

Does this really happen at all in college recruiting? I hear of de-commits, but most of those are around coaching changes (Holloway from IU to X, Xavier Henry from Memphis to KU)

The most recent de-commit I can think of was DeMarcus Cousins from UAB to Kentucky, because UAB wouldn't guarantee him a release if they changed coaches. They decided to keep Mike Davis anyway, and lost Cousins in the process. How dumb was that?

Honestly, the fear of it happening sounds more like a cult of victimhood.

[Madfan]

Jeremiah Davis does want to play pg in college. I was told by a reliable source that Xavier was no longer after him. I think the Dez Wells commit knocked him out of the running.

[PMI]

Does this really happen at all in college recruiting? I hear of de-commits, but most of those are around coaching changes (Holloway from IU to X, Xavier Henry from Memphis to KU)

The most recent de-commit I can think of was DeMarcus Cousins from UAB to Kentucky, because UAB wouldn't guarantee him a release if they changed coaches. They decided to keep Mike Davis anyway, and lost Cousins in the process. How dumb was that?

Honestly, the fear of it happening sounds more like a cult of victimhood.

Yes, it most certainly does. There are indirect, weasely ways to do it but it definitely happens.

[Xman95]

Yes, it most certainly does. There are indirect, weasely ways to do it but it definitely happens.

I can't point out the specific examples, but I know Jim Calhoun and the UConn program are often brought up regarding this topic.

[SixFig]

Mr. Calhoun allegedly tried to poach Lyons.

[smileyy]

Do you have recent examples where this has happened, at least successfully? I'm not doubting you -- I just don't follow recruiting closely enough to have heard of a lot of it.

[bobbiemcgee]

"- South's Dee Davis had just pulled off another fantastic dribble move, shifting his weight to his left and then to his right. His defender left wobbling like a Russian doll, Davis drove down the baseline for an easy layup against Columbus North last Saturday."

[Madfan]

Bloomington South was upset Saturday night by Jeffersonville 58-56. Davis went down twice in the fourth qtr. with severe leg cramps and played the remainder of the game but was obviously hobbled(wouldn't put his heel down). Finished the game with 10 pts. 3 asst. and 5 rebs. Finished his season averaging 15.6 ppg, 5.3 asst per game, 2 steals pg and 1.2 turnovers pg. Currently has 976 career points, but would probably trade all of them for one more ring!

With that said...he still has one more year of high school!;)

[Xpectations]

Lots of great quotes from his head coach and teammates.

You gotta love that we have this kid (http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/2010/03/19/prepsports.018033.sto)coming to X!

[waggy]

Impressive kid. And love the striped warm-ups.

[bobbiemcgee]

http://blogs.heraldtimesonline.com/quickhits/?p=5210

[More Cowbell]

Glad to see Davis is solidly committed.




QUESTION: Any news on IU's chances with Perea and Jurkin? Also, why no IU love for Dee Davis? Any chance Crean comes to his senses and makes a play for him? I dont care how small that kid is, he is a player.

Ash, Columbus

CHRIS KORMAN: Ash,

We'll know more on what Hanner Perea and Peter Jurkin are thinking about their college choices when we get into AAU schedule a bit more. They'll probably be around Bloomington a fair bit once they are out of school and that will give us a good chance to do some reporting.

Dee Davis is a player. No question. Kid just knows how to win. It just seems like he and Tom Crean were never able to even begin forming a relationship. There's just nothing there. Crean seems happy with his other options, and Davis is happy with Xavier.

Thanks and take care.

DUSTIN DOPIRAK: It's obviously very early in the game for Perea and Jurkin and I've never spoken to either one of them, but they've been around the program a lot, making several unofficial visits. You'd have to think that bodes well.

Dee Davis obviously is a player but he's also committed to Xavier. I've heard Crean's opinion of Davis may have improved, but I don't get the impression that Davis is listening to overtures.



http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/2010/04/22/iusports.954773.sto

[dc_x]

I love the arrogance of IU fans. They've won 16 games in the past 2 years and still think that they can get any recruit in the state of Indiana to play there.

[sash19]

The state of Indiana as a whole has some arrogant fans. The Purdue and IU fan bases think any kid in the state is theirs until proven wrong. They think DSR, Gary Harris and others are theirs to lose yet a valued source says something totally different. If you enjoy reading it, try out the thread about the 2012 Indiana state rankings on Rivals. I have had some fun proving some of them wrong to the point that one guy stopped replying....

[bobbiemcgee]

Guessing this noise comes from Matt Carlino backing out of the IU committment to go to UCLA this year. He is graduating early. So now they think they can snap their fingers and get our guy.

[Juice]

Guessing this noise comes from Matt Carlino backing out of the IU committment to go to UCLA this year. He is graduating early. So now they think they can snap their fingers and get our guy.

This was really odd considering he moved from out west to Bloomington.

[Masterofreality]

Crean should have stayed at Marquette. He didn't realize how good he had it.

He's still living off one magical year with Dwayne Wade and ridiculous 3 point shooting from Novak. other than that, the record is good, but not necessarily Hall of Fame material.

I would also argue that Crean has a little too much arrogance himself. Remember that Crawdaddy didn't leave right away but tried to stick around for a bit. Crean basically let it be known that he was going to start with a clean slate. I for one am happy that he did and we had a chance to see Craw's talents in Xavier blue.

Crean's first two recruiting classes have been somewhat non-descript. Time will tell, and Crean has 5 more years on his current deal, but if he doesn't start to win in the next couple of years, rumblings will begin in Bloomington.

[X-man]

I would also argue that Crean has a little too much arrogance himself. Remember that Crawdaddy didn't leave right away but tried to stick around for a bit. Crean basically let it be known that he was going to start with a clean slate. I for one am happy that he did and we had a chance to see Craw's talents in Xavier blue.



I am pretty sure that Crean was the reason Crawford had to sit a year before playing for the Muskies. If he had not opposed it, JC (and XU) could have won the battle to get him immediately eligible because of the coaching change and the reasons for that change.

[MADXSTER]

I am pretty sure that Crean was the reason Crawford had to sit a year before playing for the Muskies. If he had not opposed it, JC (and XU) could have won the battle to get him immediately eligible because of the coaching change and the reasons for that change.

This is the first I've heard of this. Interesting.

[sash19]

I am pretty sure that Crean was the reason Crawford had to sit a year before playing for the Muskies. If he had not opposed it, JC (and XU) could have won the battle to get him immediately eligible because of the coaching change and the reasons for that change.

Not sure how Crean could have caused JC to sit. X appealed the basic transfer rule to the NCAA based upon the situation at IU from Sampson. The NCAA looked at it as a situation where the player(s) leaving were doing it for a reason other than to follow a coach. They were leaving due to the harsh penalties being discussed for IU based upon a coach who resigned's actions. Crean would have had nothing to do with JC being eligible/inelgible to play last season at X. The rule is the rule and there are appeals based upon this rule in a situation by situation basis. Crean and IU had little to no say in this from what I understand.

[MADXSTER]

If Crean would have supported JC's case, JC may have been given some leeway. It was not so cut and dry and is for another thread. This is the Dee Davis thread so...

[sash19]

Agreed Mad about it being Dee's thread but from what I have been told, the NCAA was not really asking for IU opinions per se.

[xudash]

Wells and Davis sign sometime in November.

Some perspective:

Xavier began it's recent run of dominance (8 NCAA tourneys in 9 years) in 2001. Wells and Davis are presumably 17ish...meaning they were 8 years old when Xavier became a national powerhouse. They don't know anything other than that Xavier is a consistent NCAA team, wins on that level, and puts players in the NBA. As more and more kids grow up seeing Xavier as a top 20 national program, they will more easily see themselves there too.

We will see top 25 type recruits SOON. We will make the Final Four SOON. We will see a National Championship...well...we'll see.

Probably some of the best perspective I've ever read on this board

[X-man]

Agreed Mad about it being Dee's thread but from what I have been told, the NCAA was not really asking for IU opinions per se.

You were told wrong, sash. I understand that had Crean not objected, the NCAA would very likely have ruled in JC's favor.

[kyxu]

You were told wrong, sash. I understand that had Crean not objected, the NCAA would very likely have ruled in JC's favor.

Ehhhh, I don't know about this. I have no inside information, but that scenario doesn't really make a lot of sense. What does the NCAA care what Crean wants regarding Jordan Crawford?

[smileyy]

Because the NCAA allows programs and coaches to have all of the power over players.

[kyxu]

Because the NCAA allows programs and coaches to have all of the power over players.

Though it may often feel that way, I seriously doubt that's the reason.

Again, I'm not dismissing any info anyone has, but Crean having any impact on whether Crawford was granted a waiver of the ineligibility requirement at Xavier doesn't make a ton of sense.

If otherwise, I have no problem being wrong, it just doesn't make sense.

[X-man]

Though it may often feel that way, I seriously doubt that's the reason.

Again, I'm not dismissing any info anyone has, but Crean having any impact on whether Crawford was granted a waiver of the ineligibility requirement at Xavier doesn't make a ton of sense.

If otherwise, I have no problem being wrong, it just doesn't make sense.

Trust me on this one, kyxu; my source is about as good as it gets.

[whitesox]

Crean's first two recruiting classes have been somewhat non-descript. Time will tell, and Crean has 5 more years on his current deal, but if he doesn't start to win in the next couple of years, rumblings will begin in Bloomington.

Crean has had one very good class (this year's freshmen) and one non-descript class (the incoming freshmen next year).

The next two recruiting classes will be huge for Crean. They are in on some good 2011 players, and the 2012 class in Indiana is absolutely loaded. Indiana fans certainly do not assume they can get any player they want, but they think they have a chance at a lot of the players and might be able to get 2-3 of them.

There isn't any talk from Indiana fans who actually follow recruiting about Davis de-committing from Xavier. I'm sure that question about Dee came from someone who follows Indiana high school basketball but doesn't follow recruiting that well. I am not too worried about him. I am mostly excited about grabbing a couple of the younger players from Indiana like Jeremiah Davis, DSR, Gary Harris, Ron Patterson...

[sash19]

Dee wont decommit....I wont promise it as I am not stupid but lets just say he and Dez are SOLID....

[sash19]

You were told wrong, sash. I understand that had Crean not objected, the NCAA would very likely have ruled in JC's favor.

XMan:

Lets just say I have talked to a very well versed source. Not worth arguing over.

[LutherRackleyRulez]

Per Goodman/FoxSports....


CP3 ELITE GUARD CAMP HIGH SCHOOL ROSTER

Here’s the roster for the third annual Chris Paul Elite Guard Camp – which began today:

Joshua Newkirk, Southeast Raleigh (N.C.)
Naadir Tharpe, Brewster Academy (N.H.)
Freddie Jackson, New Hanover (N.C.)
Michael Carter-Williams, St. Andrew’s (R.I.)
Chris Wilson, Terry Sanford (N.C.)
Dezmine Wells, Word of God (N.C.)
Shane Larkin, Dr. Phillips (Fla.)
Reggie Perkins, Western Guilford (N.C.)
Madison Jones, Ravenscroft (N.C.)
Jamal Branch, Grace Prep (Texas)
Chasson Randle, Rock Island (Ill.)
Rodney Purvis, Upper Room Christian (N.C.)
Jeremiah Davis, Muncie Central (Ind.)
Anthony Stitt, Butler High (N.C.)
Marquis Rankin, Vance High (N.C.)
Dee Davis, Bloomington South (Ind.)********
Bishop Daniels, Word of God (N.C.)
Trey Ervin, Mount Tabor (N.C.)
P.J. Hairston, Hargrave (Va.)
Keith Belfield, Davidson Day (N.C.)
Quinn Cook, DeMatha (Md.)
Shawn Lester, Mooresville (N.C.)
Trevor Cooney, Sanford (Del.)
Bradley Beal, Chaminade Prep (Mo.)
Corey Hilliard, Raytown South (Mo.)
Kevin Ware, Rockdale (Ga.)
Jabari Brown, Oakland (Calif.)

[X Factor]

Per Goodman/FoxSports....


CP3 ELITE GUARD CAMP HIGH SCHOOL ROSTER

Here’s the roster for the third annual Chris Paul Elite Guard Camp – which began today:

Joshua Newkirk, Southeast Raleigh (N.C.)
Naadir Tharpe, Brewster Academy (N.H.)
Freddie Jackson, New Hanover (N.C.)
Michael Carter-Williams, St. Andrew’s (R.I.)
Chris Wilson, Terry Sanford (N.C.)
Dezmine Wells, Word of God (N.C.)
Shane Larkin, Dr. Phillips (Fla.)
Reggie Perkins, Western Guilford (N.C.)
Madison Jones, Ravenscroft (N.C.)
Jamal Branch, Grace Prep (Texas)
Chasson Randle, Rock Island (Ill.)
Rodney Purvis, Upper Room Christian (N.C.)
Jeremiah Davis, Muncie Central (Ind.)
Anthony Stitt, Butler High (N.C.)
Marquis Rankin, Vance High (N.C.)
Dee Davis, Bloomington South (Ind.)********
Bishop Daniels, Word of God (N.C.)
Trey Ervin, Mount Tabor (N.C.)
P.J. Hairston, Hargrave (Va.)
Keith Belfield, Davidson Day (N.C.)
Quinn Cook, DeMatha (Md.)
Shawn Lester, Mooresville (N.C.)
Trevor Cooney, Sanford (Del.)
Bradley Beal, Chaminade Prep (Mo.)
Corey Hilliard, Raytown South (Mo.)
Kevin Ware, Rockdale (Ga.)
Jabari Brown, Oakland (Calif.)





Dezmine Wells is also on this list.

[XU-PA]

Nice little read from Indy

http://blogs.indystar.com/recruitingcentral/2010/06/blog-guest-star-7.html

[A10fan]

The blog is from DEVIN Davis not Dee Davis. Devin is a 2013 recruit.

[bobbiemcgee]

Two D. Davises' would be nice, maybe some locker room confusion tho..ha

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/espnu100?&season=2013&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb %2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fespnu100%3f%26season%3d2 013

[XU-PA]

The blog is from DEVIN Davis not Dee Davis. Devin is a 2013 recruit.

Doh!!!! my bad, anyway, he says he has an offer.

[rhyno2110]

YES! Devin wrote two paragraphs about Xavier, and only one paragraph about Indiana. How does it feel Indiana?

[Roach]

Is this Devin Davis Jr. by any chance the son of the Devin Davis that played for Miami (OH) about 15 years ago? If so and if he's half the ballplayer that his father was, it will bode well for whatever school he chooses.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Is this Devin Davis Jr. by any chance the son of the Devin Davis that played for Miami (OH) about 15 years ago? If so and if he's half the ballplayer that his father was, it will bode well for whatever school he chooses.

No relation.

[Madfan]

Did hear that Dee Davis was in for an open gym and did well. Played with Frease and won a few games.:)

[Madfan]

Nice article on Dee at http://bit.ly/bMs8o7.

[Masterofreality]

Nice article on Dee at http://bit.ly/bMs8o7.

"One of the funnest players to watch...."

Good lord, what has become of grammar in this country.

Q is turning somersaults with frustration.

[MADXSTER]

Good find.

[INBRecruits]

Follow INBRecruits on Twitter for the latest on Xavier recruiting in the state of Indiana. 5'11" PG Darwin Davis has already committed to the Musketeers and other prospects like 6'4" PGs Gary Harris of Hamilton Southeastern HS (2012) and D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera of North Central HS (2012) have offers.

[More Cowbell]

Bloomington South coach J.R. Holmes is already lobbying for his senior guard, Xavier recruit Dee Davis, as the state's top player. "If his last name was Zeller, he might be (Indianapolis Star Indiana) Mr. Basketball," Holmes said. Davis, a key player in South's Class 4A championship game win over Fort Wayne Snider as a sophomore, averaged 15.6 points a game last season.

http://www.indystar.com/article/20100917/SPORTS0615/9170323/Zeller-works-on-paring-down-his-list-from-3?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CSports

[More Cowbell]

5.|Dee Davis|Point guard||5-10|Bloomington South|Davis committed to Xavier the summer before his junior season and probably didn’t gain the acclaim of some others in his class because of his early commitment. He averaged a team-high 15.6 points a game as a junior. He isn’t big, but makes up for it with his quickness and heady play.

http://blogs.indystar.com/recruitingcentral/2010/10/19/teague-dawson-zeller-top-new-2011-rankings/

[Madfan]

Think Dee Davis will surprise some people this year. His high school team is going to be underrated. Was told Dee has been lifting a lot and is already benching 185 and can lift 205. For a 17 year old that only weighs 165-to me that is impressive.

[xnatic03]

I agree Madfan. If he's already relatively strong before he comes here, wait until Xavier's strength coach gets a hold of him. I also like how he chose Xavier (rated around 60 at that time), decided to not play AAU ball, then his ranking dropped like a lead balloon. The recruiting class of Davis, Wells, and Reynolds (along with Taylor being eligible) will be outstanding. From the sounds of things, 2012 could be as good or better.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

EDIT: I placed it in the wrong threads. Sorry Mods

A sick mixtape of great past/present/future players

Dezmine is at 2:57.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmQz1tn5Wy0

[Madfan]

Dee's first game stats: 5/8 from the 3 point line, 4 assists, 1 turnover, 3 rebounds, 19 points total against #6 team in the state.:logo:

[xnatic03]

Looking forward to Dee in a Xavier uniform. Guard depth will not be an issue next year, with him & Wells coming, Redford & Martin rejoining the fray, and having Lyons, Canty (although a SF), and Holloway returning as well. The problem is going to be getting minutes for anyone (which would be a nice problem to have this year).

[Xman95]

Looking forward to Dee in a Xavier uniform. Guard depth will not be an issue next year, with him & Wells coming, Redford & Martin rejoining the fray, and having Lyons, Canty (although a SF), and Holloway returning as well. The problem is going to be getting minutes for anyone (which would be a nice problem to have this year).

I think you'll see Canty, Martin and Wells all in the SF mix (basically a 3-guard offense).

[Masterofreality]

Looking forward to Dee in a Xavier uniform. Guard depth will not be an issue next year, with him & Wells coming, Redford & Martin rejoining the fray, and having Lyons, Canty (although a SF), and Holloway returning as well. The problem is going to be getting minutes for anyone (which would be a nice problem to have this year).


I think you'll see Canty, Martin and Wells all in the SF mix (basically a 3-guard offense).

Giggity, giggity and uh........GIGGITY!!!!

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

"Bloomington South got 22 points from Darwin Davis, 13 from Desmond Marks, 12 from Spencer Turner and 10 from Ben Stowell.

Davis, a smooth 6-foot senior, sprinted for a layup four seconds into the contest. A Davis 3-pointer from the left corner increased the Panthers’ lead to 5-0.

“I think he’s the best point guard in the state,” North coach Todd Woelfle said of Davis. “His size doesn’t matter … just his demeanor and his basketball IQ. He just makes big plays for them.”

http://tribstar.com/sports/x1964519209/North-Bloomington-South-games-lives-up-to-hype

Davis was 8/11 from the field, 2/3 from 3...

[The_Mack_Pack]

Is he actually up to 6 feet or is he closer to 5'9'' still?

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

Is he actually up to 6 feet or is he closer to 5'9'' still?

No idea...I would imagine he's not as short as listed(5'9) or as tall as listed (6')

[smileyy]

Rivals has him at 5'9", ESPN and Scout at 5'10", but its not clear how old that data is and whether he's grown since then.

I've rarely seen him listed at 6', but this is a more recent story. If he's 6', I'd guess it's a generous rounding up of his height with shoes on.

[TheHoopSide1]

www.thehoopside.com/darwin-davis.php
www.thehoopside.com/ratings.php

[bobbiemcgee]

Looks like Dee's old running mate made some bad choices or maybe a spoiled brat:

http://www.highschoolsports.net/local/indianapolis/article/Butler-among-transfer-options-for-Carlino/

[TheHoopSide1]

Looks like Dee's old running mate made some bad choices or maybe a spoiled brat:

http://www.highschoolsports.net/local/indianapolis/article/Butler-among-transfer-options-for-Carlino/

I think that the whole "he graduated a year early to go there and didn't play" is what it was. Plus, there is always the possibility that he didn't like Howland. Howland has had his streak of running players off as of late regardless.

www.thehoopside.com

[Madfan]

Watched him play at New Albany-he's 6' with shoes on. Didn't ask him to take off his shoes-but did say hi to him after the game and told him I was excited to see him at Xavier next year! Great kid-very humble and polite.:logo:

[bobbiemcgee]

http://blogs.indystar.com/preps/2010/12/30/a-few-quick-thoughts-from-hall-of-fame-classic/

[xufan02]

Dee Davis is playing lights out. I'm looking forward to seeing him play at Xavier next year.

http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/2011/01/08/prepsports.qp-3834945.sto

[Xman95]

Dee Davis is playing lights out. I'm looking forward to seeing him play at Xavier next year.

http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/2011/01/08/prepsports.qp-3834945.sto

His sophomore year is the one I'm looking forward to. Holloway will have graduated and Davis should taking over the starting PG spot. Yes, I'm putting him there over Cheeks because it seems Dee may have a higher b-ball IQ and he's more of a true PG. Lyons is a 'tweener and, honestly, is probably better suited to be a back-up at both guard spots. Of course Lyons could also be starting at SG if someone like Redford or Martin doesn't claim it.

[The_Mack_Pack]

We're going to have plenty of shooters next season, especially if Davis can hit threes like he is right now.

[madness31]

Obviously level of competition is questionable at this point but if this is any indication of how good Davis is then Lyons better continue playing like he did against UC (or better) if he wants significant minutes next year.

Looks like those worried about shooting the next few years have nothing to worry about.

[awayfan]

a little off topic but looks like one of Dee's teammates is going to Xavier as well but for baseball. Im sure it will be nice for him to have a friend from home at X as well

http://bloomingtonsouthbasketball.blogspot.com/2010/11/forney-to-xavier.html

[xnatic03]

Just the fact alone that we'll have enough players competing for playing time will help our current players get that much better

[Xman95]

The fact that neither Davis nor Reynolds is the headliner of next year's class should make the rest of the A-10 very, very afraid! Picture Davis, Wells and Reynolds in the starting line-up in a few years...scary.

[machine7]

Davis scored 26 points, 6 steals, and 5 assists in a 71-52 win over Edgewood (Ind) Friday night. XU baseball commit Joey Forney chipped in with nine points and five assists.
On Jan 8 Davis had a career high 29 on the strength of a 4-6 night from behind the arc in a blowout win 86-55 over rival Bloomington North 86-55.

[Xavier Nation]

Davis is gonna have to wait a little to get his time. he will hopefully be a nice backup to lyons and Tu. I hope he can nailthe three

[xu drew]

Mack discussed Davis a bit during his radio show last week. You could tell he was drooling over Dee's potential and what he could bring to the table starting next year. I'm paraphrasing a bit, but Mack thinks Davis will get time only as a PG next year and it won't necessarily be only when Tu needs a breather, but he also expects Tu to be able to shift to the SG spot when Dee comes in. Still expect Tu to be our main PG, but that lineup could bring some diversity. So many different options await next season.

[deepX]

So if Tu can shift over to SG when Dee comes in to play the point, that should really help him get his minutes played higher!

[Xavgrad08]

can you imagine how many points TU will score playing the two. Wow having him at that position would provide some offensive fire power.

[SixFig]

NBA scouts had to be impressed with both Tu and the Freaser yesterday. Hopefully we have both next year, I am starting to worry.

[ThePowerOfX]

NBA scouts had to be impressed with both Tu and the Freaser yesterday. Hopefully we have both next year, I am starting to worry.

Possibility of NBA Lockout on top of other things, I would put the chances of either of them not being in a Xavier uniform not season being EXTREMELY small...

[smileyy]

can you imagine how many points TU will score playing the two. Wow having him at that position would provide some offensive fire power.

You're assuming Tu can score efficiently without the ball in his hands most of the time. It's not like the guy's main arsenal is spot-up shooting.

Its kind of ludicrous to think that Tu would provide more value to XU playing somewhere other than PG.

[Backyard Champ]

can you imagine how many points TU will score playing the two. Wow having him at that position would provide some offensive fire power.

I think he would score more as a PG. I feel like he is great with the ball in his hands, making plays.

[Espe]

NBA scouts had to be impressed with both Tu and the Freaser yesterday. Hopefully we have both next year, I am starting to worry.

I doubt Tu ever plays in the NBA, let alone him leaving early.

[Xavier Nation]

No way either go NBA.... I would be shocked

[xavierj]

I doubt Tu ever plays in the NBA, let alone him leaving early.

Yeah but there are NBA PG's in the league now who are not as good as him so don't bet against him. He is better than Patrick Mills and about the same size and Mills is playing in the NBA right now.

[Xavgrad08]

Yeah but there are NBA PG's in the league now who are not as good as him so don't bet against him. He is better than Patrick Mills and about the same size and Mills is playing in the NBA right now.

Mills was a second round pick who has spent a lot of time in the NBDL. TU will have a chance at the NBA but he will be a second round pick. no way he leaves early.

[markchal]

No way does Tu leave early but he definitely has a good chance to play in the NBA. He's done well in pickup games with pros before and he has a lot of skills that will translate to the next level. Tu and Frease will both play at the next level.

[Backyard Champ]

No way does Tu leave early but he definitely has a good chance to play in the NBA. He's done well in pickup games with pros before and he has a lot of skills that will translate to the next level. Tu and Frease will both play at the next level.

Tu and Frease?! Do you watch the NBA? Tu has a chance, I don't know about a good chance though. I don't think he will be able to get to the lane at will like he does now. NBA players are much quicker than the guys he is facing right now.

Frease has to improve drastically if he wants to be in the NBA. I'm not trying to knock him because I love Frease, but I just can't see him playing in the NBA. I think Love was a lot better than Frease, and Love wasn't drafted.

Things can change, but right now I don't see them playing in the NBA.

[Xavier]

Keep in mind Love had his knee injury before the draft--I think he could have been a second round pick.

As for Tu- he wont be drafted either year but will have his chance in the summer league. I could see him sign on with a team but not see a lick of PT. Frease has a great chance to make a lot of money in Europe though.

[PM Thor]

Possibility of NBA Lockout on top of other things, I would put the chances of either of them not being in a Xavier uniform not season being EXTREMELY small...

Why does everyone assume that a player would leave early only for the NBA?

Both guys could go overseas right now and make a killing salary wise.

I HATE dayton.

[Xavier]

Why does everyone assume that a player would leave early only for the NBA?

Both guys could go overseas right now and make a killing salary wise.

I HATE dayton.

well...how many guys do you know left early to go to Europe without trying to go to the NBA first? If it happens it is rare. More likely people leave early- dont get drafted and head to Europe.

Those who leave early for Europe give up the NBA dream too more then likely.

[Backyard Champ]

Keep in mind Love had his knee injury before the draft--I think he could have been a second round pick.



Is that true? I thought for sure he was playing on 76ers summer league when the injury happened.

[ThePowerOfX]

Is that true? I thought for sure he was playing on 76ers summer league when the injury happened.

The injury happened in summer camp, he was perfectly healthy during the draft....

[bleedXblue]

Tu will play in the NBA. Are some of you watching the same guy play that I am this year ? He's averaging 20 PPG and is solid as a rock. He's a terrific ball handler and can get into the lane with ease. His shooting has improved a lot, particularly his mid range game. If he improves his passing skills the sky's the limit. I see him as a 2nd round pick and having to play his way into the league for the first 3 years.

[MADXSTER]

Staying on topic.... Hats off to Dee. He is playing like a stud and the scouting services are taking notice.

IMO Tu will be around. He needs to work on passing(court awareness) and 3 point shooting to make it in the NBA.

[Xavier]

Tu will play in the NBA. Are some of you watching the same guy play that I am this year ? He's averaging 20 PPG and is solid as a rock. He's a terrific ball handler and can get into the lane with ease. His shooting has improved a lot, particularly his mid range game. If he improves his passing skills the sky's the limit. I see him as a 2nd round pick and having to play his way into the league for the first 3 years.

You just rattled off that he
-Averages 20 points a game
-Shooting/ mid range game improving a lot
-Terrific ball handler
-can get into the lane at Ease.

Then came at us with "2nd round and play his way into the league in his first 3 years". Just doesn't scream confidence from you. He wont be able to drive in the NBA-and if he does he wont be able to finish because of the Size. (look how he did against UC's size) he doesnt have near the passing ability it takes to be an NBA PG, and he is too small defensively. I love Tu- he is a great college player and will make a living from Basketball. Just not in the NBA.

[PM Thor]

well...how many guys do you know left early to go to Europe without trying to go to the NBA first? If it happens it is rare. More likely people leave early- dont get drafted and head to Europe.

Those who leave early for Europe give up the NBA dream too more then likely.

I am not going to elaborate on the reasons why a player might leave early to go overseas, but if one looks at it with a jaundiced eye, one might figure it out. (Pure conjecture)

I HATE dayton.

[markchal]

Tu and Frease?! Do you watch the NBA? Tu has a chance, I don't know about a good chance though. I don't think he will be able to get to the lane at will like he does now. NBA players are much quicker than the guys he is facing right now.

Frease has to improve drastically if he wants to be in the NBA. I'm not trying to knock him because I love Frease, but I just can't see him playing in the NBA. I think Love was a lot better than Frease, and Love wasn't drafted.

Things can change, but right now I don't see them playing in the NBA.

Frease is 7 ft tall. That's why he will get drafted in the second round. Size means a lot in the NBA and Frease should put up MONSTER numbers next year. We'll have so many other weapons that Frease should just clean up inside. And NBA teams draft on potential. If you have a 7ft. center who is averaging good numbers on a good tournament team (which we will be next year), then he will get drafted.

Tu has done fine playing pickup games against pros, and he still has another year to work on his game. There are players with his size and skill that currently play in the NBA. I'm not saying he will be Chris Paul, but he definitely has a role in the league. You are really underestimating Tu.

[RoseyMuskie]

I think Tu has a chance at the NBA, but Tu's game is to drive and draw contact. We all know that. Even on fast breaks he'll look around for contact. This is an effective style of play for college, but there's no way Tu could do this for 50 more games against bigger and stronger athletes. His body would take a beating that it couldn't handle. That's no knock on Tu, just being realistic about the differences from college to the NBA.

[xavierj]

You just rattled off that he
-Averages 20 points a game
-Shooting/ mid range game improving a lot
-Terrific ball handler
-can get into the lane at Ease.

Then came at us with "2nd round and play his way into the league in his first 3 years". Just doesn't scream confidence from you. He wont be able to drive in the NBA-and if he does he wont be able to finish because of the Size. (look how he did against UC's size) he doesnt have near the passing ability it takes to be an NBA PG, and he is too small defensively. I love Tu- he is a great college player and will make a living from Basketball. Just not in the NBA.

Yeah UC's guards are huge. Seriously?Cashmere Wright is like 5'11" 150 lbs. Dion Dixon. Larry Davis and the Parker kid are not much bigger. TU since he has been at Xavier has done just fine against bigger guards than he faced against UC. TU had great looks against UC he just did not knock the shots down. It happens, I would just chalk it up to an off night.

[xuwin]

I think Tu has a chance at the NBA, but Tu's game is to drive and draw contact. We all know that. Even on fast breaks he'll look around for contact. This is an effective style of play for college, but there's no way Tu could do this for 50 more games against bigger and stronger athletes. His body would take a beating that it couldn't handle. That's no knock on Tu, just being realistic about the differences from college to the NBA.

I think Tu has a game very similar to Jameer Nelson. They are both about 6' tall, very strong and physical. As long as he works hard and improves his game every year like he has to date I think he has a very good chance of playing point guard in the NBA. With the 48 minute games and the strenuous schedules that they play in the NBA most teams have two point guards that get a lot of minutes. Tu's strength and duribility will be big assets for him.

[madness31]

It is great to see all 3 of X's recruits playing at a high level. Add Martin and Taylor to the mix plus the returning talent and X should be a top 10 team. Final 4 is very possible. If a couple bigs step-up and the team gets consistent outside shooting then X is going to be incredibly difficult to beat.

Not sure how many minutes any of the freshmen will get but they all seem capable of playing. Depth at every position (not yet proven down low) makes extended minutes unlikely but I suspect they will each get some.

[xuwin]

It is great to see all 3 of X's recruits playing at a high level. Add Martin and Taylor to the mix plus the returning talent and X should be a top 10 team. Final 4 is very possible. If a couple bigs step-up and the team gets consistent outside shooting then X is going to be incredibly difficult to beat.

Not sure how many minutes any of the freshmen will get but they all seem capable of playing. Depth at every position (not yet proven down low) makes extended minutes unlikely but I suspect they will each get some.

Adding 5 new players to the team that we have never seen play doesn't normally elevate you to top ten status. How many freshmen has Xavier recruited that have come in and immediately had a big impact on the team. All we know so far is that these kids will give us added depth with quality yet to be proven.

[PMI]

If we are top 10 kind of good next year, it's going to be much more due to the fact that Tu, Kenny, Lyons, Robinson, Redford, Martin, etc. have stepped it up than the freshmen, in my opinion. I think Davis could be a solid PG off the bench and I expect some solid minutes from Wells. Reynolds seems like more of a raw big man who will take a year to really contribute, like Robinson and Latham. I think we can be really good next year and expect us to be top 25 caliber, but Tu, Kenny and Lyons will be doing the bulk of the scoring.

[The_Mack_Pack]

If we are top 10 kind of good next year, it's going to be much more due to the fact that Tu, Kenny, Lyons, Robinson, Redford, Martin, etc. have stepped it up than the freshmen, in my opinion. I think Davis could be a solid PG off the bench and I expect some solid minutes from Wells. Reynolds seems like more of a raw big man who will take a year to really contribute, like Robinson and Latham. I think we can be really good next year and expect us to be top 25 caliber, but Tu, Kenny and Lyons will be doing the bulk of the scoring.

Don't forget about Travis Taylor as well.

[JimmyTwoTimes37]

Adding 5 new players to the team that we have never seen play doesn't normally elevate you to top ten status. How many freshmen has Xavier recruited that have come in and immediately had a big impact on the team. All we know so far is that these kids will give us added depth with quality yet to be proven.

Exactly. Lets not jump the gun...

3 freshman who still have to adapt to high level D1 basketball and the speed of play.

A transfer who had to sit out a year will probably take a little bit to knock the rust off (See Lavender/McLean)

Martin has to deal with both of the above

Redford is coming off an injury and a layout of a year so he'll have to readjust again - along with physically

I think its not unreasonable to think this team will work its way into the top 25 at some point next year but we should probably temper down some of the expectations. I'm excited though about the potential

[PMI]

Don't forget about Travis Taylor as well.

Good point, totally slipped my mind. From all indications he should be a starter and one of our 3 or 4 leading scorers. I think we'll be really good next year and any minutes the freshmen play in meaningful games will be earned.

[Lamont Sanford]

Exactly. Lets not jump the gun...

3 freshman who still have to adapt to high level D1 basketball and the speed of play.

A transfer who had to sit out a year will probably take a little bit to knock the rust off (See Lavender/McLean)

Martin has to deal with both of the above

Redford is coming off an injury and a layout of a year so he'll have to readjust again - along with physically

I think its not unreasonable to think this team will work its way into the top 25 at some point next year but we should probably temper down some of the expectations. I'm excited though about the potential

I am very excited about the potential and obvious depth of next season's squad. It will be hard to temper expectations when on-paper, it could be our deepest team ever.

[More Cowbell]

I know we are getting off topic, but Tu will be ridiculous next year.

[madness31]

I thought I made it clear that I wasn't expecting a lot from the freshmen but that the team depth would be much improved. Taylor should replace McLean and Frease should be further along. I expect one or two guys between Robinson, Latham and McKenzie to show big improvement.

Martin is suppose to be very talented and Redford will be back. Shooting will not be a problem next year. Lyons is also playing well so we should expect him to be a big asset next year. Tu is playing at an incredibly high level.

I don't expect X to be ranked top ten to start the year but it is very achievable if a few players do make the improvements players typically make from one year to the next. Any quality minutes the freshmen can offer are just a bonus. Wells may be counted on a bit if Martin only plays SG and Robinson is needed down low.

[SixFig]

Dee is rated the #27 PG with a score of 91 by ESPN.com